Thanks to Sally, Allen and Christine I have thomas and Sarah on the 1861 census. I know Thomas married again in 1879 to Hannah Bond, and it is possible Sarah died in 1877, but where they where in 1871 is still a mystery. But thank you for looking for me. Best Wishes Hilary.

Hi again Here she is with her parents Christine 1841 England Census about Samuel Youdes Name: Samuel Youdes [Samuel Youd] Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Liverpool Hundred: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park Samuel Youdes 35 Hannah Youdes 30 Samues Youdes 5 John Youdes 2 Sarah Youdes 5 Mo ************** Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 568; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Liverpool; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 80; Folio: 31; Page: 3; Line: 2; GSU roll: 438720. 1851 England Census Name: Sarah Ann Jeude [Sarah Ann Youd] [Sarah Ann Youde] Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Anne Gender: Female Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 1tt Samuel Jeude 46 1805 Where born: Gresford, Cheshire, England Anne Jeude 42 Where born: Gresford, Cheshire, England Samuel Jeude 14 born liverpool Sarah Ann Jeude 10 born liverpool************** Jane Jeude 6 born liverpool James Ashcroft 19 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2187; Folio: 162; Page: 1; GSU roll: 87194.

Hi again Here she is with her parents Christine 1841 England Census about Samuel Youdes Name: Samuel Youdes [Samuel Youd] Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Liverpool Hundred: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Youdes 35 Hannah Youdes 30 Samues Youdes 5 John Youdes 2 Sarah Youdes 5 Mo ************** Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 568; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Liverpool; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 80; Folio: 31; Page: 3; Line: 2; GSU roll: 438720. 1851 England Census about Sarah Ann Jeude Name: Sarah Ann Jeude [Sarah Ann Youd] [Sarah Ann Youde] Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Anne Gender: Female Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 1tt Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Jeude 46 1805 Where born: Gresford, Cheshire, England Anne Jeude 42 Where born: Gresford, Cheshire, England Samuel Jeude 14 born liverpool Sarah Ann Jeude 10 born liverpool************** Jane Jeude 6 born liverpool James Ashcroft 19 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2187; Folio: 162; Page: 1; GSU roll: 87194.

hilary.rimmer@sky.com wrote snip< For Sarah Ann Clarke, nee Youds, aged about 29 born in Liverpool, Hi this looks like the marriage and I have found her and her parents 41 and 51 her parents in 1861 but cant find Sarah in 61 or 71 Christine Marriages Dec 1858 CLARKE Thomas Liverpool 8b94 Latham John Liverpool 8b94 Stanger Elizabeth Liverpool 8b94 Youd Sarah Ann Liverpool 8b94 Christine

Hi Hilary ... and I can't either: nor can I find the marriage on freeBMD or Lancs/CheshireBMD, and I can find only one (slimly) possible candidate for a Sarah Youds in early censuses (1841), but she is several years out in age. Best wishes Allen On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:16:10 -0000, sally roberts <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Hilaray, > Sorry, but I couldn't find Sarah anywhere in 1871 with this information. > In fact, I couldn't find her in any census with the people you've > mentioned, and I also checked for the obvious mis-spellings. > How certain are you of the details that you have on the family? > Regards, > Sally > > >> Subject: [ENG-LIV] An 1871 Request Please >> >> For Sarah Ann Clarke, nee Youds, aged about 29 born in Liverpool, she >> could be with her husband Thomas born at Chester, and she could be with >> her daughter aged 10, Mary Jane. >> Thank You >> Hilary. > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Hi Hilaray, Sorry, but I couldn't find Sarah anywhere in 1871 with this information. In fact, I couldn't find her in any census with the people you've mentioned, and I also checked for the obvious mis-spellings. How certain are you of the details that you have on the family? Regards, Sally > Subject: [ENG-LIV] An 1871 Request Please > > For Sarah Ann Clarke, nee Youds, aged about 29 born in Liverpool, she could be with her husband Thomas born at Chester, and she could be with her daughter aged 10, Mary Jane. > Thank You > Hilary.

For Sarah Ann Clarke, nee Youds, aged about 29 born in Liverpool, she could be with her husband Thomas born at Chester, and she could be with her daughter aged 10, Mary Jane. Thank You Hilary.

