The July meeting of the Bolton branch of MLFHS (http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/Bolton/) will be held Wednesday 4th at 7.30pm. The venue as usual will be Bolton Cricket Club, Green Lane Farnworth, BL1 2JB. Our speaker is Richard Bond the retired archivist from Manchester library and record office, who will be giving the second half of his talk about resources for family history research, this time looking at online facilities. All welcome and as usual a help desk will be available afterwards for individual assistance in private research. Any further enquiries please contact Barbara Owen, secretary, on 01204 309515

There's a Charles Henry Lewis, marrying someone else in Everton in 1862. He's a mariner, which I suppose could be inflated into cotton broker (with a lot of imagination!) I'm sure you can invent possible scenarios to fit the possibility that this might be him, just as well as I can - and it may well not be. But I thought I'd offer it anyway, just in case it's of use: Marriage: 9 Sep 1862 St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England Charles Henry Lewis - 34 years Mariner Bachelor of Everton Hannah Woolliscroft - full age Spinster of Everton Groom's Father: Henry Andrew Lewis, deceased, Pilot Bride's Father: Thomas Woolliscroft, Coal Agent Witness: John Percival; Mary Woolliscroft Married by banns by: C. E. Titterton Curate Register: Marriages 1859 – 1863, Page 195, Entry 389 Source: LDS Film 1647986 Maria On 27/06/2012 18:59, David Railton wrote: > Does anyone know anything of a Liverpool cotton broker named Henry Charles > LEWIS? > > The 1881 census shows Mary Fletcher CLARKE born Runcorn in 1847 living in > Everton with the surname LEWIS and with three children of that name. She is > described as married but there is no husband with her. The 1891 census shows > her as a widow. Her death certificate and the marriage certificate of her > daughter gives her husband as Henry Charles LEWIS deceased cotton broker. > > I can find no record of a marriage of Mary and Henry or of a record of his > death or any record of him on a census. This leads me to suppose that he may > have been invented by Mary. The problem with this conclusion is that Mary > did not come from a family that had any wealth but she never appeared to > need to do any work and was described as of independent means so she had > support from someone. > > In similar cases I have come to the conclusion that the method of achieving > 'independent means' may have been less than honourable but there are always > other circumstances to support this. In this case there isn't. > > Does anyone know of a Henry Charles LEWIS? > > David > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Actually a Welsh speaker would pronounce it *Tre* /(to rhyme with hen) -/vor /(to rhyme with knot),/ with a proper 't' sound at the beginning, both the rrrr's rolled/trilled and the emphasis on the first syllable. (What I mean by a proper 't' sound is that in English we often pronounc the 't' in a 'tr' combination like English 'ch' - so, for example, 'train' is often pronounced 'chrain'. But in Welsh it's a proper 't', so you have to make the 'tr' sound right on the tip of your tongue.) 'Trevor' is an Anglicised spelling of the Welsh place-name 'Trefor', which is pronounced as described above. There's no 'v' in Welsh - single 'f' gives a 'v' sound, double 'ff' gives the sound we represent in English as 'f'. I know of two villages called Trefor/Trevor, both in North Wales, and there may well be others. The two I know of are 1) just to the east of Llangollen, 2) on the North Coast of the Lly^n peninsula, round about where the peninsula starts. Hope this is helpful, Hwyl! Maria (in North Wales) On 30/06/2012 08:27, :- wrote: > Hi > > > I think a Welsh speaker would have pronounces it "Tree - f - orrrr" > > > Dr Tam > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janice Edwards <[email protected]> > To: eng-liverpool <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 1:57 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] The surname of "Trevor" > > > Can someone in Liverpool on this list give me a pronunciation of the above > surname? > > Would it appear reasonable that when going through Customs it might have > been transposed into "Taylor" from its pronunciation by a person of Welsh > heritage and a US customs agent writing what they thought they heard? > > Thanks. > Janice > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all, This morning's visit to the OPC website found the following records added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 29 June 2012 Marriages 1867 to 1897 and Burials 1897 to 1928 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Irlam Baptisms and Burials 1749 to 1786 from the Church of St Mary in the Parish of Lancaster Baptisms 1840 to 1874 and Burials 1813 to 1848 from the Parish of Longridge Banns 1849 to 1906 from the Church of St Simon and St Jude in the City of Manchester Burials 1726 to 1748 from the Church of St Mary, Oldham Baptisms 1870 to 1885 from Emmanuel in the Town of Preston Burials 1896 to 1914 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, in the Parish of Radcliffe Burials 1893 to 1896 from the Roman Catholic Church of All Souls and St John Vianney, Weaste 28 June 2012 Burials 1862 to 1908 from Bacup Cemetery Burials 1902 to 1967 from Haslingden Cemetery, Haslingden in Rossendale Baptisms 1856 to 1862 from the Church of St George, in the District of Hulme, Manchester Marriages 1784 and Burials 1803 from the Collegiate Church (Cathedral), in the City of Manchester Baptisms 1813 to 1888 from the Church of St Mary in the City of Manchester Regards, Sally

