Terry -  I have seen those trees. What I have for sure is that George Marion Bellamy married Matilda Gore about 1848 in England (believe it is Lincolnshire). They rode the immigrant ship "Jane" from Liverpool to New Orleans and arrived in Jan 1851. They had their sons James (b:1848), George (b:about 1849), William (b:about 1850) with them. George Marion is listed as Marriott on the manifest, probably a typo.William and his mother Matilda Bellamy died at sea. I have records of George Jr and can follow him, James seems to have disappeared, as I can find nothing after arrival in the US, perhaps he died at a young age or he moved on prior to the 1870 Census. George Marion Bellamy remarried to Lydia Palmer 19 Jul 1856. They had 6 children together. they were Charles, Mary, William, Granville, Samuel, and Anna. Granville and Samuel were twins. Granville is my gg-grandfather. Some people have listed George Marion Bellamy's death as 13 Jan 1910, but I believe he died prior to 1880, because the 1880 Census lists Lydia as a widow living with her nephew. My grandfather several years ago (Pre-internet), actually was the one that found that George Marion Bellamy was from Lincolnshire, it is possible that he was actually from somewhere else and moved to Lincolnshire, I am just really stuck on trying to find his parents. The LDS lists George Marion Bellamy as being born about 1828 Lincolnshire, England. He was listed as age 30 on the ship's manifest, this would put birthday about 1821. The 1870 Census lists his age as 52, this would make his birth year about 1818. All a lot of confusing information..... ________________________________ From: Terry Wells <terry.wells@talktalk.net> To: 'Scott Bellamy' <scottb992000@yahoo.com>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [LIN] George Bellamy Scott, Your George Marion BELLAMY appears in at least 4 Public Member Trees on Ancestry.  In all of them he is stated to have been born in 1818 and in two of them in Tickhill, Yorkshire, England.  Three of them have his spouse as Lydia Anne Palmer and one has Matilda Gore.  I have not studied these trees in any detail so do not know if there are any sources in any of them. George's parents are given variously as Joseph and Anne or Joseph and Unknown. Terry M Wells terry.wells@talktalk.net

Scott, To add to the confusion: If you do a FreeBMD search for Bellamy/Gore marriages you will find a Harriott Bellamy and a Matilda Gore at Huntingdon Dec Qtr 1846 (Vol XIV, Page 361). You would of course have to buy the certificate to be sure that these two of the seven (should be eight) on the page actually married. Huntingdon was also the RD for a James Edward in Mar ¼ 1848 and a George in Mar ¼ 1849. The nearest William was Sep ¼ 1852 which is after the emigration so doesn’t help. I really believe you should look into these in more detail as this is the only Matilda Gore marriage in the right time frame. Terry M Wells ________________________________________ From: Scott Bellamy [mailto:scottb992000@yahoo.com] Sent: 07 December 2011 16:38 To: Terry Wells; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] George Bellamy Terry - I have seen those trees. What I have for sure is that George Marion Bellamy married Matilda Gore about 1848 in England (believe it is Lincolnshire). They rode the immigrant ship "Jane" from Liverpool to New Orleans and arrived in Jan 1851. They had their sons James (b:1848), George (b:about 1849), William (b:about 1850) with them. George Marion is listed as Marriott on the manifest, probably a typo.William and his mother Matilda Bellamy died at sea. I have records of George Jr and can follow him, James seems to have disappeared, as I can find nothing after arrival in the US, perhaps he died at a young age or he moved on prior to the 1870 Census. George Marion Bellamy remarried to Lydia Palmer 19 Jul 1856. They had 6 children together. they were Charles, Mary, William, Granville, Samuel, and Anna. Granville and Samuel were twins. Granville is my gg-grandfather. Some people have listed George Marion Bellamy's death as 13 Jan 1910, but I believe he died prior to 1880, because t! he 1880 Census lists Lydia as a widow living with her nephew. My grandfather several years ago (Pre-internet), actually was the one that found that George Marion Bellamy was from Lincolnshire, it is possible that he was actually from somewhere else and moved to Lincolnshire, I am just really stuck on trying to find his parents. The LDS lists George Marion