The Bolton branch of MLFHS (http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/Bolton/) will hold the June meeting on Wednesday June 6th at 7.30pm at Bolton Cricket Club, Green Lane, Great Lever BL3 2JB. All welcome. We are fortunate to have Richard Bond, a retired archivist from Manchester library, giving us the first of two talks about the records, and resources available in Manchester, covering much of the local area, and how to make the most of them. A Help Desk will be available for private research afterward. All enquiries to Barbara Owen Secretary 01204 309515

Morning all, This morning's visit to the Lancs OPC website - http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html - found the following records have been added: 29 May 2012 Baptisms 1848 to 1860 from the Church of St Andrew, in the District of Ancoats, Manchester Marriages 1915 to 1917 from the Church of St Jerome, in the District of Ardwick, Manchester Marriages 1699 to 1709 and 1722 to 1761 from the Church of St Aidan in the Parish of Billinge Burials 1776 to 1800 from St Michael in the Parish of Kirkham Baptisms 1858 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Marriages 1788 and Burials 1804 to 1805 from the Collegiate Church (Cathedral), in the City of Manchester Updated Baptisms from the Church of St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale Orignally extracted from the Bishop's Transcripts with a number of years missing Updated with reference to the Parish Registers allowing many records to be added, especially in the 1600s and in 1833 to 1853 Baptisms 1900 to 1926 and Marriages 1875 to 1877 from St John in the Town of Preston Baptisms 1872 to 1882 from Christ Church, Salford Marriages 1924 to 1931 from St Peter, Swinton Marriages and Burials 1836 to 1841 from St Mary in the Parish of Ulverston Burials 1880 to 1889 from the Church of St Leonard in the Parish of Walton le Dale Marriages 1891 to 1912 from the Church of St Jude the Apostle, West Derby, Liverpool Marriages 1916 to 1921 from St Catharine, Scholes, in the Town of Wigan Marriages 1914 to 1927 from Church of St James, Poolstock, in the Town of Wigan Marriages 1921 to 1938 from the Church of St Michael and All Angels, Swinley in the Town of Wigan Regards, Sally

Wondering if anyone has connections to the MYLES/MILES family of County Louth Ireland and Patrick MILES/MYLES who moved to Liverpool. Patrick MYLES/MILES was one of the sons of Joseph MYLES and Bridget MCMAHON, Joseph was the school teacher at Ballapousta school 1841-1883 Joseph Miles - Principal 1870-1883 Mrs. Brigid E. Miles - Assistant Patrick was one of a large family - John Thomas 15th September 1844 Sponsors Thomas MANLY and Bridget MCLOUGHLIN Joseph 23rd September 1845 Sponsors Matthew Johnston and Cate GRIMES Patrick in 1846 James 10th September 1848 Sponsor Joseph MANLY and Bridget HALPENNY Michael 17th March 1850 Sponsors Thomas GANLY (think this is a mistranscription and is the same Thomas as with John) Rose FITZSIMMONS Philip 27th April 1851 Sponsors Nicholas LYNCH and Mary FRENCH Laurence 23rd January 1853 Pat HUGHES and Margaret DONNELLY Anna Maria 16th April 1854 Matthew COLEMAN and Jane MONAHAN Mary Jane in September 1855 – their last child baptized Patrick is in Liverpool England on the 1871 census newly married to Elizabeth nee BROWN. In 1881 he is a widower – he was only 33. Living with him were children James P, Bridget S, Joseph and Mary Jane. In 1891 Patrick was living in Arkwright St and still a widower, his children were still at home - James P, Bridget S, Joseph and Mary J. This is the census that says Patrick was born in Co Louth, Ireland. His sister, Mary J MILES also born Co Louth was living with the family too. James P MILES (my ancestor) married Teresa DOYLE in Liverpool in 1893 – at St Joseph’s Catholic Church Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ________________________________________Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) ________________________________________ Doyle Teresa Liverpool 8b234 Miles James Liverpool 8b234 Would love to hear from anyone with connections! Dot -- Dot Holden Dover Kent UK There are three things that can never be retrieved, the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity

Your 20 and up you 25. May have mentioned on this group before about looking up a cousin's side of the tree, One Alice SMITH of Liverpool, England. Have a birth cert. 1856 and a death cert. 1939. Cousin worked backwards in the normal way, from the death cert. place of birth Liverpool, England, father John SMITH mother Elizabeth SMITH (no maiden name given). 44 years wasted in looking up SMITHs. Took out sub. with Ancestry.co.uk 18 months back. Doing Census details for my HIBBARD line from his arrival in New Zealand in 1874. 1871 Census my G-Grandfather was living in Westbury, Wiltshire. Household listing contained a Sarah Ann SMITH a servant, b 1857 Coomb Haye, Somerset. 1861 Census has Sarah Ann and her sister Alice living with their Grandparents in Bratton, Westbury, Wilts. Subsequent baptism film records for Bratton, Westbury, Wilts. have the two girls baptised on 28 Oct 1858, mother Elizabeth no father's name, although a father's first name John was crossed out. A small difference with the 2nd name of Sarah being Jane on the baptism record, so may have to purchase birth certificate just to make sure. Les. #17255

Do the pins fall out of the map you have hung on the wall where you track where your ancestors lived? Would you like to be able to print a map showing what steps your ancestors made as they moved around the country? Try this web site, <http://maps.the-hug.net>, which was recommended by a member of the Manchester & Lancashire FHS. According to that member, you can plot the relevant points on the map, enlarge or reduce the map to fit, and print it, all for free. I finally worked out how to enlarge/reduce the map (you have to click on your starting point first), but haven't worked out how to print it yet. Seems a very useful resource. Hope this is helpful to someone. Lynne

New data from our friends at Lancashire BMD: 25 May 2012 Added 7,628 Births for Salford RD comprising: Salford Regent Road (1896-1896); Pendleton (1896-1896); Salford Greengate (1896-1896); Broughton (1895-1896) ~ ~ ~ ~ Cheshire BMD and Yorkshire BMD have also been updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

Morning all, This morning's visit to the OPC website found the following records have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 24 May 2012 Baptisms 1877 to 1911 from Christ Church in the Parish of Aughton Baptisms 1866 to 1905 from Bradshawgate Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, later Castle St Wesleyan, in the Town of Bolton Baptisms 1826 to 1893 from the Parish of Cockerham Baptisms 1689 to 1718 from the Church of St Helen in the Parish of Garstang Baptisms 1882 to 1916 from Delph Hill Wesleyan Methodist Church, Halliwell, Bolton Banns 1824 to 1900 from the Parish of Halton Banns 1902 to 1928 from the Church of St Michael and all Angels in the Parish of Hawkshead The BTs of Baptisms 1568 - 1704 and 1788 - 1812 and Burials 1788 - 1812 have been replaced with transcripts from the Parish Registers Marriages 1926 to 1935 from the Church of St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, in the Parish of Hindley Confirmations 1813, 1821 and 1825 and Burials 1837 to 1843 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Joseph (formerly Bedford RC Chapel), Bedford in the Parish of Leigh Baptisms 1835 from the Collegiate Church (Cathedral), in the City of Manchester Baptisms 1881 to 1902 from the Church of St Ambrose, Pendleton The search engine was updated on 12th May, so it will return information on all records with the exception of those mentioned above. Regards, Sally

Hello Vern, Family history resources on microfiche and microfilm (including Electoral registers) are kept at the the temporary Records Office which is situated in the: Horseshoe Gallery 2nd Floor World Museum William Brown Street Liverpool. Contact details and further information:- http://liverpool.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/archives-local-and-family-history/ And for information regarding the electoral registers and poll books see:- http://www.liverpoolinprint.org.uk/guides/archive/electoral%20registers.pdf Cheers, John Hardy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern Prescott"Subject: [ENG-LIV] Liverpool electoral rolls > I am in Canada but will be in Liverpool briefly in a week or two. Can > someone please tell me where I would be able to look at electoral rolls > for Aigburth. My understanding is that the record office is closed but > that they should be available in some libraries.

