Hi Pat I too failed to find them after 1863 Neither appear to be in the Country in the later census Mary Ann HALL appears to have been born 1842, no fix on Charles The only Charles I found with a father James was born 1837 in Leicestershire but he is a Charles M and married to an Anne in 1871 Lancashire, she born Middlesex Did they emigrate perhaps, change of name? or did one or other die young What was Charles occupation and age on the 1863 marriage? and what was his fathers? unfortunately freereg doesn't record those Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 18/05/2014 08:05, [email protected] wrote: > Can someone help with my long standing brick wall please. Charles > James Grocock married Mary Ann Hall at Kirton Parish Church 14 May > 1863. I have been unable to find either of these people on any > census after this date. I know Mary Ann was born in Kirton, and I > think Charles was born Lincolnshire also. Any information on this > family would be most appreciated. Cheers, Pat