Yes, census takers can get quite creative with first names. My great grandmother started with the first name Tryphena. Garbled versions of her name in censuses 1841 Trifina 1851 Tryphina 1861 Hyphena aged 26 1871 Trychisam aged 36 1881 Soyhine aged 46 1891 Josephina aged 55 1901Can only find "the other Tryphena Gardner," born in Berkshire and about one year older than mine. 1911 Tryphena 76 -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Blyth [mailto:gltrblyth@btconnect.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:31 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] PRETASIA christian name. I've come across the following Christian name in Little Steeping registers and am wondering if anyone can explain where it has come from. I can't find any biblical references. It seems particularly popular in Lincolnshire and Devon in the 16th and 17th centuries. I think Prothesia is probably the correct spelling. 1628 Prothasy 1648 Pretasia 1654 Suthosie 1661 Pretasia 1664 Prothasie 1665 Protasa 1667 Prothasy Regards Geoff

Hi, I am searching for any DUNCOMBE relatives descended from Harry DUNCOMBE born 1910 in the Lincoln area. Harry married Constance DOBLE in 1931 in Lincoln. Known children - Peter, Patricia, Paul and Cynthia. Thank you. Louise

Hi Louise, There arte active DUNCOMBE members of the Lincs FHS. I hope they get in touch. Don’t know if you arte a member of the LFHS. Happy hunting Richard Richard M Brown Sent from my iMac > On 11 Sep 2017, at 05:17, Louise Read <LouiseRead@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am searching for any DUNCOMBE relatives descended from Harry DUNCOMBE born > 1910 in the Lincoln area. Harry married Constance DOBLE in 1931 in Lincoln. > > Known children - Peter, Patricia, Paul and Cynthia. > > > > Thank you. > > Louise > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan Thanks for your reply. I also suffer from old age! Also I keep busy with all sorts of activities, leaving little time for family history. I just keep on the Lincs. and Leics. lists with very occasional contacts. Yes, my Williams were a bit later than the one you're seeking, but it doesn't hurt to contact people with the same name in the right area. Maybe one of us will find something Eureka, as you say. Regards Jan ________________________________ From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+oziepoms=live.com.au@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Joan Van Daalen <jvandaal@sympatico.ca> Sent: Saturday, 9 September 2017 7:53 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs Ancestors Hi Jan, Sorry I haven't answered you before, but I won't bore you with my excuses! My William SHARP(E) was probably born about 1780, so quite a bit earlier than what you show. As well, the old brain isn't quite working on all four cylinders any more, so I have a hard time sorting out all the SHARPEs. I don't expect any breakthroughs soon, but if you have a Eureka moment, please let this old girl know! Regards, Joan -----Original Message----- From: ENG-LINCSGEN [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces+jvandaal=sympatico.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Marchant Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:07 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs Ancestors Hi Joan I'm another of the SHARP(E) gang. Mine were in the same area and one of them has WATTAM as a Christian name. Here is a record: WEST KEAL BAPTISMS APR 1831 - OCT 1859 William SHARP s.o. Henry SHARP/Mary CURTIS Christened 22 Apr 1811 West Ashby 1831 Apr 23 - Charles s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener - Norma's ggrandfather 1833 Oct 20 - Elizabeth d.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP nee BRUNT of West Keal, gardener 1835 May 17 - Wattam s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener 1837 May 15 Mary Anne d.