Hi Pat Can't help with your query I'm afraid, but you were unsure where Fairy Street was. My husband lived very close to there as a child. It ran steeply down from the junction of St George's Hill and Northumberland Terrace to Netherfield Road North. They were terraced houses which were demolished in the slum clearances of the 1960s. The lower end of Fairy Street was exactly opposite the new flats called 'The Braddocks', now also demolished. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Berry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 1:27 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] CAROS STREET, EVERTON & FAIRY STREET, LIVERPOOL > > HelloWould somebody be able to tell me who was living at 23 Caros Street, > Everton in 1901.Also who was living at 26 & 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool. I > am not sure where Fairy Street was. It may have beenaround Scotland Road > area.I have access to Ancestry.I am looking for JAMES KENNY/KENNEY who was > born in 1839 in Ireland. He was living at 23 Caros Street Everton in > November 1902when he married Mary Ellen Jackson.He was living at 27 Fairy > Street, Liverpool when his son David noted him as next of kin when he went > into the Army in 1900.His daughter Mary Hannah was living at 26 Fairy > Street, Liverpool on 4 June 1900 when she married Richard Bradshaw who was > living at23 Caros Street, Everton.I cannot find JAMES KENNY/KENNEY in > 1901. I have found him in Aughton in 1911. I have found him on all the > other Census's.He was born in Ireland but has used Bilston Staffs, > Liverpool & Shrewsbury, Shropshire as Birth Places?Thanks > Pat > > > > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello AntonyThank you for looking up those addresses for me. No sign of James Kenney though.William Kenney was his son.I am investigating whether Jane Nelson was Jane Kenney but as far as I can see she wasJane Rankin when she married James Nelson.Thanks again Pat --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:40:02 +0100 Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] CAROS STREET, EVERTON & FAIRY STREET, LIVERPOOL 23 Caros Street in the 1901 (RG13 piece 3475 folio 14 page 19): KENNEY, William Head Married M 28 1873 Quay Carter Melling Lancashire 26 Fairy St has two families ... Sarah Kelly (widow and her 2 daughters) , and James Nelson (+ wife & 3 sons) .. RG13 piece 3474 folio 164 page 39 27 Fairy St has John & Mary Asbridge and 7 children .. RG13 piece 3474 folio 162 page 35 Antony Chalfont Research

Hello StephenThanks for your message. The family of James Kenney & Margaret Silcock's son James Kenny and his first wife Bessie were friends of my Dad.We bought their house in Orrell, Bootle via my Dad, after Bessie died.I will send you an email later on today.Regards Pat --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:25:22 +0100 Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] CAROS STREET, EVERTON & FAIRY STREET, LIVERPOOL Hello Pat, The James Kenny you mention sounds very much like my GGGUncle. If so his first wife was Magaret Silcock and yes he didn't seem to know where he was born! Do get in touch off list if you think we are related. Regards, Stephen

Hello SallyThanks for finding those addresses for me-but no sign of James Kenney.William Kenney is his son.I am investigating the Nelson at Fairy Street as James had a daughter Janewho I thought married Isaac Allman on 24 Jan 1887.I will get back to you later.Thanks again Pat --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 07:04:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] CAROS STREET, EVERTON & FAIRY STREET, LIVERPOOL 1901 23 Caros Street, Name: William Kenney Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary E Kenney Gender: Male Where born: Melling, Lancashire, England

Hi all I am in Canada but will be in Liverpool briefly in a week or two. Can someone please tell me where I would be able to look at electoral rolls for Aigburth. My understanding is that the record office is closed but that they should be available in some libraries.