Hello,   I'd just like to offer an FYI that my ancestor was John LEWIS, b~1837 Liverpool.    He had an older brother, William LEWIS,  and 2 younger brothers, one was Henry LEWIS, b1843.      Their parents were Richard LEWIS, b1803 Shropshire, and Elizabeth TROUGHTON, b1806 Cheshire, who married in Liverpool in 1825.    I've been posting about this extended family for maybe 10 yrs.    This is one of my old postings which mentions them in 1851:   http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/eng-liverpool/2008-02/1201872159   What I found out later is that the couple had 2 daughters, first, and then, I think, 5 sons.    (I think one son died young.)     I'll try to find my other old postings which offered later census records for the married sons.     This posting mentions the family of Henry LEWIS:   http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/eng-liverpool/2008-06/1214829941   The brothers either were clerks in a Solicitor's office or in an office on the Docks.   Betty            (near Lowell, MA, USA)     * This spring I heard from a "distant cousin" I had forgotten about.    He is in England and is descended from the above William LEWIS.      When first married,  John and William lived beside each other in Liverpool.     (on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.;   now an Admin for 9 Lists and 4 Boards)

Treh vor . Accent on the first syllable, long o in vor. Of course it could sound like Taylor, but what is the context? Transposed to what document?U.S. Customs, like Customs in most countries, traffic in paper. The names on the paper are spelled per the documents submitted. (visas, passports, ships manifests) Nether Customs nor Immigration change the name due to lack of knowledge about the language. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Janice Edwards" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [ENG-LIV] The surname of "Trevor" Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:56:31 -0400 Can someone in Liverpool on this list give me a pronunciation of the above surname? Would it appear reasonable that when going through Customs it might have been transposed into "Taylor" from its pronunciation by a person of Welsh heritage and a US customs agent writing what they thought they heard? Thanks. Janice ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4fee8cd914c86cd96a11st54duc

Hi I think a Welsh speaker would have pronounces it "Tree - f - orrrr" Dr Tam -----Original Message----- From: Janice Edwards <[email protected]> To: eng-liverpool <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 1:57 Subject: [ENG-LIV] The surname of "Trevor" Can someone in Liverpool on this list give me a pronunciation of the above surname? Would it appear reasonable that when going through Customs it might have been transposed into "Taylor" from its pronunciation by a person of Welsh heritage and a US customs agent writing what they thought they heard? Thanks. Janice ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone in Liverpool on this list give me a pronunciation of the above surname? Would it appear reasonable that when going through Customs it might have been transposed into "Taylor" from its pronunciation by a person of Welsh heritage and a US customs agent writing what they thought they heard? Thanks. Janice