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener 1840 Jan 5 - Robert s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener 1842 Jul 17 - William s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener 1844 Oct 6 - Henry s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener - my ggrandfather 1847 May 16 John s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener Both of the above Williams are rather late to be yours but could well be the same family. Here's some earlier stuff: Henry SHARP born abt 8 November 1767 West Ashby, Lincs. Father of Henry was Robert SHARP born 1737 (or 1767) who married Mary SHARP nee HOLDEN, born 1791 in Spigster? Marriage 8 April 1760 at West Ashby Henry SHARP married Mary CURTIS 28 November 1797 West Ashby Henry SHARP died in Horncastle Union Workhouse in February 1853 aged 86 - being looked after for his family, who claimed his body after his death. Mary CURTIS born 6 October 1776 Horncastle or Tattershall? Mary married Henry SHARP on 28 November 1797 West Ashby Alicia SHARP bn West Ashby 11.11.1798 Thomas SHARP bn West Ashby 28.10.1799 Mary SHARP bn 19.3.1773 - at West Ashby? Mary SHARP bn 22.9.1776 - at West Ashby? Robert SHARP bn West Ashby 1802 John SHARP bn West Ashby 1806 married Susannah Dixon 13 August 1839 at Leake, Lincs. d 1881 No William above but maybe more research into these will produce him. Kind regards Jan Marchant, Australia ________________________________ From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+oziepoms=live.com.au@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Joan Van Daalen <jvandaal@sympatico.ca> Sent: Monday, 3 July 2017 9:55 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs Ancestors I haven't been involved in this thread before, but I have a William SHARP who married Ann Wattam, don't know where. Ann born 14 May 1786 in Kirton in Lindsey, dtr of George and Faith WATTAM. They had four children born in West Ashby from 1804 to 1817. That's all I have, except the spouses if you are interested. Joan Van Daalen Elora, Canada. -----Original Message----- From: ENG-LINCSGEN [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces+jvandaal=sympatico.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 5:10 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs Ancestors Hi Bazza Excuse my butting in but I think we all have danced around this "SHARP/SHARPE" tree a few times on this list. My :"SHARP" contender is a Thomas SHARP who married 15 May 1756, Rachael Kerlew at Spalding, living and having children at Pincheck . ...would love to know Thomas Sharp's parents and where they were from. Fay and I are connected through Pinchbeck Plowrights. Thanks, Linda B.C. Canada Hi Fay, maybe you should talk to Jan in NSW about your Sharp family, you never know what might turn up. Bazza On 2 July 2017 at 08:27, Fay <lekahfay@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > My paternal Ancestors are. > > SHARP. - Dorrington, Blankney, Pinchbeck, Spalding Boston and Holland > Fen PECK . > PLOWRIGHT - Pinchbeck. > > There are more but am working on these at present. > > Thanks in advance > Fay Fraser > Queensland...Australia > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, Sorry I haven't answered you before, but I won't bore you with my excuses! My William SHARP(E) was probably born about 1780, so quite a bit earlier than what you show. As well, the old brain isn't quite working on all four cylinders any more, so I have a hard time sorting out all the SHARPEs. I don't expect any breakthroughs soon, but if you have a Eureka moment, please let this old girl know! Regards, Joan -----Original Message----- From: ENG-LINCSGEN [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces+jvandaal=sympatico.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Marchant Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:07 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs Ancestors Hi Joan I'm another of the SHARP(E) gang. Mine were in the same area and one of them has WATTAM as a Christian name. Here is a record: WEST KEAL BAPTISMS APR 1831 - OCT 1859 William SHARP s.o. Henry SHARP/Mary CURTIS Christened 22 Apr 1811 West Ashby 1831 Apr 23 - Charles s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener - Norma's ggrandfather 1833 Oct 20 - Elizabeth d.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP nee BRUNT of West Keal, gardener 1835 May 17 - Wattam s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener 1837 May 15 Mary Anne d.