Hi Lou, your exclamations of the situation in Northern England and Lincolnshire in particular are quite something, but I cannot even find out what inflection attacked Langtoft, to cause the death of 4 of my relatives who were born there in the year 1852, from February to November. Bazza On 28 May 2014 22:39, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Missing Lincs, > > Yes, this is my new e-mail address. It is, so far, DMARC-proof, so my > LINCSGEN mail gets delivered to me here. > > I saw on another list that someone wondered why so many people moved > about the country in the early 1800s. Well, they didn't have smart phones, > apparently, so I guess they couldn't get all the answers by staying home! > Sorry, those of us who have followed a smart-phone user in the grocery > store know about the urge to smash a smart-phone between two cans of beans. > :-) > > No, the early 1800s were an interesting time. Blockades were used to > cut off supplies to Napoleon, and the blockades cut the supply of some > markets to our ancestors in Lincolnshire, too. When they were lifted about > 1815, suddenly we had an influx of cheap goods, and unemployed soldiers and > sailors. The "Irish Potato Famine" in 1840, also affected potato growers > in northern England and we had another influx of Irish labourers. The > first steam engine for commercial use was developed by James WATT in 1781 > and began to be widely used for farming, industry, draining the fens, etc. > One of my ancestors apparently was fascinated by the steam engine and > learned to drive a steam tractor. From there he got a job driving a steam > engine on the railroads, another new presence in the early 1800s. > > So we had a lot going on in northern England and it was a time for > some people to take advantage of the new jobs, others lost their jobs doue > to industrialization. The Luddites burned a lot of frame-work knitting > machines, even the ones run by hand or horsepower. There was some social > unrest because of ideas that had been around since the French and American > Revolutions and the government was committed to the idea of "one man, one > vote", which was new and dangerous in the eyes of some. Civil Registration > came along, an obvious plot by the government to many folk and a lot of > parish boundaries were "adjusted" to include areas that were outside their > boundaries. > > The first steamship was built in 1837 (the SS Sirius), which began > reliable service over the oceans. > > They must have been heady times. You could move somewhere else where > pay was better. You could take your trade somewhere where it was needed. > You could go to one of the new countreis were land was free (or at least > cheap), and own your own farm. Wow! It's actually a wonder more of them > didn't go. > > Lou (list admin.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It was cholera epidemic which rampaged through the entire country in the early 1850's. Elaine Westaway Hampshire UK Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

What does it say on their death certificates? Another good reason to send for one. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barry Wilson Sent: May 29, 2014 9:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. Note: Early 1800s Hi Lou, your exclamations of the situation in Northern England and Lincolnshire in particular are quite something, but I cannot even find out what inflection attacked Langtoft, to cause the death of 4 of my relatives who were born there in the year 1852, from February to November. Bazza On 28 May 2014 22:39, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Missing Lincs, > > Yes, this is my new e-mail address. It is, so far, DMARC-proof, > so my LINCSGEN mail gets delivered to me here. > > I saw on another list that someone wondered why so many people > moved about the country in the early 1800s. Well, they didn't have > smart phones, apparently, so I guess they couldn't get all the answers by staying home! > Sorry, those of us who have followed a smart-phone user in the > grocery store know about the urge to smash a smart-phone between two cans of beans. > :-) > > No, the early 1800s were an interesting time. Blockades were used > to cut off supplies to Napoleon, and the blockades cut the supply of > some markets to our ancestors in Lincolnshire, too. When they were > lifted about 1815, suddenly we had an influx of cheap goods, and > unemployed soldiers and sailors. The "Irish Potato Famine" in 1840, > also affected potato growers in northern England and we had another > influx of Irish labourers. The first steam engine for commercial use > was developed by James WATT in 1781 and began to be widely used for farming, industry, draining the fens, etc. > One of my ancestors apparently was fascinated by the steam engine and > learned to drive a steam tractor. From there he got a job driving a > steam engine on the railroads, another new presence in the early 1800s. > > So we had a lot going on in northern England and it was a time for > some people to take advantage of the new jobs, others lost their jobs > doue to industrialization. The Luddites burned a lot of frame-work > knitting machines, even the ones run by hand or horsepower. There was > some social unrest because of ideas that had been around since the > French and American Revolutions and the government was committed to > the idea of "one man, one vote", which was new and dangerous in the > eyes of some. Civil Registration came along, an obvious plot by the > government to many folk and a lot of parish boundaries were "adjusted" > to include areas that were outside their boundaries. > > The first steamship was built in 1837 (the SS Sirius), which began > reliable service over the oceans. > > They must have been heady times. You could move somewhere else > where pay was better. You could take your trade somewhere where it was needed. > You could go to one of the new countreis were land was free (or at > least cheap), and own your own farm. Wow! It's actually a wonder > more of them didn't go. > > Lou (list admin.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barry There may have been an epidemic of some sort but that does not mean your four all died from it or even from the same cause Even in times of plague, people died from other causes Without obtaining the death certificates (unless you are lucky and find mention in the newspapers) you are not going to know the actual cause, anything else is guesswork One thing worth checking is the burials as on occasion there might be a mention in the margin where a lot of people died of the same thing Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/05/2014 14:47, Barry Wilson wrote: > Hi Lou, your exclamations of the situation in Northern England and > Lincolnshire in particular are quite something, but I cannot even find out > what inflection attacked Langtoft, to cause the death of 4 of my relatives > who were born there in the year 1852, from February to November. Bazza