Sally, Thank you for your interest in my query. It was the Ormskirk certificate I obtained. It showed the marriage of Sara to Dr John Drummond of 2, Radnor Place, Liverpool. From this information I was able to find Sara and husband and children on the 1901 census. Sara and Dr John then divorced in 1898. I have had no success so far in trying to find the children. The obvious one to look for is Sara Mabel Clarke but there is no record. I have tried all alternatives: Sarah Mabel, Sara, Sarah, Mabel and also looked for a Sara Mabel with any surname all to no avail. There are possibles for all 3 children but I would have to spend a small fortune on certificates to try to find them. By the way, it is Mary who is shown as age 7 months on the 1881, not Mabel. One clue as to Sara Mabel's birth comes from the record of her death. It is not shown on her death certificate but the GRO index record on Ancestry shows that she was born on 30th March 1873. Unfortunately I don't think this is right as the 1881 census shows her as age 8, 1891 as 18 etc. If her birthday was on 30th March she would have been 9, 19 etc. I have seen the entry for Sara Mabel Lewis on One World Tree and as you say it has her mother's family wrong. Unfortunately there is no contact information for whoever submitted the information. Regards David -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sally roberts Sent: 28 June 2012 23:53 To: englanliverpool Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Henry Charles LEWIS - Cotton Broker Hi David, Well this one is a bit of conundrum, isn't it? Which marriage certificate did you purchase? Was it Sara Mabel Lewis's marriage in 1900 in Ormskirk? As the children's births can't be found on the civil registration index, I think it's reasonable to assume that they weren't born under the surname of Lewis. The children, Harry, Mary V and Mabel (which I'm supposing is wrongly entered on the 1881 census as being 7 months of age, and should be Sara Mabel born abt 1873/4) could be hers born outside of wedlock under her maiden name. Or, they could be born to a previous marriage of Mary Fletcher Clarke, with the husband dying/leaving the marriage shortly after the birth of their last child, and Mary "marries" again to Henry Lewis, and the children take his name. To be honest, I would concentrate on what you know to exist, rather than trying to find something you don't, ie the births of the children should be a priority. Ancestry has an entry for a Sara Mabel Lewis on the one world tree section, but although they have the marriage taking place to John Connell Drummond in 1900, it states London and not Ormskirk, and the parents are shown to be a John Lewis and a Moira MacFarland. It may be worth making contact with the person who has submitted the information to find out where they got their details from - you might be able to save them from barking up the wrong tree with the research you have :o) Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:59:57 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Henry Charles LEWIS - Cotton Broker > > Does anyone know anything of a Liverpool cotton broker named Henry > Charles LEWIS? > > The 1881 census shows Mary Fletcher CLARKE born Runcorn in 1847 living > in Everton with the surname LEWIS and with three children of that > name. She is described as married but there is no husband with her. > The 1891 census shows her as a widow. Her death certificate and the > marriage certificate of her daughter gives her husband as Henry Charles LEWIS deceased cotton broker. > > I can find no record of a marriage of Mary and Henry or of a record of > his death or any record of him on a census. This leads me to suppose > that he may have been invented by Mary. The problem with this > conclusion is that Mary did not come from a family that had any wealth > but she never appeared to need to do any work and was described as of > independent means so she had support from someone. > > In similar cases I have come to the conclusion that the method of > achieving 'independent means' may have been less than honourable but > there are always other circumstances to support this. In this case there isn't. > > Does anyone know of a Henry Charles LEWIS? > > David > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Apologies for the confusion, it was late at night by the time I was looking around :o) Have you checked any military information for Harry? Also, I know you said that Mary Clarke didn't come from a wealthy family, but I would have thought that her father being a HM Customs Officer (as per baptismal entry) meant that they would have had a tad more financial stability than most. Unless he died when she was young, of course. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ENG-LIV] Henry Charles LEWIS - Cotton Broker > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:07:08 +0100 > > Sally, > > Thank you for your interest in my query. > > It was the Ormskirk certificate I obtained. It showed the marriage of Sara > to Dr John Drummond of 2, Radnor Place, Liverpool. From this information I > was able to find Sara and husband and children on the 1901 census. Sara and > Dr John then divorced in 1898. > > I have had no success so far in trying to find the children. The obvious one > to look for is Sara Mabel Clarke but there is no record. I have tried all > alternatives: Sarah Mabel, Sara, Sarah, Mabel and also looked for a Sara > Mabel with any surname all to no avail. There are possibles for all 3 > children but I would have to spend a small fortune on certificates to try to > find them. > > By the way, it is Mary who is shown as age 7 months on the 1881, not Mabel. > One clue as to Sara Mabel's birth comes from the record of her death. It is > not shown on her death certificate but the GRO index record on Ancestry > shows that she was born on 30th March 1873. Unfortunately I don't think this > is right as the 1881 census shows her as age 8, 1891 as 18 etc. If her > birthday was on 30th March she would have been 9, 19 etc. > > I have seen the entry for Sara Mabel Lewis on One World Tree and as you say > it