I have found the burial details of my 4xgrandmother, Ellen Webster, in the Liverpool, Lancashire records on Ancestry on 23 Jan 1841 St John's Church, Liverpool. I have also found, on FreeBMD, what I believe is her husband's death - Timothy WEBSTER Apr-Jun 1845. However the Ancestry burial records for St John's only go up to 1843. I know that St John's closed for burials in 1865 so why would they not have filmed and transcribed those latter years I wonder? Can anyone tell me if these are available anywhere else please? If not, if anyone happens per chance to be going to the Liverpool records office and would have time to look up this burial for me (FreeBMD Ref: Liverpool Vol 20, Page 30), I would be extremely grateful . I am in a bit of a muddle with Timothy (born 1763) as there is a Timothy Webster age 73 living in Cow Lane, Liverpool in the 1841 census (who fits - Class: HO107; Piece: 556; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Liverpool; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 25; Folio: 18; Page: 29; - don't know if it is relevant but his father, Thomas Webster was a Cow keeper in 1763) but he is living with Margaret Webster age 77 (and she comes first so appears to be head of household). His wife Ellen (if that is the correct one and I believe it is) as I said above, died Jan 1841. Did Timothy re-marry very quickly (!), could this be a spinster sister of his or have I got something wrong here? I haven't found any other Timothy Websters in that area. Carolyn

I would normally expect that to indicate a previous marriage - but I think it is one where you need to get a copy of the certificate to see if that explains it. Antony -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Railton Sent: 22 August 2012 15:19 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LIV] DRUMMOND or SHERLOCK - marriage name confusion The GRO Index shows the marriage of William A Cockburn to Elsie H Drummond in DQ 1942 at Liverpool South, ref: 8b 210. On both Ancestry and FreeBMD the alternative surname of Sherlock is given for Elsie. Elsie was born at West Derby in 1910, the daughter of John Drummond and Elsie Hay. I cannot find any previous marriage of daughter Elsie to a Mr Sherlock. I also cannot see any reason why she should have been adopted. Elsie's father died in 1926 and he named his wife as executor leaving her reasonably well provided for. I also cannot find any record of a remarriage of Elsie's mother to a Mr Sherlock. All I can think of is that the parents may have abandoned Elsie for adoption as a child. Does anyone have any ideas? David ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Genealogy is so much fun! I've had ancestor's give false names on both birth certificates for their children (in regards to the father) and marriage certificates so be sure to get as much evidence as possible to prove whether she's a Drummond or a Sherlock. Ironic last name in this case too! Sandra > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:28:54 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] DRUMMOND or SHERLOCK - marriage name confusion > > It appears that Elsie'a birth was registered in the December quarter of > 1910. But the 1911 census gives her she as 1. I wonder if she was > registered late and was illegitimate and found out later that her true > father's name was Sherlock. She might then have given Sherlock as her > fathers name when she was married. Her name was Drummond since she was > registered as such. In this case both names would appear in the GRO index > I think. > > First get the marriage certificate to see what it says. See if it gives > her name as Drummond and her father's name as Sherlock or the other way > round. > > Hope this helps > > Vern > On Aug 22, 2012 12:35 PM, "Antony Marr" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I would normally expect that to indicate a previous marriage - but I think > > it is one where you need to get a copy of the certificate to see if that > > explains it. > > > > Antony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Railton > > Sent: 22 August 2012 15:19 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ENG-LIV] DRUMMOND or SHERLOCK - marriage name confusion > > > > The GRO Index shows the marriage of William A Cockburn to Elsie H Drummond > > in DQ 1942 at Liverpool South, ref: 8b 210. > > > > On both Ancestry and FreeBMD the alternative surname of Sherlock is given > > for Elsie. Elsie was born at West Derby in 1910, the daughter of John > > Drummond and Elsie Hay. I cannot find any previous marriage of daughter > > Elsie to a Mr Sherlock. I also cannot see any reason why she should have > > been adopted. Elsie's father died in 1926 and he named his wife as executor > > leaving her reasonably well provided for. I also cannot find any record of > > a > > remarriage of Elsie's mother to a Mr Sherlock. > > > > All I can think of is that the parents may have abandoned Elsie for > > adoption > > as a child. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > David > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > > > The list admin can be contacted at > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > > > The list admin can be contacted at > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It appears that Elsie'a birth was registered in the December quarter of 1910. But the 1911 census gives her she as 1. I wonder if she was registered late and was illegitimate and found out later that her true father's name was Sherlock. She might then have given Sherlock as her fathers name when she was married. Her name was Drummond since she was registered as such. In this case both names would appear in the GRO index I think. First get the marriage certificate to see what it says. See if it gives her name as Drummond and her father's name as Sherlock or the other way round. Hope this helps Vern On Aug 22, 2012 12:35 PM, "Antony Marr" <[email protected]> wrote: > I would normally expect that to indicate a previous marriage - but I think > it is one where you need to get a copy of the certificate to see if that > explains it. > > Antony > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Railton > Sent: 22 August 2012 15:19 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-LIV] DRUMMOND or SHERLOCK - marriage name confusion > > The GRO Index shows the marriage of William A Cockburn to Elsie H Drummond > in DQ 1942 at Liverpool South, ref: 8b 210. > > On both Ancestry and FreeBMD the alternative surname of Sherlock is given > for Elsie. Elsie was born at West Derby in 1910, the daughter of John > Drummond and Elsie Hay. I cannot find any previous marriage of daughter > Elsie to a Mr Sherlock. I also cannot see any reason why she should have > been adopted. Elsie's father died in 1926 and he named his wife as executor > leaving her reasonably well provided for. I also cannot find any record of > a > remarriage of Elsie's mother to a Mr Sherlock. > > All I can think of is that the parents may have abandoned Elsie for > adoption > as a child. > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > David > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The GRO Index shows the marriage of William A Cockburn to Elsie H Drummond in DQ 1942 at Liverpool South, ref: 8b 210. On both Ancestry and FreeBMD the alternative surname of Sherlock is given for Elsie. Elsie was born at West Derby in 1910, the daughter of John Drummond and Elsie Hay. I cannot find any previous marriage of daughter Elsie to a Mr Sherlock. I also cannot see any reason why she should have been adopted. Elsie's father died in 1926 and he named his wife as executor leaving her reasonably well provided for. I also cannot find any record of a remarriage of Elsie's mother to a Mr Sherlock. All I can think of is that the parents may have abandoned Elsie for adoption as a child. Does anyone have any ideas? David

