Hi Karen, Yes it would be great to have this medal reunited with his family, you might try to get in touch with a local Royal Canadian Legion, they might know how to reunite medals to owners famlies, they are very interested in keeping medals with their families. I do not have any connections or names to pass on to you, but thought it might be of interest Regards Sue > From: sorrellk@hotmail.com > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:40:46 -0400 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] INGLIS > > > Hi listers, > > Anyone researching the name INGLIS? Just came across this on eBay: > > "First World War British War Medal group consisting of silver British > War Medal and Victory Medal both named to 5721 Pte. W. Inglis. L'pool > R. Inglis was a Private in the famous Liverpool Regiment during the > First World War." > > Wouldn't it be wonderful to reunite this with these medals with family again? > > Karen in Ontario > > _________________________________________________________________ > We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047 > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan: My gg grandfather Martin HIGGINS and his wife Bridget were on North St in Liverpool. Their children were John, Patrick, Mary, Elizabeth and Martin Thomas. John was the earliest born in 1848 and baptized at St Mary's RC Church. Wonder if there is any connection since they lived so close?? Donna in Ontario, Canada >> Joan, Bakers Court was in North Street which is still there ( just off >> Dale Street ) in Liverpool 3 . >> >> Put North Street Liverpool into Google maps >> http://maps.google.co.uk/ >> >> and you can see where it was >> >> Anne >> On 18 Apr 2009, at 20:42, Joan Rooney wrote: >> >>> Thanks very much Anne. >>> >>> Can anyone tell me what section of Liverpool is Bakers Court in? >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> Joan >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> >>> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 14:47 >>> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] 1841 for Patrick and Miles Higgins >>> >>> >>>> Hi Joan, >>>> They are living in Barkers Court North Street. >>>> >>>> No Seamen >>>> All the adult males ( Patrick Higgine, Daniel Bulger, Thomas Dempsey >>>> and James Higgins are lab ( labourers) >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Anne >>>> On 18 Apr 2009, at 18:32, Joan Rooney wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Would SKS check the 1841 or ancestry for the original image of >>>>> this. It is >>>>> from VitalRecords. I am especially interested in occupations. Any >>>>> seamen? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Joan >>>>> >>>>> Registration Number: >>>>> Ho107 Piece: >>>>> 556 Folio: >>>>> 22/28 Page: >>>>> 48 >>>>> Registration District: >>>>> Liverpool Sub District: >>>>> Dale Street Enumeration District: >>>>> Ecclesiastical >

Hi listers, Anyone researching the name INGLIS? Just came across this on eBay: "First World War British War Medal group consisting of silver British War Medal and Victory Medal both named to 5721 Pte. W. Inglis. L'pool R. Inglis was a Private in the famous Liverpool Regiment during the First World War." Wouldn't it be wonderful to reunite this with these medals with family again? Karen in Ontario _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047

Hi List I am trying to find anyone researching the following names. Leslie Hugh OWEN born Liverpool 1912. Father Owen OWEN, born Llanfairfechan North Wales 1879. Mother Florence May OWEN (nee BONE), born Essex 1887 Married Eileen DAVIDSON in 1940 in Liverpool and had two children Vivienne born 1944 & Valerie born 1941 both in Liverpool. Leslie died in a drowning accident in Liverpool Docks in 1958. I would be very interested to contact anyone with a connection with these names. Bob Owen Southport, Lancs.

Hi the Google 'site' command will work on levels lower than http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ For example, say you have an event concerning BARLOW in Liverpool and want to search all Parishes: site:www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/ Barlow brings up 64 results which is a much easiest list to check. But I notice that some of these records involve a "Barlow Street" rather than a BARLOW. site:www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/ Barlow -"Barlow Street" removes those records with the text I don't want. Or, I can exclude marriages by using: site:www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/ Barlow -marriages For Manchester site:www.lan-opc.org.uk/Manchester/ and so on. My Barlows were saddlers (earlier spelling, sadler). So I can specify: site:www.lan-opc.org.uk Barlow "Occupation: Saddler" OR "Occupation: Sadler" (Note the operator OR must be in capital letters) Of course, you can use any other search term you like: know the LDS film number? eg site:www.lan-opc.org.uk Barlow "LDS Film 1657583" Perhaps I am looking for 'the son of' and 'the daughter of' and 'the child of' and 'the daur of' (all terms used in the database): "of Robert Barlow" site:www.lan-opc.org.uk will bring up a list with all those terms. regards

