Thanks, Terry. I usually use Genuki to suss out where places are, but obviously you've got good personal knowledge too judging by where you live :o) Either way, I do hope Jo manages to get through her brickwall with Enoch and from whence he sprang.... Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: th005c0859@blueyonder.co.uk > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:32:22 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Enoch Williams burial > > Sally > Both Salperton and Sapperton are in Gloucestershire, do search using > google.co.uk to see both small villages. > Sapperton is off the A419 between Cirencester and Stroud. > Salperton is off the A436, between Andoversford and Bourton on the Water > Terry Heath > Cheltenham UK > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Audrey In 1911, the Licensee of The Castle at 123 Breck Road was Mrs. Anne Jane Lewis I have sent you a scan off-line of the Gore's Directory Terry Heath Cheltenham UK

Am I the only person to think that this subject is 'off topic'. Surely there are plenty of other sites where this kind of thing can be discussed. To my mind this is not what this list is for. Please, let's get back to family history research!! Megan

---  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Today's Topics:    1. Re: Enoch Williams burial (Terry Heath)    2. Re: Toxteth Park cemetery .. (Glenys Woosnam)    3. Re: Toxteth Park cemetery .. (Vern Prescott)    4. 123 Breck Road (Audreywgoodier@aol.com)    5. Re: Toxteth Park cemetery .. (dave)    6. Re: Toxteth Park cemetery .. (Marj Bennett)  Audrey, what is the name of the pub?  My ancestors lived in and around this area and , as I still live in Liverpool, perhaps I could go look! Barbara in Liverpool

Come on Dave - let's be havin' it! Marj There are many instances of strange things happening in graveyards. I gave a short presentation to our local genealogy group about two strange things that happened to me........ Spooky Dave D. Canada

Hi It was to do with family history that this photo came about. It was whilst searching for family gravestones for a cousin in Australia. So it is still relevant! Mike --- On Sat, 14/11/09, William E. Gard <bill_gard@telus.net> wrote: From: William E. Gard <bill_gard@telus.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 20:18 I think it is very much family related.  I'd love to see the photos.  I work, as a volunteer, in a haunted house.  I've never seen the ghosts - one is of a Chinese boy who hanged himself in the basement. Bill in Nanaimo ----- Original Message ----- From: "hobby.horse" <hobby.horse@tiscali.co.uk> To: "LIVERPOOL Mailing List" <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > Am I the only person to think that this subject is 'off topic'. Surely > there are plenty of other sites where this kind of thing can be discussed. > To my mind this is not what this list is for. > > Please, let's get back to family history research!! > > Megan > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sally Both Salperton and Sapperton are in Gloucestershire, do search using google.co.uk to see both small villages. Sapperton is off the A419 between Cirencester and Stroud. Salperton is off the A436, between Andoversford and Bourton on the Water Terry Heath Cheltenham UK

I think it is very much family related. I'd love to see the photos. I work, as a volunteer, in a haunted house. I've never seen the ghosts - one is of a Chinese boy who hanged himself in the basement. Bill in Nanaimo ----- Original Message ----- From: "hobby.horse" <hobby.horse@tiscali.co.uk> To: "LIVERPOOL Mailing List" <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > Am I the only person to think that this subject is 'off topic'. Surely > there are plenty of other sites where this kind of thing can be discussed. > To my mind this is not what this list is for. > > Please, let's get back to family history research!! > > Megan > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Light, mists and cameras themselves can play funny tricks. I'm sure Richard Wiseman would like to see this. http:// richardwiseman.wordpress.com/ (Remember the Tantallon Ghost?) Judy On 14 Nov 2009, at 11:28, David Carr wrote: > Mike > > ok you've got our interest ..... can we see it? > > Dave > On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:51, Mike Hayes wrote: > > Hi > I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had > either been vandalised, > not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the > 1940's. However, on taking a photograph with my digital of the area > I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that > showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On > giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as > a mother and daughter. > When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it > revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild > and helmet with plumage. > > Mike Hayes > > --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: > > From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 > > Hi > I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same > thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 > grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the > cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only > grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone > could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor > quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and > leaves. Very disappointing!! > Carolyn > > At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >> Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years >> ago after >> a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish >> kin had >> no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that >> the >> Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many >> of them >> including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely >> could not >> afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse >> and would >> have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no >> indications >> existed in this area also. >> One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to >> great >> lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience >> and >> helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >> A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery >> >> Dave D. >> >>> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we >>> set off >>> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, >>> and we >>> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >>> despite >>> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, >>> vertical or >>> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >>> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a >>> single >>> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That >>> particular >>> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Mike ok you've got our interest ..... can we see it? Dave On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:51, Mike Hayes wrote: Hi I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had either been vandalised, not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the 1940's. However, on taking a photograph with my digital of the area I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as a mother and daughter. When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild and helmet with plumage. Mike Hayes --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 Hi I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and leaves. Very disappointing!! Carolyn At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: > Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years > ago after > a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish > kin had > no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that > the > Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many > of them > including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely > could not > afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse > and would > have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no > indications > existed in this area also. > One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great > lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience > and > helpfulness is rarely seen these days. > A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery > > Dave D. > >> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we >> set off >> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, >> and we >> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >> despite >> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, >> vertical or >> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a >> single >> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That >> particular >> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers. I am new to this list could anyone help, I am looking for information on a Pub at 123 Breck Road it was there in 1911, is it still there? or are there any photos about as it was, my Grand Uncle was the landlord before he died in 1904. Audrey

