I have an unwanted birth certificate to offer if it is relevant to anyone's research: Birth of Mary Ann Keefe, 22/4/1849 - daughter of Samuel and Mary (formerly McCave), at 9 Court, Ford St, Liverpool. Contact me if you think it might be useful to you. Tony Marr

thank you Judy and Robert some very useful information from you both. William died in 1878 therefore I only have the 1861 and 1871 census to go on. There is a possible Wm occ soldier and single in 1851 but he says born Ireland not Chatham, Kent....may be worth pursuing. Judy, where is the enumeration description? I couldn't see it on the 1861...just got to the 1st page which had the name of Brigadier General jDavid Russel. best wishes Sue > From: copywriter@tesco.net > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:28:21 +0100 > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Band master in 12th Foot? > > In fact the enumeration district description on ancestry confirms the > regt was the 29th Foot. The officers names (earlier pages) could > easily be cross checked to confirm this. > > havent looked at 1871 image but 12th L.a.r. might be 12th Lancers. > Obviously that was not a foot regiment. > > Original poster did not say whether the person was found in other > censuses. > > > Judy Olsen > > > > > > On 17 Oct 2009, at 19:59, Robert Spargo wrote: > > > The 12th Foot was (I think!) the Suffolk Regiment. From 1782 to > > 1881 it was > > known as "12th (East Suffolk) Regiment of Foot". From 1860 to 1866 > > the 1st > > Battalion was in New Zealand but the 2nd Battalion was in England > > (don't > > know where) from 1858 until 1864 when they went to India and stayed > > there > > until 1877. The 1st Battalion was back in England from 1867 until > > 1872 when > > they went to Ireland. > > > > Your best point of contact might be via the Suffolk Regiment's website > > www.suffolkregiment.org - good luck > > > > Robert in Nantwich > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Sue Miller" <suemiller48@hotmail.com> > >> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 06:09 > >> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Band master in 12th Foot? > >> > >> I am hoping someone with a military background can help me on this > >> one. > >> > >> Wm McEVOY bc1830 was a soldier...on 1861 census he is a private > >> and the > >> record page just says Foot regiment 29 North Camp which is > >> Farnborough > >> Hants. > >> > >> In 1871 he is 42 and in Liverpool with family living at 28 Mason > >> St, West > >> Derby occ Band master 12th L.a.r? and some of his nighbours are > >> military > >> or pensioners. > >> > >> Can explain what regiment he was in 12th Foot or 29 and anything > >> else that > > > >> will help? > >> > >> thank you - Sue > >> > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > > > The list admin can be contacted at > > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger onto your mobile for free http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

Carolyn, I note that your list of "all resources" only lists internet resources. There are stacks and stacks of Church records available for Liverpool which are on microfilm. They can be found on the LDS catalogue at: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=349498&subject_disp=England%2C+Lancashire%2C+Liverpool+%2D+Church+records&columns=*,0,0 The vast majority of these have not been indexed, let alone digitised, including the Presbyterian Church records for Liverpool, which is where I'd first look for anyone with the Isbister/Isvester surname. Have you looked at these microfilms? Trawling through theses microfilm copies of old records is what any family historian had to do before we started getting spoiled by PCs in our home and now by digital copies of old records on the Internet. How many have you searched? (If the LDS hadn't microfilmed these records in the past, there wouldn't be an IGI!) I note that you live in Boston. The LDS have a library in Boston, into which you can order microfilms to read. Do you make effective use of it? If not, then you have not exhausted all resources by a very long shot. I should add that the IGI is only an index and should be followed up by viewing the microfilm of the original record. Boston Massachusetts 150 Brown St Weston, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States Phone: 781-235-2164 Hours: Wednesdays 7pm-9pm; Fridays and Saturdays 9am-3pm For those of you living elsewhere around the world, the LDS home page < www.familysearch.org > has a search field labelled "Find a Library near you" (you may need to page down). The Boston Public Library has "a very comprehensive collection of histories of the British Isles" (Genealogist's Handbook for New England Research (1985 ISBN 0-88082-011-X). Have you checked out these resources? Remember, "New England" got its name for a reason. Then there is the "New England Historic Genealogical Society", 101 Newbury St, Boston. This was founded in 1845 and is claimed to be the oldest genealogical society in the world. Have you checked out their resources? (I know they purchased materials such as microfiche transcripts and indexes of 19th century Orkney census records in the mid-1990s.) And what does the Harvard University library across the Charles River in Cambridge hold? Harvard is more than just a business school. I am not a member of the LDS Church, but I have worked as a volunteer in my local LDS library since 1991. One of things I tell new people is that to be successful in their research, they need to be related to two people: Patience and her husband Percy Vere. Happy Hunting David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Parker To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:22 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] when all else fails? Hi List, I am really stuck! What do you do when you feel you have exhausted all resources, i.e. IGI, Lanc OPR, findmypast, and ancestry.com? These are the databases that I have access to. I am searching for vital records before 1786 in Liverpool. Families: Isbister/Ivester, McCrum and Appleton. Any suggestions most appreciated. Carolyn in Boston, MA