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener 1840 Jan 5 - Robert s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener 1842 Jul 17 - William s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener 1844 Oct 6 - Henry s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener - my ggrandfather 1847 May 16 John s.o. Robert/Rebecca SHARP of West Keal, gardener Both of the above Williams are rather late to be yours but could well be the same family. Here's some earlier stuff: Henry SHARP born abt 8 November 1767 West Ashby, Lincs. Father of Henry was Robert SHARP born 1737 (or 1767) who married Mary SHARP nee HOLDEN, born 1791 in Spigster? Marriage 8 April 1760 at West Ashby Henry SHARP married Mary CURTIS 28 November 1797 West Ashby Henry SHARP died in Horncastle Union Workhouse in February 1853 aged 86 - being looked after for his family, who claimed his body after his death. Mary CURTIS born 6 October 1776 Horncastle or Tattershall? Mary married Henry SHARP on 28 November 1797 West Ashby Alicia SHARP bn West Ashby 11.11.1798 Thomas SHARP bn West Ashby 28.10.1799 Mary SHARP bn 19.3.1773 - at West Ashby? Mary SHARP bn 22.9.1776 - at West Ashby? Robert SHARP bn West Ashby 1802 John SHARP bn West Ashby 1806 married Susannah Dixon 13 August 1839 at Leake, Lincs. d 1881 No William above but maybe more research into these will produce him. Kind regards Jan Marchant, Australia ________________________________ From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+oziepoms=live.com.au@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Joan Van Daalen <jvandaal@sympatico.ca> Sent: Monday, 3 July 2017 9:55 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs Ancestors I haven't been involved in this thread before, but I have a William SHARP who married Ann Wattam, don't know where. Ann born 14 May 1786 in Kirton in Lindsey, dtr of George and Faith WATTAM. They had four children born in West Ashby from 1804 to 1817. That's all I have, except the spouses if you are interested. Joan Van Daalen Elora, Canada. -----Original Message----- From: ENG-LINCSGEN [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces+jvandaal=sympatico.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 5:10 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs Ancestors Hi Bazza Excuse my butting in but I think we all have danced around this "SHARP/SHARPE" tree a few times on this list. My :"SHARP" contender is a Thomas SHARP who married 15 May 1756, Rachael Kerlew at Spalding, living and having children at Pincheck . ...would love to know Thomas Sharp's parents and where they were from. Fay and I are connected through Pinchbeck Plowrights. Thanks, Linda B.C. Canada Hi Fay, maybe you should talk to Jan in NSW about your Sharp family, you never know what might turn up. Bazza On 2 July 2017 at 08:27, Fay <lekahfay@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > My paternal Ancestors are. > > SHARP. - Dorrington, Blankney, Pinchbeck, Spalding Boston and Holland > Fen PECK . > PLOWRIGHT - Pinchbeck. > > There are more but am working on these at present. > > Thanks in advance > Fay Fraser > Queensland...Australia > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lou / list, My 4th great grandparents (Anne Louise D'Esterre and Maj Gen Lambert Richard Loveday were married on St Helena in 1804. So far I have no clue what they were doing on St Helena, but given her husbands own military position and the fact that her cousin was Admiral Henry D'Esterre Darby was commander of HMS Bellerophon at the battle of the Nile (just before the vessel took Napoleon on board) begs for further investigation. I'd bet there is some juicy findings to be had. The above (my paternal line) have no connection to Lincolnshire, but my mother whose family come from the Fens and Dykes near Kirton does and she always cites that she married well, but we joke that it cant have been too well if the line still ended up being "transported" to Australia 170 years ago. Regards Martyn in Sydney Australia ________________________________ From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+martyn_s28=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com <eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 5:00 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-LINCSGEN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 238 Send ENG-LINCSGEN mailing list submissions to eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/eng-lincsgen ENG-LINCSGEN Info Page - lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com<http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/eng-lincsgen> lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the ENG-LINCSGEN Archives. Using ENG-LINCSGEN: To post a message to all the list members ... or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at eng-lincsgen-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ENG-LINCSGEN digest..."

