Hi Bruce Despite being enumerated as born York Ramsey I can find no place in Yorkshire similar to Ramsey On that score, the following is very useful <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html> Birthplaces for servants would more often be given by the butler or some senior servant where there were a lot of servants and the head of household in smaller houses, the details were written on the schedule by the person charged with the task, the enumerator collected the forms and copied them onto the pages we see online today So there is plenty of latitude for error to creep in, the butler may not have been bothered to check for a mere servant or misunderstood what the place name was, or the enumerator made an error in transcription, missing a line, etc etc In 1841 there is the following entry in Spilsby It does not help a great deal as in 1841 no exact birthplace is recorded, it should be either Y for Yes born in County where enumerated or N not born in County but in this case she is not noted with a birth Y or N so you would assume out of County So whilst it looks to be a good match for her in 1841, it doesn't lead to where she came from Name: Sarah Cabourn Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Female Civil Parish: Spilsby Hundred: East Bolingbroke Soke County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Spilsby Sub-registration district: Spilsby Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 644 Book: 18 Folio: 36 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Cabourn 15 William Rushby 14 Source Citation Class: HO107; Piece: 644; Book: 18; Civil Parish: Spilsby; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 36; Page: 37; Line: 25; GSU roll: 438768 Looking further there is a marriage for a Sarah CABORN in 1857 reg Spilsby Which shows she married either Samuel WILKINSON or Joseph EVISON There was no Sarah EVISON with a husband Joseph in 1861, but there was the following entry in 1861 Name: Sarah Wilkinson Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Samuel Wilkinson Gender: Female Where born: Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Old Sleaford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Sleaford ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 95 Piece: 2343 Folio: 73 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Wilkinson 30 Sarah Wilkinson 34 Sarah Wilkinson 1 Cancel Source Citation Class: RG 9; Piece: 2343; Folio: 73; Page: 20; GSU roll: 542957 And in 1871 Name: Sarah Wilkinson Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Samuel Wilkinson Gender: Female Where born: Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Old Sleaford Ecclesiastical parish: Lafford Town: Sleaford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Sleaford ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 56 Piece: 3350 Folio: 69 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Wilkinson 40 Sarah Wilkinson 42 Sarah Ann Wilkinson 11 Cancel Source Citation Class: RG10; Piece: 3350; Folio: 69; Page: 10; GSU roll: 839357 So in both cases she gave her birthplace as Sleaford Lincs Might it also hint that George "borrowed" his step fathers name to save face? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/02/2016 23:35, Bruce - Family History via wrote: > My thanks to Nivard Ovington and Edie for their responses to my query > (below). > I now have the birth certificate for George CARBONE from the only likely GRO > reference. > He was born on 10 Nov 1844 in the workhouse at Hundleby (Spilsby district) > of Sarah CARBONE; no father is shown. I wonder if "Samuel" was invented as a > father's name to add respectability to his marriage certificate; perhaps the > father was indeed a Samuel. > In the 1851 census Sarah CARBON was age 24, one of numerous servants at > Scrivelsby Court, Horncastle, with a birthplace recorded as Ramsey, > Yorkshire. Sadly, I can find no such place. > Nor have I yet found George (age about 6) in the 1851 census. > > Bruce Moffatt Collins --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus