Whilst researching my FLEMING ancestors that moved down to Liverpool from Westmorland, I came across this unusual Marriage Notice in the Liverpool Mercury of Saturday November 1, 1862 - HADEN-FLEMING. October 1, at the British Consulate, Port-Au-Prince Haytu, Thomas Haden, Esq., of Gonaives, eldest son of the late Richard Wright Haden, Esq., of Derby, to Fanny Fleming, youngest daughter of Thomas Fleming, Esq., of this town. Fanny was christened FRANCES ISABELLA FLEMING at St Peter, Liverpool on 29 January 1835 - the youngest of 8 children born to Thomas Fleming & Frances (nee Pearce); her father being the son of Leonard Fleming and Mary (nee Coward) - both of whom came from Westmorland. I have Fanny of the 1841 census with her family at Halewood Lane, Much Woolton but had not been able to locate her again until I found this marriage. I am intrigued as to how/why she went out to Haiti. Are there any passenger lists for such a voyage from Liverpool, that might help me locate when she went to Haiti ? If anyone else has Fleming interests in Liverpool, then I would be pleased to hear from them. Derek Bradshaw.

There is an error in the Birthplace stated. There is no Brentwood in Gloucestershire, Only one in Essex and google says that there is on in Tennessee Terry Heath Cheltenham UK

I took pictures of seven grassy spots in Toxteth Park cemetery, I figured that's the least I could do for these poor forgotten (not by me) people. Later that day it hit me, how sad and what wretched lives these folks had. Made me count my blessings. Dave D. > Hi > I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same > thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 > grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the > cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only > grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone > could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor > quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and > leaves. Very disappointing!! > Carolyn > > At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >> Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years ago after >> a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish kin had >> no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that the >> Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many of them >> including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely could not >> afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse and would >> have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no indications >> existed in this area also. >> One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >> lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience and >> helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >> A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery >> >> Dave D. >> >>> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we set off >>> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, and we >>> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, despite >>> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, vertical or >>> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >>> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a single >>> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That particular >>> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and leaves. Very disappointing!! Carolyn At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years ago after >a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish kin had >no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that the >Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many of them >including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely could not >afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse and would >have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no indications >existed in this area also. >One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience and >helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery > >Dave D. > > > Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we set off > > to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, and we > > were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, despite > > high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, vertical or > > flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early > > unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a single > > solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That particular > > section now seemed in current use for rememberance. > > >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There again, Jo, this is his appearance in the 1881 census but with a different birthplace, so is this the reason why he's your brick wall? :o) Name: Enoch Williams Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Brentwood, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Bootle Cum Linacre County/Island: Lancashire Street Address: 15 Canal St Occupation: Timber Labourer Enoch Williams 32 Ann Williams 41 George E. Williams 6 Elizabeth A. Williams 4 Regards, Sally > My great Grandfather Enoch Williams died 27 Feb. 1893 in Bootle. I know he was married at St. Micheal, Parish of the Hill Toxteth Park. Any ideas of where he might have been buried?? > He died from a fall down steps and there was an inquest -- I understand there are no records of inquests left?? > He is my brick wall -- and I am hoping i can get a few clues about him from the burial records. > Many thanks for any info -- Jo

I'm afraid that I can't answer your burial question. However, you say that he is your brickwall, and if that means that you know nothing about him, this may be something to consider.. Name: Enoch Williams Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Sappleton, Essex, England Civil parish: Bootle Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Bootle Street Address: 80 Millers Bridge Occupation: Bird Dealer Enoch Williams 48 Ann Williams 50 Wife (born Liverpool) George E Williams 16 Son (born Liverpool) Elizabeth A Williams 14 Daughter (born Bootle) Charlotte Lewis 17 Daughter (born Bootle) Edith Lewis 12 Daughter (born Bootle) Daisy Lewis 8 Daughter (born Bootle) Martha Williams 86 Aunt (Widow born Higher Kinnerton) Regards, Sally Subject: [ENG-LIV] Enoch Williams burial > > Hi all -- > My great Grandfather Enoch Williams died 27 Feb. 1893 in Bootle. I know he was married at St. Micheal, Parish of the Hill Toxteth Park. Any ideas of where he might have been buried?? > He died from a fall down steps and there was an inquest -- I understand there are no records of inquests left?? > He is my brick wall -- and I am hoping i can get a few clues about him from the burial records. > Many thanks for any info -- Jo

Good afternoon, I am in Western Australia researching my maternal family history. My Uncle did a lot of research many years ago and has said that my Great G Grandfather died in Liverpool and was buried in Walton Cemetery. His name was Richard Williams, he was born c 1790 on the Island of Anglesey Wales spent time in India and died we believe in 1837 in Liverpool. Could someone tell me is there a Walton Cemetery and do they have a web page I can search? Thank you very much June

