Longuenesse(St Omer)Souvenir Cemetery, St Omer, Pas de Calais, France. not just St Omer. has photos of soldiers and where buried. sad lots of brothers. war is awful marie

Hello Everyone, Here are the latest updates to the OPC website that I found on my daily visit: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 19 August 2009 Baptisms 1894 to 1900 from the Church of St Saviour in the Parish of Bamber Bridge Marriages 1813 to 1816 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Eccles Baptisms 1900 to 1906 from St John the Evangelist, Farnworth Baptisms 1894 to 1914 from the Parish of Halsall Baptisms 1858 to 1873 from the Parish of Hindley Baptisms 1786 to 1803 and 1824 to 1903 from the Parish of Hoghton Banns 1889 to 1900 and Marriages 1842 to 1920 from the Parish of Hoghton Banns 1870 to 1900 from the Parish of Hoole Burials 1838 to 1847 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Leigh Burials 1791 to 1814 from the Church of St Matthew, Little Lever Banns 1823 to 1841 from the Parish of Marton Baptisms and Marriages 1805 to 1812 from the Parish of Middleton Marriages 1935 to 1948 and Burials 1866 to 1886 from Christ Church, Walmsley, Bolton Marriages 1861 to 1863 from the Church of St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Liverpool The completion of the Register for 1859 to 1863 Regards, Sally

Try this..........my brick wall tumbled in my 1st search! http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/index.htm Anne    --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> Subject: [ENG-LIV] brick wall - Help! To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 19 August, 2009, 7:46 PM Hi List, thanks to this list I have made great progress in my research but now I am stuck and ask for your suggestions: My ancestor and his wife, John and Mary IVETER are listed on the 1841 census but I have been unable to find a marriage record for them. or birth records. From a 1841 birth record of  one of their children I was able to ascertain that her maiden name was YEARDSLEY. From the 1841 census I learned that they were both born in Liverpool. What resources exist  to help me dig deeper? Thanks for your help, Carolyn in Boston, MA ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

judy olsen wrote: > I wonder if this is a variant of the name CESSFORD? > > There is a castle and small settlement of that name in southern > Scotland. > > > > Judy > > I think you're probably right with the origins of the surname. I'll pass on that information about the castle etc to my friend. I expect most of the Cessfords/Sessfords are related way back. best wishes Liz

Hi Claire Thank you so much for all that fabulous info on the Sessford family - amazing! I'm beginning to think they were elsewhere in the 1891. I expect they'll turn up sooner or later. best wishes Liz

Sue Miller wrote: > Hi Liz and welcome to the List > > > > I haven't been able to find Mary and children in 1891 but your friend might be interested to know of another SESSFORD family in Seaton, Cumberland in 1891....Thomas and Ann with their 4 children and the youngest was born St Helens so they were in Lancashire for a while. The next family on the census page is James and Isabella ROUTLEDGE and their 2 sons....might be relatives. > > > > Sue > Thank you so much for that Sue - there has got to be a family connection there I'm sure - too much of a coincidence with the ROUTLEDGE name otherwise. I shall definitely have a closer look at that. Thank you too for the welcome to the list. Liz

Sorry - should have asked what John and his father's occupations were - there is a John Doyle living in Birkenhead with his widowed mother on the 1891 census, occupation Railway Clerk? Dot Dorothy Holden Dover Kent England There are three things that can never be retrieved- the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity I volunteer for the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness website www.raogk.org

