Perhaps everybody is busy with the holiday preparations? However if somebody has a few spare moments, and access to the 1891 Census, I would be most grateful if you could help with the details of Mary Ellen Coward, born about 1870, and her family. I believe the family lived in Toxteth, or possibly, West Derby. May I wish a peaceful holiday to all list-members! John

We are the story-tellers For our family, We seek the people who have made Us as we are to be. We look for those of long ago Whose names have been unknown, For those who coped with tragedies And struggled on alone. For those whose lives were different from that of ours today, The hardships and joys are plentiful, Littered along the way. Our searching brings together Those on a similar trail, We talk, we support, we listen, We find, we achieve or fail. I thank my ancestors daily For the life they've given me, And the gift of community resurrected Is here for all to see. I will never find each person who's shaped my future here, >From East Anglia, Yorkshire, Scotland, London, and Lancashire. But somehow it doesn't matter That my past is incomplete, The friends that I have discovered Has been an unexpected treat. So here's to us researchers, For all the roles we play, Thank you each and everyone, And have a Merry Christmas day. With warm regards and all good wishes, Sally x

Lovely Poem Sally, Many thanks for all your hard work this year, so much appreciated. Merry Christmas to you and everyone on this fantastic list. From Lorraine, Wirral, England

Hi Betty, A gt gt Grandad of mine put his father as a master mariner. I eventually tracked said gt gt Grandad to the Thames area and his family were bargemen. Apparently, being in charge of a barge counted, so no sea, but possibly captain. There's loads of info on this at the National archive. After a certain date, all captains had to be registered. See http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=131&j=1 Regards Diane > From: bbffrrpp@comcast.net > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:05:23 -0500 > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] sea captains > > Hello, > > I'm curious whether "sea captains" and "master mariners" are 2 different > titles. My gr-gr-grandfather, Evan CORKILL, in Liverpool from 1860's > to 1900, but from Isle of Man, was a "master mariner." Would he have > also been a "sea captain?" > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "judy olsen" <copywriter@tesco.net> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:34 PM > Subject: [ENG-LIV] sea captains was Re: ENG-LIVERPOOL Digest, Vol 4, Issue > 525 > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

MERRY CHRISTMAS Have a happy new year ! To all on the list Emily

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Hi Judy I have a Nathaniel Quinn. born in Ireland aprox 1809. he was a Sailor, but not a sea captain. how can I find more info.? Cathy.

Thank you Emily, and a Very Merry Christmas to you and your family from Canada Sue

Hello, I'm curious whether "sea captains" and "master mariners" are 2 different titles. My gr-gr-grandfather, Evan CORKILL, in Liverpool from 1860's to 1900, but from Isle of Man, was a "master mariner." Would he have also been a "sea captain?" Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "judy olsen" <copywriter@tesco.net> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] sea captains was Re: ENG-LIVERPOOL Digest, Vol 4, Issue 525

Hi, I am researching a Martindale family. I'm trying to help another person and these are my notes to her... I am trying to verify some information but find that the data I need isn't on the birth index...why use bmds when the needed data isn't there?? Not sure I'm reading BMDs correctly... Nelda found: 1891 England Census about Catherine Martindale Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John b. 1850 ish, Liverpool Mother's Name: Mary A b. 1863 ish, Liverpool Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Islington ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Martindale 41 father- b 1850, Liverpool Mary A Martindale 28 mother - abt 1863, Liverpool Matthew Martindale 20 brother - abt 1871, Liverpool Peter Martindale 16 brother - abt 1875, Liverpool Mary E Martindale 14 sister - abt 1877, Liverpool Elizabeth Martindale 10 sister - abt 1881, Liverpool John Martindale 8 brother - abt 1883, Liverpool Thomas Martindale 6 brother - abt 1885, Liverpool Catherine Martindale 3 her - abt 1888, Liverpool Edward Martindale 1 brother - abt 1890, Liverpool ~~~~~~~~~~ now your next step is to look at the oldest child, Matthew Martindale 20 brother, but Mary A. is only 28, so this tells you she isn't Matthew, Peter, Mary's or Elizabeth's mother.. she is possibly John's, Thomas's Catherine's, and Edward's. We need a marriage record. ~~~~~~~~~~ So we look for the next census, 1881: 1881 England Census about John Martindale Name: John Martindale Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 2 Clayton Street Condition as to marriage: Widow Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Fisherman Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Islington ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Martindale 31 NO WIFE - Matthew Martindale 9 - Child of first wife b. about 1872 Peter Martindale 5 - Child of first wife b. about 1876 Mary Ellen Martindale 3 - Child of first wife Elizabeth Martindale no age showing - Child of first wife >>>>>> Mary Ann Ghent 17 Mary Ann Ghent is probably a house servant hired to help with the children/ after birth of Elizabeth and death of first wife... need next census. Occupation shows as servant. Note: Looking at the oldest child Matthew age 9 in 1881 census, indicates his marriage was possibly 1872 or before. Using my own judgement, I believe this is your man: 1871 England Census about John Martindale Name: John Martindale Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Thatto Heath, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Skelmersdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Lathom ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 101 Household Members: Name Age William Martindale 31 Henry Martindale 5 Elizabeth Martindale 3 John Martindale 21 YOUR MAN Now not proven, but very likely, John and William are brothers. So in the next census we look for John and William being children pof the same father?? Hopefully. 1861 England Census about John Martindale Name: John Martindale Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Brother-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Eccleston, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Eccleston Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Prescot ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Henry Lawrenson 28 Elizabeth Lawrenson 30 John Martindale 11 Here it lists a John as brother-in-law, so Elizabeth is his sister, Remember...He named a daughter Elizabeth... Now lets try to find William....he would be between 21 - 17 ish?? he in the 1871census was 31 and a widow, with children, so back up 10+ yrs for estimate age. Now, with John Living with a Brother-in-law that indicates a problem with the parents.. So? 1861 England Census about William Martindale Name: William Martindale Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Ormskirk, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Ormskirk Town: Ormskirk County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Ormskirk ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 56 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Martindale 59 b. 1802 - Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England - not listed as a widow, but no husband listed.. Looking at actual film - it still does not indicate she is a widow. Mary Martindale 25 Ann Martindale 21 Eccleston, Lancashire, England William Martindale 19 George C Fidge 17 ~~~ ################################################## England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Jane Martindale Name: Jane Martindale Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Year of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 35 District: Liverpool (1837-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 107 (click to see others on page) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

