it would be in the census but they are terrible, my g grandfather's parents died in 1872&73 and left 6 children under 10 3 boys and 3 girls, the boys were taken in by his step grandfather's brothers and were listed as servants in the censuses and took me ages to find them as they were listed by their fathers original name ( he took his stepfathers surname after his mother mrried him as his father died before he was born).   The girls, however, were all shipped off from Ottery St Mary in Devon to the "New Orphan Houses" in Bristol which was also an industrial school were they were brought up to be servants all were listed in the census for 1881 but under  their name ie sarah and eliza coles but with no place of birth other than devon and an assumed age which was out for both of them (the elder girl being 15 by then was out and earning and later married her employer}. i am not sure what happened to the records for industrial schools, if they were boys they might have been placed  on a hulk such as were birthed in woolwich then the records were held by the navy into which many of these boy later enlisted   understand that some places gave the boys options of going into the local militia instead of an industrial school if they were of a certan age and this i have found in my family too, i think most of the industrial schools were private and paid for by donation from the parishes where the children came from and from selling goods made by the children so there records, unless handed to the local records offices at some point, are probably still in the hands of the descendants of the owners or lost.   regards Elaine Westaway ________________________________ From: John redders <johnredders888@hotmail.com> To: Eng Lincs <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 2 April 2012, 14:09 Subject: [LIN] Pareents die leaving children as orphans On 3rd February 1866, John Walker Belding died in Newington, Surrey, and in December quarter of that same year, Mary Belding, his wife died, leaving 8 children as orphans. So what would happen to the children  if grandparents/family weren't able to care for them. I suppose it was the parish in where they were living at the time, or was it the parish in which they were born? According to the census of 1871, Prior Aylward Belding, born 1864 in Newington, Surrey was in an orphanage, the Spurgeon Orphanage in Clapham, his brother William born St Luke, Middlesex, was in an orphanage in Bristol, brother George born Boston, well I can't find him in 1871, the other children were in Boston. Where would I find records of such decisions, if there any? John Readman                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message