Would like info re. Fidelia Sprouting Jackson from Luton... dont know if I am in the correct area.. found on ancestry .. Fidelia Jackson Sprouting 1726-1750 (male) title Reverand.. occ cleric... married Feb 1743.. dowry 8.000 pounds..the another entry Fidelia Sprouting Jackson 1726 -1750 Luton.. female... does anyone have info please... Lillian

Hi Liz, Our grandparents and great grandparents were not as lilly white as they wanted us to believe. I have one who married three times all the while the other husbands were still alive. Trouble with John and Alice though they had three children in Aussie on those certs. John put his birth place as Ireland on one, Scotland on another and England on the last one and put marriage was in Victoria When the other children were born here in NZ it was before 1881 so there is less info. The children obviously did not know John and Alice were not married until 20 years after the eldest child's birth. For years we were looking for a marriage in Victoria. It was not until the New Zealand Soc. Of Genealogists produced the NZ marriage CD that we discovered the marriage. 20 years later. It is always interesting reading other genealogists problems. In some cases makes your own look a smaller problem. Still always worth putting the problems on the list there is always someone out there reading it and can come up with a suggestion. The old story two heads are better than one. One day you will find the answers. I hope you do. Regards Sue Hello Sue, Your posting initially caught my eye because it was so similar to the story of my 2x great grandmother. Eliza Boardman was b. 1841 in Liverpool and had my great grandmother, Margaret in 1862. The father on the birth certificate shows as Patrick Healey. I found a marriage certificate in 1863 for them so it was actually over a year later after the birth of Margaret that her parents married. I assumed that it was a religious issue as Eliza was CofE and I would strongly imagine that Patrick was Catholic. Anyway, they had another child, John Henry in 1871 and a third, Frederick William in 1873. Curiously, I never see Patrick on any census returns living with the family. Eliza is always shown with her children living with her parents. On the birth certificates of the children, Patrick's occupation is shown as baker. In 1879, Margaret marries and her marriage certificate states that her father Patrick is deceased and that he was a ship's cook. She leaves England a couple of years later with her husband and settles in America. The 1881 census finds Eliza again living with her 2 boys in her parents' home. It shows her as married, but no Patrick in sight. In 1889, Eliza's parents both die and she then leaves England for Australia. On the passage ticket, it shows a William Samuel Burgess, Eliza and her sons, John Henry and Frederick William - all with the last name Burgess. Now all their lives, the boys had the surname Healey, but now that they're traveling to Australia, suddenly their name is Burgess. Nine years later (1898) Eliza and William married privately at a chapel. Eliza put down that she was widowed in 1896. All this while, she and her sons were living with the name Burgess. Only by accident did their descendants find out their name was actually Healey. Evidently Eliza must have found out that her husband, Patrick died back in England and then she married Burgess. And back in 1879, when my great grandmother married, she put that her father was deceased, but I believe she was told that by her mother and that he was really alive until about 1896 when Eliza stated she became widowed. Sorry to give you the whole story, but it reminds me so much of yours. I don't know if you have all the death certificates for the people you are searching for, but I know in Australia they give a lot of information. I found out that Eliza's boys thought she married Burgess way back in England. She must have told them all that their real father was Burgess and no one questioned it. For some reason, she kept them all away from Patrick or maybe he just stayed away. Good luck, Liz

Even better!! Thanks, Carolyn At 01:58 PM 9/25/2009, you wrote: >Hi listers, > >And you can narrow it down by adding the place name and/or name of >the church. Especially good if you're researching a common name. >Example: site:http://www.lan-opc.org.uk > >Karen in Ontario > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. >http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi listers, And you can narrow it down by adding the place name and/or name of the church. Especially good if you're researching a common name. Example: site:http://www.lan-opc.org.uk Karen in Ontario _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826