New data from our friends at Lancashire BMD: 14 May 2012 Added 6,220 Births for Burnley RD comprising: Padiham (1926-1957) Added 15,059 Births for Salford RD comprising: Salford Regent Road (1894-1895); Pendleton (1893-1895); Salford Greengate (1894-1895); Broughton (1894-1895) Added 15,007 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Bradford (1908-1917) Added 9,001 Deaths for Oldham RD comprising: Oldham Above Town (1871-1880) Added 4,437 Marriages for Blackpool RD comprising: Blackpool Register Office or Registrar Attended (1965-1974) Added 2,302 Marriages for Hyndburn RD comprising: Accrington, St Paul (1991-2006); Baxenden, St John (1997-2005); Accrington, St Peter (1976-2007); Tunstead, Holy Trinity (1949-1983); Edgeside, St Annes (1952-1988); Altham, St James (1995-2007); Great Harwood, St John (1983-2005); Facit, St John (1930-1936); Clayton, All Saints (1982-2005); Accrington, Christ Church (1978-1988); Rawtenstall, St Paul (1945-1984); Stubbins, St Philip (1939-2004); Haslingden, St Peters (1946-1993) Added 1,560 Marriages for Ribble RD comprising: Waddington, Methodist Chapel (1951-2003); Clitheroe, Moor Lane Methodist (1950-1962); Clitheroe, Waterloo Chapel (1951-1962); Whalley, English Martyrs (1975-2001); Langho, St Leonard (1968-1997); Gisburn, St Mary (1962-1992); Tosside, St Bartholomew (1951-1981); Great Mitton, All Hallows (1955-1985); Waddington, St Helen (2002-2010); Read, St John (1982-1999); Sabden (Heyhouses) St Nicholas (Heyhouses) St Nicholas, registers at Preston (1963-1992); Clitheroe, St Paul (1949-1958); Hurst Green, St John (1969-2004); Ribble Register Office or Registrar Attended (1968-1972) ~ ~ ~ ~ Cheshire BMD and Yorkshire BMD have also been updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

HelloWould somebody be able to tell me who was living at 23 Caros Street, Everton in 1901.Also who was living at 26 & 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool. I am not sure where Fairy Street was. It may have beenaround Scotland Road area.I have access to Ancestry.I am looking for JAMES KENNY/KENNEY who was born in 1839 in Ireland. He was living at 23 Caros Street Everton in November 1902when he married Mary Ellen Jackson.He was living at 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool when his son David noted him as next of kin when he went into the Army in 1900.His daughter Mary Hannah was living at 26 Fairy Street, Liverpool on 4 June 1900 when she married Richard Bradshaw who was living at23 Caros Street, Everton.I cannot find JAMES KENNY/KENNEY in 1901. I have found him in Aughton in 1911. I have found him on all the other Census's.He was born in Ireland but has used Bilston Staffs, Liverpool & Shrewsbury, Shropshire as Birth Places?Thanks Pat

