i found the reference for 1861 for thomas aged 22 (the edward is aged 18 so poss not his brother who would have been 24 but not necessarily so, just give place of birth as lincoln (as the above person did ie ditto sighns) but all ag labs. they are in upton upon severn worcestershire ref RG9/2098 when looking for marriages also look in twekesbury and gloucestershire as upton on severn is just on the worcestershire side of the severn river the other side being gloucestershire also try Bristol.i found 3 marriages 2 in 1862 and one in 1865 in worcestershire for thomas smith one was possibly to an elizabeth smith.   i will let you work on that one hope this proves to be of help regards Elaine Westaway   btw if he married whilst in the coldstream guards then he might have married in London so heaven help you on that one! ________________________________ From: elaine westaway <laneywest1960@yahoo.com> To: "eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com" <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012, 5:04 Subject: Re: [LIN] Brick wall -Thomas SMITH b 1839 Middle Rasen Lincs - who washis 1st wife? there s thomas and an edward smith in the 1861 census livng in worcestershire just giving his irthplace as lincolnshire could this be him, he is an ag lab, my computer is playing up and wont let me get back to the entry to get the ref no but if so then this could be where he first married   regards Elaine Westaway ________________________________ From: "bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca" <bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca> To: Pat Cook <paver207@yahoo.co.uk>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 2 April 2012, 17:20 Subject: Re: [LIN] Brick wall -Thomas SMITH b 1839 Middle Rasen Lincs - who washis 1st wife?   As you say he could of married in the army. Now you have to look for his Service Papers in which his 1st marriage will be listed Bill Stratton Cole Harbour NS Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Cook" <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: [LIN] Brick wall -Thomas SMITH b 1839 Middle Rasen Lincs - who washis 1st wife? Thomas SMITH bapt 1839 St Paul's, Middle Rasen igi C02857-6 . 1873 July 20 - He marries Hannah LEE at Mkt Rasen R.C.Church. For many years I have searched for a first wife. I cannot be certain he married in Lincolnshire. or Yorkshire. Tried to follow up every Thomas who married I also have a small coloured photograph in a velvet lined leather case, showing him in uniform, I have had it identified, and he is in the 'Coldstream Guards' The 'Stock' at his neck has been suggested is of the type worn in 1960, it was to keep the Guardsmen's heads up, and it was lowered several times over the years. . If anybody else has any suggestions for me to try, it would be appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message