Please could someone tell me where I can find outgoing passenger records for about 1839? I have an Ancestry sub but they only appear to have incoming records. I am looking for a William Blackmore who supposedly married an Elizabeth Holland in 1839 in Liverpool and emigrated to New York. They had 7 children there (not proved), Sarah 1840, William Henry 1843, John 1845, Henry William 1848, Isaac Holland 1854, Thomas 1856, and Amelia 1860. Unfortunately, I don't have a worldwide sub so cannot look for these children and nor can I find a marriage for William and Elizabeth in Liverpool, so am not doing very well! I thought if I could find them as outgoing passengers it might confirm whether they married before they left Liverpool or when they got to New York. Also, if anyone has a worldwide sub to Ancestry too and can find the births of their children or census info for them I would be most grateful. Carolyn

Hi Carolyn, This death reference is shown in England, so perhaps you could have another look round on our census before looking for any passenger records.... Name: Isaac Holland Blackmore Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1855 Registration district: Liverpool Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 177 Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:50:00 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Outgoing passenger records Liverpool to New York / US BMD & Census records for William BLACKMORE > > Please could someone tell me where I can find outgoing passenger records for > about 1839? I have an Ancestry sub but they only appear to have incoming > records. I am looking for a William Blackmore who supposedly married an > Elizabeth Holland in 1839 in Liverpool and emigrated to New York. They had 7 > children there (not proved), Sarah 1840, William Henry 1843, John 1845, > Henry William 1848, Isaac Holland 1854, Thomas 1856, and Amelia 1860. > Unfortunately,

Hi Listers, I have found following link by accident, it's searchable and has been of a great help to me. Just thought I would share my find with you all. http://www.toxtethparkcemeteryinscriptions.co.uk/ I knew of http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/dbase/toxsearch.htm and not sure if both are linked. I see that there are some years added to http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/ for Anfield Cemetery too. Regards. Jean, Liverpool UK

Bill, Greetings from Western Australia! If you type "Learn about the family history of your surname" into Google it comes up with an Ancestry map search opportunity which might be what you want. Good Luck! Phil

Thanks Phil. I've seen several of these sites at various times. The family feel our name comes from France (French Huguenots) and there is the famous Pont du Gard, the department Gard, various towns that include the name in Provence. Other variations of early Gards in England go back to Williamthe Conqueror and a lot of his warriors were Vikings. Gard and variations thereof is very common in the Scandinavian countries. My thanks to all for their help. Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LIV] FOR BILL IN NANAIMO Bill, Greetings from Western Australia! If you type "Learn about the family history of your surname" into Google it comes up with an Ancestry map search opportunity which might be what you want. Good Luck! Phil ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Edward, but the link I once had, even though I've stored the resulting diagram, I still can't find. Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: edward paxton Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] (no subject) I recollect that this was done by the University of Leicester, and they did the 1881 census, and possibly 1901 as well. Good luck edward On 20 October 2012 20:17, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Can anyone help me with this? I know there is a website somewhere that > you > can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the > concentrations of such families. I've been on it but years ago and now I > just cannot locate it. I believe you can get the concentrations for the > late 1800s and the late 1900s. Any help much appreciated. > > Bill in Nanaimo > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Edward* ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, The Office of National Statistics have a data base of all adults registered for Social Welfare and is available on line. I picked up a concentration of my family name in the Outer Hebrides, they were fishermen from Lyme Regis but obviously managed a bit of R &b R when away from home, fishing ?? Cheers Peter in NZ. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: October-21-12 8:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LIV] (no subject) Can anyone help me with this? I know there is a website somewhere that you can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the concentrations of such families. I've been on it but years ago and now I just cannot locate it. I believe you can get the concentrations for the late 1800s and the late 1900s. Any help much appreciated. Bill in Nanaimo ( SNIP )

Hi Bill, I have just tried UCL surname profiler, CASA surname profiler, and simply Surname profiler on google and they all worked perfectly. Try again. Tony > Thanks Tony, I have the map showing the concentrations of GARDs in a storage > document and it shows as UCL surname profiler. But try as I may I cannot > get back onto that website. > > Bill in Nanaimo > > -