has her mother's family wrong. Unfortunately there is no contact > information for whoever submitted the information. > > Regards > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sally roberts > Sent: 28 June 2012 23:53 > To: englanliverpool > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Henry Charles LEWIS - Cotton Broker > > > Hi David, > > Well this one is a bit of conundrum, isn't it? > > Which marriage certificate did you purchase? Was it Sara Mabel Lewis's > marriage in 1900 in Ormskirk? > > As the children's births can't be found on the civil registration index, I > think it's reasonable to assume that they weren't born under the surname of > Lewis. > > The children, Harry, Mary V and Mabel (which I'm supposing is wrongly > entered on the 1881 census as being 7 months of age, and should be Sara > Mabel born abt 1873/4) could be hers born outside of wedlock under her > maiden name. Or, they could be born to a previous marriage of Mary Fletcher > Clarke, with the husband dying/leaving the marriage shortly after the birth > of their last child, and Mary "marries" again to Henry Lewis, and the > children take his name. > > To be honest, I would concentrate on what you know to exist, rather than > trying to find something you don't, ie the births of the children should be > a priority. > > Ancestry has an entry for a Sara Mabel Lewis on the one world tree section, > but although they have the marriage taking place to John Connell Drummond in > 1900, it states London and not Ormskirk, and the parents are shown to be a > John Lewis and a Moira MacFarland. It may be worth making contact with the > person who has submitted the information to find out where they got their > details from - you might be able to save them from barking up the wrong tree > with the research you have :o) > > Regards, > Sally > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:59:57 +0100 > > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Henry Charles LEWIS - Cotton Broker > > > > Does anyone know anything of a Liverpool cotton broker named Henry > > Charles LEWIS? > > > > The 1881 census shows Mary Fletcher CLARKE born Runcorn in 1847 living > > in Everton with the surname LEWIS and with three children of that > > name. She is described as married but there is no husband with her. > > The 1891 census shows her as a widow. Her death certificate and the > > marriage certificate of her daughter gives her husband as Henry Charles > LEWIS deceased cotton broker. > > > > I can find no record of a marriage of Mary and Henry or of a record of > > his death or any record of him on a census. This leads me to suppose > > that he may have been invented by Mary. The problem with this > > conclusion is that Mary did not come from a family that had any wealth > > but she never appeared to need to do any work and was described as of > > independent means so she had support from someone. > > > > In similar cases I have come to the conclusion that the method of > > achieving 'independent means' may have been less than honourable but > > there are always other circumstances to support this. In this case there > isn't. > > > > Does anyone know of a Henry Charles LEWIS? > > > > David > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > > > The list admin can be contacted at > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi David, Well this one is a bit of conundrum, isn't it? Which marriage certificate did you purchase? Was it Sara Mabel Lewis's marriage in 1900 in Ormskirk? As the children's births can't be found on the civil registration index, I think it's reasonable to assume that they weren't born under the surname of Lewis. The children, Harry, Mary V and Mabel (which I'm supposing is wrongly entered on the 1881 census as being 7 months of age, and should be Sara Mabel born abt 1873/4) could be hers born outside of wedlock under her maiden name. Or, they could be born to a previous marriage of Mary Fletcher Clarke, with the husband dying/leaving the marriage shortly after the birth of their last child, and Mary "marries" again to Henry Lewis, and the children take his name. To be honest, I would concentrate on what you know to exist, rather than trying to find something you don't, ie the births of the children should be a priority. Ancestry has an entry for a Sara Mabel Lewis on the one world tree section, but although they have the marriage taking place to John Connell Drummond in 1900, it states London and not Ormskirk, and the parents are shown to be a John Lewis and a Moira MacFarland. It may be worth making contact with the person who has submitted the information to find out where they got their details from - you might be able to save them from barking up the wrong tree with the research you have :o) Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:59:57 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Henry Charles LEWIS - Cotton Broker > > Does anyone know anything of a Liverpool cotton broker named Henry Charles > LEWIS? > > The 1881 census shows Mary Fletcher CLARKE born Runcorn in 1847 living in > Everton with the surname LEWIS and with three children of that name. She is > described as married but there is no husband with her. The 1891 census shows > her as a widow. Her death certificate and the marriage certificate of her > daughter gives her husband as Henry Charles LEWIS deceased cotton broker. > > I can find no record of a marriage of Mary and Henry or of a record of his > death or any record of him on a census. This leads me to suppose that he may > have been invented by Mary. The problem with this conclusion is that Mary > did not come from a family that had any wealth but she never appeared to > need to do any work and was described as of independent means so she had > support from someone. > > In similar cases I have come to the conclusion that the method of achieving > 'independent means' may have been less than honourable but there are always > other circumstances to support this. In this case there isn't. > > Does anyone know of a Henry Charles LEWIS? > > David > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