Hello Sue, Your posting initially caught my eye because it was so similar to the story of my 2x great grandmother. Eliza Boardman was b. 1841 in Liverpool and had my great grandmother, Margaret in 1862. The father on the birth certificate shows as Patrick Healey. I found a marriage certificate in 1863 for them so it was actually over a year later after the birth of Margaret that her parents married. I assumed that it was a religious issue as Eliza was CofE and I would strongly imagine that Patrick was Catholic. Anyway, they had another child, John Henry in 1871 and a third, Frederick William in 1873. Curiously, I never see Patrick on any census returns living with the family. Eliza is always shown with her children living with her parents. On the birth certificates of the children, Patrick's occupation is shown as baker. In 1879, Margaret marries and her marriage certificate states that her father Patrick is deceased and that he was a ship's cook. She leaves England a couple of years later with her husband and settles in America. The 1881 census finds Eliza again living with her 2 boys in her parents' home. It shows her as married, but no Patrick in sight. In 1889, Eliza's parents both die and she then leaves England for Australia. On the passage ticket, it shows a William Samuel Burgess, Eliza and her sons, John Henry and Frederick William - all with the last name Burgess. Now all their lives, the boys had the surname Healey, but now that they're traveling to Australia, suddenly their name is Burgess. Nine years later (1898) Eliza and William married privately at a chapel. Eliza put down that she was widowed in 1896. All this while, she and her sons were living with the name Burgess. Only by accident did their descendants find out their name was actually Healey. Evidently Eliza must have found out that her husband, Patrick died back in England and then she married Burgess. And back in 1879, when my great grandmother married, she put that her father was deceased, but I believe she was told that by her mother and that he was really alive until about 1896 when Eliza stated she became widowed. Sorry to give you the whole story, but it reminds me so much of yours. I don't know if you have all the death certificates for the people you are searching for, but I know in Australia they give a lot of information. I found out that Eliza's boys thought she married Burgess way back in England. She must have told them all that their real father was Burgess and no one questioned it. For some reason, she kept them all away from Patrick or maybe he just stayed away. Good luck, Liz -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Greene Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:25 AM To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Deserted wife and children Birkenhead. Hi Liz, No one has replied. May be it is one of those ones that's in the too hard basket. I did find a marriage for a John Mc to a Catherine ordered the cert. But being an English cert. didn't tell me anything I didn't know. Ages were right, father and occupation was right so he married there as well. What I really want to do is try to prove that John on the 1851 census and John in Aussie are the same person. I am sure they are but until I can find the wife and children in England some where and John leaving and arriving in Aussie I can't say for sure they are the same person. The wife on the 1851 census is Irish and wondered if she and the children went back to Ireland. But then why does John wait 20 years before he marries Alice Garland here in NZ? My theory is he was Catholic. Obviously he didn't mind living with another woman but his faith strong enough not to marry her. Then 20 years on how did he know his first wife may have died? Did one of his children keep in touch with him some how? Perhaps a family member was keeping him informed. In the Aussie papers I have found the brother to Alice Garland. 1851 he and four other seaman jumped ship. An order for their arrest was put out. Trouble is the papers only mention Peter Garland not the names of the other seaman. My theory for not being able to find John McD on any passenger lists is he worked his way out on a ship as a sailmaker. His occupation in England was a tailor. Easy to change from a tailor to a sailmaker to get to the other side of the world. I wondered if John McD was one of the other seaman that jumped ship with Peter Garland and that is how John met Alice in Aussie. The ship they jumped from was the Montgomery. The order in the papers were 1851. Alice Garland didn't arrive in Aussie until 1854 on the ship the Admiral Boxer which left Liverpool 1854 arrived Melbourne 1854. She and her sister put adds in the Argus papers looking for their brother Peter. I would love to try and find the wife and children either in England or somewhere. Regards Sue PS. We had some lovely spring days. Today snow down to 400 metres and expecting down to 200 tomorrow. Back to wearing winter jerseys and heaters all on full blast. Sue, Have you ever had an answer to your message below from June? Wondering if you are still searching. Liz -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Greene Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:54 AM To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] Deserted wife and children Birkenhead. On the 1851 