Hello Listers, If you had asked me 30 years ago if we were a service family, I would have said that our menfolk did their bit in two world wars but we weren't a service family. Then I took up family history and have been staggered at the number of soldiers and sailors in my family tree, too many to list but I appreciate the sacrifice even of those who came safely home. Those who come closest to my heart, mainly Londoners, are:- BRADBURY, Edward John, RAF WW2. BRADBURY, Walter Tyrrell, Suffolks, 2nd Boer War. BRADBURY, William Philip, Imperial Yeomanry, 2nd Boer War,and Royal Dragoon Guards WW1. CHANEY, Walter Gordon, Royal Fusliers WW1. (grew up in Liverpool) CHANEY, Walter Norman, Grenadier Guards WW2 (born Everton) LEVETT, Henry John, RN WW1, HMS Ardent, died 1 Jun 1916 (day following Battle of Jutland). TITLER, Ernest, REME WW1. TITLER, Edwin Charles, enlisted 1889 1st Border Regt., completed enlistment S. Africa 1903, half-brother to Ernest. TITLER, Henry Robert, RN WW1, full brother to Ernest. My Grandmother Bradbury said my Grandfather went with his brothers, Walter Tyrrell and William Philip, to enlist for the 2nd Boer War. He was turned down aged 17 (varicose veins) but Wal joined the Suffolks and William joined the Imperial Yeomanry aged... 14 years, 8 months and 12 days. They said he was a "big boy" and he was, all 6ft of him, and we always knew he'd lied about his age. The "star" of my show is my 1st cousin twice removed, Richard George MASTERS VC of Southport, gazetted 1918 and awarded the Croix de Guerre in 1917. He was an ambulance driver with the ASC and his example shows just what can be achieved if we stick our fears in our pockets and do what needs to be done. In books and on the internet a wrong birth date of 30 March 1877 is invariably given. I have a copy of his birth certificate which clearly shows he was born 23 March 1877. Ancestry have it right and they must have got it from the Regimental Museum who got it from me. The "star" of my husband's show is Richard Brooks, a gunner in the Royal Artillery (Captain's & Rogers's Co.) who played his part at Waterloo. Richard was a Lancashire man who settled in Liverpool after he left the army. Thank you, Lynne, for widening the scope. Lesley

Mallachy Kelly, died Sept. 27th. 1915. 1St. Battalion., The King's (Liverpool Regt). Remembered at Loos Memorial, France. Mallachy was born 1884 Widnes, Lancashire, Son of Peter and Bridget Kelly. Husband of Mary Ellen Davies, and Father of Leo Kelly (Davies), Veronica and Adelaide. Thomas Charles Wheatley, died Sept 5Th. 1916 E. Yorkshire Regt. Remembered at Thiepval Somme France. Thomas was born 1876 Notting Hill, Middlesex, son of Thomas and Mary Wheatley. Husband of Louisa Maude, Father of Lillian, Louie, Doris, Louisa, Charles, and Phyllis. Charles Wheatley Son of the above, Royal Army Bombadier, captured by Germans and then turned over to Italians. Taken to Stalag 44 where he remained for duration of War. Reunited with his Wife and Children in May 1945. May they always be Rembered. Meg

Dear All,   The following web site is a special project aiming to research 66 war dead on the St James, Toxteth Park, WW1 War Memorial.   http://www.thewarmemorial.blogspot.co.uk/   The memorial itself was stolen from the church in 1992 but part was later almost miraculously found a few hundred miles away.   Best wishes   Paul >________________________________ > From: Lynne <[email protected]> >To: >Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2012, 14:37 >Subject: [ENG-LIV] Lest We Forget > >Dear All, > >Today is Remembrance Sunday and tomorrow is Remembrance Day (Poppy Day or Armistice Day; Veterans' Day in the US).  Please take a moment to remember your family members and others who have perished in the line of duty. > >Wouldn't it be lovely if those of you with ancestors who served in the wars would acknowledge their contributions on the list with some memories or stories about them, or just a mention of when and where they served? > >For this special occasion only, you may include ancestors from outside of the area covered by this list.  So that others can find your posts, be sure to include your ancestor's surname in all caps in the subject line. > >I look forward to seeing your posts. > >Kind regards, >Lynne >list admin. >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >[email protected]  >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Albert Hughes, 22Pvt, 20 Btn Liverpool Kingsdied July 30, 1916 at Guillemont, Somme, France Charles Hughes, 32Stoker, Mercantile Marinedied July 17, 1918 aboard the Carpathia off of Fastnet, Ireland They were my greatuncles. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Lynne <[email protected]> To: Undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: [ENG-LIV] Lest We Forget Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:37:41 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Dear All, Today is Remembrance Sunday and tomorrow is Remembrance Day (Poppy Day or Armistice Day; Veterans' Day in the US). Please take a moment to remember your family members and others who have perished in the line of duty. Wouldn't it be lovely if those of you with ancestors who served in the wars would acknowledge their contributions on the list with some memories or stories about them, or just a mention of when and where they served? For this special occasion only, you may include ancestors from outside of the area covered by this list. So that others can find your posts, be sure to include your ancestor's surname in all caps in the subject line. I look forward to seeing your posts. Kind regards, Lynne list admin. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 57 But Looks 27 Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/509fe125fea161245eadst04duc

