Would he have been removed back to Hundleby workhouse where he was born. He wasnt initially at Skegness was he? It seems to me that his mother has left him as he wasnt with her in the 1851 census, according to your research Bruce. Though he was 8 in 1851 and we know he could have been working by that time. In 1845 though he was only a year old. Have you tried the Spilsby settlement certificates. I have one or two of those certificates, from when I was looking for my William Lane birth place. they tend to have the place they currently live in at the top in big letters and then it gives details of where they are hoping to settle. A removal I thought was when they send you back to your place of settlement as you cannot support yourself, so they dont want you to be a burden on the new place of settlement. These certificates are another good resource that is very underused even when they are available. Anne has said that there are not more Spilsby workhouse records, but I wonder if there are some from Spilsby, but not the workhouse. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Anne Cole via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Bruce, For some reason best known to himself George Cabourn was in Skegness but needed poor relief therefore an investigation would have been made into his settlement and he would have been removed to wherever that was found to be. I saw this entry but didn't connect it with your research (sorry!). Unfortunately some of the minutes are not too helpful. As there is nothing else in the Spilsby Union Workhouse collection that will help, you might try the overseers accounts for Skegness to see if he is mentioned there, that is if there are any. Unfortunately there are no removal orders or settlement examinations for Skegness. However, the parish to which he was removed, which we don't know, and assuming that he was removed, will have had a copy of all the documentation so it could have survived in another parish chest somewhere. I tried the Lindsey Quarter Sessions poor law material where there are several Cabo(u)rns but not as late as 1845. Neither were there any for around this date on the Settlement Examinations and Removal Orders CD although there were a few Caborns there too. What you need is a clue to his parish of settlement, in other words, where was he removed to from Skegness?? The latter CD does cover all the material currently available at Lincolnshire Archives. There did seem to be several Cabourns around Alford. It is remotely possible that the case may have ended up in court, in which case the Petty Sessions minute books, again if there are any for this date, could be useful. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bruce - Family History via Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:16 AM To: ENG-Lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Having found George CARBONE born in Hundleby Workhouse in November 1844 (mother Sarah, father=blank) I knew I wanted to access workhouse records to see what references there might be for him. I had in mind making the journey from Berkshire to the Archives in Lincoln, but to my delight found the Lincs FHS had published extracts from the Spilsby Union Workhouse, and what's more, the booklets were downloadable for a modest fee. Within minutes I found this: "24 April 1845. Ordered that the Clerk do write to the Overseer of Skegness to take the necessary steps to remove George Cabourn to his settlement. [Page 392]". This is the only mention I can find, so I wonder what he had to do with Skegness. Any hints as to what I might do next? Lastly, may I pay tribute to the LFHS transcribers whose dedicated work made this swift discovery possible - in this case Pat Pomeroy, Kathy Hancock & Anne Cole in 2011. Bruce Moffatt Collins Bracknell, Berkshire bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11604 - Release Date: 02/11/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11604 - Release Date: 02/11/16 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only settlement document for Spilsby parish is a book that contains a list of people who arrived by certificate, and it gives very little information. The list is included on the Settlement Certificates CD. 1844 is too late for settlement certificates, they begin to dry up about 1800. There are no other docs for Spilsby but there may be overseers accounts. It is very unlikely that so young a child would be removed anywhere unless it was boarded out, and 1844 is a bit too early for that. Boarding out officially begins in the 1860s. I personally don't think the reference to George Cabourn in the Spilsby Minutes are to this George. However, without more information there is just no way of knowing. Settlement certificates name two places, one is the person's place of legal settlement, which isn't necessarily where the person was living at the time, and the other is the place that the certificate is addressed to, which isn't necessarily where the person ended up. A certificate could be used several times and if the bearer didn't gain a new settlement where he went to live he could use the certificate again to go somewhere else. All this is explained on the CD - and on the Lincolnshire Genuki site. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eamca via Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:26 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com; duncalf@one-name.org Subject: Re: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Would he have been removed back to Hundleby workhouse where he was born. He wasnt initially at Skegness was he? It seems to me that his mother has left him as he wasnt with her in the 1851 census, according to your research Bruce. Though he was 8 in 1851 and we know he could have been working by that time. In 1845 though he was only a year old. Have you tried the Spilsby settlement certificates. I have one or two of those certificates, from when I was looking for my William Lane birth place. they tend to have the place they currently live in at the top in big letters and then it gives details of where they are hoping to settle. A removal I thought was when they send you back to your place of settlement as you cannot support yourself, so they dont want you to be a burden on the new place of settlement. These certificates are another good resource that is very underused even when they are available. Anne has said that there are not more Spilsby workhouse records, but I wonder if there are some from Spilsby, but not the workhouse. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Anne Cole via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Bruce, For some reason best known to himself George Cabourn was in Skegness but needed poor relief therefore an investigation would have been made into his settlement and he would have been removed to wherever that was found to be. I saw this entry but didn't connect it with your research (sorry!). Unfortunately some of the minutes are not too helpful. As there is nothing else in the Spilsby Union Workhouse collection that will help, you might try the overseers accounts for Skegness to see if he is mentioned there, that is if there are any. Unfortunately there are no removal orders or settlement examinations for Skegness. However, the parish to which he was removed, which we don't know, and assuming that he was removed, will have had a copy of all the documentation so it could have survived in another parish chest somewhere. I tried the Lindsey Quarter Sessions poor law material where there are several Cabo(u)rns but not as late as 1845. Neither were there any for around this date on the Settlement Examinations and Removal Orders CD although there were a few Caborns there too. What you need is a clue to his parish of settlement, in other words, where was he removed to from Skegness?? The latter CD does cover all the material currently available at Lincolnshire Archives. There did seem to be several Cabourns around Alford. It is remotely possible that the case may have ended up in court, in which case the Petty Sessions minute books, again if there are any for this date, could be useful. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bruce - Family History via Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:16 AM To: ENG-Lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Having found George CARBONE born in Hundleby Workhouse in November 1844 (mother Sarah, father=blank) I knew I wanted to access workhouse records to see what references there might be for him. I had in mind making the journey from Berkshire to the Archives in Lincoln, but to my delight found the Lincs FHS had published extracts from the Spilsby Union Workhouse, and what's more, the booklets were downloadable for a modest fee. Within minutes I found this: "24 April 1845. Ordered that the Clerk do write to the Overseer of Skegness to take the necessary steps to remove George Cabourn to his settlement. [Page 392]". This is the only mention I can find, so I wonder what he had to do with Skegness. Any hints as to what I might do next? Lastly, may I pay tribute to the LFHS transcribers whose dedicated work made this swift discovery possible - in this case Pat Pomeroy, Kathy Hancock & Anne Cole in 2011. Bruce Moffatt Collins Bracknell, Berkshire bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11604 - Release Date: 02/11/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11604 - Release Date: 02/11/16 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11604 - Release Date: 02/11/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11604 - Release Date: 02/11/16