Wow! There WAS an age difference. Thanks. Trying to figure out where John Ramsden comes into it. Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Nicola Pike [mailto:nicola.pike@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:03 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON 1901 Census shows In Bilsby William Whitton 74 Born Orby Harriet Whitton 40 Born North Owesby Frederick A Whitton 10 son Born Bilsby Nik On 9 March 2012 14:38, Diana Robinson <drobins6@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > I wonder if anyone can shed light on a mystery. > > Harriett Dawson Fletcher, daughter of William Dawson Fletcher and Jane > Stuble/Stubbleday was baptised in North Owersby 2 Jul 1865. > > I have a marriage certificate giving the following information: > Marriage certificate: > October 1, 1889 > Parish Church in the parish of Bilsby > William Hopson Whitton, age full, Widower, Farmer, Bilsby, Father Tobias > Whitton, Builder > Harriett Dawson Fletcher, age full, Spinster, Bilsby, Father William Dawson > Fletcher, Farmer > Witnesses: Maria Wilkinson and John Carter. > > This is clearly "my" Harriett. However, members of the family who still live > in the Horncastle area, and the family bible (which I do not have but which > I believe to have been put together from memory rather than as the events > occurred) maintain that Harriett married a John Ramsden, and one of my > cousins still remembers Harriett and John Ramsden as a couple. I have > searched every BMD record of a John Ramsden marrying a Harriet (with > variation of the spelling) but cannot find one. I did find that William > Hopson Whitten died 1910 (registered Spilsby March 1910). > > Any thoughts, anyone? I realize that "widow Harriet Whitton" might have > simply moved in with John Ramsden but am wondering if there is any other > explanation, or perhaps there are records that I have not yet accessed. > > Happy hunting! > > Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) > Now in Rochester, NY, USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Crouch [mailto:philcrouch@btinternet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:27 PM > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] March theme > > On the issue of name preferences, my grandfather Albert Ernest Wyatt > Woolley appears under either forename in records. I don't know which > moniker he actually used in adult life - he was scarcely mentioned in my > childhood. Having two middle names is relatively uncommon (Wyatt was > non-Lincs family name) but in his case was rather useful e.g. as his > initials were easily confused with his brother so used all three for his > WWI records. > > Phil Crouch > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The following is, I think, the link between your Harriet and John Ramsden. Harriet was in the 1911 census living in Leeds (Wharfdale registration district), Yorkshire BLACKBURN, James Head Widower M 56 b.1855 Scarbo Yorks WHITTON, Harriet Sister Widow F 46 b.1865 Owersby Lincolnshire WHITTON, Arthur Nephew Single M 20 b.1891 Bilsby Lincolnshire Harriet Whitton marriage to Hartley Smith in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q4 1917 Hartley Smith death in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q3 1919 Harriet Smith marriage to John W Ramsden in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q2 1920 I didn't follow the chain any further! Regards, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Diana Robinson Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:05 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON Wow! There WAS an age difference. Thanks. Trying to figure out where John Ramsden comes into it. Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Nicola Pike [mailto:nicola.pike@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:03 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON 1901 Census shows In Bilsby William Whitton 74 Born Orby Harriet Whitton 40 Born North Owesby Frederick A Whitton 10 son Born Bilsby Nik On 9 March 2012 14:38, Diana Robinson <drobins6@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > I wonder if anyone can shed light on a mystery. > > Harriett Dawson Fletcher, daughter of William Dawson Fletcher and Jane > Stuble/Stubbleday was baptised in North Owersby 2 Jul 1865. > > I have a marriage certificate giving the following information: > Marriage certificate: > October 1, 1889 > Parish Church in the parish of Bilsby > William Hopson Whitton, age full, Widower, Farmer, Bilsby, Father Tobias > Whitton, Builder > Harriett Dawson Fletcher, age full, Spinster, Bilsby, Father William Dawson > Fletcher, Farmer > Witnesses: Maria Wilkinson and John Carter. > > This is clearly "my" Harriett. However, members of the family who still live > in the Horncastle area, and the family bible (which I do not have but which > I believe to have been put together from memory rather than as the events > occurred) maintain that Harriett married a John Ramsden, and one of my > cousins still remembers Harriett and John Ramsden as a couple. I have > searched every BMD record of a John Ramsden marrying a Harriet (with > variation of the spelling) but cannot find one. I did find that William > Hopson Whitten died 1910 (registered Spilsby March 1910). > > Any thoughts, anyone? I realize that "widow Harriet Whitton" might have > simply moved in with John Ramsden but am wondering if there is any other > explanation, or perhaps there are records that I have not yet accessed. > > Happy hunting! > > Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) > Now in Rochester, NY, USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Crouch [mailto:philcrouch@btinternet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:27 PM > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] March theme > > On the issue of name preferences, my grandfather Albert Ernest Wyatt > Woolley appears under either forename in records. I don't know which > moniker he actually used in adult life - he was scarcely mentioned in my > childhood. Having two middle names is relatively uncommon (Wyatt was > non-Lincs family name) but in his case was rather useful e.g. as his > initials were easily confused with his brother so used all three for his > WWI records. > > Phil Crouch > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Apologies for the census I should have said she lived in Menston, Leeds. Regards, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Ward Family Tree Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:30 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON The following is, I think, the link between your Harriet and John Ramsden. Harriet was in the 1911 census living in Leeds (Wharfdale registration district), Yorkshire BLACKBURN, James Head Widower M 56 b.1855 Scarbo Yorks WHITTON, Harriet Sister Widow F 46 b.1865 Owersby Lincolnshire WHITTON, Arthur Nephew Single M 20 b.1891 Bilsby Lincolnshire Harriet Whitton marriage to Hartley Smith in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q4 1917 Hartley Smith death in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q3 1919 Harriet Smith marriage to John W Ramsden in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q2 1920 I didn't follow the chain any further! Regards, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Diana Robinson Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:05 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON Wow! There WAS an age difference. Thanks. Trying to figure out where John Ramsden comes into it. Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Nicola Pike [mailto:nicola.pike@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:03 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON 1901 Census shows In Bilsby William Whitton 74 Born Orby Harriet Whitton 40 Born North Owesby Frederick A Whitton 10 son Born Bilsby Nik On 9 March 2012 14:38, Diana Robinson <drobins6@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > I wonder if anyone can shed light on a mystery. > > Harriett Dawson Fletcher, daughter of William Dawson Fletcher and Jane > Stuble/Stubbleday was baptised in North Owersby 2 Jul 1865. > > I have a marriage certificate giving the following information: > Marriage certificate: > October 1, 1889 > Parish Church in the parish of Bilsby > William Hopson Whitton, age full, Widower, Farmer, Bilsby, Father Tobias > Whitton, Builder > Harriett Dawson Fletcher, age full, Spinster, Bilsby, Father William Dawson > Fletcher, Farmer > Witnesses: Maria Wilkinson and John Carter. > > This is clearly "my" Harriett. However, members of the family who still live > in the Horncastle area, and the family bible (which I do not have but which > I believe to have been put together from memory rather than as the events > occurred) maintain that Harriett married a John Ramsden, and one of my > cousins still remembers Harriett and John Ramsden as a couple. I have > searched every BMD record of a John Ramsden marrying a Harriet (with > variation of the spelling) but cannot find one. I did find that William > Hopson Whitten died 1910 (registered Spilsby March 1910). > > Any thoughts, anyone? I realize that "widow Harriet Whitton" might have > simply moved in with John Ramsden but am wondering if there is any other > explanation, or perhaps there are records that I have not yet accessed. > > Happy hunting! > > Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) > Now in Rochester, NY, USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Crouch [mailto:philcrouch@btinternet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:27 PM > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] March theme > > On the issue of name preferences, my grandfather Albert Ernest Wyatt > Woolley appears under either forename in records. I don't know which > moniker he actually used in adult life - he was scarcely mentioned in my > childhood. Having two middle names is relatively uncommon (Wyatt was > non-Lincs family name) but in his case was rather useful e.g. as his > initials were easily confused with his brother so used all three for his > WWI records. > > Phil Crouch > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you so much, Linda! That is exactly what I was looking for. I hadn't figured on three marriages - that is what threw me off! Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Ward Family Tree [mailto:WardFamilyTree@btinternet.com] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 3:31 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON The following is, I think, the link between your Harriet and John Ramsden. Harriet was in the 1911 census living in Leeds (Wharfdale registration district), Yorkshire BLACKBURN, James Head Widower M 56 b.1855 Scarbo Yorks WHITTON, Harriet Sister Widow F 46 b.1865 Owersby Lincolnshire WHITTON, Arthur Nephew Single M 20 b.1891 Bilsby Lincolnshire Harriet Whitton marriage to Hartley Smith in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q4 1917 Hartley Smith death in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q3 1919 Harriet Smith marriage to John W Ramsden in Wharfdale RD recorded in Q2 1920 I didn't follow the chain any further! Regards, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Diana Robinson Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:05 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON Wow! There WAS an age difference. Thanks. Trying to figure out where John Ramsden comes into it. Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Nicola Pike [mailto:nicola.pike@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:03 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Harriett Dawson FLETCHER-John RAMSDEN-William WHITTON 1901 Census shows In Bilsby William Whitton 74 Born Orby Harriet Whitton 40 Born North Owesby Frederick A Whitton 10 son Born Bilsby Nik On 9 March 2012 14:38, Diana Robinson <drobins6@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > I wonder if anyone can shed light on a mystery. > > Harriett Dawson Fletcher, daughter of William Dawson Fletcher and Jane > Stuble/Stubbleday was baptised in North Owersby 2 Jul 1865. > > I have a marriage certificate giving the following information: > Marriage certificate: > October 1, 1889 > Parish Church in the parish of Bilsby > William Hopson Whitton, age full, Widower, Farmer, Bilsby, Father Tobias > Whitton, Builder > Harriett Dawson Fletcher, age full, Spinster, Bilsby, Father William Dawson > Fletcher, Farmer > Witnesses: Maria Wilkinson and John Carter. > > This is clearly "my" Harriett. However, members of the family who still live > in the Horncastle area, and the family bible (which I do not have but which > I believe to have been put together from memory rather than as the events > occurred) maintain that Harriett married a John Ramsden, and one of my > cousins still remembers Harriett and John Ramsden as a couple. I have > searched every BMD record of a John Ramsden marrying a Harriet (with > variation of the spelling) but cannot find one. I did find that William > Hopson Whitten died 1910 (registered Spilsby March 1910). > > Any thoughts, anyone? I realize that "widow Harriet Whitton" might have > simply moved in with John Ramsden but am wondering if there is any other > explanation, or perhaps there are records that I have not yet accessed. > > Happy hunting! > > Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) > Now in Rochester, NY, USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Crouch [mailto:philcrouch@btinternet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:27 PM > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] March theme > > On the issue of name preferences, my grandfather Albert Ernest Wyatt > Woolley appears under either forename in records. I don't know which > moniker he actually used in adult life - he was scarcely mentioned in my > childhood. Having two middle names is relatively uncommon (Wyatt was > non-Lincs family name) but in his case was rather useful e.g. as his > initials were easily confused with his brother so used all three for his > WWI records. > > Phil Crouch > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message