My John Wishlade's story, Mary Wood my 2nd great grandmother, 1st married John Wishlade, 05 April 1807 in Eastborough, Sussex. John was a bricklayer military artificer with the Royal Sappers and Miners (formerly the Royal Military Artificers, they changed the name in 1812). The British Regiment on Campaign 1808- 1815 ... 1793-1815: Royal Engineers/Royal Sappers and Miners', My ongoing question has been, "When did John Wishlade die". The RMA Chelsea records for two of their daughters, Louisa and Mary Wishlaid (spelling variation in these records) show Mary was admitted Feb 1819 (aged 8) and Louisa April 1819 (aged 5 yr 9 months). I'm guessing the girls landed up there because their father John Wishlade was dead! There is a record for 1821 (head count) that has a "D" in the column for data on Father, that I think might mean "Deceased". Sometime after 24 Jun 1813, when their third daughter Louisa was born in Eastbourne, and Mary's husband John's death, Mary moved to Deeping Fen. A pregnant Mary found work as a housekeeper in the home of my Edward Hooton. Baby Edward was born 20 Aug 1815 in Deeping Fen ... This child appears at first glance to be the first son of Mary and her new man. Baby Edward's records say born August 20, 1815 but baptized September 13, 1818 at The Priory Church, Deeping St. James, Lincolnshire, England. His baptismal record names Edward and Mary Hooton as Edward's parents. However, a fellow researcher's "passed down family notes" place Edward last child in Mary's 1st family making John Wishlade his father. Since the Wishlade children did not enter into the RMA's care until 1819, the assumption must be that he died between Mary's conceiving of Young Edward and the girl's being placed in school in 1819. All sorts of possibilities as to why they were sent to the RMA. Son Edward's records say born August 20, 1815 but baptized September 13, 1818 at The Priory Church, Deeping St. James, Lincolnshire, England. His baptismal record names Edward and Mary Hooton as Edward's parents...but.... My thought is that John Wishlade died abt. 1815 perhaps in battle (Waterloo?) leaving a pregnant wife (baby Edward) but I have not been able to find John's death or burial record. After Mr. Wishlade's death, Mary, alone and responsible for providing for herself and her children moved in with Edward Hooton at Deeping Fen and proceeded to have a second family with him. Their first child named John Wishlade Hooton was born 01 Dec 1819 at Deeping. John & Mary's children's RMA Record: Mary Wishlade daughter of John & Mary Feb 24th 1811 Louisa Wishlade daughter of John & Mary (Militia Artificer) Jul 18th 1813 Children were admitted to the school if their fathers were killed, or were sent overseas, or the mother died or had hardship raising other children. Only the legitimate offspring were admitted and parents had to apply and provide marriage and baptism records, and the soldier had to have an excellent record. If we are right in thinking this is when John Wishlade died, why were only Mary and Louisa admitted, why not Elizabeth or Edward?? It may be their age perhaps, but there are other children at the school admitted aged 11 and 4! John & Mary's 1st child: Eliz Patience Wishdale (spelt wrong) daughter John And Mary Feb 28th 1808. Perhaps she was old enough to go into service and take care of herself and as for baby Edward born into the new Deeping Fen home. It appears he was smuggled in ...baptized into belonging to Mary's new Hooton family. Edward and Mary proceeded together to add 6 more children to their family. Adding to the mystery was the discovery that Edward & Mary didn't marry until 19 Feb 1862 at Old Church, St. Pancras, London, Middlesex, England. This late marriage makes one wonder if all those years John Wishlade was alive and still legally Mary's husband? Hi, Missing Lincs, I was surprised to read last week that after losing the Battle of Waterloo in 1815, he spent his final years as a captive on St. Helena Island. Well, that part I already knew, but I didn't know that the British assigned 2,800 soldiers to prevent his escape and sent 11 ships to constantly patrol the seas around the island. The ships were probably, for the most part, small, fast and lightly armed, but I'm estimating that they would have about 550 men, in total added to the force. I've got to wonder: Did you have an ancestor who was stationed to keep for former Emperor in place? The report I read did not give the names of any of the military units, but there might be a bit of oral family history passed down to you. Along the lines of "Great Uncle Thaddeus used to see Napoleon on St. Helena." Or, for all I know, your family may lay claim that one of their's captured Mr. Bonaparte. What have you got? Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bazza, You can always check in the archives to see if you have any missing posts: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-LINCSGEN Terry -----Original Message----- From: Barry Wilson [mailto:bazwilly53@gmail.com] Sent: 25 August 2017 14:48 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Missing Linc Hi there Lou, for what it is worth, I still do not seem to be getting a lot of the communications from lincs-gen, as what i do get seems to be very disjointed, and impossible to follow. Sorry about that Lou,,but it is nice to be in the loop, so to speak. regards to all the listers. bazza. ( barry Wilson Lincoln )

Hi there Lou, for what it is worth, I still do not seem to be getting a lot of the communications from lincs-gen, as what i do get seems to be very disjointed, and impossible to follow. Sorry about that Lou,,but it is nice to be in the loop, so to speak. regards to all the listers. bazza. ( barry Wilson Lincoln ) On 24 August 2017 at 11:22, Bryan Duffin <bryan.duffin@bigpond.com> wrote: > David, > > Thanks so much for solving this one! > > Although I was familiar with Holmes and the others before > him, I did not think he would have taken an additional christian name. > > Holmes was his mothers maiden name but perhaps he wanted > something more personal. > > It is a tragic outcome for him but I think not fatal. I > think he married in 1876 Mary Ann from Wilsford and went to > Stockton-on-Tees where he fathered six children and died in 1926. > > Thanks again for your valuable help, > > Bryan ( an ex of Nottingham Uni ) > > > On 23 Aug 2017, at 12:55 am, David Meredith <david.meredith@live.co.uk> > wrote: > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > Kelby was a hamlet within Heydour. > > > > John DUFFIN, a cottager of Kelby and his wife Jane had a son Holmes > DUFFIN bapt. at Heydour, 25 Apr 1852 - perhaps the addition of Richard was > an after thought? > > > > Heydour & Calthorpe Bapt. Register - 1852 - Page 90, Entry No. 715 > > > > David Meredith > > Nottingham > > > > ________________________________ > > From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+david.meredith= > live.co.uk@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Bryan Duffin < > bryan.duffin@bigpond.com> > > Sent: 22 August 2017 11:08 > > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [LIN] Missing Linc > > > > > > Hi all the super sleuths! I have a missing person. > > > > He is Richard DUFFIN who at the 1871 Census was aged 19 born in Kelby , > Lincs and was a general servant to a Baker in Sleaford. > > > > I cannot find him in the earlier Census or in any later ones. So I > cannot find any birth or baptism records. Unknown parents. > > > > What happened to him? Did he emigrate? Join the Navy? Or > something tragic? > > > > Your thoughts would be most helpful. > > > > Thanks, > > Bryan > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

David, Thanks so much for solving this one! Although I was familiar with Holmes and the others before him, I did not think he would have taken an additional christian name. Holmes was his mothers maiden name but perhaps he wanted something more personal. It is a tragic outcome for him but I think not fatal. I think he married in 1876 Mary Ann from Wilsford and went to Stockton-on-Tees where he fathered six children and died in 1926. Thanks again for your valuable help, Bryan ( an ex of Nottingham Uni ) > On 23 Aug 2017, at 12:55 am, David Meredith <david.meredith@live.co.uk> wrote: > > > Bryan, > > Kelby was a hamlet within Heydour. > > John DUFFIN, a cottager of Kelby and his wife Jane had a son Holmes DUFFIN bapt. at Heydour, 25 Apr 1852 - perhaps the addition of Richard was an after thought? > > Heydour & Calthorpe Bapt. Register - 1852 - Page 90, Entry No. 715 > > David Meredith > Nottingham > > ________________________________ > From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+david.meredith=live.co.uk@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Bryan Duffin <bryan.duffin@bigpond.com> > Sent: 22 August 2017 11:08 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Missing Linc > > > Hi all the super sleuths! I have a missing person. > > He is Richard DUFFIN who at the 1871 Census was aged 19 born in Kelby , Lincs and was a general servant to a Baker in Sleaford. > > I cannot find him in the earlier Census or in any later ones. So I cannot find any birth or