New data from our friends at Lancashire BMD: Added 5,829 Deaths for Trafford RD comprising: Stretford (1934-1944) ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

Hello Listers, This morning's visit to the OPC website found the following records have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 27 June 2012 Baptisms 1696 to 1840, Marriages 1761 to 1787 and Burials 1699 to 1714 and 1727 to 1760 from the Church of St Aidan in the Parish of Billinge Baptisms for the years 1756 to 1840 extracted from the Bishop's Transcripts are replaced by the records from the Parish Register Burials for the years 1756 to 1760 extracted from the Bishop's Transcripts are replaced by the records from the Parish Register Baptisms 1741 to 1841, Marriages 1742 to 1756 and 1839 to 2011 and Burials 1742 to 1841 and 1904 to 2012 from the Church of St John the Divine, Holme in Cliviger Baptisms and Burials for the years 1792 to 1841 extracted from the Bishop's Transcripts are replaced by the records from the Parish Register with a number of new entries added Baptisms 1993 to 2007, Confirmations 1876 to 1930 and Graves from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Worsthorne Regards, Sally

Does anyone know anything of a Liverpool cotton broker named Henry Charles LEWIS? The 1881 census shows Mary Fletcher CLARKE born Runcorn in 1847 living in Everton with the surname LEWIS and with three children of that name. She is described as married but there is no husband with her. The 1891 census shows her as a widow. Her death certificate and the marriage certificate of her daughter gives her husband as Henry Charles LEWIS deceased cotton broker. I can find no record of a marriage of Mary and Henry or of a record of his death or any record of him on a census. This leads me to suppose that he may have been invented by Mary. The problem with this conclusion is that Mary did not come from a family that had any wealth but she never appeared to need to do any work and was described as of independent means so she had support from someone. In similar cases I have come to the conclusion that the method of achieving 'independent means' may have been less than honourable but there are always other circumstances to support this. In this case there isn't. Does anyone know of a Henry Charles LEWIS? David

Morning all, Today's visit to the OPC website found the following databases have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 26 June 2012 Baptisms and Marriages 1638 to 1750 and Burials 1638 to 1749 from the Parish of Aldingham Marriages 1915 to 1927 from the Church of St Bartholomew, Great Lever Baptisms 1896 to 1957 from Chorley Old Road Congregational Church, Halliwell, Bolton Marriages 1935 to 1946 from the Church of St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, in the Parish of Hindley Baptisms 1884 to 1898 from St Paul Mission Church, Eccleston, in the Parish of St Helens Marriages 1865 to 1876 from St Thomas, Eccleston, in the Parish of St Helens Baptisms 1778 to 2011, Marriages 1854 to 1864, and Burials 1818 to 1876 and 1891 to 1894 from Tockholes United Reformed Church (formerly the old Independent Chapel and Bethesda Chapel), Tockholes Regards, Sally

G'day anonymous The OPR including Baptisms were microfilmed by the LDS over 20 years ago. They can be ordered into your LDS family history library for a nominal fee to cover postage and packing. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: hobby.horse Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:40 PM Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the actual parish register for a baptism in 1879 at St Mary's Kikdale please

Hello all, The following link is advertised in a story in the Daily Mail website (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2164074/Britain-Above-Thousands-historic-aerial-photographs-online-time-today.html ) - regarding a collection of aerial photographs being assembled from the skies of Great Britain. Here's the link to the actual website - http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/galleries The photographs contained on it range from 1919 - 1953, cover many counties and also includes a gallery where they are requesting help on identifying where/what some of the pictures are of. This is also an ongoing project which will be updated on a regular basis. HOWEVER. Parts of the site seem to be creaking, either due to too many people trying to access the shots or broken links, so it is a tad frustrating to use. But it does look to be a good resource for researchers, and may be something worth bookmarking for future reference. Regards, Sally

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the actual parish register for a baptism in 1879 at St Mary's Kikdale please

Edwina The only time a Certified copy a certificate is needed is when it is being used in a court or for some other legal purpose. For general genealogical purposes, a photocopy of a BDM certificate is fine. Also, the LDS are now digitising their microfilm collection and putting scans of original records on their website for free. Are you suggesting that to validate our genealogies we should then get our copies of those scans certified as true copies by a JP etc? regards David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Edwina Dorset To: 'Pat Stanistreet' ; [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Petition re cost of BMD certificates (England & Wales) Hello Pat To the individual historian in each family, I ask you to think about this... 'Uncertified' Copies of Certificates??? I agree that the cost of Certificates for Research is very high and costly, but are we losing sight here that we have to VALIDATE our research, and be able to PROVE that the person we have found through research is who we think they are!!! Edwina