Hi you may like to look at www.liverpool-cemeteries.co.uk Just building the site, but I know a fair bit about Anfield and have found and photographed memorials for a few members Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire" <ocean9@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Anfield Cemetery > Hello Joan, > > This website has some burial details for Anfield Cemetery > http://liverpool-ancestors.co.uk/ > > Regards > > Claire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Lyons" <jlyons1044@earthlink.net> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > > >> Hi Steve and all....... >> >> Would there be such a site for Allerton, Anesfield, Ford and other >> cemeteries in and around Liverpool? >> >> Would they also have listings for all interred there over the years? >> >> Thanks, Toxteth Park cemetery a great site! >> Joan in USA >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Steve wrote: >> >>> try this >>> >>> www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <citizenuk@aol.com> >>> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:32 PM >>> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Could somebody please send me the web address of Toxteth Park >>>> Cemetery. >>>> >>>> Thanks much. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bryan Briscoe-Smith >>>> Email: citizenuk@aol.com >>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>> >>>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>>> >>>> The list admin can be contacted at >>>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you Googled it? there are number of entries for Toxteth Park Cemetery. Les. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen McNamara" <hennymac@snap.net.nz> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park >I would like to know also > Helen McNamara > New Zealand > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <citizenuk@aol.com> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:32 AM > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > > >> >> Could somebody please send me the web address of Toxteth Park Cemetery. >> >> Thanks much. >> >> >> Bryan Briscoe-Smith >> Email: citizenuk@aol.com >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: 11/12/09 > 14:33:00 > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This website is about St James Cemetery and has some burial records http://www.stjamescemetery.co.uk/

Hello Joan, This website has some burial details for Anfield Cemetery http://liverpool-ancestors.co.uk/ Regards Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Lyons" <jlyons1044@earthlink.net> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > Hi Steve and all....... > > Would there be such a site for Allerton, Anesfield, Ford and other > cemeteries in and around Liverpool? > > Would they also have listings for all interred there over the years? > > Thanks, Toxteth Park cemetery a great site! > Joan in USA > On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Steve wrote: > >> try this >> >> www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk >> >> >> Steve >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <citizenuk@aol.com> >> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:32 PM >> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park >> >> >>> >>> Could somebody please send me the web address of Toxteth Park >>> Cemetery. >>> >>> Thanks much. >>> >>> >>> Bryan Briscoe-Smith >>> Email: citizenuk@aol.com >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to know also Helen McNamara New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <citizenuk@aol.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > > Could somebody please send me the web address of Toxteth Park Cemetery. > > Thanks much. > > > Bryan Briscoe-Smith > Email: citizenuk@aol.com > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: 11/12/09 14:33:00