Bellamy as being born about 1828 Lincolnshire, England. He was listed as age 30 on the ship's manifest, this would put birthday about 1821. The 1870 Census lists his age as 52, this would make his birth year about 1818. All a lot of confusing information..... ________________________________________ From: Terry Wells <terry.wells@talktalk.net> To: 'Scott Bellamy' <scottb992000@yahoo.com>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [LIN] George Bellamy Scott, Your George Marion BELLAMY appears in at least 4 Public Member Trees on Ancestry. In all of them he is stated to have been born in 1818 and in two of them in Tickhill, Yorkshire, England. Three of them have his spouse as Lydia Anne Palmer and one has Matilda Gore. I have not studied these trees in any detail so do not know if there are any sources in any of them. George's parents are given variously as Joseph and Anne or Joseph and Unknown. Terry M Wells terry.wells@talktalk.net

Terry,  This is very interesting information. Definitely a lead worth following. Thank you. I am going to order the certificates and hopefully this might be the big break I was looking for. ________________________________ From: Terry Wells <terry.wells@talktalk.net> To: 'Scott Bellamy' <scottb992000@yahoo.com>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [LIN] George Bellamy Scott, To add to the confusion:  If you do a FreeBMD search for Bellamy/Gore marriages you will find a Harriott Bellamy and a Matilda Gore at Huntingdon Dec Qtr 1846 (Vol XIV, Page 361).  You would of course have to buy the certificate to be sure that these two of the seven (should be eight) on the page actually married.  Huntingdon was also the RD for a James Edward in Mar ¼ 1848 and a George in Mar ¼ 1849.  The nearest William was Sep ¼ 1852 which is after the emigration so doesn’t help.  I really believe you should look into these in more detail as this is the only Matilda Gore marriage in the right time frame. Terry M Wells ________________________________________ From: Scott Bellamy [mailto:scottb992000@yahoo.com] Sent: 07 December 2011 16:38 To: Terry Wells; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] George Bellamy Terry - I have seen those trees. What I have for sure is that George Marion Bellamy married Matilda Gore about 1848 in England (believe it is Lincolnshire). They rode the immigrant ship "Jane" from Liverpool to New Orleans and arrived in Jan 1851. They had their sons James (b:1848), George (b:about 1849), William (b:about 1850) with them. George Marion is listed as Marriott on the manifest, probably a typo.William and his mother Matilda Bellamy died at sea. I have records of George Jr and can follow him, James seems to have disappeared, as I can find nothing after arrival in the US, perhaps he died at a young age or he moved on prior to the 1870 Census. George Marion Bellamy remarried to Lydia Palmer 19 Jul 1856. They had 6 children together. they were Charles, Mary, William, Granville, Samuel, and Anna. Granville and Samuel were twins. Granville is my gg-grandfather. Some people have listed George Marion Bellamy's death as 13 Jan 1910, but I believe he died prior to 1880, because the 1880 Census lists Lydia as a widow living with her nephew. My grandfather several years ago (Pre-internet), actually was the one that found that George Marion Bellamy was from Lincolnshire, it is possible that he was actually from somewhere else and moved to Lincolnshire, I am just really stuck on trying to find his parents. The LDS lists George Marion Bellamy as being born about 1828 Lincolnshire, England. He was listed as age 30 on the ship's manifest, this would put birthday about 1821. The 1870 Census lists his age as 52, this would make his birth year about 1818. All a lot of confusing information..... ________________________________________ From: Terry Wells <terry.wells@talktalk.net> To: 'Scott Bellamy' <scottb992000@yahoo.com>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [LIN] George Bellamy Scott, Your George Marion BELLAMY appears in at least 4 Public Member Trees on Ancestry.  In all of them he is stated to have been born in 1818 and in two of them in Tickhill, Yorkshire, England.  Three of them have his spouse as Lydia Anne Palmer and one has Matilda Gore.  I have not studied these trees in any detail so do not know if there are any sources in any of them. George's parents are given variously as Joseph and Anne or Joseph and Unknown. Terry M Wells terry.wells@talktalk.net