Hello TerryThank you for letting us know about these extra pages that are FREE on 1911 Census once you've paid for the original. I am about to have a look as I knew nothing about that.RegardsPat Berry in Australia --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: th005c0859@blueyonder.co.uk To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:54:16 +0100 BTW, I saw some information about 1911 searches that might be useful to yourself and other List members. QUOTE: to make sure that you're not missing out. If you've already paid to view the original census schedule there are several more pages that you can now view for no extra charge. To view all the extra information, log-in at the 1911 Census site, then click on my records in the menu that runs across the top of the page. Go to any of the records listed as 'Address Original Page' or 'Household Original Page', then click VIEW. When the page appears you'll see a list of other pages across the top that are free once you have paid for the main image These usually include details of the enumerator, a brief description of the enumeration district, and an image of two pages listing addresses and householder names: typically one page will list your relative and 24 neighbouring householders, the other will show 25 householders from a nearby street (because of the way the Enumerator's Summary Book has been photographed the pages are usually not consecutive). Tip: look out for names you recognise - relatives often lived near to each other If there's a name that looks familiar, you'll probably want to know who else was in that household (apart from the householder), and the good news is that this information is also FREE! All you need to do is note the Schedule number shown for that household, then carry out a Census Reference Search, which is easiest to do at findmypast.com (but see the tip below) Apart from the Schedule number you'll also need the Piece Number and the Enumeration District which were shown for the original household (look for the references which begin RG14PN and ED). The other references can be omitted, at least in my experience. Tip: if you carry out a Census Reference Search at the 1911 Census site you'll see the ages of the household members - this information isn't given in the free search results at findmypast.com END QUOTE Terry Heath Cheltenham UK _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/

In fact the enumeration district description on ancestry confirms the regt was the 29th Foot. The officers names (earlier pages) could easily be cross checked to confirm this. havent looked at 1871 image but 12th L.a.r. might be 12th Lancers. Obviously that was not a foot regiment. Original poster did not say whether the person was found in other censuses. Judy Olsen On 17 Oct 2009, at 19:59, Robert Spargo wrote: > The 12th Foot was (I think!) the Suffolk Regiment. From 1782 to > 1881 it was > known as "12th (East Suffolk) Regiment of Foot". From 1860 to 1866 > the 1st > Battalion was in New Zealand but the 2nd Battalion was in England > (don't > know where) from 1858 until 1864 when they went to India and stayed > there > until 1877. The 1st Battalion was back in England from 1867 until > 1872 when > they went to Ireland. > > Your best point of contact might be via the Suffolk Regiment's website > www.suffolkregiment.org - good luck > > Robert in Nantwich > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Miller" <suemiller48@hotmail.com> >> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 06:09 >> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Band master in 12th Foot? >> >> I am hoping someone with a military background can help me on this >> one. >> >> Wm McEVOY bc1830 was a soldier...on 1861 census he is a private >> and the >> record page just says Foot regiment 29 North Camp which is >> Farnborough >> Hants. >> >> In 1871 he is 42 and in Liverpool with family living at 28 Mason >> St, West >> Derby occ Band master 12th L.a.r? and some of his nighbours are >> military >> or pensioners. >> >> Can explain what regiment he was in 12th Foot or 29 and anything >> else that > >> will help? >> >> thank you - Sue >> > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