The Toxteth Park Cemetery site, that Claire mentions, http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/, has to be one of the finest in the country. It is an absolute labour of love. The transcriptions currently being made, from the dedication of the cemetery in 1856, could not be more comprehensive; name, abode, section number and actual plot number. Link the latter with the section/plot maps that are also available, and you are right on the spot were your ancestor was buried. A year back, I went a step further for my own searches, and superimposed the sections on a current google earth map and then printed that out. A friend went a stage further, and used her gps to add in the co-ordinates for the plots. Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we set off to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, and we were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, despite high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, vertical or flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a single solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That particular section now seemed in current use for rememberance. Obviously, much work has been done in recent years in renovating this very large South Liverpool resting place. Someone, with more detailed knowledge than myself, should be able to give more detail. However, some sections, because of the their "high" contour, gave the impression that they had been totally covered over, headstones included. Nonetheless, I would not put anyone off making their own searches in a similar way that I did; there are many thousands of graves still visible, and legible. Just to have the data from http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/ is a big bonus for me. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire" <ocean9@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > Hello Helen, > > The burial records for Toxteth Park Cemetery are being transcribed on this > website (currently from 1856-1934) http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/ > > The Liverpool City Council website has maps of all the cemeteries > http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Community_and_living/your_life/Deaths/Cemeteries_and_crematoria/index.asp > > This website has a few inscriptions from Toxteth Park Cemetery > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~toxtethparkcemetery/ > > Regards > > Claire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen McNamara" <hennymac@snap.net.nz> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:58 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > > >>I would like to know also >> Helen McNamara >> New Zealand >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <citizenuk@aol.com> >> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:32 AM >> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park >> >> >>> >>> Could somebody please send me the web address of Toxteth Park Cemetery. >>> >>> Thanks much. >>> >>> >>> Bryan Briscoe-Smith >>> Email: citizenuk@aol.com >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: >> 11/12/09 >> 14:33:00 >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Well said Mike! Joan in the USA On Nov 13, 2009, at 5:35 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > The Toxteth Park Cemetery site, that Claire mentions, > http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/, has to be one of the finest > in the > country. It is an absolute labour of love. The transcriptions > currently > being made, from the dedication of the cemetery in 1856, could not > be more > comprehensive; name, abode, section number and actual plot number. > Link the > latter with the section/plot maps that are also available, and you > are right > on the spot were your ancestor was buried. > > > > A year back, I went a step further for my own searches, and > superimposed the > sections on a current google earth map and then printed that out. A > friend > went a stage further, and used her gps to add in the co-ordinates > for the > plots. > > > > Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we > set off > to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, > and we > were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, > despite > high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, > vertical or > flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early > unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a single > solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That particular > section now seemed in current use for rememberance. > > > > Obviously, much work has been done in recent years in renovating > this very > large South Liverpool resting place. Someone, with more detailed > knowledge > than myself, should be able to give more detail. However, some > sections, > because of the their "high" contour, gave the impression that they > had been > totally covered over, headstones included. > > > > Nonetheless, I would not put anyone off making their own searches in a > similar way that I did; there are many thousands of graves still > visible, > and legible. Just to have the data from > http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/ is a big bonus for me. > > > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Claire" <ocean9@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > > >> Hello Helen, >> >> The burial records for Toxteth Park Cemetery are being transcribed >> on this >> website (currently from 1856-1934) http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/ >> >> The Liverpool City Council website has maps of all the cemeteries >> http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Community_and_living/your_life/Deaths/Cemeteries_and_crematoria/index.asp >> >> This website has a few inscriptions from Toxteth Park Cemetery >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ~toxtethparkcemetery/ >> >> Regards >> >> Claire >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Helen McNamara" <hennymac@snap.net.nz> >> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park >> >> >>> I would like to know also >>> Helen McNamara >>> New Zealand >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <citizenuk@aol.com> >>> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:32 AM >>> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Could somebody please send me the web address of Toxteth Park >>>> Cemetery. >>>> >>>> Thanks much. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bryan Briscoe-Smith >>>> Email: citizenuk@aol.com >>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>> >>>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>>> >>>> The list admin can be contacted at >>>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: >>> 11/12/09 >>> 14:33:00 >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/ >>> AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: > 11/12/09 > 14:33:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.62/2499 - Release Date: > 11/12/09 14:33:00 > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Many thanks Steve. Joan On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:45 AM, Steve wrote: > Hi > > yes there is a site for Allerton as that is were the main office is. > Best way is to google, ie, ford cemetery liverpool. If you google > liverpool city councils website and from the a-z index select C > look at cems and crematoriums and you will find maps of the > council cemeteries > > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Lyons" <jlyons1044@earthlink.net> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > > >> Hi Steve and all....... >> >> Would there be such a site for Allerton, Anesfield, Ford and other >> cemeteries in and around Liverpool? >> >> Would they also have listings for all interred there over the years? >> >> Thanks, Toxteth Park cemetery a great site! >> Joan in USA >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Steve wrote: >> >>> try this >>> >>> www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <citizenuk@aol.com> >>> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:32 PM >>> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Could somebody please send me the web address of Toxteth Park >>>> Cemetery. >>>> >>>> Thanks much. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bryan Briscoe-Smith >>>> Email: citizenuk@aol.com >>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>> >>>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>>> >>>> The list admin can be contacted at >>>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/ >>> AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

In which way is Enoch Jo's brickwall. Cliff

And we know that Enoch was 50 at death registration. Cliff

Hi yes there is a site for Allerton as that is were the main office is. Best way is to google, ie, ford cemetery liverpool. If you google liverpool city councils website and from the a-z index select C look at cems and crematoriums and you will find maps of the council cemeteries Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Lyons" <jlyons1044@earthlink.net> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park > Hi Steve and all....... > > Would there be such a site for Allerton, Anesfield, Ford and other > cemeteries in and around Liverpool? > > Would they also have listings for all interred there over the years? > > Thanks, Toxteth Park cemetery a great site! > Joan in USA > On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Steve wrote: > >> try this >> >> www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk >> >> >> Steve >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <citizenuk@aol.com> >> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:32 PM >> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park >> >> >>> >>> Could somebody please send me the web address of Toxteth Park >>> Cemetery. >>> >>> Thanks much. >>> >>> >>> Bryan Briscoe-Smith >>> Email: citizenuk@aol.com >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi yes there is a walton park cemetery, google it. Nearly all records are held by Liverpool Records Office There maybe a few inscriptions listed but no complete search facility Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "june walker" <junea@westnet.com.au> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:11 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Walton Cemetery > Good afternoon, > I am in Western Australia researching my maternal family history. My > Uncle did a lot of research many years ago and has said that my Great G > Grandfather died in Liverpool and was buried in Walton Cemetery. > His name was Richard Williams, he was born c 1790 on the Island of > Anglesey Wales spent time in India and died we believe in 1837 in > Liverpool. > Could someone tell me is there a Walton Cemetery and do they have a web > page I can search? > Thank you very much > June > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years ago after a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish kin had no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that the Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many of them including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely could not afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse and would have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no indications existed in this area also. One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience and helpfulness is rarely seen these days. A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery Dave D. > Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we set off > to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, and we > were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, despite > high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, vertical or > flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early > unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a single > solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That particular > section now seemed in current use for rememberance.