Mike, I would love to see this photo as well. Perhaps you could put it up on google web albums or flickr or some other web page and send us a link? Vern in Ontario >> Hi >> I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had >> either been vandalised, >> not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the >> 1940's. However, on taking a photograph with my digital of the area >> I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that >> showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On >> giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as >> a mother and daughter. >> When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it >> revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild >> and helmet with plumage. >> >> Mike Hayes >> >> --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. >> To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 >> >> Hi >> I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same >> thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 >> grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the >> cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only >> grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone >> could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor >> quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and >> leaves. Very disappointing!! >> Carolyn >> >> At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >>> Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years >>> ago after >>> a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish >>> kin had >>> no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that >>> the >>> Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many >>> of them >>> including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely >>> could not >>> afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse >>> and would >>> have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no >>> indications >>> existed in this area also. >>> One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >>> lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience >>> and >>> helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >>> A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery >>> >>> Dave D. >>> >>>> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we >>>> set off >>>> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, >>>> and we >>>> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >>>> despite >>>> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, >>>> vertical or >>>> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >>>> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a >>>> single >>>> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That >>>> particular >>>> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. >>> >>> >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are many instances of strange things happening in graveyards. I gave a short presentation to our local genealogy group about two strange things that happened to me........ Spooky Dave D. Canada > I 2 would like to see the photo PLEASE. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Carr" <carrspace@mac.com> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. > > >> Mike >> >> ok you've got our interest ..... can we see it? >> >> Dave >> On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:51, Mike Hayes wrote: >> >> Hi >> I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had >> either been vandalised, >> not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the >> 1940's. However, on taking a photograph with my digital of the area >> I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that >> showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On >> giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as >> a mother and daughter. >> When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it >> revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild >> and helmet with plumage. >> >> Mike Hayes >> >> --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. >> To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 >> >> Hi >> I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same >> thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 >> grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the >> cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only >> grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone >> could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor >> quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and >> leaves. Very disappointing!! >> Carolyn >> >> At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >>> Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years >>> ago after >>> a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish >>> kin had >>> no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that >>> the >>> Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many >>> of them >>> including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely >>> could not >>> afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse >>> and would >>> have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no >>> indications >>> existed in this area also. >>> One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >>> lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience >>> and >>> helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >>> A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery >>> >>> Dave D. >>> >>>> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we >>>> set off >>>> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, >>>> and we >>>> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >>>> despite >>>> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, >>>> vertical or >>>> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >>>> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a >>>> single >>>> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That >>>> particular >>>> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. >>> >>> >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers, More databases from those lovely Lancs OPC people... http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 13 November 2009 Baptisms 1844 to 1863 from the Parish of Little Marsden Marriages 1907 to 1921 from the Parish of North Meols Baptisms 1854 to 1857 from St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Prestwich A continuation of the Register for Baptisms 1843 to 1857 Burials 1726 to 1740 from St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Prestwich Baptisms 1831 to 1840 and Burials 1813 to 1830 from the Parish of Turton Happy hunting! Regards, Sally (in wind battered Buckinghamshire)