The 12th Foot was (I think!) the Suffolk Regiment. From 1782 to 1881 it was known as "12th (East Suffolk) Regiment of Foot". From 1860 to 1866 the 1st Battalion was in New Zealand but the 2nd Battalion was in England (don't know where) from 1858 until 1864 when they went to India and stayed there until 1877. The 1st Battalion was back in England from 1867 until 1872 when they went to Ireland. Your best point of contact might be via the Suffolk Regiment's website www.suffolkregiment.org - good luck Robert in Nantwich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Miller" <suemiller48@hotmail.com> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 06:09 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Band master in 12th Foot? > > I am hoping someone with a military background can help me on this one. > > Wm McEVOY bc1830 was a soldier...on 1861 census he is a private and the > record page just says Foot regiment 29 North Camp which is Farnborough > Hants. > > In 1871 he is 42 and in Liverpool with family living at 28 Mason St, West > Derby occ Band master 12th L.a.r? and some of his nighbours are military > or pensioners. > > Can explain what regiment he was in 12th Foot or 29 and anything else that > will help? > > thank you - Sue > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Don't know if it's any help Caroline but Isbister is a Shetland & Orkney name, any chance that your folks came down from the Northern Isles? Pat

And street DIRECTORIES : ))) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carolyn Parker" <ca.parker@comcast.net> >To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:22 >Subject: [ENG-LIV] when all else fails? > > > > Hi List, I am really stuck! What do you do when you feel you have > > exhausted all resources, i.e. IGI, Lanc OPR, findmypast, and > > ancestry.com? These are the databases that I have access to. I am > > searching for vital records before 1786 in Liverpool. Families: > > Isbister/Ivester, McCrum and Appleton. Any suggestions most > > appreciated. Carolyn in Boston, MA

Hi Carolyn, Sadly, it may be a matter of patience while waiting for databases to be updated. Or you could try ordering fiche from the LDS for any churches you are interested in that haven't yet appeared online. You could also try the National Archives Documents Online service http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/?source=ddmenu_search5 Also, with a name like Isbester/Ivester it might pay to start looking at the appearance of the name outside that of Liverpool, as I think I'm right in saying that the name is of celtic origin. As is McCrum. Regards, Sally