Eddy for what it is worth ,by chance I was perusing the St Georges Evertonbaptisms on the Lancashire Parish site and I saw the following . Charles Samuel child of Charles and Mary Lunt 37 AdalaideSt Everton April 26th 1891.,from memory the Lunts had a large chain if Bakery shops in Liverpool John Maddocks

cdraisey@mchsi.com wrote snip>I am searching for a place of residence and more information about William GUNNING, son of James Gunning Hi Christine Can you give us a few more details about your GUNNINGS date and place of birth etc (if you know) Christine

John, hi. thanks for your message, and the answer is yes I do know of them, distant cousins 2 or 3 times removed, but im anxious to find out if the Eliz Lunt married to Robert Kelly is mine, after that ive sorted out all my grandma and granddads, family, total 11 in all, thanks again EDDIE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Maddocks" <maddocks@nettel.net.nz> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Lunts > Eddy for what it is worth ,by chance I was perusing the St Georges > Evertonbaptisms on the Lancashire Parish site and I saw the following . > Charles Samuel child of Charles and Mary Lunt 37 AdalaideSt Everton > April 26th 1891.,from memory the Lunts had a large chain if Bakery shops > in Liverpool > John Maddocks > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 270.14.94/2545 - Release Date: 12/04/09 19:34:00

Hello Christine, The only thing I have is the marriage certificate, indicating both parties were of age, and both their fathers were gardeners. I know Mary's wasn't (labourer), so maybe that wasn't William's or father James' occupation either. Mary Brown was born 1845, so likely William Gunning was born around the same time. I'm inclined to think the Gunning name could be Irish. Since I can't find him in the 1871 nor 1881 censuses I have little to go on. Actually, though, I'm more interested in what happened to him after 1877 . . . doubt if he was "out of favour" as his step-daughter kept his photograph, a copy of which is in my possession. Thanks for your interest. Christine Draisey, USA

Hi Listers, The Lancs OPC site has been updated again: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html and the following databases have been added.... 5 December 2009 Baptisms 1897 to 1900 from the church of St George in the Parish of Chorley Marriages 1882 to 1893 from the Church of St Oswald, in the District of Collyhurst, Manchester Baptisms and Burials 1854 from the Church of St Nicholas, Liverpool Baptisms 1816 to 1818 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Baptisms 1839 to 1863 and 1889 to 1900 from the Church of St Andrew in the Parish of Longton Burials 1757 to 1775 from the Parish of Newchurch in Rossendale Marriages 1793 to 1795 from the Parish of Prestwich Completes the Register for Marriages 1793 to 1800 Burials 1884 to 1887 from the Church of St Thomas, in the Parish of Radcliffe Baptisms 1716 to 1745 from the Parish of Woodplumpton Seasonal regards, Sally

G'day everyone, My ancestor Hugh Armstrong was born in 1806 in Galloon, County Fermanagh. He married Jane Nichols of Clones in 1832 and had three children before his death in 1843. His youngest child, my Great Great Grandfather was born in 1843 and baptised at Clogh in the parish of Clones, as were his elder siblings, Robert (1833) and Mary Ann (1841). (Clones straddles the Fermanagh-Monaghan border). The next sighting of the family after Hugh's death in 1843, is in Liverpool where his widow, Jane, and two of her children, Mary Ann and Thomas, are living at the time of the 1861 census. I have recently found a Robert Armstrong, born in "Ireland" ca. 1834 also living in Liverpool in the 1861 census. This Robert's marriage certificate gives his father as Hugh, occupation Farmer. Robert is sighted again in 1871 and apppears to have died in 1874. "My" Robert's father Hugh, was a soldier who was discharged to pension because of tuberculosis and didn't live long after his discharge. I have no record of Hugh being a farmer as such. My problem is that while I think the Robert in Liverpool is probably the brother of my Great Great Grandfather, Thomas, I currently don't have enough evidence to say "Yes! It's him!" Does anyone have any knowledge of a Robert Armstrong born ca. 1834 in Ireland and later living in Liverpool which may provide further clarification of this question? Regards David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia

I am searching for a place of residence and more information about William GUNNING, son of James Gunning (both gardeners?). He married Mary BROWN 1877 in St. Alban's, Liverpool. She emigrated to USA in 1880 but I can find no record that he accompanied her, and cannot find him in the 1881 census. He's not in the death indexes, either. So, I am hoping someone with access to the Liverpool directories for the 1875-1885 or so years might find him or his father. Also, is there a James BROWN, tailor? I really appreciate any help anyone can give me. Christine Draisey, Iowa, USA

Hi Ted You won't need to send for the marriage certificate if someone visits the Register Office & obtains the church record for you - the details will be the same. Happy hunting Maureen -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eddie lunt Sent: 05 December 2009 10:50 To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] ANYONE GOING TO THE LPOOL RECORDS OFFICE - AFAVORPLEASE. Hi Maureen, thanks for replying, yes there is, BUT Im not sure whether that she is my great aunt? What I really wanted is for someone who is visiting the Records Office to kindly look up the registers for the church to see if she is mine, her mom and dad would be CHARLES and ELIZABETH LUNT of Deysbrooke Lane, West Derby, Then I will send off for the marriage cert to either Liverpool RO or Southport. Southport charge for looking and Liverpool dont, but they take ages to look, and you cant contact them by email, because all you get is a basic email reply. my pension doesnt stretch to paying for just looking, I dont mind paying for the certificate, but thats it, and im not a mean devil its just it becomes an expensive business as you know buying certs. So there you are. thanks very much TED.