baptism records. Unknown parents. > > What happened to him? Did he emigrate? Join the Navy? Or something tragic? > > Your thoughts would be most helpful. > > Thanks, > Bryan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not sure that I would agree with the statement that " Our ancestors were not very liberal in their attitudes". In fact in the 18th century the UK theatre was flourishing as can be seen in this article from the V&A Museum: www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/0-9/18th-century-theatre/ I think what you will find is that a large number of the more puritanical members of society departed for the colonies not only from the UK but also from Europe Indeed the USA still has communities like the Amish who carry on their non-liberal traditions to the present day. Terry -----Original Message----- From: lr_mills@mauimail.com [mailto:lr_mills@mauimail.com] Sent: 23 August 2017 19:05 To: Lincs List Subject: [LIN] Admin note: More Thespians Hi, Missing Lincs, On the 22nd of August, 1749, a troupe of English actors gave a performance of "Cato" by Joseph ADDISON in the colonial ton of Philadelphia. The colonists considered actors and acting an immorality, so they had the troupe arrested. After their release, the troupe relocated to New York city, a town considered friendlier toward theatrics. I was not surprised by this bit of history. I could even see it happening in Boston or Grimsby. Our ancestors were not very liberal in their attitudes. So if you get a chance to go back in time, keep that in mind. I'd hate to see your name in the old court papers. Of oourse, I hate to see some of my current friends listed in the current newspapers. Alas, it is usually in the Obituary column. Lou

Hi, Missing Lincs, On the 22nd of August, 1749, a troupe of English actors gave a performance of "Cato" by Joseph ADDISON in the colonial ton of Philadelphia. The colonists considered actors and acting an immorality, so they had the troupe arrested. After their release, the troupe relocated to New York city, a town considered friendlier toward theatrics. I was not surprised by this bit of history. I could even see it happening in Boston or Grimsby. Our ancestors were not very liberal in their attitudes. So if you get a chance to go back in time, keep that in mind. I'd hate to see your name in the old court papers. Of oourse, I hate to see some of my current friends listed in the current newspapers. Alas, it is usually in the Obituary column. Lou

Hi all the super sleuths! I have a missing person. He is Richard DUFFIN who at the 1871 Census was aged 19 born in Kelby , Lincs and was a general servant to a Baker in Sleaford. I cannot find him in the earlier Census or in any later ones. So I cannot find any birth or baptism records. Unknown parents. What happened to him? Did he emigrate? Join the Navy? Or something tragic? Your thoughts would be most helpful. Thanks, Bryan

Holmes DUFFIN (without the Richard) son of John and Jane DUFFIN of Kelby was baptised on 25 April 1852 at Heydour cum Kelby. They had a previous son named Holmes baptised in 1848 so I assume this one died. Most if not all of the baptism register entries for this couple seem to have Thomas & Jane with Thomas crossed out and John written in. There are 28 DUFFIN baptisms in Heydour cum Kelby from the late 1700s to late 1800s but you probably know that. Kelby was a hamlet of Heydour at this time. Terry Wells -----Original Message----- From: David Meredith [mailto:david.meredith@live.co.uk] Sent: 22 August 2017 15:37 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Missing Linc Not a happy tale Bryan.....   >From the Stamford Mercury, 10 November 1871: Under 'Accidents': 'On Tuesday morning a young man named Richard Holmes DUFFIN, of Kelby, employed at Mr. ALMOND's mill in South-street, whilst fixing a strap on one of the wheels which was in motion, was caught by the machinery.  One of his hands and part of the fore-arm was taken off, leaving about three inches of the bone protruding.   Mr. Jacobson attend the poor fellow at once, and amputated the remaining portion of the arm.' David Meredith Nottingham From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+david.meredith=live.co.uk@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Bryan Duffin <bryan.duffin@bigpond.com> Sent: 22 August 2017 11:08 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Missing Linc   Hi all the super sleuths!    I have a missing person. He is Richard DUFFIN who at the 1871 Census was aged 19 born in Kelby , Lincs and was a general servant to a Baker in Sleaford. I cannot find him in the earlier Census or in any later ones.   So I cannot find any birth or baptism records.    Unknown parents.      What happened to him?    Did he emigrate?    Join the Navy?     Or something tragic?           Your thoughts would be most helpful.               Thanks,                                 Bryan  