Terry, I have a record of a William Heath living on Merseyside who had a son Frank and I just wonder if it could be the same person. This William married Isabella Goodall at West Derby in 1873. William and Isabella also had children: Sarah, Robert (an insurance clerk) and David. David -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Heath Sent: 17 October 2009 10:54 To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Frank HEATH- 1911 Census Kathy First, please let me apologise for the typo in my request message. William HEATH died in Feb. 1910 not 1920. I think that it must be Insurance Clerk as father William was an Insurance Broker. BTW, I saw some information about 1911 searches that might be useful to yourself and other List members. QUOTE: to make sure that you're not missing out. If you've already paid to view the original census schedule there are several more pages that you can now view for no extra charge. To view all the extra information, log-in at the 1911 Census site, then click on my records in the menu that runs across the top of the page. Go to any of the records listed as 'Address Original Page' or 'Household Original Page', then click VIEW. When the page appears you'll see a list of other pages across the top that are free once you have paid for the main image These usually include details of the enumerator, a brief description of the enumeration district, and an image of two pages listing addresses and householder names: typically one page will list your relative and 24 neighbouring householders, the other will show 25 householders from a nearby street (because of the way the Enumerator's Summary Book has been photographed the pages are usually not consecutive). Tip: look out for names you recognise - relatives often lived near to each other If there's a name that looks familiar, you'll probably want to know who else was in that household (apart from the householder), and the good news is that this information is also FREE! All you need to do is note the Schedule number shown for that household, then carry out a Census Reference Search, which is easiest to do at findmypast.com (but see the tip below) Apart from the Schedule number you'll also need the Piece Number and the Enumeration District which were shown for the original household (look for the references which begin RG14PN and ED). The other references can be omitted, at least in my experience. Tip: if you carry out a Census Reference Search at the 1911 Census site you'll see the ages of the household members - this information isn't given in the free search results at findmypast.com END QUOTE Terry Heath Cheltenham UK ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Terry, will reply to you original mail off list. I did not notice your typo........................but Frank is a year younger than your calculation! Thanks for all the tips about viewing extra pages for free. However, 6 month and yearly subscriptions for 1911 are now available. Cheaper in many cases than pay per view. Cheers kathy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Heath" <th005c0859@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:54 AM To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Frank HEATH- 1911 Census > Kathy > First, please let me apologise for the typo in my request message. > William HEATH died in Feb. 1910 not 1920. > I think that it must be Insurance Clerk as father William was an Insurance > Broker. > BTW, I saw some information about 1911 searches that might be useful to > yourself and other List members. > QUOTE: to make sure that you're not missing out. If you've already paid > to > view the original census schedule there are several more pages that you > can > now view for no extra charge. > To view all the extra information, log-in at the 1911 Census site, then > click on my records in the menu that runs across the top of the page. Go > to > any of the records listed as 'Address Original Page' or 'Household > Original > Page', then click VIEW. When the page appears you'll see a list of other > pages across the top that are free once you have paid for the main image > > These usually include details of the enumerator, a brief description of > the > enumeration district, and an image of two pages listing addresses and > householder names: typically one page will list your relative and 24 > neighbouring householders, the other will show 25 householders from a > nearby > street (because of the way the Enumerator's Summary Book has been > photographed the pages are usually not consecutive). > > Tip: look out for names you recognise - relatives often lived near to each > other > > If there's a name that looks familiar, you'll probably want to know who > else > was in that household (apart from the householder), and the good news is > that this information is also FREE! All you need to do is note the > Schedule > number shown for that household, then carry out a Census Reference Search, > which is easiest to do at findmypast.com (but see the tip below) > > Apart from the Schedule number you'll also need the Piece Number and the > Enumeration District which were shown for the original household (look for > the references which begin RG14PN and ED). The other references can be > omitted, at least in my experience. > > Tip: if you carry out a Census Reference Search at the 1911 Census site > you'll see the ages of the household members - this information isn't > given > in the free search results at findmypast.com > > END QUOTE > > Terry Heath > Cheltenham UK > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi - thanks for writing - Yes, you are right - it is an Orkney name - think they did but I haven't found any documentation of it i.e. when, etc... Carolyn At 01:42 PM 10/17/2009, you wrote: >Don't know if it's any help Caroline but Isbister is a Shetland & >Orkney name, any chance that your folks came down from the Northern Isles? >Pat >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Sally for your suggestions - all new to me! Carolyn At 12:29 PM 10/17/2009, you wrote: >Hi Carolyn, > > > >Sadly, it may be a matter of patience while waiting for databases to >be updated. Or you could try ordering fiche from the LDS for any >churches you are interested in that haven't yet appeared online. > > > >You could also try the National Archives Documents Online service >http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/?source=ddmenu_search5 > > > >Also, with a name like Isbester/Ivester it might pay to start >looking at the appearance of the name outside that of Liverpool, as >I think I'm right in saying that the name is of celtic origin. As is McCrum. > > > >Regards, > >Sally > > > >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, I think you will find that soldiers sometimes switched regiments. Mine certainly did. Regards, Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Miller" <suemiller48@hotmail.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 06:09 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Band master in 12th Foot? > > I am hoping someone with a military background can help me on this one. > > > > Wm McEVOY bc1830 was a soldier...on 1861 census he is a private and the > record page just says Foot regiment 29 North Camp which is Farnborough > Hants. > > > > In 1871 he is 42 and in Liverpool with family living at 28 Mason St, West > Derby occ Band master 12th L.a.r? and some of his nighbours are military > or pensioners. > > > > Can explain what regiment he was in 12th Foot or 29 and anything else that > will help? > > > > thank you > > > > Sue > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with your friends through Messenger on your mobile > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks - I never heard of it! Carolyn At 12:16 PM 10/17/2009, you wrote: >You could ask for a lookup from the BVRI (British Vital Records Index.) >which is not mentioned as much as it used to be. > >Joan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carolyn Parker" <ca.parker@comcast.net> >To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:22 >Subject: [ENG-LIV] when all else fails? > > > > Hi List, I am really stuck! What do you do when you feel you have > > exhausted all resources, i.e. IGI, Lanc OPR, findmypast, and > > ancestry.com? These are the databases that I have access to. I am > > searching for vital records before 1786 in Liverpool. Families: > > Isbister/Ivester, McCrum and Appleton. Any suggestions most > > appreciated. Carolyn in Boston, MA > > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > > > The list admin can be contacted at > > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You could ask for a lookup from the BVRI (British Vital Records Index.) which is not mentioned as much as it used to be. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Parker" <ca.parker@comcast.net> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:22 Subject: [ENG-LIV] when all else fails? > Hi List, I am really stuck! What do you do when you feel you have > exhausted all resources, i.e. IGI, Lanc OPR, findmypast, and > ancestry.com? These are the databases that I have access to. I am > searching for vital records before 1786 in Liverpool. Families: > Isbister/Ivester, McCrum and Appleton. Any suggestions most > appreciated. Carolyn in Boston, MA > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carolyn, I'm in the same position as you, unable to progress any further with my paternal family beyond a 1793 wedding located in a Liverpool parish register and containing no vital details such as parents names. I inquired at the Lancashire records office re. a wedding licence and was told that as a rule the licence would be given to the bride or groom and as such would not be archived at their location I am trying a new track and have applied to Cheshire record office for any sign of a Marriage allegation or Bond between my ggg grand parents. Any Lancashire Bonds made south of the River Ribble seem to have been archived in the Cheshire office, this boundary would include Liverpool in its catchment area. I am holding my breath waiting for an answer. Good Luck Carolyn <recordoffice@cheshire.gov.uk> Dave D. > Hi List, I am really stuck! What do you do when you feel you have > exhausted all resources, i.e. IGI, Lanc OPR, findmypast, and > ancestry.com? These are the databases that I have access to. I am > searching for vital records before 1786 in Liverpool. Families: > Isbister/Ivester, McCrum and Appleton. Any suggestions most > appreciated. Carolyn in Boston, MA > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List, I am really stuck! What do you do when you feel you have exhausted all resources, i.e. IGI, Lanc OPR, findmypast, and ancestry.com? These are the databases that I have access to. I am searching for vital records before 1786 in Liverpool. Families: Isbister/Ivester, McCrum and Appleton. Any suggestions most appreciated. Carolyn in Boston, MA