Name: NEWTON, THOMAS JAMES Initials: T J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment Unit Text: 2nd/9th Bn. Age: 27 Date of Death: 22/11/1917 Service No: 53378 Additional information: Son of John James and Maria Newton, of 40, Park Rd., Liverpool. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: XXVII. BB. 5A. Cemetery: LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY

Dear All, Today is Remembrance Sunday and tomorrow is Remembrance Day (Poppy Day or Armistice Day; Veterans' Day in the US). Please take a moment to remember your family members and others who have perished in the line of duty. Wouldn't it be lovely if those of you with ancestors who served in the wars would acknowledge their contributions on the list with some memories or stories about them, or just a mention of when and where they served? For this special occasion only, you may include ancestors from outside of the area covered by this list. So that others can find your posts, be sure to include your ancestor's surname in all caps in the subject line. I look forward to seeing your posts. Kind regards, Lynne list admin.

Morning all, This morning's visit to the OPC website found the following databases added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 9 November 2012 Burials 1825 to 1839 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Marriages 1728 to 1745 from the Parish of Astley Marriages 1857 to 1882 from All Saints Church, Bolton Marriages 1850 to 1862 from the Church of St John, Bolton Banns 1831 to 1857 from the Church of St Augustine, Everton Baptisms 1917 to 1927 from Christ Church, Salford Baptisms 1886 to 1890 from the Church of St Clement, Toxteth, Liverpool Baptisms 1908 to 1925 from the Church of St Paul, Walkden Baptisms 1880 to 1891 and 1908 to 1915 from the Church of St Jude the Apostle, West Derby, Liverpool Baptisms 1901 to 1906 from St Catharine, Scholes, in the Town of Wigan Marriages 1888 to 1896 from St Thomas, in the Town of Wigan Regards, Sally

Additions from our friends at Lancashire BMD: Added 8,110 Births for Bolton RD comprising: Farnworth (1879-1883); Little Bolton (1860-1863) Amended 15,998 Births for Burnley RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Burnley (1884-1889) Added 11,000 Deaths for Oldham RD comprising: Oldham Above Town (1891-1901) Added 4,425 Deaths for Hyndburn RD comprising: Haslingden (1938-1974) Added 1,496 Deaths for Burnley RD comprising: Burnley (1971-1974) Added 255 Marriages for Hyndburn RD comprising: Hyndburn Register Office or Registrar Attended (1950-1954) ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

