There is a ship's manifest for a William Alcock convicted in Norfolk to Tasmania in 1841 on Ancestry. It has an interesting note that looks like he mighthave returned to England in 1846 as a third class passenger. Do you have access to those John? He might have been convicted and sent out twice or it might be two different men, might not be your at all, but sure worth a shot in the dark! Susan On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Joan Van Daalen <jvandaal@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Might he have been left something in a will? Joan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Bland" <johnbland@parkavenue36.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:17 PM > Subject: [LIN] Its official my 3x Great Grandfather is missing! > > >> Hello Listers, >> >> >> >> Now that British Newspaper Archive has gone live >> http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ , I have made are start on >> looking >> for snippets that appeared in the newspapers relating to members of my >> tree. >> >> >> >> I found this one in the Stamford Mercury relating to my 3x Great >> Grandfather >> John ALLCOCK who was born in Parson Drove in 1790 but last seen on the >> 1851 >> census in Whaplode Drove >> >> >> >> Friday 1 April 1870 (page 6 col 4) >> >> >> >> Any person who can give information as to the Residence and Address of >> John >> Allcock formerly of Whaplode Drove, in the county of Lincoln, Labourer (if >> living) or of his real Representative (if deceased), are requested to >> forward such information immediately to the undersigned. All reasonable >> expenses incurred will be paid. >> >> >> >> EDWARD COPEMAN, Solicitor, Holbeach. >> >> >> >> So if no one knew where he disappeared to 140 years ago, I suspect I am >> going to have even less of a chance of finding him now! >> >> >> >> The 1841 census shows John to be living in Whaplode Drove apparently >> estranged from his wife Hannah who was living at Parson Drove. In John's >> household were Susan Woodvine 40, an unmarried female and an apparent son >> James Allcock aged 6. Neither Susan or James were born in Lincolnshire >> leaving a possible conclusion that they were born in Parson Drove, >> Cambridgeshire. This apparent relationship may explain why John's wife was >> shown as an Ag Lab and Annuitant on the 1851 census, and why Hannah is >> buried at Parson Drove, with no mention of John on the Gravestone. I can >> find no trace of John after 1851. >> >> >> >> Any thoughts on why a Solicitor was looking for him? His wife Hannah died >> in >> 1861, so it has nothing to do with supporting her. As this was before the >> Married Woman's Property Act of 1872 her money would be his. If she had >> died >> whilst he was still alive what would the position have been in regards to >> any assets in her possession at the time she died? Would they become his >> by >> default even if no one knew where he had gone? >> >> >> >> The only other reason I can think of that a Solicitor would put a notice >> in >> a paper would be for unpaid debts, but offering to pay expenses seems >> generous if chasing a bad debt. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any information on Edward Copeman - I might respond to >> which ever firm took on his business. >> >> >> >> John R G Bland >> >> >> >> Spalding >> >> >> >> Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society >> www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ >> >> Reg. Charity No 1000724 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ah, I spoke too soon. There was indeed a transportation register in 1834 for William Alcock convicted at Holland at ancestry if you are interested. Susan
Not my 3xGGG Grandfather. It is after 1851 that he goes of the radar. Very conceivable that he died but if so he was not buried in Whaplode Drove or Parson Drove which are the favourites for him to be buried in. I do have a William who is elusive on census returns but as he was baptised in 1822 I think the 1834 transportation you refer to in your second post is unlikely. The Norfolk one could possibly be mine but given what I know about the families the Alcocks married into it seems unlikely. Certainly not enough to go chasing after it. John R G Bland Spalding Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ Reg. Charity No 1000724 > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Reynolds > Sent: 05 December 2011 01:14 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] Its official my 3x Great Grandfather is missing! > > > There is a ship's manifest for a William Alcock convicted in Norfolk > to Tasmania in 1841 on Ancestry. It has an interesting note that > looks like he mighthave returned to England in 1846 as a third class > passenger. Do you have access to those John? He might have been > convicted and sent out twice or it might be two different men, might > not be your at all, but sure worth a shot in the dark! > > Susan > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Joan Van Daalen <jvandaal@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > Might he have been left something in a will? Joan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Bland" <johnbland@parkavenue36.freeserve.co.uk> > > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:17 PM > > Subject: [LIN] Its official my 3x Great Grandfather is missing! > > > > > >> Hello Listers, > >> > >> > >> > >> Now that British Newspaper Archive has gone live > >> http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ , I have made are start on > >> looking > >> for snippets that appeared in the newspapers relating to members of my > >> tree. > >> > >> > >> > >> I found this one in the Stamford Mercury relating to my 3x Great > >> Grandfather > >> John ALLCOCK who was born in Parson Drove in 1790 but last seen on the > >> 1851 > >> census in Whaplode Drove > >> > >> > >> > >> Friday 1 April 1870 (page 6 col 4) > >> > >> > >> > >> Any person who can give information as to the Residence and Address of > >> John > >> Allcock formerly of Whaplode Drove, in the county of Lincoln, Labourer > (if > >> living) or of his real Representative (if deceased), are requested to > >> forward such information immediately to the undersigned. All reasonable > >> expenses incurred will be paid. > >> > >> > >> > >> EDWARD COPEMAN, Solicitor, Holbeach. > >> > >> > >> > >> So if no one knew where he disappeared to 140 years ago, I suspect I am > >> going to have even less of a chance of finding him now! > >> > >> > >> > >> The 1841 census shows John to be living in Whaplode Drove apparently > >> estranged from his wife Hannah who was living at Parson Drove. In > John's > >> household were Susan Woodvine 40, an unmarried female and an apparent > son > >> James Allcock aged 6. Neither Susan or James were born in Lincolnshire > >> leaving a possible conclusion that they were born in Parson Drove, > >> Cambridgeshire. This apparent relationship may explain why John's wife > was > >> shown as an Ag Lab and Annuitant on the 1851 census, and why Hannah is > >> buried at Parson Drove, with no mention of John on the Gravestone. I > can > >> find no trace of John after 1851. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any thoughts on why a Solicitor was looking for him? His wife Hannah > died > >> in > >> 1861, so it has nothing to do with supporting her. As this was before > the > >> Married Woman's Property Act of 1872 her money would be his. If she had > >> died > >> whilst he was still alive what would the position have been in regards > to > >> any assets in her possession at the time she died? Would they become > his > >> by > >> default even if no one knew where he had gone? > >> > >> > >> > >> The only other reason I can think of that a Solicitor would put a > notice > >> in > >> a paper would be for unpaid debts, but offering to pay expenses seems > >> generous if chasing a bad debt. > >> > >> > >> > >> Does anyone have any information on Edward Copeman - I might respond to > >> which ever firm took on his business. > >> > >> > >> > >> John R G Bland > >> > >> > >> > >> Spalding > >> > >> > >> > >> Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society > >> www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ > >> > >> Reg. Charity No 1000724 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message