Hello all, Just to let you know that I found a records on the LDS website being returned with the information "Merchant Marine Births At Sea". The category of Great Britain Births and Baptisms - 1571 - 1977 has recently been updated, so it's possible they are new additions to the site or they've been lurking there for a while :o) Anyhow, just a heads up for those with an interest.... https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1770884 Regards, Sally

Hi David, CR 1 & 2 refer to Seamen's Register Cards, and Dis. A. No. is the individual discharge or reference number that a particular seaman is recorded by as he signs on or off a particular ship. Have a look at................ http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/merchantseaman after1917.htm You'll find details and downloadable Guides there. regards Tony -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David McWilliam Sent: 20 August 2012 08:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LIV] Merchant Navy Records - Liverpool Can any lister help me to better understand some documents I have in my possession stamped "M.M. Office Liverpool, from the 1920's and 1930's? What is C.R. 1. marked in top left corner? What is C.R. 2. marked in top left corner? What is Dis. A. No.? Thanks for any help offered. David ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, This link should answer your questions, and perhaps a few more :o) http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/merchant-seamen-sea-service-1913-1972.htm Regards, Sally > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:33:44 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Merchant Navy Records - Liverpool > > Can any lister help me to better understand some documents I have in my possession stamped "M.M. Office Liverpool, from the 1920's and 1930's? > > What is C.R. 1. marked in top left corner? > What is C.R. 2. marked in top left corner? > What is Dis. A. No.? > > Thanks for any help offered. > > David

Thanks very much to those who have responded to my request about JOSEPH SEWELL. Rosemary, the details that you sent prompted me to correlate them with the details that I had on PETER SUMPTON's voyages. It was very sad to see that Ann, his wife, was 19 when she married and 27 when she died. In the meantime she had four children - one of whom died. Her husband was away for about seven months each year and was only home for one of the births and not for the death of their son, John. Peter returned home from Canada only three weeks before Ann died. Her cause of death was recorded as "decline". Marion, thanks for your reference to the mariners' research guide. It has been very helpful. Some years ago I spent a lot of time researching PETER SUMPTON's voyages. I am groaning at the thought of going down that path again. I don't think that there is any link with the Quaker Sewells Maria but I will certainly keep an eye out for that. Thanks again, Tony. .............................................................................................................................................