Hi Maureen, thanks for replying, yes there is, BUT Im not sure whether that she is my great aunt? What I really wanted is for someone who is visiting the Records Office to kindly look up the registers for the church to see if she is mine, her mom and dad would be CHARLES and ELIZABETH LUNT of Deysbrooke Lane, West Derby, Then I will send off for the marriage cert to either Liverpool RO or Southport. Southport charge for looking and Liverpool dont, but they take ages to look, and you cant contact them by email, because all you get is a basic email reply. my pension doesnt stretch to paying for just looking, I dont mind paying for the certificate, but thats it, and im not a mean devil its just it becomes an expensive business as you know buying certs. So there you are. thanks very much TED. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Eden" <maureen.eden@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] ANYONE GOING TO THE LPOOL RECORDS OFFICE - A FAVORPLEASE. > Hi Ted > > There's a marriage for Elizabeth Lunt to Robert Kelly in Sep Qtr 1933 in > Liverpool. The GRO reference is 8b 118. > > HTH > > Maureen > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eddie lunt > Sent: 04 December 2009 21:31 > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LIV] ANYONE GOING TO THE LPOOL RECORDS OFFICE - A FAVOR > PLEASE. > > hi everyone. Can someone do me a favor please by looking up the > marriages > for MOSLEY HILL, > ST MATHEW and ST JAMES Church, for a wedding entry for 1930 between > ELIZABETH LUNT > my g/aunt and ROBERT KELLY. > At least I think it is my g/aunt Elizabeth, daughter of Charles and > Elizabeth Lunt my grandparents, > of Deysbrook Lane West Derby! > > If it is, then I will send off for the marriage certificate, but sometimes > it takes so long to get a reply > from them as to yes/no! > and its a great help if I can say definitely that it is, then they arent > too > bad. > > Please, any help will be appreciated. > > You are so kind. TED. > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 270.14.94/2545 - Release Date: 12/04/09 19:34:00

Hi Ted There's a marriage for Elizabeth Lunt to Robert Kelly in Sep Qtr 1933 in Liverpool. The GRO reference is 8b 118. HTH Maureen -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eddie lunt Sent: 04 December 2009 21:31 To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] ANYONE GOING TO THE LPOOL RECORDS OFFICE - A FAVOR PLEASE. hi everyone. Can someone do me a favor please by looking up the marriages for MOSLEY HILL, ST MATHEW and ST JAMES Church, for a wedding entry for 1930 between ELIZABETH LUNT my g/aunt and ROBERT KELLY. At least I think it is my g/aunt Elizabeth, daughter of Charles and Elizabeth Lunt my grandparents, of Deysbrook Lane West Derby! If it is, then I will send off for the marriage certificate, but sometimes it takes so long to get a reply from them as to yes/no! and its a great help if I can say definitely that it is, then they arent too bad. Please, any help will be appreciated. You are so kind. TED. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi everyone. Can someone do me a favor please by looking up the marriages for MOSLEY HILL, ST MATHEW and ST JAMES Church, for a wedding entry for 1930 between ELIZABETH LUNT my g/aunt and ROBERT KELLY. At least I think it is my g/aunt Elizabeth, daughter of Charles and Elizabeth Lunt my grandparents, of Deysbrook Lane West Derby! If it is, then I will send off for the marriage certificate, but sometimes it takes so long to get a reply from them as to yes/no! and its a great help if I can say definitely that it is, then they arent too bad. Please, any help will be appreciated. You are so kind. TED.

Hello Listers I am after knowledge of THOMAS GATTER born in Farringdon, Devon in about 1828. Also he had a son JOSEPH GATTER born in Farringdon, Devon in about 1863. After this it looks as if the name changed to JOSEPH GATER. JOSEPH married MARY and had (amongst others) EDGAR R GATER. EDGAR GATER married (second time around) JESSIE FLORENCE JONES (nee DENCH); They went on to have 4 children: HANNAH E, EDITH W, LORNA and EDWIN N GATER. I believe that I know their marriages, but am not entirely sure. I believe that HANNAH married a GEORGE WALSH and went to Australia where they both died in the same month. It is very strongly believed that they all, at a later date, moved north to Liverpool. This would have been after 1934 as this is when their mother JESSIE died in 1934 and Edgar Gater remarried in 1936. I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who may know more about the GATER family to help me in my search for more information. Thank you very much for spending the time to read my email. Ann Sherman (nee Dench)

Hello everyone, Yet another fruitful visit to the OPC website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 3 December 2009 Baptisms 1770 to 1778 and Burials 1770 to 1776 from the Parish of Haslingden Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1751 to 1752 from the Parish of Newchurch in Rossendale - Filling in missing records from the respective registers for 1736 to 1756 Baptisms and Marriages 1757 to 1775 from the Parish of Newchurch in Rossendale Seasonal regards, Sally