census I have John McDavitt and family living in Birkenhead. By 1854/55 John is in Australia without his wife or children. My question is if John deserted his wife and children in England there is a good chance they may have ended up in a poor house. What is the nearest poor house to Birkenhead and if they did end up there is there any way I can get a search done of the records? The wife Catherine and the three boys James, John & Daniel are not on any other census records. Believe me I have tried everything. I have also searched the marriage microfiche in case she re-married. I have also checked deaths in Australia for them. Nothing so am sure John jumped on board ship and left her and the children. Though I have not been able to find any passenger lists of John arriving in Australia. In Australia he meets Alice Garland and their first child is born 1856. That family left Australia for New Zealand around 1863. Interesting that John does not marry the second wife in New Zealand until almost 20 years after the first born child in Australia. Also interesting is the boys born in Australia have the same Chr. Names as those he may have left behind in England. We wondered if he waited until he could confirm the first wife was dead. Though I have not been able to find a death for her either. Hope someone can answer my questions. Regards Sue Greene in a freezing New Zealand. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Liz, No one has replied. May be it is one of those ones that's in the too hard basket. I did find a marriage for a John Mc to a Catherine ordered the cert. But being an English cert. didn't tell me anything I didn't know. Ages were right, father and occupation was right so he married there as well. What I really want to do is try to prove that John on the 1851 census and John in Aussie are the same person. I am sure they are but until I can find the wife and children in England some where and John leaving and arriving in Aussie I can't say for sure they are the same person. The wife on the 1851 census is Irish and wondered if she and the children went back to Ireland. But then why does John wait 20 years before he marries Alice Garland here in NZ? My theory is he was Catholic. Obviously he didn't mind living with another woman but his faith strong enough not to marry her. Then 20 years on how did he know his first wife may have died? Did one of his children keep in touch with him some how? Perhaps a family member was keeping him informed. In the Aussie papers I have found the brother to Alice Garland. 1851 he and four other seaman jumped ship. An order for their arrest was put out. Trouble is the papers only mention Peter Garland not the names of the other seaman. My theory for not being able to find John McD on any passenger lists is he worked his way out on a ship as a sailmaker. His occupation in England was a tailor. Easy to change from a tailor to a sailmaker to get to the other side of the world. I wondered if John McD was one of the other seaman that jumped ship with Peter Garland and that is how John met Alice in Aussie. The ship they jumped from was the Montgomery. The order in the papers were 1851. Alice Garland didn't arrive in Aussie until 1854 on the ship the Admiral Boxer which left Liverpool 1854 arrived Melbourne 1854. She and her sister put adds in the Argus papers looking for their brother Peter. I would love to try and find the wife and children either in England or somewhere. Regards Sue PS. We had some lovely spring days. Today snow down to 400 metres and expecting down to 200 tomorrow. Back to wearing winter jerseys and heaters all on full blast. Sue, Have you ever had an answer to your message below from June? Wondering if you are still searching. Liz -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Greene Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:54 AM To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] Deserted wife and children Birkenhead. On the 1851 census I have John McDavitt and family living in Birkenhead. By 1854/55 John is in Australia without his wife or children. My question is if John deserted his wife and children in England there is a good chance they may have ended up in a poor house. What is the nearest poor house to Birkenhead and if they did end up there is there any way I can get a search done of the records? The wife Catherine and the three boys James, John & Daniel are not on any other census records. Believe me I have tried everything. I have also searched the marriage microfiche in case she re-married. I have also checked deaths in Australia for them. Nothing so am sure John jumped on board ship and left her and the children. Though I have not been able to find any passenger lists of John arriving in Australia. In Australia he meets Alice Garland and their first child is born 1856. That family left Australia for New Zealand around 1863. Interesting that John does not marry the second wife in New Zealand until almost 20 years after the first born child in Australia. Also interesting is the boys born in Australia have the same Chr. Names as those he may have left behind in England. We wondered if he waited until he could confirm the first wife was dead. Though I have not been able to find a death for her either. Hope someone can answer my questions. Regards Sue Greene in a freezing New Zealand.