I could swear this was discussed before, but I can't find the posts. Oh well. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >From Deceased Online: Bolton Council, Overdale Crematorium, Overdale Drive, Chorley New Road, Bolton, Lancashire, BL1 5BU. All burial and cremation records for Bolton Council in the county of Lancashire, North West England are being made available online. There are seven cemeteries and one crematorium. Astley Bridge Cemetery, opened 1884 Blackrod Cemetery, opened 1887 Farnworth Cemetery, opened 1876 Heaton Cemetery, opened 1879 Horwich (Ridgemont) Cemetery, opened 1928 Tonge Cemetery, opened 1856 Westhaughton Cemetery, opened 1858 Overdale Crematorium, opened 1954 The data for each cemetery will comprise digital scans of the burial registers, grave details indicating grave occupants, cemetery maps indicating the section where each grave is located and photographs of some memorials. Data for Tonge Cemetery is available immediately with data for all the other cemeteries and the crematorium to follow over the next few weeks during November and December 2012. Tonge Cemetery, Cemetery Road, Bolton – Lancashire BL2 6AG. Tonge Cemetery was the first municipal cemetery in Bolton when it opened on New Years Eve 1856 and was known simply as Bolton cemetery. In 2002, English Heritage considered Tonge cemetery to be of sufficient historical interest to be placed on the Register of Parks and Gardens as a Grade II listed site. Its architect and landscape designer William Henderson also designed Corporation Park in Blackburn, Alexandra park in Oldham and Bolton’s Queens park. Tonge Cemetery has many impressive old memorials featuring prominent industrialists and other citizens from the area. However, perhaps the most famous burial is that of Fred Dibnah, the steeplejack who became a cult TV personality with his programmes, made in the 1980s and 1990s, on industrial heritage and engineering mostly from the industrial revolution. Dibnah died in 2004 and his memorial, together with over 4,000 others, is available in the data on the website. Another tragic but curious burial record is that for Thomas McCarte (aka MacCarte) who died in 1872. The unfortunate Mr McCarte was a lion tamer with the visiting ‘Manders Menagerie’ and he had already lost an arm working in his chosen profession with Bell and Myers’ Circus at Liverpool. On January 3rd, 1872, Mr McCarte, billed as ‘Massarti the Lion Tamer’, commenced what was to be his final performance in Bolton. You can read a rather gruesome [very gruesome!] and detailed account of his confrontation with an ‘Asian Lion’ in a New York Times archive at: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40617FC3C5D1A7493C2AB178AD85F468784F9 In total, there are records for over 116,600 burials, dating from opening on 31 December 1856 to November 2010. The data available comprises: burial register scans with 20 entries per scanned page grave details providing information on all those buried in the grave as well as the grave reference photographs of 4,000 memorials and headstones which include approximately 20,000 names of those buried in the cemetery cemetery maps showing the section where the grave is located. Note: The cemetery maps provide details of the section within the cemtery where the selected grave is located. Each section or block comprises upto 100 graves. Most of the gravestones and memorials incorporate grave reference numbers so using the maps, it is relatively easy to find the searched for grave. It should also be noted that in the 1860’s a fire destroyed many of the original burial maps. Consequently it may not be possible to accurately locate a small number of plots especially if the deceased was buried in an early communal grave by the river where the graves are unmarked and there are very few headstones. Note Bolton Council have requested that the addresses of the deceased not be shown in burial register records for the last 15 years. Viewers will not be able to view the most recent data until it is 3 years old to allow the families of the deceased time to inform their relatives.

Hi Anthony, As you're already aware, there are no official immigration records between England and Northern Ireland. There are some Irish Genealogy sites which might help you, but areas of coverage are patchy, so you may have to bookmark the sites and check for updates.... http://www.rootsireland.ie/ ( This is not a free website, but it probably has the best set of records online for Ireland so far) http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/index.html ( This is a free website, but the coverage is restrictive at the moment) https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084 (These are free to search on the LDS, with the added bonus of the Irish prison registers original images available to be viewed) Some records are also on Ancestry (probably within your subscription), but again, areas of coverage are patchy. Hope that something in there helps! Regards, Sally > Hello Listers > > I am trying to locate immigration records on my ancestors? I would like to know where and what records are available for me to search for there immigration from Fermaghan, Northern Ireland to Liverpool/Manchester Lancashire England

From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Main of Toxteth Park Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:13:12 +0000 Hello all, I've been researching the above surname for some time now and just thought Id put a post up on here to see if any others have this surname ocuring in their line and who may be interested to find out more. with thanks, Paul

Hello all, I've been researching the above surname for some time now and just thought Id put a post up on here to see if any others have this surname ocuring in their line and who may be interested to find out more. with thanks, Paul