Bryan, Kelby was a hamlet within Heydour. John DUFFIN, a cottager of Kelby and his wife Jane had a son Holmes DUFFIN bapt. at Heydour, 25 Apr 1852 - perhaps the addition of Richard was an after thought? Heydour & Calthorpe Bapt. Register - 1852 - Page 90, Entry No. 715 David Meredith Nottingham ________________________________ From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+david.meredith=live.co.uk@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Bryan Duffin <bryan.duffin@bigpond.com> Sent: 22 August 2017 11:08 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Missing Linc Hi all the super sleuths! I have a missing person. He is Richard DUFFIN who at the 1871 Census was aged 19 born in Kelby , Lincs and was a general servant to a Baker in Sleaford. I cannot find him in the earlier Census or in any later ones. So I cannot find any birth or baptism records. Unknown parents. What happened to him? Did he emigrate? Join the Navy? Or something tragic? Your thoughts would be most helpful. Thanks, Bryan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not a happy tale Bryan.....   >From the Stamford Mercury, 10 November 1871: Under 'Accidents': 'On Tuesday morning a young man named Richard Holmes DUFFIN, of Kelby, employed at Mr. ALMOND's mill in South-street, whilst fixing a strap on one of the wheels which was in motion, was caught by the machinery.  One of his hands and part of the fore-arm was taken off, leaving about three inches of the bone protruding.   Mr. Jacobson attend the poor fellow at once, and amputated the remaining portion of the arm.' David Meredith Nottingham From: ENG-LINCSGEN <eng-lincsgen-bounces+david.meredith=live.co.uk@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Bryan Duffin <bryan.duffin@bigpond.com> Sent: 22 August 2017 11:08 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Missing Linc   Hi all the super sleuths!    I have a missing person. He is Richard DUFFIN who at the 1871 Census was aged 19 born in Kelby , Lincs and was a general servant to a Baker in Sleaford. I cannot find him in the earlier Census or in any later ones.   So I cannot find any birth or baptism records.    Unknown parents.      What happened to him?    Did he emigrate?    Join the Navy?     Or something tragic?           Your thoughts would be most helpful.               Thanks,                                 Bryan  

You ask about people who guarded Napoleon while he was on St. Helena. I have a distant (and non-Lincolnshire) relative by marriage who was daughter of one Lt. Nicholas Chapman of the Royal Navy. A rather rambling history of the Heaven family into which she married (and from which I am descended) was originally difficult to transcribe in some places, hence question-marks, but it notes: "Nicholas Chapman was on the guardship Northumberland at St. Helena during the residence of Napoleon Bonaparte and we have one of the silver plates the Emperor used to use, his generals scarf and his tea caddy, besides a table work box made of the wood of the ships cabin he used when the ?? Bellerophon---?? Northumberland was dismantled." Whether these items were given by Napoleon, or "otherwise acquired" I have no idea, nor do I know where they might be now, having lost touch with that branch of the family. Diana Robinson -----Original Message----- From: ENG-LINCSGEN [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces+drobins6=rochester.rr.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:37 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-LINCSGEN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 232 Send ENG-LINCSGEN mailing list submissions to eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/eng-lincsgen or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at eng-lincsgen-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ENG-LINCSGEN digest..."

My 3 gt. grandfather was a Sergeant Farrier in the Royal Horse Artillery. On 26th May 1815 they landed at Ostende in Belgium and proceeded to Waterloo. In the Battle of Waterloo on 18th June 1815 he was in Major Bull’s ’I’ Troop of howitzers. After the defeat of Napolean the RHA proceeded to Paris as the Army of Occupation and remained there until October 1816. Presumably keeping an eye on Napoleon’s colleagues. Bob Jennings.