I wonder if this is a variant of the name CESSFORD? There is a castle and small settlement of that name in southern Scotland. Judy On 19 Aug 2009, at 15:35, Sue Miller wrote: > > Hi Liz and welcome to the List > > > > I haven't been able to find Mary and children in 1891 but your > friend might be interested to know of another SESSFORD family in > Seaton, Cumberland in 1891....Thomas and Ann with their 4 children > and the youngest was born St Helens so they were in Lancashire for > a while. The next family on the census page is James and Isabella > ROUTLEDGE and their 2 sons....might be relatives. > > > > Sue > >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:00:10 +0100 >> From: elizabeth.stilwell@sky.com >> To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ENG-LIV] SESSFORD family in the 1891 census >> >> Good morning list >> >> I've joined this list to try and help a friend of mine who is keen to >> learn more of her fathers family. >> >> The earliest information I have of them is in the 1881 census >> living at >> 46 Cherry Lane, Walton-on-the-Hill. >> >> The family at the time is as follows: >> >> Mary SESSFORD, head, married, aged 33, born Carlisle, Cumberland, >> wife >> of Marine Engineer >> Isaac SESSFORD, son, aged 10, born Ireland, Scholar >> James SESSFORD, son, aged 6, born Liverpool, Scholar >> Agnes J SESSFORD, daughter, aged 4, born Liverpool >> Thomasine SESSFORD, daughter, aged 7 months, born Liverpool >> >> I believe Mary may have been Mary Ann Routledge who married Thomas >> SESSFORD in the Jun qtr of 1870 in the registration district of >> Liverpool GRO ref no: Vol. 8b Page 230. >> >> I've also found the birth registration details for the 3 youngest >> children as well as another child - Edmund Routldge SESSFORD who was >> born and died in the Sept qtr of 1873 in Liverpool. This birth >> seems to >> confirm Mary's marriage to Thomas above. >> >> I have a death registration for a Mary SESSFORD, aged 41, in the >> Mar qtr >> of 1892 in the registration distration district of West Derby. >> >> I believe all the other children went onto marry and have families of >> their own. >> >> So I'm assuming that Mary and at least the 2 youngest children were >> living together in the area in 1891 but I haven't been able to >> find out >> anything to date. >> >> I would be really grateful if someone is able to locate them for me. >> >> many thanks >> Liz Stilwell >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG- >> LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. > > http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=T010MSN07A0716U > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list First, thanks to joining the list I've got further with my research in the last week than in the previous three years! So thanks to all those knowledgeable and resourceful researchers out there for sharing. Secondly, I have failed to find any info on my grandfather, John Lewis (b.1875, married Annie Boyce 1899) who hanged himself in about 1932. I can't find a death certificate or any other information. I know he was a docker on Liverpool Docks, and in the Dock battalion of the Liverpool Regiment in 1915. Any bright ideas on investigating suicides in Liverpool about 1932? Thanks Marion, East Sussex

Hi Marion, I must have missed your original message about a John LEWIS who was born in 1875. If I had seen it, I would have responded. Or, perhaps I did, and I have forgotten. My gr-gr-grandfather was a John LEWIS, but born in the 1830's in Liverpool. In the 1850's he married Isabella BURROWS in Liverpool. As far as I know, they only had one child, John "Stanley" LEWIS, born Dec. 1859 in Liverpool. (There is more information in archives of this List.) John had 2 older sisters which I know very little about. He had 3 brothers, I think, and they all worked as "Clerks" - so they all were educated. From memory, 3 worked in attorney's offices (US term), and one worked at a Dock office. There is some information on the families of the brothers in the archives of the List. I don't recall whether any of the brothers had a son, John, b1875. I've been told that LEWIS is a very popular name in Liverpool and surrounding areas, so it's possible my John LEWIS had no connection to your John LEWIS. But, what surprises me is that I very rarely see a query about the name. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Charlesworth" <marion.charlesworth@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] John Lewis - Liverpool Suicide 1932? Secondly, I have failed to find any info on my grandfather, John Lewis (b.1875, married Annie Boyce 1899) who hanged himself in about 1932. I can't find a death certificate or any other information. I know he was a docker on Liverpool Docks, and in the Dock battalion of the Liverpool Regiment in 1915. Marion, East Sussex

Hi Liz and welcome to the List I haven't been able to find Mary and children in 1891 but your friend might be interested to know of another SESSFORD family in Seaton, Cumberland in 1891....Thomas and Ann with their 4 children and the youngest was born St Helens so they were in Lancashire for a while. The next family on the census page is James and Isabella ROUTLEDGE and their 2 sons....might be relatives. Sue > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:00:10 +0100 > From: elizabeth.stilwell@sky.com > To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LIV] SESSFORD family in the 1891 census > > Good morning list > > I've joined this list to try and help a friend of mine who is keen to > learn more of her fathers family. > > The earliest information I have of them is in the 1881 census living at > 46 Cherry Lane, Walton-on-the-Hill. > > The family at the time is as follows: > > Mary SESSFORD, head, married, aged 33, born Carlisle, Cumberland, wife > of Marine Engineer > Isaac SESSFORD, son, aged 10, born Ireland, Scholar > James SESSFORD, son, aged 6, born Liverpool, Scholar > Agnes J SESSFORD, daughter, aged 4, born Liverpool > Thomasine SESSFORD, daughter, aged 7 months, born Liverpool > > I believe Mary may have been Mary Ann Routledge who married Thomas > SESSFORD in the Jun qtr of 1870 in the registration district of > Liverpool GRO ref no: Vol. 8b Page 230. > > I've also found the birth registration details for the 3 youngest > children as well as another child - Edmund Routldge SESSFORD who was > born and died in the Sept qtr of 1873 in Liverpool. This birth seems to > confirm Mary's marriage to Thomas above. > > I have a death registration for a Mary SESSFORD, aged 41, in the Mar qtr > of 1892 in the registration distration district of West Derby. > > I believe all the other children went onto marry and have families of > their own. > > So I'm assuming that Mary and at least the 2 youngest children were > living together in the area in 1891 but I haven't been able to find out > anything to date. > > I would be really grateful if someone is able to locate them for me. > > many thanks > Liz Stilwell > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=T010MSN07A0716U

Hi List, thanks to this list I have made great progress in my research but now I am stuck and ask for your suggestions: My ancestor and his wife, John and Mary IVETER are listed on the 1841 census but I have been unable to find a marriage record for them. or birth records. From a 1841 birth record of one of their children I was able to ascertain that her maiden name was YEARDSLEY. From the 1841 census I learned that they were both born in Liverpool. What resources exist to help me dig deeper? Thanks for your help, Carolyn in Boston, MA

Good morning list I've joined this list to try and help a friend of mine who is keen to learn more of her fathers family. The earliest information I have of them is in the 1881 census living at 46 Cherry Lane, Walton-on-the-Hill. The family at the time is as follows: Mary SESSFORD, head, married, aged 33, born Carlisle, Cumberland, wife of Marine Engineer Isaac SESSFORD, son, aged 10, born Ireland, Scholar James SESSFORD, son, aged 6, born Liverpool, Scholar Agnes J SESSFORD, daughter, aged 4, born Liverpool Thomasine SESSFORD, daughter, aged 7 months, born Liverpool I believe Mary may have been Mary Ann Routledge who married Thomas SESSFORD in the Jun qtr of 1870 in the registration district of Liverpool GRO ref no: Vol. 8b Page 230. I've also found the birth registration details for the 3 youngest children as well as another child - Edmund Routldge SESSFORD who was born and died in the Sept qtr of 1873 in Liverpool. This birth seems to confirm Mary's marriage to Thomas above. I have a death registration for a Mary SESSFORD, aged 41, in the Mar qtr of 1892 in the registration distration district of West Derby. I believe all the other children went onto marry and have families of their own. So I'm assuming that Mary and at least the 2 youngest children were living together in the area in 1891 but I haven't been able to find out anything to date. I would be really grateful if someone is able to locate them for me. many thanks Liz Stilwell

Bill, I am not aware of anyone mentioning a Trevor Furlong in my husband's family, but I will ask my mother in law when I next see her. Best wishes Lorraine

Father - Peter Doyle - thank you. Audrey O'Keefe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Holden" <DMHolden@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] John Doyle help please. > Hi Audrey, > > Does the marriage certificate give any details of his father? There are a > lot of John Doyle's!! > > Regards, > > Dot > > Dorothy Holden > Dover Kent England > > > There are three things that can never be retrieved- the spoken word, time > past and the neglected opportunity > > > I volunteer for the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness website > www.raogk.org > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Audrey, Does the marriage certificate give any details of his father? There are a lot of John Doyle's!! Regards, Dot Dorothy Holden Dover Kent England There are three things that can never be retrieved- the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity I volunteer for the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness website www.raogk.org

Hello I need help I have the marriage lines of my G Grandparents and it states my G Grandfather was a widow when he married my G G - mother- how can I find out info on his first wife and if there are any children - I'm lost G G parents married in a - 'Primitive Penecost' chapel - west derby - 1896 - I've searched for info on this church - it was in the Everton district - no luck - John Doyle d.o.b 1863 m Ada Latimer d.o.b. 1867 -- Ada was born in Sillouth Cumbria - John in Liverpool - Also how can I find out when John Doyle died he was alive in the 1911 census - Can anyone help me please thank you Audrey O'Keefe

Hi folks, Prior to this thread, I happened to be on Ancestry, and thought I'd give a quick check on their trees. I found my father, born 1925, West Derby, Liverpool, and thought, great, some connection!! Then I saw that they thought he'd died in Chile!!! He didn't, I was there! A few more checks through their tree was horrible, loads of mistakes. I know that more recent research is pricey, and more difficult, but this seemed to be, the 'name's the same' so it's mine. Aargh!! Check out Ancestry, folks, it's frightening for us who've been genuinely been researching for years, and especially so when you were there at the event:-(( Kind regards, Yvonne

There is something in the drinking water Karen Dave D. Ontario > But then most people are probably not as obsessed about genealogy as I am > either......!