I quite agree Terry. Spent yrs looking for father of Jon'Baillie who was down as Secretary to Admiral Lord Gardener on his son's marriage certificate 1841, to eventually find him as Ship's Purser dying at see 1811! Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Terry Wells via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Date: To: 'BobJ' <rjngs@pearson30.karoo.co.uk>,eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] John BOYES- Dead or alive? Bob, In my experience whether a father is shown as deceased or not on an offspring's marriage certificate is not really a good indication of whether the person is actually deceased.  It seems to depend on what question was asked by the person performing the ceremony.  If the only question asked was "Name of Father?" then this is all you get.  If the fact that he was deceased is neither offered nor asked then you just get the name. Terry -----Original Message----- From: BobJ [mailto:rjngs@pearson30.karoo.co.uk] Sent: 29 March 2016 15:14 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] John BOYES- Dead or alive? I have a line back to Robert BOYES, bapt. 31 March 1827 at Gainsborough, son of John and Jane BOYES of Morton, father a sailor. John and Jane had 6 children bapt. at Gainsborough up to 1833. I cannot find any birth or bapt. of this John BOYES.   When Robert BOYES, b. 1827, married Jane HIRD 27 Nov. 1848 at Hull his father is John BOYES, deceased mariner.  Jane HIRD’s father is also ‘deceased mariner’. So there may have been some confusion here? In the 1851 Census of Hull/Sculcoates John’s son William, b. 1831 at Gainsborough, is living with Sarah Ann BOYES, b. 1833 at Gainsborough, daughter of Robert BOYES, b. 1794 at Gainsborough Workhouse.  This infers that John BOYES the Gainsborough mariner is brother to this Robert BOYES, b. 1794, bapt. 1797 age 2 ½  at Gainsborough Workhouse. 1850 marr. of William BOYES, b. 1831(brother of Robert BOYES b. 1827) father is John BOYES, mariner [not shown as deceased]. 1851 second marr. of Robert BOYES, b. 1827, father John BOYES, mariner [not shown as deceased]. 1864 marr. of John BOYES, b. 1833, father late John BOYES, mariner. John BOYES and his wife Jane appear to have avoided the Census of 1841 and 1851. The Death Cert. of John BOYES of 1855, age 63 a journeyman cooper, was, from 1851 Census, born at Walkington, East Yorks., a cooper and sloopman. Bob Jennings ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message