I recollect that this was done by the University of Leicester, and they did the 1881 census, and possibly 1901 as well. Good luck edward On 20 October 2012 20:17, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Can anyone help me with this? I know there is a website somewhere that you > can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the > concentrations of such families. I've been on it but years ago and now I > just cannot locate it. I believe you can get the concentrations for the > late 1800s and the late 1900s. Any help much appreciated. > > Bill in Nanaimo > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Edward*

Try UCL surname profiler. Tony O'Grady ...................................................................................... > > I know there is a website somewhere that you > can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the > concentrations of such families. > Bill in Nanaimo >

Where is that Social Welfare list please Peter. Any list is useful. Edie Tasmania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Chard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] (no subject) > Bill, The Office of National Statistics have a data base of all adults > registered for Social Welfare and is available on line. I picked up a > concentration of my family name in the Outer Hebrides, they were fishermen > from Lyme Regis but obviously managed a bit of R &b R when away from home, > fishing ?? Cheers Peter in NZ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: October-21-12 8:18 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-LIV] (no subject) > > > > Can anyone help me with this? I know there is a website somewhere that > you > can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the > concentrations of such families. I've been on it but years ago and now I > just cannot locate it. I believe you can get the concentrations for the > late 1800s and the late 1900s. Any help much appreciated. > > Bill in Nanaimo > > ( SNIP ) > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bill in Nanaimo asked about a website somewhere that you can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the concentrations of such families. This site shows UK concentrations based on fairly recent data http://surname.sofeminine.co.uk/w/surnames/ If you have access to Ancestry then this link will take you to a page which lets you see a surname distribution based on the 1891 census. http://www.ancestry.co.uk/learn/facts/default.aspx# Then this link takes you to a site which lets you analyse the 1881 census by Surname, by county and even Parish. http://www.britishsurnames.co.uk/1881census/ Happy hunting, Duncan, Dundee

Tony, I GOOGLE-d around a lot, including your suggestions. In some places there was no capacity to enter a name and institute a search. The best result I've had so far is via the site Duncan Smith suggested. Thanks for your input. Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: Tony O'Grady Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] surname profiler Hi Bill, I have just tried UCL surname profiler, CASA surname profiler, and simply Surname profiler on google and they all worked perfectly. Try again. Tony > Thanks Tony, I have the map showing the concentrations of GARDs in a > storage > document and it shows as UCL surname profiler. But try as I may I cannot > get back onto that website. > > Bill in Nanaimo > > - ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Tony, I have the map showing the concentrations of GARDs in a storage document and it shows as UCL surname profiler. But try as I may I cannot get back onto that website. Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: Tony O'Grady Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] surname profiler Try UCL surname profiler. Tony O'Grady ...................................................................................... > > I know there is a website somewhere that you > can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the > concentrations of such families. > Bill in Nanaimo > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Peter but what I've had up on my screen before is a colour coded map detailing the concentrations of people bearing my family name - GARD. It's in there somewhere! Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: Peter Chard Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] (no subject) Bill, The Office of National Statistics have a data base of all adults registered for Social Welfare and is available on line. I picked up a concentration of my family name in the Outer Hebrides, they were fishermen from Lyme Regis but obviously managed a bit of R &b R when away from home, fishing ?? Cheers Peter in NZ. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: October-21-12 8:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LIV] (no subject) Can anyone help me with this? I know there is a website somewhere that you can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the concentrations of such families. I've been on it but years ago and now I just cannot locate it. I believe you can get the concentrations for the late 1800s and the late 1900s. Any help much appreciated. Bill in Nanaimo ( SNIP ) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me with this? I know there is a website somewhere that you can access, type in your family name and see where, in the UK, were the concentrations of such families. I've been on it but years ago and now I just cannot locate it. I believe you can get the concentrations for the late 1800s and the late 1900s. Any help much appreciated. Bill in Nanaimo

Morning Listers, This morning's visit to the Lancs OPC website found the following records have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 19 October 2012 Baptisms 1825 to 1842 from the Church of St James, Accrington These records replace a set for 1831 to 1842 from the Bishop's Transcripts with the full contents of the Parish Register for 1825 to 1842 Marriages 1858 to 1860 and Burials 1897 to 1970 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Eccles Baptisms and Burials 1796 to 1802 from the Church of the Sacred Trinity, Salford Marriages 1911 to 1923 from the Church of St Philip, Salford Baptisms 1892 to 1897 from the Parish of Skelmersdale Baptisms 1921 to 1942 from the Church of St Luke, Weaste Baptisms 1921 to 1942 from the Stowell Memorial Church, Weaste Regards, Sally

