Victor, I (& "John" in the salutation) have come to the same conclusions - apart from the place of birth. Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [HOLMES to S. Africa as from mid 1890's]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Victor Markham Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2014 7:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Elizabeth (Eliza) RYLOTT b abt 1844 Gosberton John I have had another loom at the 1851 census image and it does say John was married and above all a Rail Labourer. So he is the right one. It is on piece HO107-2094_Fo-608_Page-17 he, along other rail labourers were lodging at Essendine. Presumably building the railway through Lincolnshire I will send you a copy of the piece separate in a moment The only difference between us is that I, and the census, have his birth at Billingborough whilst you have him as being Surfleeet (I think) Victor On 03/01/2014 11:27 PM, Peter HOLMES wrote: > Victor & Susan, > > I too tried Susan's suggestion of "negativising" the image and I also got > "Rail Road Labourer's Wife" > > I must have had a senior's moment regarding the bastardy reference as I > searched for Eliza rather than Ann hence I got John DAWSON! Ann's mother in > law, and sister in law were also called Eliza(beth). > > Regarding John, if he was boarding the landlord might have been giving the > info to the enumerator and though that JR was single. What age was the John > you found> > > Also on the subject of "John", I am Peter. (I sometimes say that John Holmes > was my little brother of movie fame). > > Peter Holmes