23 Caros Street in the 1901 (RG13 piece 3475 folio 14 page 19): KENNEY, William Head Married M 28 1873 Quay Carter Melling Lancashire KENNEY, Mary E Wife Married F 26 1875 L'pool Lancashire KENNEY, Bessie Daughter Single F 1 1900 L'pool Lancashire KENNEY, William Son Single M 0 1901 L'pool Lancashire 26 Fairy St has two families ... Sarah Kelly (widow and her 2 daughters) , and James Nelson (+ wife & 3 sons) .. RG13 piece 3474 folio 164 page 39 27 Fairy St has John & Mary Asbridge and 7 children .. RG13 piece 3474 folio 162 page 35 Antony Chalfont Research -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Berry Sent: 14 May 2012 01:27 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LIV] CAROS STREET, EVERTON & FAIRY STREET, LIVERPOOL HelloWould somebody be able to tell me who was living at 23 Caros Street, Everton in 1901.Also who was living at 26 & 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool. I am not sure where Fairy Street was. It may have beenaround Scotland Road area.I have access to Ancestry.I am looking for JAMES KENNY/KENNEY who was born in 1839 in Ireland. He was living at 23 Caros Street Everton in November 1902when he married Mary Ellen Jackson.He was living at 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool when his son David noted him as next of kin when he went into the Army in 1900.His daughter Mary Hannah was living at 26 Fairy Street, Liverpool on 4 June 1900 when she married Richard Bradshaw who was living at23 Caros Street, Everton.I cannot find JAMES KENNY/KENNEY in 1901. I have found him in Aughton in 1911. I have found him on all the other Census's.He was born in Ireland but has used Bilston Staffs, Liverpool & Shrewsbury, Shropshire as Birth Places?Thanks Pat ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Pat, The James Kenny you mention sounds very much like my GGGUncle. If so his first wife was Magaret Silcock and yes he didn't seem to know where he was born!  Do get in touch off list if you think we are related. Regards, Stephen ________________________________ From: Pat Berry <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012, 1:27 Subject: [ENG-LIV] CAROS STREET, EVERTON & FAIRY STREET, LIVERPOOL HelloWould somebody be able to tell me who was living at 23 Caros Street, Everton in 1901.Also who was living at 26 & 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool. I am not sure where Fairy Street was. It may have beenaround Scotland Road area.I have access to Ancestry.I am looking for JAMES KENNY/KENNEY who was born in 1839 in Ireland. He was living at 23 Caros Street Everton in November 1902when he married Mary Ellen Jackson.He was living at 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool when his son David noted him as next of kin when he went into the Army in 1900.His daughter Mary Hannah was living at 26 Fairy Street, Liverpool on 4 June 1900 when she married Richard Bradshaw who was living at23 Caros Street, Everton.I cannot find JAMES KENNY/KENNEY in 1901. I have found him in Aughton in 1911. I have found him on all the other Census's.He was born in Ireland but has used Bilston Staffs, Liverpool & Shrewsbury, Shropshire as Birth Places?Thanks Pat                           ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected]  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day Frederick You're right, the key to the Crew Agreements is knowing the name of the ship and year of the voyage. I was extremely fortunate some twenty or so years ago. I had written to the Archivist in Newcastle asking for information from the Electoral Rolls, figuring that if Asmus Kunde was listed, he'd been naturalised. I found out that you can be on the Electoral Roll for Local Elections without being naturalised, so this was no help. A couple of days after he'd replied to my enquiry, the archivist was searching the Admissions Register for the Marine School in South Shields for someone else and because Asmus Kunde is a non-English name, it stuck out when he came across it in the Register. As a consequence he wrote a second letter (which actually arrived first!). The Admissions Register was formatted like a Crew Agreement, and from this I had the ship's name and year that I needed. Two sources which from your email you don't appear to have tried is the "General Register of Shipping and Seaman" in Cardiff, and the records held in Southampton. < http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Merchant_Seaman_and_Shipping_Records > Also, what about the Seamen's Union? Have you tried through them? The Union has been amalgamated and is now part of another one (not sure which one though). The LDS have not had access to microfilm the majority of Hamburg's records. In Germany, the majority of Lutheran Church records are in Church archives NOT in government ones. The Lutheran church has realised that they can generate some income by retaining control over their own records. The destruction of records which you mention, I think refers not to Hamburg, but to Bremen where the shipping lists in particular were a major loss. However, the RAF did bomb my Great Great Aunt's pub at Neueburg 19, Altona! Another set of Hamburg records which may help you get established on Hamburg records are the City Directories (Adreßbücher) which the LDS have on microfilm from 1712-1949. < https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C0%2C0&titleno=999033&disp=Adre%C3%9Fb%C3%BCcher+der+St++ > I have also used the services of Andrea Bentscheider of "Beyond History" in Hamburg who is a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists. (I'd try the directories first before paying for professional help). < http://www.beyond-history.com/en/ > By the way, I've been a non-church member volunteer at the LDS Dianella FHL since '91. My current shift is Saturday afternoons, so if you want a change from all the drifting sand in Mindarie ..... :-} It's in Wordsworth Ave, opposite the Inglewood swimming pool on Alexander Drive. Cheers David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Frederick Englebert To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:10 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Hamburg ancestor Hi David at Maylands, Frederick mailling from Mindarie! Many thanks for your mail and the information. My problem, one of them, is that my man left no information in the form of documents as to his sailng days, I have only his marriage and death certificates that show that he was a ships cook/steward. I have no knowledge of any ships that he may have sailed on and the records in Newfoundland I believe are held in cardboard boxes labelled with ships names! The people there obviously cannot undertake any searches without a ships name! I have a dvd of a Crew List Index Project, which contains 269000 records of sailors, their ships and journeys they undertook from Liverpool for the years 1863 (Emil would probably have been in Liverpool about that time) to 1913, (again he might have still been sailing as late as that), but I can find no records for Emil. I know he changed his name to Engelbert but I also can find no records for that name on the dvd, and I followed up a suggestion from an old Aunt that he changed his name to Davis! when he was sailing, but again, of the hundreds of! Davis's on the list none of their information matches that for my man. I think Emil must have built up a log over the years of signing on (he must have done that surely) and that log is probably in Newfoundland in one of the boxes I mentioned. As to Emil's precise birth place, I have trawled through all of the LDS archives for all of Germany, and although there are many many Engelbrecht records I have found none for my man or his father Georg. Hamburg, it seems, had most of their records destroyed by those Britischer bombers in WW2 (and your man helped form the RAF!) I am about to have some film sent over from the LDS of Hamburg church records that may have survived and I will also request a copy of the Hamburg police files you mentioned. Other than that, I think I am stimied Again thanks for your mail Best Regards Frederick