As Ireland at the time was part of the UK (as Northern Ireland still is) they weren't immigrants as such, so you won't find any records of people crossing the Irish sea. You will have to look at subsequent census returns and hope to tie down a place name for their origin or investigate Irish marriage records to see if you can find them in there. Other records to consider are the poor law and other documents for the parishes they lived in - if they claimed any sort of help, there may be information about where they came from in there. Antony -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Michael Sent: 08 November 2012 01:38 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-LIV] Scollon Family of Liverpool/Manchester Need some assistance on where to find immigration records at Hello Listers I am trying to locate immigration records on my ancestors? I would like to know where and what records are available for me to search for there immigration from Fermaghan, Northern Ireland to Liverpool/Manchester Lancashire England There first residence on the 1851 Census was St Helen,Windle,Lancashire England There last daughter was born 1844. Im assuming they came to Lancashire England between 1844-1851. I would like to know how I can start out by researching there immigration records and what information may have on them. I have already looked on ancestry.com but not sure if its my ancestors or not Any information appreciated Thankyou Anthony ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, you are not going to be lucky. Northern Ireland and England were and still are part of the same country, so there won't be any immigration records. I don't think you are likely to find shipping passenger records either. You could look to see if you can find them on the 1841 census of Ireland . But lots of earlier Irish records were destroyed in the early 20th century. Try looking at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/#Census HTH Anne On 8 Nov 2012, at 01:38, Anthony Michael wrote: > Hello Listers > > I am trying to locate immigration records on my ancestors? I would like to know where and what records are available for me to search for there immigration from Fermaghan, Northern Ireland to Liverpool/Manchester Lancashire England > > There first residence on the 1851 Census was > > > St Helen,Windle,Lancashire England > > There last daughter was born 1844. Im assuming they came to Lancashire England between 1844-1851. > > I would like to know how I can start out by researching there immigration records and what information may have on them. I have already looked on ancestry.com but not sure if its my ancestors or not > > > Any information appreciated > > Thankyou > > Anthony

Hello Listers I am trying to locate immigration records on my ancestors? I would like to know where and what records are available for me to search for there immigration from Fermaghan, Northern Ireland to Liverpool/Manchester Lancashire England There first residence on the 1851 Census was St Helen,Windle,Lancashire England There last daughter was born 1844. Im assuming they came to Lancashire England between 1844-1851. I would like to know how I can start out by researching there immigration records and what information may have on them. I have already looked on ancestry.com but not sure if its my ancestors or not Any information appreciated Thankyou Anthony

Those interested in Burnley history might enjoy reading these two articles published in the Burnley Express: "The ‘playgrounds’ of Burnley’s past" at <http://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/opinion/columnists/nostalgia-the-playgrounds-of-burnley-s-past-1-5075404> or <http://tinyurl.com/bfcl3pm> and "The history of Heasandford" at <http://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/opinion/columnists/peek-into-past-the-history-of-heasandford-1-5075413> or <http://tinyurl.com/crg3oj8> Best wishes, Lynne

Perhaps this news article from the Chorley Guardian will be of interest to some: "A Chorley magistrate who spent five years painstakingly researching his family tree has published his own book. "Paul Helmn [sic], a former podiatrist, and now a Justice of the Peace for Lancashire, spent years researching 625 names, 168 marriages, and 21 generations. "With various hiccups along the way, including a computer glitch which meant he lost a lot of work, Paul has now recorded his family history stretching back almost 700 years. "Paul, who lives in Charnock Richard with wife Blanche, said the process was a labour of love and helped him feel closer to his ancestors. "The adventure started in 2008 with a call from a cousin who wanted some information about their great-grandfather. "Not wanting to stop there, Paul decided to delve deeper. "He said: “I did some research and I couldn’t find what we were looking for, but I went further back instead. “'I thought I would try to find out exactly where we came from. “'In a family you get lots of rumours. Your gran says she came in on a boat, or whatever, but I wanted to find out for sure. “'I rejoined the Lancashire County Record office, in Bow Lane, Preston, and after several years we got to where we started from, in Chipping. “'I traced the family name and got back to 1304.'” Wish I could get back that far! Read the rest at <http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/community/flashback/magistrate-paul-pieces-together-700-years-of-family-history-for-new-book-1-5101675> or http://tinyurl.com/azueqet

Great! Lynne Jill Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: > >Its all been sorted now Lynne, thanks for your concern. > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >> Hi Jill >> >> I'm sure someone is bound to help, but can you clarify what you mean, >> please? >> >> Kind regards, >> Lynne >> >> >> Jill Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>Can someone resend this testing please?

Hi Jill I'm sure someone is bound to help, but can you clarify what you mean, please? Kind regards, Lynne Jill Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: >Can someone resend this testing please? > > >> Sally

Hello all, Today's visit to the Lancs OPC website found the following records have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 6 November 2012 Burials 2011 to 2012 from Burnley Cemeterys Marriages 1864 to 1894 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, in the Parish of Radcliffe Marriages 1954 to 2012 from Tockholes United Reformed Church (formerly the old Independent Chapel and Bethesda Chapel), Tockholes Regards, Sally