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Hi I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had either been vandalised, not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the 1940's. However, on taking  a photograph with my digital  of the area I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as a mother and daughter. When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild and helmet with plumage. Mike Hayes --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 Hi I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and leaves. Very disappointing!! Carolyn At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years ago after >a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish kin had >no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that the >Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many of them >including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely could not >afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse and would >have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no indications >existed in this area also. >One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience and >helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery > >Dave D. > > > Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we set off > > to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, and we > > were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, despite > > high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, vertical or > > flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early > > unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a single > > solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That particular > > section now seemed in current use for rememberance. > > >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi June, Where abouts are you in WA? I live in WA and have spent quite a deal of time researching Liverpool history through the cemeteries. If you are not aware the Church of Latter Day Saints has sixteen Family History Centres in WA. The web address is listed below. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/FHC/frameset_FHC.asp Each individual family history centre will obtain microfilm copies of Liverpool Burial Regsters for just about every cemetery in Liverpool - the hire cost is very cheap. I used to use the facility through the Warwick centre and it cost me $5.00 per month. The burial records for Walton Park Cemetery from 1856 - 1908 are all on microfilm - I just checked the listings. Go to Google and type in familysearch Under the "LIBRARY" menu go to "LIBRARY CATALOGUE" and do a "PLACE NAME" search "ENGLAND- LANCASHIRE-LIVERPOOL" is the obvious one you want and you will be presented with a total list of all the Liverpool details they hold in their files. Click through the cemeteries listings and you will find "WALTON PARKCEMETERY" You then order the appropriate film via the number they have listed. If you get stuck, please get back to me. Good Luck, Phil Western Australia > june walker <junea@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > Good afternoon, > I am in Western Australia researching my maternal family history. My > Uncle did a lot of research many years ago and has said that my Great G > Grandfather died in Liverpool and was buried in Walton Cemetery. > His name was Richard Williams, he was born c 1790 on the Island of > Anglesey Wales spent time in India and died we believe in 1837 in > Liverpool. > Could someone tell me is there a Walton Cemetery and do they have a web > page I can search? > Thank you very much > June > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Terry This will be an interesting search for Jo with the 1881 v 1891 census entries.... There's a Brentwood in Essex, but no Sapperton. There is a Salperton in Gloucestershire, however. Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: th005c0859@blueyonder.co.uk > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:58:34 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Enoch Williams burial > > There is an error in the Birthplace stated. > There is no Brentwood in Gloucestershire, Only one in Essex and google says > that there is on in Tennessee > Terry Heath > Cheltenham UK

Hi I live in Liverpool and would just like to clarify a couple of things. If a person died in a workhouse, had no relatives, no money and no family plot, then the usual thing was to bury them in a public grave along with maybe five others. There would be no stone or marker, so all you see is grass. I mainly concern myself with Anfield Cemetery and if you look at some of the burial records it is not unusal to see the same plot number against different names, it also says public grave. A lot of people have mentioned to me about the 1000,s of stones that are laying down, some say vandalism, which isn't true. It is for health and safety reasons as the stones are unsafe and could fall over killing someone, hence why they are pushed over, and it is the plot.s owners responsability to sort it out, but, as most are over 100 years old the family has either died out, or moved. Liverpool council are slowly re-erecting them by digging down about 2 foot and putting the stone back vertical. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Parker" <ca.parker@comcast.net> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. > Hi > I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same > thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 > grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the > cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only > grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone > could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor > quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and > leaves. Very disappointing!! > Carolyn > > At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >>Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years ago >>after >>a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish kin >>had >>no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that the >>Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many of >>them >>including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely could not >>afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse and >>would >>have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no indications >>existed in this area also. >>One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >>lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience and >>helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >>A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery >> >>Dave D. >> >> > Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we set >> > off >> > to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, and >> > we >> > were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >> > despite >> > high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, vertical >> > or >> > flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >> > unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a single >> > solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That particular >> > section now seemed in current use for rememberance. >> >> >>~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >>Admin Message - List guidelines: >>http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >>The list admin can be contacted at >>Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message