Hi Karen According to LincsToThePast: Coningsby Primitive Methodist Chapel  Reference Name Meth/C/Coningsby, Primitive The first Primitive Methodist chapel was built on Silver Street at its junction with Sykes Lane in 1825. It was replaced by a new chapel on the same site c. 1853/54, which closed in 1934. The chapel was in the following circuits at the dates indicated: Lincoln Primitive Methodist Circuit 1825-1837 Horncastle Primitive Methodist Circuit 1837-1933 Coningsby Methodist Circuit 1933-1934 AND Coningsby Moorside Chapel (Wesleyan Methodist)  Reference Name Meth/C/Coningsby Moorside The chapel was built in 1842 and closed in 1986. The chapel was in the following circuits at the dates indicated: Spilsby Wesleyan Methodist Circuit 1842-1844 Coningsby Wesleyan Methodist Circuit 1844-1932 Coningsby Methodist Circuit 1932-1986 I don't see anything dating back to 1808 Terry -----Original Message----- From: KAREN GLASS [mailto:kglass18@mac.com] Sent: 21 August 2017 20:21 To: Lincolnshire mailList Subject: [LIN] Methodist Church Records in Coningsby Hi list, I am trying to find an image of William Lill's 1808 baptism. I don't see him in Coningsby parish records and was wondering if he could be in the Methodist records. I'm here in Salt Lake City at the Family History Library and their film for the Methodist church starts about 30 years later than I need. I would love to have an image of that baptism. Could anyone help me out?

Hi Karen Some of my family in Lincs were Methodist, so I've been round this! It's my understanding that from roughly 1784, when the system was formalised, Methodist chapels didn't conduct marriage ceremonies until after 1837 when the system of registry offices was set up. At that point a registry official could attend the chapel and marriages could be performed in his presence, but before that it was the parish church for everyone.... There is a Methodist General Registry which was set up in 1818 but that was to record baptisms. There are few records prior to 1784, and most are held at John Rylands Library in Manchester, but at a quick glance, there are no Coningsby records. You may have more luck- this is the link to the catalogue search. http://www.library.manchester.ac.uk/search-resources/guide-to-special-collections/methodist/methodist-archives-collection-catalogue/ The Lincolnshire Archives does have Coningsby records from 3 different chapels but that doesn't seem to include registers except from 1846. Susan may be right and the local chapel(s) have kept their records, but many have closed or merged and all were advised, according to my family, to pass on records at that point to their local archives, or to the circuit, which I'm pretty sure would be Boston. Good luck finding the records Margaret On 22/08/2017 01:41, KAREN GLASS wrote: Thank you. This helps a lot. I am just guessing he wasn't C of E. I will check with the Methodist church in Coningsby. Thanks for the explanation. Regards Karen Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Susan Reynolds <s3js9938@gmail.com><mailto:s3js9938@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Karen! I think the difficulty may not be that your William LILL is in the non-Conformist registers, but rather the following statement in the Coningsby register dated 15 Oct 1816 (immediately following entries from 29 Dec 1807): "The following entries are made in consequence of several years (from the year 1807 to 1813)[ dates are double underscored, SER] being cut out of the registers. They are copied down from documents in the jurisdiction of their respective Families. Chas Roberts [or Reberts], Curate." Unless there is information in the BTs or documents held by other family members, I suspect you are unlikely to find his baptismal entry. If you are sure the family attended the Methodist Church, I would contact the current administration at that location to see what records they have on hand or whether they sent them off elsewhere and where that might be. The Methodists - like The Salvation Army that came from the Methodist New Connexion - are rabid record keepers. There's no telling what they have on hand! I had to clean out and revise roll books that had people 140 years old in them, still shown as living, active soldiers! Regards, Susan Reynolds Kentucky USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message