1901 23 Caros Street, Name: William Kenney Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary E Kenney Gender: Male Where born: Melling, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Everton Street Address: Occupation: William Kenney 28 Quay Carter Mary E Kenney 26 Bessie Kenney 1 William Kenney 5 Months 26 & 27 Fairy Street families Name: John Asbridge Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Asbridge Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Everton (No 26) John Asbridge 40 Boot Maker Mary Asbridge 39 Elizabeth Asbridge 18 Mary Asbridge 13 Annice Asbridge 11 Ada Asbridge 8 John Asbridge 3 Eveline Asbridge 6 Violet May Asbridge 1 Month Name: James Nelson Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Nelson Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Everton (no 27) James Nelson 50 Railway Labourer Jane Nelson 50 William J Nelson 18 Thomas C Nelson 12 Alfred G Nelson 7 however at no 24 Name: Thomas Kenny Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Kenny Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Lancashire * The Lamble entries are shown as Step children Thomas Kenny 40 Fireman Gas Works Elizabeth Kenny 37 James Lamble 13 John Lamble 11 Alfred Lamble 9 Catherine Lamble 7 Elizabeth Kenny 6 Thomas Kenny 4 Winifred Kenny 11 Months Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:27:01 +1000 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] CAROS STREET, EVERTON & FAIRY STREET, LIVERPOOL > > > HelloWould somebody be able to tell me who was living at 23 Caros Street, Everton in 1901.Also who was living at 26 & 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool. I am not sure where Fairy Street was. It may have beenaround Scotland Road area.I have access to Ancestry.I am looking for JAMES KENNY/KENNEY who was born in 1839 in Ireland. He was living at 23 Caros Street Everton in November 1902when he married Mary Ellen Jackson.He was living at 27 Fairy Street, Liverpool when his son David noted him as next of kin when he went into the Army in 1900.His daughter Mary Hannah was living at 26 Fairy Street, Liverpool on 4 June 1900 when she married Richard Bradshaw who was living at23 Caros Street, Everton.I cannot find JAMES KENNY/KENNEY in 1901. I have found him in Aughton in 1911. I have found him on all the other Census's.He was born in Ireland but has used Bilston Staffs, Liverpool & Shrewsbury, Shropshire as Birth Places?Thanks

Hi David at Maylands, Frederick mailling from Mindarie! Many thanks for your mail and the information. My problem, one of them, is that my man left no information in the form of documents as to his sailng days, I have only his marriage and death certificates that show that he was a ships cook/steward. I have no knowledge of any ships that he may have sailed on and the records in Newfoundland I believe are held in cardboard boxes labelled with ships names! The people there obviously cannot undertake any searches without a ships name! I have a dvd of a Crew List Index Project, which contains 269000 records of sailors, their ships and journeys they undertook from Liverpool for the years 1863 (Emil would probably have been in Liverpool about that time) to 1913, (again he might have still been sailing as late as that), but I can find no records for Emil. I know he changed his name to Engelbert but I also can find no records for that name on the dvd, and I followed up a suggestion from an old Aunt that he changed his name to Davis! when he was sailing, but again, of the hundreds of Davis's on the list none of their information matches that for my man. I think Emil must have built up a log over the years of signing on (he must have done that surely) and that log is probably in Newfoundland in one of the boxes I mentioned. As to Emil's precise birth place, I have trawled through all of the LDS archives for all of Germany, and although there are many many Engelbrecht records I have found none for my man or his father Georg. Hamburg, it seems, had most of their records destroyed by those Britischer bombers in WW2 (and your man helped form the RAF!) I am about to have some film sent over from the LDS of Hamburg church records that may have survived and I will also request a copy of the Hamburg police files you mentioned. Other than that, I think I am stimied Again thanks for your mail Best Regards Frederick