Can any lister help me to better understand some documents I have in my possession stamped "M.M. Office Liverpool, from the 1920's and 1930's? What is C.R. 1. marked in top left corner? What is C.R. 2. marked in top left corner? What is Dis. A. No.? Thanks for any help offered. David

Hi These are documents of the "Merchantile Marine Office" in Liverpool. This was a UK Government Department of the Board of Trade (and other Departments at other times) The "Discharge A No" is a seaman's identification number, and the number of his Discharge book, which recorded all his voyages and his contact during them Regards Dr [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: David McWilliam <[email protected]> To: eng-liverpool <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 8:34 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Merchant Navy Records - Liverpool Can any lister help me to better understand some documents I have in my possession stamped "M.M. Office Liverpool, from the 1920's and 1930's? What is C.R. 1. marked in top left corner? What is C.R. 2. marked in top left corner? What is Dis. A. No.? Thanks for any help offered. David ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> On both marriage certs it lists his father as Acton Taylor occupation > Turner and neither show deceased. I've been caught out by this in the past... the fact that someone is NOT described as "deceased" doesn't necessarily mean that he is alive. Sometimes marriage certificates mention that a father is deceased... sometimes they don't. If the marriage certificate says "deceased" there is a good chance that he is... but if it doesn't then he may or may not be. Angelika On 19/08/12 00:03, Jackie Serna wrote: > Hi all, hoping for some help. I am trying albeit in vain to locate > details of one ACTON TAYLOR. My interest is John Taylor born Manchester > about 1826. > He was married in Liverpool first to Ellen Wildgoose 1845 who died 1849 > and then to Elizabeth Rawlinson in 1858. > > On both marriage certs it lists his father as Acton Taylor occupation > Turner and neither show deceased. > > I did locate a marriage Nov 17 1816 St Mary Manchester Lancs of Acton > Taylor and Maria Green with no other details. Neither of these folks can > be found on 1841 census or anywhere else except that marriage. > > John Taylor 1826 was a Master Mariner and I did find a John Taylor age > 15 Mariner on the 1841 Liverpool St Thomas census. > > I have all details from there forward but would love to find more about > Acton which I thought a rather uncommon name compared to John lol but > not so lucky. > If anyone has any other ideas they would be welcome. > Thanks > Jackie > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

oh yes very true, I jsut thought since on 2 certs years apart one might have said it, thanks Jackie Angelika wrote: > > On both marriage certs it lists his father as Acton Taylor occupation > > Turner and neither show deceased. > > I've been caught out by this in the past... the fact that someone is NOT > described as "deceased" doesn't necessarily mean that he is alive. > Sometimes marriage certificates mention that a father is deceased... > sometimes they don't. If the marriage certificate says "deceased" there > is a good chance that he is... but if it doesn't then he may or may not be. > >

Thank you Rosemary I have found a website called bmdregisters.co.uk which seems one can register and buy credits but search for free and got 8 returns on the name Acton........ Burial of george father acton on all acton 1812 simon 1816 another George 1822 and another Acton 1828 all Lancs, perhaps someone on the list has a subscription and can check them for me........again thanks for your suggestions I will follow them up Jackie Sent from my iPhone On 2012-08-18, at 8:55 PM, "Rosemary Martin" <[email protected]> wrote: > These would have to be an earlier generation - if related at all - but could be the Acton who was taxed. > Baptism: 22 Jan 1797 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England > Simon Taylor - son of Acton Taylor > Register: Baptisms 1797, Page 6 > Source: LDS Film 2357002 > > Burial: 27 Feb 1801 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England > Acton Taylor - > Buried by: J H Hindley Chap. or Vicar > Register: Burials 1801, Page 6 > Source: LDS Film 2356998 > > >> Hi all, hoping for some help. I am trying albeit in vain to locate >> details of one ACTON TAYLOR. My interest is John Taylor born Manchester >> about 1826. >> He was married in Liverpool first to Ellen Wildgoose 1845 who died 1849 >> and then to Elizabeth Rawlinson in 1858. >> >> On both marriage certs it lists his father as Acton Taylor occupation >> Turner and neither show deceased. >> >> I did locate a marriage Nov 17 1816 St Mary Manchester Lancs of Acton >> Taylor and Maria Green with no other details. Neither of these folks can >> be found on 1841 census or anywhere else except that marriage. >> >> John Taylor 1826 was a Master Mariner and I did find a John Taylor age >> 15 Mariner on the 1841 Liverpool St Thomas census. >> >> I have all details from there forward but would love to find more about >> Acton which I thought a rather uncommon name compared to John lol but >> not so lucky. >> If anyone has any other ideas they would be welcome. >> Thanks >> Jackie >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Morning all, Here are the latest records to be added to the Lancs OPC website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 17 August 2012 Burials 1815 to 1941 from the Church of St Michael-in-the-Hamlet, in the district of Aigburth, Liverpool Baptisms 1856 to 1858 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Joseph, in the District of Ancoats, Manchester Baptisms 1916 to 1928 from St Elizabeth of Hungary, Aspull, in the Town of Wigan Marriages 1787 to 1799 from the Church of St Aidan in the Parish of Billinge Burials 1827 to 1836 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Alban, Lark Hill, Blackburn Burials 1813 to 1856 from All Saints Church, Bolton Baptisms 1897 to 1949 from Blackburn Rd Congregational Church, Bolton Marriages 1786 to 1812 from the Church of St Mary Magdalene in the Parish of Clitheroe Marriages 1850 to 1851, 1856 to 1858 and 1876 to 1882 and Burials 1813 to 1818 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Eccles Burials 1782 to 1812 from the Church of St James, in the District of Gorton, Manchester Baptisms 1835 to 1836 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Adds a significant number of records to complete this Register Marriages 1897 to 1916 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Irlam Baptisms 1776 to 1812 from the Church of St Thomas, Pendleton Marriages 1894 to 1897 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, in the Parish of Radcliffe Baptisms 1841 to 1850 from the Church of St Clement, Toxteth, Liverpool Regards, Sally

Might Acton and Maria have emigrated?? On 19/08/2012 00:03, Jackie Serna wrote: > Hi all, hoping for some help. I am trying albeit in vain to locate > details of one ACTON TAYLOR. My interest is John Taylor born Manchester > about 1826. > He was married in Liverpool first to Ellen Wildgoose 1845 who died 1849 > and then to Elizabeth Rawlinson in 1858. > > On both marriage certs it lists his father as Acton Taylor occupation > Turner and neither show deceased. > > I did locate a marriage Nov 17 1816 St Mary Manchester Lancs of Acton > Taylor and Maria Green with no other details. Neither of these folks can > be found on 1841 census or anywhere else except that marriage. > > John Taylor 1826 was a Master Mariner and I did find a John Taylor age > 15 Mariner on the 1841 Liverpool St Thomas census. > > I have all details from there forward but would love to find more about > Acton which I thought a rather uncommon name compared to John lol but > not so lucky. > If anyone has any other ideas they would be welcome. > Thanks > Jackie > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Parents were: Peter Clarke b Liverpool 1808 and Sarah Eccles b West Derby 1811 Children were: Joseph Clarke b Liverpool 1841 William Clarke b Liverpool 1845 Mary Fletcher Clarke b Runcorn 1847 Ebenezer Clarke b Runcorn 1849 Nathaniel Clarke B Douglas IoM 1852 Also half-brothers from Peter's previous marriage to Mary Jordan: Abraham Clarke b Liverpool 1833 James Clarke b Liverpool 1835 David -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maria Haines Sent: 18 August 2012 20:17 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Brick wall - looking for suggestions Hi David, what were mary F's parents and sibs called? On 18/08/2012 16:02, David Railton wrote: > Harry Lewis b1871, Mabel Sara Lewis born 1873 and Mary > >Lewis born 1880. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, what were mary F's parents and sibs called? On 18/08/2012 16:02, David Railton wrote: > Harry Lewis b1871, Mabel Sara Lewis born 1873 and Mary > >Lewis born 1880.

Thanks for that. I suppose mothers do sometimes change their minds! Unfortunately I think I see the first two elsewhere in the 1881 census and just too many Marys Born Liverpool in 1880. David -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred H Held Sent: 18 August 2012 18:17 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Brick wall - looking for suggestions David, You do know that Lewis and Clarke are two very famous names in the USA. In 1804 they traveled up the Missouri river, over the Rocky Mountains and down the Snake and Columbia Rivers to the Pacific Ocean. Since the 1871 census clearly states they were born in Liverpool, here are some possibles: Births Mar 1872 LEWIS Leonard Harry Liverpool 8b 181 Births Jun 1873 Lewis Margaret Sarah Liverpool 8b 4 Births Jun 1880 LEWIS Mary Liverpool 8b 11 At 11:11 AM 8/18/2012, you wrote: >From: "David Railton" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Brick wall - looking for suggestions > >Anthony, > >Thank you for your reply. > >I can find no record of the birth of the children either with the name Lewis >or Clarke. ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/502fd7624b512576145ebst04duc ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, hoping for some help. I am trying albeit in vain to locate details of one ACTON TAYLOR. My interest is John Taylor born Manchester about 1826. He was married in Liverpool first to Ellen Wildgoose 1845 who died 1849 and then to Elizabeth Rawlinson in 1858. On both marriage certs it lists his father as Acton Taylor occupation Turner and neither show deceased. I did locate a marriage Nov 17 1816 St Mary Manchester Lancs of Acton Taylor and Maria Green with no other details. Neither of these folks can be found on 1841 census or anywhere else except that marriage. John Taylor 1826 was a Master Mariner and I did find a John Taylor age 15 Mariner on the 1841 Liverpool St Thomas census. I have all details from there forward but would love to find more about Acton which I thought a rather uncommon name compared to John lol but not so lucky. If anyone has any other ideas they would be welcome. Thanks Jackie