I am hoping someone with a military background can help me on this one. Wm McEVOY bc1830 was a soldier...on 1861 census he is a private and the record page just says Foot regiment 29 North Camp which is Farnborough Hants. In 1871 he is 42 and in Liverpool with family living at 28 Mason St, West Derby occ Band master 12th L.a.r? and some of his nighbours are military or pensioners. Can explain what regiment he was in 12th Foot or 29 and anything else that will help? thank you Sue _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with your friends through Messenger on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

Kathy First, please let me apologise for the typo in my request message. William HEATH died in Feb. 1910 not 1920. I think that it must be Insurance Clerk as father William was an Insurance Broker. BTW, I saw some information about 1911 searches that might be useful to yourself and other List members. QUOTE: to make sure that you're not missing out. If you've already paid to view the original census schedule there are several more pages that you can now view for no extra charge. To view all the extra information, log-in at the 1911 Census site, then click on my records in the menu that runs across the top of the page. Go to any of the records listed as 'Address Original Page' or 'Household Original Page', then click VIEW. When the page appears you'll see a list of other pages across the top that are free once you have paid for the main image These usually include details of the enumerator, a brief description of the enumeration district, and an image of two pages listing addresses and householder names: typically one page will list your relative and 24 neighbouring householders, the other will show 25 householders from a nearby street (because of the way the Enumerator's Summary Book has been photographed the pages are usually not consecutive). Tip: look out for names you recognise - relatives often lived near to each other If there's a name that looks familiar, you'll probably want to know who else was in that household (apart from the householder), and the good news is that this information is also FREE! All you need to do is note the Schedule number shown for that household, then carry out a Census Reference Search, which is easiest to do at findmypast.com (but see the tip below) Apart from the Schedule number you'll also need the Piece Number and the Enumeration District which were shown for the original household (look for the references which begin RG14PN and ED). The other references can be omitted, at least in my experience. Tip: if you carry out a Census Reference Search at the 1911 Census site you'll see the ages of the household members - this information isn't given in the free search results at findmypast.com END QUOTE Terry Heath Cheltenham UK