The poet Arthur Hugh Clough 1819-61,son of a Liverpool cotton dealer, and who is said by Nicholas Monsarrat to be commemorated by the above plaque, had these well known words of wisdom in his published work, that might have been specifically aimed to give encouragement to us in our genealogical endeavours: 'Say not, the struggle naught availeth, The Labour and the wounds are vain, ......' Donald Stock Auckland NZ

this is a God send! thank you! Carolyn At 12:54 PM 9/24/2009, you wrote: > site:http://www.lan-opc.org.uk

Hello everyone There have been a few posts about the Search function on the Lancashire OPC site in response to messages informing us of updates, which Sally very kindly sends to us. Neither Sally nor I know when the search function will again be available, but while you are waiting for the search function to be fixed, you can use Google search. Go to Google and in the search field type "site:http://www.lan-opc.org.uk" (without the quotation marks) and the word or words you wish to find. Example: site:http://www.lan-opc.org.uk BUSKEY This brings up seven results linking to the data on the Lancs OPC site. Searching via Google may not bring up the most recent information added to the Lancs OPC site, since the site may not have been indexed recently by Google, but it may be better than nothing! Kind regards, Lynne

Hello listers, I am suffering from a heavy cold :o( However. There are some updates for Blackburn :o) So I feel a lot better.... Below are the updates from the Lancashire Online Parish Clerk website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 23 September 2009 Burials 1841 to 1848 from the church of St Paul in the Parish of Blackburn Baptisms 1859 to 1866 and 1870 to 1877 from the church of St George in the Parish of Chorley. The Records for 1870 to 1877 complete the Register for 1866 to 1877 Marriages 1882 to 1901 from the Parish of Clitheroe Baptisms 1873 to 1890 from the Parish of Fleetwood Baptisms 1854 to 1900 from the Parish of Goodshaw Marriages 1866 to 1909 from the Parish of Waterfoot in the District of Rossendale Regards, Sally

I must apoligise profusely for neglecting to thank the folk who answeredmy request ,sadly no members that I knew where located ,I can recall the cafe at Two Mills ,but I think that we used the cafe at Loggerheds further into Wales I would suggest that Paul and Sylviaare a bit confused though ie the Cat and Fiddle was the hill in Derbyshire on the way to Buxton and Macclesfield ,the main steep climb before Ruthin was the Bwlch,which was worth the effort to glide down through the lovely vale of Clwyd . Beryl Burgess mentions the Pathfinders Club I din,t recall this club they might hace been members of who where our rivals ,we wher in the B L R C the British League of Racing Cyclists . Before concluding I must mention againKen and Norma who forwarded the wonderful photo of Ossie Dover the Cyclist Tailor John Maddocks New Zealand

Sue, Have you ever had an answer to your message below from June? Wondering if you are still searching. Liz -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Greene Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:54 AM To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] Deserted wife and children Birkenhead. On the 1851 census I have John McDavitt and family living in Birkenhead. By 1854/55 John is in Australia without his wife or children. My question is if John deserted his wife and children in England there is a good chance they may have ended up in a poor house. What is the nearest poor house to Birkenhead and if they did end up there is there any way I can get a search done of the records? The wife Catherine and the three boys James, John & Daniel are not on any other census records. Believe me I have tried everything. I have also searched the marriage microfiche in case she re-married. I have also checked deaths in Australia for them. Nothing so am sure John jumped on board ship and left her and the children. Though I have not been able to find any passenger lists of John arriving in Australia. In Australia he meets Alice Garland and their first child is born 1856. That family left Australia for New Zealand around 1863. Interesting that John does not marry the second wife in New Zealand until almost 20 years after the first born child in Australia. Also interesting is the boys born in Australia have the same Chr. Names as those he may have left behind in England. We wondered if he waited until he could confirm the first wife was dead. Though I have not been able to find a death for her either. Hope someone can answer my questions. Regards Sue Greene in a freezing New Zealand. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.49/2149 - Release Date: 06/01/09 17:55:00

Question: If some one was married by licence in Liverpool in 1793 What would the original licence contain - parents perhaps ? thanks Dave D.

The IGI is an Index. It does not contain any records at all. If you have an entry on the IGI you need to check the film and that will give you the record. There may be additional information on the source. This is what the IGI Help file says: Find the source and check the original record. Information in the International Genealogical Index comes from many different sources. To verify the accuracy of the information or to see if the original source contains more information, you may want to check the source if it is listed. To do this: 1. Click on one of the individual's names. 2. Read the Messages section on the IGI record. It contains information about the source. 3. Read the Sources section on the IGI record. It may list either the batch or microfilm number where the information came from. 4. If a film number is listed, click it to go to the Family History Library Catalog and find the film you will need to order. 5. Print the film notes or write down the film number. 6. Go to a family history center and order a copy of the record. 7. Compare the information on the original record to the information on the IGI record. You may have to pay a small fee to order a copy. Regards 2009/9/22 Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net>: > Thank you for your reply - I am starting to figure it out. Does a > specific batch contain all events that occurred during the time

HI Sandra I think you have the result already. This sounds like a civil case rather than a criminal prosecution. 'Verdict for the plaintiff' (I presume the true owner of the fabric) is the result and the order of the court is 'immediate execution' ie the fabric in question is delivered to the plaintiff. End of story. 2009/9/22 sandra moffatt <smoffatt2009@hotmail.com>: > > I have an "interesting" ancestor who was taken to court in early 1857 for apparently stealing some fabric that was delivered to her address in error. She was well known to the judge at the time so obviously had done other illegal things in the past. > >