what are the names you are looking for? judy On 21 Dec 2009, at 22:04, Paula Robyn wrote: > I am seeking information on merchant mariners or sea captains from > Liverpool > between 1820 and 1860. Where might I go to find this information? > I am > looking both for names and for general information. > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:00 AM, <eng-liverpool- > request@rootsweb.com> wrote:

Hi David, Thanks for the tip! I have been searching for my Williamson ancestors from the Shetland Islands for ages and low and behold, there they were. I have not been able to find them on the NSW State records site so this is the best Christmas present. Regards, Nancy Milne NSW Australia > From: davidrli@iinet.net.au > To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:47:21 +0800 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Index to Bounty Immigrants arriving in New South Wales 1828-1842 > > G'day everyone, > > The LDS have just added (8th Dec.) the above index to the "Record Search Pilot" site on Family Search (see under "Search Records" on the home page. > > I've had a quick look and already noticed a few with references of interest. The index gives, name, age, residence in the UK, ship, and date. > > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1542665 > > Happy Hunting > > David Armstrong > Maylands > Western Australia > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/

I am seeking information on merchant mariners or sea captains from Liverpool between 1820 and 1860. Where might I go to find this information? I am looking both for names and for general information. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:00 AM, <eng-liverpool-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Be sure to use a subject line that is pertinent to your message and that > you snip out any text not relevant to your post. > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > List guidelines and useful links: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/EngLiverpool.htm > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/LiverpoolLinks.htm > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Lancs OPC update - 4 Dec 2009 (sally roberts) > 2. GATER FORMERLY GATTER FAMILY NAME (Ann Sherman) > 3. ANYONE GOING TO THE LPOOL RECORDS OFFICE - A FAVOR PLEASE. > (eddie lunt) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: sally roberts <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> > To: <eng-todmorden@rootsweb.com>, <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com>, < > eng-lan-wigan@rootsweb.com> > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:15:48 +0000 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Lancs OPC update - 4 Dec 2009 > > > Hello everyone, > > Yet another fruitful visit to the OPC website: > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html > > > 3 December 2009 > > Baptisms 1770 to 1778 and Burials 1770 to 1776 from the Parish of > Haslingden > > Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1751 to 1752 from the Parish of Newchurch > in Rossendale - Filling in missing records from the respective registers for > 1736 to 1756 > > Baptisms and Marriages 1757 to 1775 from the Parish of Newchurch in > Rossendale > > > Seasonal regards, > Sally > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Ann Sherman" <ann@8hcl.freeserve.co.uk> > To: "Eng Liverpool List" <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com> > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:34:46 -0000 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] GATER FORMERLY GATTER FAMILY NAME > Hello Listers > > I am after knowledge of THOMAS GATTER born in Farringdon, Devon in about > 1828. > > Also he had a son JOSEPH GATTER born in Farringdon, Devon in about 1863. > > After this it looks as if the name changed to JOSEPH GATER. > > JOSEPH married MARY and had (amongst others) EDGAR R GATER. > > EDGAR GATER married (second time around) JESSIE FLORENCE JONES (nee DENCH); > > They went on to have 4 children: HANNAH E, EDITH W, LORNA and EDWIN N > GATER. > > I believe that I know their marriages, but am not entirely sure. I believe > that HANNAH married a GEORGE WALSH and went to Australia where they both > died in the same month. > > It is very strongly believed that they all, at a later date, moved north to > Liverpool. This would have been after 1934 as this is when their mother > JESSIE died in 1934 and Edgar Gater remarried in 1936. > > I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who may know more about the > GATER family to help me in my search for more information. Thank you very > much for spending the time to read my email. > > > Ann Sherman (nee Dench) > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "eddie lunt" <eddie.lunt@ntlworld.com> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:31:25 -0000 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] ANYONE GOING TO THE LPOOL RECORDS OFFICE - A FAVOR > PLEASE. > hi everyone. Can someone do me a favor please by looking up the marriages > for MOSLEY HILL, > ST MATHEW and ST JAMES Church, for a wedding entry for 1930 between > ELIZABETH LUNT > my g/aunt and ROBERT KELLY. > At least I think it is my g/aunt Elizabeth, daughter of Charles and > Elizabeth Lunt my grandparents, > of Deysbrook Lane West Derby! > > If it is, then I will send off for the marriage certificate, but sometimes > it takes so long to get a reply > from them as to yes/no! > and its a great help if I can say definitely that it is, then they arent > too bad. > > Please, any help will be appreciated. > > You are so kind. TED. > > To contact the ENG-LIVERPOOL list administrator, send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-LIVERPOOL mailing list, send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >

Good morning Listers, There may be an early "Christmas present" or two in this batch of databases that I found on this morning's visit. Fingers crossed! http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 19 December 2009 Baptisms 1815 to 1839 from the Church of St Michael-in-the-Hamlet, in the district of Aigburth, Liverpool Baptisms 1884 to 1904 from the Church of St James, New Bury, Farnworth with Kearsley Burials 1866 from St John in the Town of Preston Completes the Register for Burials 1864 to 1866 and starts a new Register Baptisms 1765 to 1773 and 1775 and Burials 1760 to 1765 from St Chad in the Town of Rochdale Baptisms 1832 to 1847 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Toxteth, Liverpool Marriages 1849 to 1853 from All Saints in the Town of Wigan Seasonal Regards, Sally

Hi Gordon, On the website itself is the following information about recent additions and searches... "Please Note: Not all records available for viewing on the Parish pages are available in the Searchable Database. The process to incorporate records into the Searchable Database is a little more complex and there may be a delay before more recent additions to the site appear in the database. To view the Searchable records for any parish listed below, click the record count for that parish. You may then view the Searchable registers, with a count of records, for all the churches within that parish. You may also use the links provided to select any church within that parish. The searchable database was last updated on 23rd November 2009" I shall pass on your kind comments to the Lancs OPC co-ordinators, who in turn pass them on to all the voluntary transcribers. Thanks, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:44:06 +0000 > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > From: gordon@adshead.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Lancs OPC update - 17 Dec 2009 > > At 08:57 17/12/2009, sally roberts wrote: >>If you can find the time in between decking the halls With boughs of >>holly, shopping, cooking, writing, wrapping, and all the other >>seasonal duties, then the Lancs OPC has uploaded the following >>databases for your perusal: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html > > Many thanks to all those who are making this an increasingly valuable resource > particularly now that the powerful search facility has been restored. > > Can anyone confirm please whether or not the search mechanism also > includes all the new additions immediately at the time they are added > ? (or is the full index across all parishes only upgraded from time to time?) > > Best Gordon +Z > > > > +Z_______________+Z_______________+Z__________________________+Z > Gordon Adshead Manchester Design Technology > Beaumont House, 2 Goodrington Road, Handforth, Cheshire, SK9 3AT, England > Tel:Fax:Msg:+44-1625-549770 Mob:+44-777-6145602 > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 08:57 17/12/2009, sally roberts wrote: >If you can find the time in between decking the halls With boughs of >holly, shopping, cooking, writing, wrapping, and all the other >seasonal duties, then the Lancs OPC has uploaded the following >databases for your perusal: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html Many thanks to all those who are making this an increasingly valuable resource particularly now that the powerful search facility has been restored. Can anyone confirm please whether or not the search mechanism also includes all the new additions immediately at the time they are added ? (or is the full index across all parishes only upgraded from time to time?) Best Gordon +Z +Z_______________+Z_______________+Z__________________________+Z <http://www.adshead.com/> Gordon Adshead Manchester Design Technology Beaumont House, 2 Goodrington Road, Handforth, Cheshire, SK9 3AT, England Tel:Fax:Msg:+44-1625-549770 Mob:+44-777-6145602 <gordon@adshead.com>

Good Stuff Carolyn, I'm glad that you had some success, every little fact or clue helps to put the picture together. All the best Dave D. > Hi Dave, I just reread your reply and suggestion to look at the > Cheshire records. I discovered recently that my ancestor's will was > filed there even though he was a resident of Liverpool. You have > explained this to me. I was able to get a copy of the will through > the LDs Family History Center, in Salt Lake City. It provided a > number of new facts so it was a good find! Carolyn > > At 11:15 AM 10/17/2009, you wrote: >> Carolyn, I'm in the same position as you, unable to progress any further >> with my paternal family beyond a 1793 wedding located in a Liverpool parish >> register and containing no vital details such as parents names. >> I inquired at the Lancashire records office re. a wedding licence and was >> told that as a rule the licence would be given to the bride or groom and as >> such would not be archived at their location >> I am trying a new track and have applied to Cheshire record office for any >> sign of a Marriage allegation or Bond between my ggg grand parents. >> Any Lancashire Bonds made south of the River Ribble seem to have been >> archived in the Cheshire office, this boundary would include Liverpool in >> its catchment area. I am holding my breath waiting for an answer. >> Good Luck Carolyn >> >> <recordoffice@cheshire.gov.uk> >> >> >> Dave D. >> >>> Hi List, I am really stuck! What do you do when you feel you have >>> exhausted all resources, i.e. IGI, Lanc OPR, findmypast, and >>> ancestry.com? These are the databases that I have access to. I am >>> searching for vital records before 1786 in Liverpool. Families: >>> Isbister/Ivester, McCrum and Appleton. Any suggestions most >>> appreciated. Carolyn in Boston, MA >>> >>> >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dave, I just reread your reply and suggestion to look at the Cheshire records. I discovered recently that my ancestor's will was filed there even though he was a resident of Liverpool. You have explained this to me. I was able to get a copy of the will through the LDs Family History Center, in Salt Lake City. It provided a number of new facts so it was a good find! Carolyn At 11:15 AM 10/17/2009, you wrote: >Carolyn, I'm in the same position as you, unable to progress any further >with my paternal family beyond a 1793 wedding located in a Liverpool parish >register and containing no vital details such as parents names. > I inquired at the Lancashire records office re. a wedding licence and was >told that as a rule the licence would be given to the bride or groom and as >such would not be archived at their location > I am trying a new track and have applied to Cheshire record office for any >sign of a Marriage allegation or Bond between my ggg grand parents. > Any Lancashire Bonds made south of the River Ribble seem to have been >archived in the Cheshire office, this boundary would include Liverpool in >its catchment area. I am holding my breath waiting for an answer. >Good Luck Carolyn > > <recordoffice@cheshire.gov.uk> > > >Dave D. > > > Hi List, I am really stuck! What do you do when you feel you have > > exhausted all resources, i.e. IGI, Lanc OPR, findmypast, and > > ancestry.com? These are the databases that I have access to. I am > > searching for vital records before 1786 in Liverpool. Families: > > Isbister/Ivester, McCrum and Appleton. Any suggestions most > > appreciated. Carolyn in Boston, MA > > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > > > The list admin can be contacted at > > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers, If you can find the time in between decking the halls With boughs of holly, shopping, cooking, writing, wrapping, and all the other seasonal duties, then the Lancs OPC has uploaded the following databases for your perusal: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 16 December 2009 Baptisms 1837 to 1880 from the Church of St Saviour in the Parish of Bamber Bridge Marriages 1871 to 1891 from the church of St Peter in the Parish of Blackburn Baptisms 1874 to 1900 from the church of St Oswald, Knuzden, Blackburn Baptisms 1883 to 1913 from the Church of St George, Bolton Burials 1813 to 1871 from the Parish of Hesketh with Becconsall Marriages 1845 to 1870 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Leigh Burials 1876 to 1890 from the Church of St Cuthbert in the Parish of Lytham Baptisms 1849 to 1900 from the Church of St John the Divine in the Parish of Lytham Baptisms 1780 to 1786 from the Parish of Middleton Burials 1855 to 1866 from the Parish of Prescot Baptisms 1840 to 1842 from St John in the Town of Preston Seasonal Regards, Sally

Tomas Many thanks I will now follow this up Regards Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomas Christie" <tomas_christie@yahoo.co.uk> To: <railton.david@btinternet.com>; <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Court Circular Lesley, The best way to check the Court Circular is by looking at the Times for the dates around the date you have. The Times is available as a searchable item at libraries all over the world, and in some cases it can be accessed from home. Tomas ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message