Hello all Another bit of spam from a subscriber's infected PC. This has been reported and the process to remove the post from the list's archives has been initiated. Never click on a link included in spam and remember to update and run your AV program frequently. Kind regards, Lynne co-admin. -----Original Message----- > > >hi friend, see that! http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >

Hello all, Here are the latest records to have been added to the Lancs OPC website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 16 October 2012 Baptisms 1908 to 1953 from Ebenezer Primitive Methodist Chapel in the Parish of Dukinfield Marriages 1887 to 1910 from the Church of the Holy Trinity, Wavertree, Liverpool Baptisms 1861 to 1869 and 1895 to 1901 from the Church of St Clement, Toxteth, Liverpool Marriages 1837 to 1917 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, in the district of Knotty Ash, Liverpool Regards, Sally

Hi Meg, I have also tried tracking my husband's family (from Portland, Dorset so many, many, many mariners involved there!) through the census, and found some information on this website which was helpful to me in knowing what's out there for doing this very thing.... http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKCensuses.html (Covers the 1841-1891 census schedules) 1841 Seamen on shore on census night were enumerated in the same way as the general public, in the place where they spent that night. There was no provision made for recording seamen at sea on census night. 1851 Seamen on board ships in port or docked on rivers were recorded for the first time. They were enumerated by the Master and collected by the local Officer of Customs whose duty it was to submit the records. The RGSS had similar responsibility for the enumeration of ships at sea within territorial waters. Survival rate for these records is poor. The records may be located following the normal census records for the port at which the ship was docked or the port to which it returned at the end of its voyage. 1861 Seamen on board all ships in port or docked in rivers were recorded and returns submitted to the Officer of Customs. The RGSS assumed responsibility for those at sea in territorial waters and for the first time, those 'on the high seas.' These records are filed in a separate schedule and found at the end of the regular census. The records have been indexed and alphabetical indexes are available on microfilm to both ships and seamen. These are available in many archives world wide and also through LDS libraries. 1871 - 1891 Returns filed as above, following the ordinary census records for the port at which the ship was docked on census night, or to which it returned following its voyage. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:31:43 +0100 > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census > > Thanks to all who replied to this. I went back to the census return on > findmypast. Clicking on 'previous page' brought up details of the ship > including its official number and tonnage. It also stated it was in dry > dock. > > My own fault for not looking properly in the first place. Hope my mistake > will now help others.

Thanks to all who replied to this. I went back to the census return on findmypast. Clicking on 'previous page' brought up details of the ship including its official number and tonnage. It also stated it was in dry dock. My own fault for not looking properly in the first place. Hope my mistake will now help others. Meg ----- Original Message ----- From: "hobby.horse" <[email protected]> To: "LIVERPOOL Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census > One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is > there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on > census night please? > > Thanks, Meg > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I found my great grandfather in the same census. He had been a seaman but at this time he was a watchman aboard a ship berthed in the Liverpool docks. I would somehow think the census would only be taken on ships in port at the time. It would be pretty hard to have the census forms out to the many ships of the British merchant marine back then, the ships that travelled all over the world on long, slow voyages. Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: hobby.horse Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:15 AM To: LIVERPOOL Mailing List Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? Thanks, Meg ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I suspect that it will not help in this case as probably a small vessel but the newspapers list arrival and departure of large vessels. Martin Briscoe Fort William [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hobby.horse Sent: 17 October 2012 15:16 To: LIVERPOOL Mailing List Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please?

Hi, The vessel was in port on census night, otherwise it would not have appeared on the census. I expect that there is a slight chance that it had sailed and the census taker was not aware it had, but that would have been irregular Regards Dr [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: hobby.horse <[email protected]> To: LIVERPOOL Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:17 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? Thanks, Meg ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Meg, Occasionally, I have found information on the vessel on the census enumerator's sheet. Maybe it would be the same in this case? It would also depend on what sort of ship it was, but sometimes googling the ship's name may also bring up information on sailing schedules and suchlike. Fingers crossed :o) Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:15:42 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census > > One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? > > Thanks, Meg

Hi Anne, thanks for getting back to me, Edgar was her husbands name but he died in Birkenhead in 1967, they must have lived in Wallasey, Birkenhead then. But thanks for looking for her. TED ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANNE BAMFORD" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] information from 1975-1977 telephone directory forLiverpool. What was her husbands name Ted? Phone numbers were often in a husbands name at that time period. What was the registration district of her death, this might narrow the search for you? Anne ________________________________ From: eddie lunt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 12:36 Subject: [ENG-LIV] information from 1975-1977 telephone directory for Liverpool. Hi everyone, im wondering if anyone is going to the Records in Liverpool and could spare me a minute or so of their time. Im looking for ELIZABETH SWANN nee LUNT, one of my dads sisters, who was living somewhere in Liverpool, she died in the first quarter of 1977 but I would like to know an address or telephone number for her. i cant get to Liverpool unfortunately, medical reasons, and im hoping that maybe someone can take a quick look through the old telephone directories for 1975 to 1977 for a number and home address, in that way I might be able to get further info from the Electoral registers ,. Thanks very much. TED lUNT ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2441/5336 - Release Date: 10/16/12

The Find my past census notes for 1891 says it includes seamen on docked vessels, so implication was it was in port. HTH Anne On 17 Oct 2012, at 15:15, hobby.horse wrote: > One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? > > Thanks, Meg

One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? Thanks, Meg

What was her husbands name Ted?  Phone numbers were often in a husbands name at that time period.  What was the registration district of her death, this might narrow the search for you? Anne ________________________________ From: eddie lunt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 12:36 Subject: [ENG-LIV] information from 1975-1977 telephone directory for Liverpool. Hi everyone, im wondering if anyone is going to the Records in Liverpool and could spare me a minute or so of their time. Im looking for ELIZABETH SWANN  nee LUNT, one of my dads sisters, who was living somewhere in Liverpool, she died in the first quarter of 1977 but I would like to know an address or telephone number for her. i cant get to Liverpool unfortunately, medical reasons, and im hoping that maybe someone can take a quick look through the old telephone directories for 1975 to 1977 for a number and home address, in that way I might be able to get further info from the Electoral registers ,. Thanks very much. TED lUNT ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected]  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks very much Joan. I've sent a message to that site. Jennifer On 17/10/2012, at 8:17 AM, JOAN ZORN wrote: > Jennifer > > Try this site > www.liverpool-schools.co.uk/ > > Joan

Hi, Would some kind person please contact me offlist. I need one ancestry.ca lookup. Thanks you, Joan -----Original Message----- From: Martin Briscoe Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census I suspect that it will not help in this case as probably a small vessel but the newspapers list arrival and departure of large vessels. Martin Briscoe Fort William [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hobby.horse Sent: 17 October 2012 15:16 To: LIVERPOOL Mailing List Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ted, I have sent some entries that I found on Ancestry off list. The directories don't go as far as the late 1970s for Liverpool, but hopefully something in there might give you a further avenue to go down. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:36:32 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] information from 1975-1977 telephone directory for Liverpool. > > Hi everyone, im wondering if anyone is going to the Records in Liverpool and could spare me a minute or so of their time. > Im looking for ELIZABETH SWANN nee LUNT, one of my dads sisters, who was living somewhere in Liverpool, she died in the first quarter of 1977 but I would like to know an address or telephone number for her. > > i cant get to Liverpool unfortunately, medical reasons, and im hoping that maybe someone can take a quick look through the > old telephone directories for 1975 to 1977 for a number and home address, in that way I might be able to get further info from > the Electoral registers ,. > > Thanks very much. > > TED lUNT

Hi everyone, im wondering if anyone is going to the Records in Liverpool and could spare me a minute or so of their time. Im looking for ELIZABETH SWANN nee LUNT, one of my dads sisters, who was living somewhere in Liverpool, she died in the first quarter of 1977 but I would like to know an address or telephone number for her. i cant get to Liverpool unfortunately, medical reasons, and im hoping that maybe someone can take a quick look through the old telephone directories for 1975 to 1977 for a number and home address, in that way I might be able to get further info from the Electoral registers ,. Thanks very much. TED lUNT

Dear List Would anyone be able to tell me please where records may be held about the history of the Stanley Street School and of students attending the School in 1890-1892 ? Was it a primary or secondary school ? I have two medals awarded to a boy by the Liverpool Schools Board for good attendance in 1890 and 1892. Many thanks Jennifer Bantow Geelong Australia

Jennifer   Try this site www.liverpool-schools.co.uk/   Joan ________________________________ From: Jennifer Bantow <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 19:32 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Stanley Street School 1890s Dear List Would anyone be able to tell me please where records may be held about  the history of the Stanley Street School and of students attending the  School in 1890-1892 ? Was it a primary or secondary school ? I have two medals awarded to a boy by the Liverpool Schools Board for  good attendance in 1890 and 1892. Many thanks Jennifer Bantow Geelong Australia ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected]  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone got the following families in their tree. Joseph Hughes at Threlfall Street with Margaret and Margaret,Joseph, Alice and Nellie. Joseph Hughes at Otway Street with Mary, Edith, Joseph and Eliza?. The Royle family at Burdett Street with Annie E. and Alice Emily. They are all on the 1911 census, and 2 of them at least are decsended from Thomas and Catherine Hughes married at St. Peters in 1843. Hilary

Hi List, concerning my Alpheus Kirkby LOWE who was born in Garston in 1884. He was a member, or should I say his parents were members of the Ebenezer Primitive Methodists as he married in one of their Chapels in 1910 in Market Drayton. Would it be possible that Alpheus may have been baptised/christened in Market Drayton prior to him marriage? I remember reading somewhere that this was so ? ! Regards, Michael McAllister