Hi, Just to clear up a popular misconception: Just because spam is sent with a particular "from' header does not mean that that email has actually come from the purported sender (either by design or due to their computer being infected) It is a trivial exercise to send an email with a false "from" address. Sometimes your email address is "harvested" and spam can be sent which appears to come from you but has not, in fact, originated from your computer - which may be "clean" of any infection. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do if your computer is clean but some spammer is sending mail which appears to come from you :o(( I'm not trying to make any point - I just mention it out of interest having come across people worrying after being told their computer must be infected when, in fact, there was no problem at their end. Cheers Neil -- Neil Houghton Albany Western Australia on 19/10/12 3:01 PM, [email protected] at [email protected] wrote: > From: Lynne <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Lynne <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT) > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] (no subject) > > Hello all > > Another bit of spam from a subscriber's infected PC. This has been reported > and the process to remove the post from the list's archives has been > initiated. > > Never click on a link included in spam and remember to update and run your AV > program frequently. > > Kind regards, > Lynne > co-admin. > >

Neil, it's unlikely that mail from a spoofed address will make it to a RootsWeb list. Unfortunately, in this case the subscriber's computer is infected. Discussion and information about viruses can be found on the VIRUS-DISCUSSION list (see http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Internet_Help/VIRUS-DISCUSSION.html). Lynne list co-admin. -----Original Message----- > >Hi, > >Just to clear up a popular misconception: > >Just because spam is sent with a particular "from' header does not mean that >that email has actually come from the purported sender (either by design or >due to their computer being infected) > >It is a trivial exercise to send an email with a false "from" address. > >Sometimes your email address is "harvested" and spam can be sent which >appears to come from you but has not, in fact, originated from your computer >- which may be "clean" of any infection. > >Unfortunately, there is not much you can do if your computer is clean but >some spammer is sending mail which appears to come from you :o(( > >I'm not trying to make any point - I just mention it out of interest having >come across people worrying after being told their computer must be infected >when, in fact, there was no problem at their end. > >Cheers > > >Neil

Many thanks Sally. My man was actually a rigger which was why I thought it unlikely he'd be at sea. I now see the ship was in dry dock. Thanks again Meg ----- Original Message ----- From: "sally roberts" <[email protected]> To: "englanliverpool" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census > > Hi Meg, > > I have also tried tracking my husband's family (from Portland, Dorset so > many, many, many mariners involved there!) through the census, and found > some information on this website which was helpful to me in knowing what's > out there for doing this very thing.... > > http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKCensuses.html > > (Covers the 1841-1891 census schedules) > > 1841 Seamen on shore on census night were enumerated in the same way as > the general public, in the place where they spent that night. There was no > provision made for recording seamen at sea on census night. > > 1851 Seamen on board ships in port or docked on rivers were recorded for > the first time. They were enumerated by the Master and collected by the > local Officer of Customs whose duty it was to submit the records. The RGSS > had similar responsibility for the enumeration of ships at sea within > territorial waters. Survival rate for these records is poor. The records > may be located following the normal census records for the port at which > the ship was docked or the port to which it returned at the end of its > voyage. > > 1861 Seamen on board all ships in port or docked in rivers were recorded > and returns submitted to the Officer of Customs. The RGSS assumed > responsibility for those at sea in territorial waters and for the first > time, those 'on the high seas.' These records are filed in a separate > schedule and found at the end of the regular census. The records have been > indexed and alphabetical indexes are available on microfilm to both ships > and seamen. These are available in many archives world wide and also > through LDS libraries. > > 1871 - 1891 Returns filed as above, following the ordinary census records > for the port at which the ship was docked on census night, or to which it > returned following its voyage. > > Regards, > Sally > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:31:43 +0100 >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census >> >> Thanks to all who replied to this. I went back to the census return on >> findmypast. Clicking on 'previous page' brought up details of the ship >> including its official number and tonnage. It also stated it was in dry >> dock. >> >> My own fault for not looking properly in the first place. Hope my mistake >> will now help others. > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >