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Hi Bart There are 5 Markhams baptised at Louth Wesleyan Church between 1830-1845, but not those names.  4 of them however,  are the children of Thomas and Hannah..  Elizabeth baptised 26th December 1841 in Louth St James  and Benjamin in Boston St Botolph on 14th June 1841, are  not the right parents- so you can exclude them. All on Free REG. Margaret On 14/06/2018 11:03, Bart Simon wrote: > Hello: I am looking for the bp dates for the following sisters: Parents: > Thomas and Hannah (Ward) Markham: > > 1. Emily Markham bp:c.1838 Q3 Louth. Probably the Wesleyan or St. James > Churches, in that order. > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NH5-VPX > 2. Elizabeth Ward Markham bp:c.1840 Q4 Louth. > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NS2-4DD > Brother of the above: > 3. Benjamin Markham bp:01-04-1841 South Silverlin?, Louth. > (South Silverlin?; South Lincoln?; Louth Lincoln?), Louth. > I need to know exactly which church he was baptized in. Probably the > Wesleyan or St. James Churches, in that order. > > Thanks - Bart..... > ============= > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Hello: I am looking for the bp dates for the following sisters: Parents: Thomas and Hannah (Ward) Markham: 1. Emily Markham bp:c.1838 Q3 Louth. Probably the Wesleyan or St. James Churches, in that order. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NH5-VPX 2. Elizabeth Ward Markham bp:c.1840 Q4 Louth. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NS2-4DD Brother of the above: 3. Benjamin Markham bp:01-04-1841 South Silverlin?, Louth. (South Silverlin?; South Lincoln?; Louth Lincoln?), Louth. I need to know exactly which church he was baptized in. Probably the Wesleyan or St. James Churches, in that order. Thanks - Bart..... =============

Hello Kate, Yes, there are lots of lists in the Holland Quarter Sessions, from 1793 to about 1819, which cover the south east of Lincolnshire (Spalding, Holbeach etc.). We are gradually transcribing them and putting the transcriptions on the Members Only area of the Lincolnshire FHS website. There are two there already. These can only be accessed if you are a member of the Lincolnshire FHS. There are no plans to publish them more widely. Lincolnshire was a very agricultural county. There was one coal mine that I know of, in Woodhall, but that was shortlived and produced no coal. Instead of coal a spring was found and the famous spa was developed on the same site. There were many ironstone mines in the north of the county but I have never seen a list from that area. Hiring fairs, or statutes, were held principally in late April, but also in October. The lists for October are far smaller than those for April as Old May Day (12th May) was the traditional time for servants to begin their annual service in Lincolnshire, hence so many weddings around the 12th May. This was also known as "pag rag day", the day the servants packed their bags and moved on to a new service. Unfortunately I haven't come across a list yet that gives details of the jobs that those being hired were to do, but most would have been agricultural labourers, house and farm servants, shepherds, cowmen etc. "Labourer" covers a large number of jobs both menial and more skilled. There were some confined labourers (married men) on the lists as there are notes here and there that a cow or a pig was included in the wages. The lists mainly give the name of the master, where he/she resided, servants' names, the earnest money given and their wages, although one or two of the lists do not give this much information. Some lists also include the name and residence of the servant's previous master or mistress, sometimes in another county, which is not surprising as this area borders on Cambridgeshire and Norfolk. All of the lists that have been transcribed so far are for hirings held in pubs, not Statute Fairs, although of course these did exist as well. Hiring fairs are very often mentioned in settlement examinations, often with details of the wages given and of the kind of service done by the servant. Transcriptions of all the Lincolnshire settlement examinations that were available at the time of publishing are available on CD Rom or as downloads from the Lincolnshire FHS at www.genfair.co.uk . Confined labourers are often mentioned, with details of their "perks" such as cottage, grazing for a cow and pig, land to grow potatoes etc. I hope this helps with your query. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Kate B <k2a33126@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:43 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Hiring fairs Can anyone say if Hiring fairs happened regularly in this county and if there are listings. I wonder why people moved from the County and which areas were the main employers. I understand - men were needed for mining - but mining was in many areas. Where were young woman mostly going, their employment in houses and later factories? _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.co m/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.co m/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Would love to hear, Fay. Good morning Linda from Australia.... I've had my DNA tested so will message you privately, see if we can connect, even though we know we are related by validated research. Hugs dear Cuz. Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jun 2018, at 6:57 AM, Linda <vesey@dccnet.com> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone > I'll be so glad to welcome our LINCS List back with daily conversations from my so helpful friends from years past. > > I'd like to suggest that we talk about DNA Testing. > > My experience of late has been extremely interesting and exciting. I'd like to share my latest find with you. > > My grandfather, Edward PLOWRIGHT b. 1874, Wrangle, left Lincolnshire 1895 for Canada. He met my grandmother, born 1872 in Hawesbury, Ontario, Canada, born just after her N. Ireland parents and two oldest siblings emigrational arrival in Eastern Canada. > > My grandfather Ed's older brother Thomas PLOWRIGHT came to Woodstock, Ontario, before him, married and farmed for a living. The NI relatives (to be) settled in close by Embro, Ontario ...of course, everyone knew each other. As The Thomas Plowrights were childless they adopted a young girl who had lost her parents. This young lady grew up, married and had children... > One of her children, a girl, I found many years ago through my genealogy search and we have thought through our research that perhaps we were related. Her mother thought so and put the seed in our minds but we could not prove it for sure. Just this past week 'low and behold' Ancestry DNA reports that she and I are 4-6th cousins. When I decided to do the DNA I was not thinking of her and when she did her's she was not thinking of me but we both are totally thrilled. The connection is through our N.I. line not the Lincolnshire one but our Lincolnshire heritage through adoption made us family without the blood connection...and now we know for sure...we are blood rellies as well. We're "over the moon"! I wish our mothers were alive to share the joy. > Kind regards to all, > Linda > B.C. > Canada

Good morning Linda from Australia.... I've had my DNA tested so will message you privately, see if we can connect, even though we know we are related by validated research. Hugs dear Cuz. Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jun 2018, at 6:57 AM, Linda <vesey@dccnet.com> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone > I'll be so glad to welcome our LINCS List back with daily conversations from my so helpful friends from years past. > > I'd like to suggest that we talk about DNA Testing. > > My experience of late has been extremely interesting and exciting. I'd like to share my latest find with you. > > My grandfather, Edward PLOWRIGHT b. 1874, Wrangle, left Lincolnshire 1895 for Canada. He met my grandmother, born 1872 in Hawesbury, Ontario, Canada, born just after her N. Ireland parents and two oldest siblings emigrational arrival in Eastern Canada. > > My grandfather Ed's older brother Thomas PLOWRIGHT came to Woodstock, Ontario, before him, married and farmed for a living. The NI relatives (to be) settled in close by Embro, Ontario ...of course, everyone knew each other. As The Thomas Plowrights were childless they adopted a young girl who had lost her parents. This young lady grew up, married and had children... > One of her children, a girl, I found many years ago through my genealogy search and we have thought through our research that perhaps we were related. Her mother thought so and put the seed in our minds but we could not prove it for sure. Just this past week 'low and behold' Ancestry DNA reports that she and I are 4-6th cousins. When I decided to do the DNA I was not thinking of her and when she did her's she was not thinking of me but we both are totally thrilled. The connection is through our N.I. line not the Lincolnshire one but our Lincolnshire heritage through adoption made us family without the blood connection...and now we know for sure...we are blood rellies as well. We're "over the moon"! I wish our mothers were alive to share the joy. > Kind regards to all, > Linda > B.C. > Canada

Hi Everyone I'll be so glad to welcome our LINCS List back with daily conversations from my so helpful friends from years past. I'd like to suggest that we talk about DNA Testing. My experience of late has been extremely interesting and exciting. I'd like to share my latest find with you. My grandfather, Edward PLOWRIGHT b. 1874, Wrangle, left Lincolnshire 1895 for Canada. He met my grandmother, born 1872 in Hawesbury, Ontario, Canada, born just after her N. Ireland parents and two oldest siblings emigrational arrival in Eastern Canada. My grandfather Ed's older brother Thomas PLOWRIGHT came to Woodstock, Ontario, before him, married and farmed for a living. The NI relatives (to be) settled in close by Embro, Ontario ...of course, everyone knew each other. As The Thomas Plowrights were childless they adopted a young girl who had lost her parents. This young lady grew up, married and had children... One of her children, a girl, I found many years ago through my genealogy search and we have thought through our research that perhaps we were related. Her mother thought so and put the seed in our minds but we could not prove it for sure. Just this past week 'low and behold' Ancestry DNA reports that she and I are 4-6th cousins. When I decided to do the DNA I was not thinking of her and when she did her's she was not thinking of me but we both are totally thrilled. The connection is through our N.I. line not the Lincolnshire one but our Lincolnshire heritage through adoption made us family without the blood connection...and now we know for sure...we are blood rellies as well. We're "over the moon"! I wish our mothers were alive to share the joy. Kind regards to all, Linda B.C. Canada

Hi Bazza Thanks for the welcome! There are no messages being held for administrative approval, but I can't say if there are any stuck somewhere in the deepest recesses of RootsWeb. Since the lists were resurrected, I've noticed that some fairly old messages have popped up on various lists, probably when someone behind the scenes has kicked a server. ;-) If anyone has sent messages to the list that haven't appeared, please do re-send them. Kind regards, Lynne Barry Wilson wrote: Hi Lynne, thanks for the information, welcome to our humble Abode !,, since the list was last on the list before the new system kicked in, is there any outstanding messages that we did not receive. I have noticed one or two messages that were from a while ago, even 2017 messages ?. Mant thanks for your help with the List’s. Bazza ( bazwilly53@gmail.com Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi Nivard, thanks for your reply, it was interesting what Lynne had to say, and at least we know what is going on. I am still getting to grips with family history, and still finding some bits and pieces, on my family list. ] It is funny what you come across when you are just looking around for info. and when you look at some of the family history groups, as I have managed to do this last few weeks, but it can be so colloquial at times and also very insular within some of these groups it is a wonder that they get any takers. On a local level, villages can also be quite protective, when it come's to info from their area, it can be as if only local's need apply. Thanks for keeping in touch though Nivard. warm regards Bazza On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 at 16:25, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bazza > > Not sure where you have seen messages from 2017 unless in the archives > > Its been said by the Rootsweb project manager that any messages pre 6th > March 2018 that were not delivered are gone for good > > So any messages received after 6th March 2018 are sent after that date > > The archives are still being rebuilt, it looks like they are back to > 2005 now so not many years left to be added back now > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 12/06/2018 14:40, Barry Wilson wrote: > > Hi Lynne, thanks for the information, welcome to our humble Abode !,, > since the list was last on the list before the new system kicked in, is > there any outstanding messages that we did not receive. I have noticed one > or two messages that were from a while ago, even 2017 messages ?. Mant > thanks for your help with the List’s. Bazza ( bazwilly53@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Bazza Not sure where you have seen messages from 2017 unless in the archives Its been said by the Rootsweb project manager that any messages pre 6th March 2018 that were not delivered are gone for good So any messages received after 6th March 2018 are sent after that date The archives are still being rebuilt, it looks like they are back to 2005 now so not many years left to be added back now Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12/06/2018 14:40, Barry Wilson wrote: > Hi Lynne, thanks for the information, welcome to our humble Abode !,, since the list was last on the list before the new system kicked in, is there any outstanding messages that we did not receive. I have noticed one or two messages that were from a while ago, even 2017 messages ?. Mant thanks for your help with the List’s. Bazza ( bazwilly53@gmail.com

Hi Lynne, thanks for the information, welcome to our humble Abode !,, since the list was last on the list before the new system kicked in, is there any outstanding messages that we did not receive. I have noticed one or two messages that were from a while ago, even 2017 messages ?. Mant thanks for your help with the List’s. Bazza ( bazwilly53@gmail.com Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Lynne Sent: 11 June 2018 21:41 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Missing Lincs - Please read this important announcement Hello all As the lists were being resurrected in March, list administrators were notified that they must be registered in the new mailing list system to keep their lists. Administrators that were not yet registered were to be notified by The Powers That Be that if they did not register in 30 days after being notified, their lists would be up for adoption. Unfortunately, Lou did not register and LincsGen was put up for adoption. I adopted the list. You may have seen my recent message to the list inquiring if anyone has an alternative email for list administer Lou. Knowing how devoted Lou has been to this list, my attempts to contact him were to confirm that he either did or did not want to continue to be list administrator. If he confirmed his desire to continue, I would turn the list back over to him. Messages to his known email addresses have not bounced, but neither have I heard back from him. So, at least for now, you have me as the administrator of this list. It's not a new position for me -- I already admin lots of lists and have had more years of experience than I care to think about. I have some familiarity with this list (that sounds rude, doesn't it?!) since in past years Lou has called upon me to step in when he has gone on vacation. With your help, my plan is to let the list roll on as usual. If I find any titbits which you might find interesting, I'll post them. If anyone has questions about or needs help with the administrative side (unsubbing, email changes, etc.), write to me off-list at eng-lincsgen-admin@rootsweb.com, eng-lincsgen-owner@rootsweb.com, or my personal address and I'll endeavour to help. Since there's always a monthly theme, your immediate assistance is required to come up with some themes. So, this month's theme is "Suggestions for monthly themes"! With thanks and best wishes, Lynne list admin. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Richard & Kate There is one photo of a hiring fair in Oxfordshire in 1895 on Ancestry in the Francis Frith collection Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12/06/2018 08:44, Richard M Brown wrote: > Nivard is quite right. > > A Victorian MP, paper manufacturer & MP - Sir Benjamin Stone - took many photographs of English customer and had books of these published. I’m sure there are photographs of hiring fairs in these books. Its worth checking with Birmingham Archives. > > Richard M Brown

Nivard is quite right. A Victorian MP, paper manufacturer & MP - Sir Benjamin Stone - took many photographs of English customer and had books of these published. I’m sure there are photographs of hiring fairs in these books. Its worth checking with Birmingham Archives. Richard M Brown Bromley, UK > On 12 Jun 2018, at 08:40, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Kate > > To the best of my knowledge hiring fairs were annual events and dealt mostly with agricultural or farm workers not miners > > Depending on the area miners were often tied to their employer, and not free to move as easily as you might think > > A little on hiring fairs here > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiring_and_mop_fairs > > And > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/migration > > It would also help others to help you if you give an idea of the time frame you are researching in > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 12/06/2018 07:43, Kate B wrote: >> Can anyone say if Hiring fairs happened regularly in this county and if >> there are listings. >> I wonder why people moved from the County and which areas were the main >> employers. >> I understand - men were needed for mining - but mining was in many areas. >> Where were young woman mostly going, their employment in houses and later >> factories? > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Kate To the best of my knowledge hiring fairs were annual events and dealt mostly with agricultural or farm workers not miners Depending on the area miners were often tied to their employer, and not free to move as easily as you might think A little on hiring fairs here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiring_and_mop_fairs And http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/migration It would also help others to help you if you give an idea of the time frame you are researching in Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12/06/2018 07:43, Kate B wrote: > Can anyone say if Hiring fairs happened regularly in this county and if > there are listings. > I wonder why people moved from the County and which areas were the main > employers. > I understand - men were needed for mining - but mining was in many areas. > Where were young woman mostly going, their employment in houses and later > factories?

Can anyone say if Hiring fairs happened regularly in this county and if there are listings. I wonder why people moved from the County and which areas were the main employers. I understand - men were needed for mining - but mining was in many areas. Where were young woman mostly going, their employment in houses and later factories?

Hi Bart That's what I was thinking, too. Great minds! ;-) Kind regards, Lynne Bart Simon <twzimboy@gmail.com> wrote: > >Hello: I also ran a list, but only last week I found out I couldn't log in, >and had to start anew and log into the new software system etc. I was not >notified on all this. I contacted the support and after a few >correspondences, they placed me back as the Admin etc. I suspect Lou might >not know he is off the list. Thanks - Bart.

Hello: I also ran a list, but only last week I found out I couldn't log in, and had to start anew and log into the new software system etc. I was not notified on all this. I contacted the support and after a few correspondences, they placed me back as the Admin etc. I suspect Lou might not know he is off the list. Thanks - Bart. ====================================

Look for him on fb he is on there as Louis R Mills Fiona Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jun 2018, at 21:39, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Hello all > > As the lists were being resurrected in March, list administrators were notified that they must be registered in the new mailing list system to keep their lists. Administrators that were not yet registered were to be notified by The Powers That Be that if they did not register in 30 days after being notified, their lists would be up for adoption. Unfortunately, Lou did not register and LincsGen was put up for adoption. I adopted the list. You may have seen my recent message to the list inquiring if anyone has an alternative email for list administer Lou. Knowing how devoted Lou has been to this list, my attempts to contact him were to confirm that he either did or did not want to continue to be list administrator. If he confirmed his desire to continue, I would turn the list back over to him. Messages to his known email addresses have not bounced, but neither have I heard back from him. > > So, at least for now, you have me as the administrator of this list. It's not a new position for me -- I already admin lots of lists and have had more years of experience than I care to think about. I have some familiarity with this list (that sounds rude, doesn't it?!) since in past years Lou has called upon me to step in when he has gone on vacation. > > With your help, my plan is to let the list roll on as usual. If I find any titbits which you might find interesting, I'll post them. If anyone has questions about or needs help with the administrative side (unsubbing, email changes, etc.), write to me off-list at > eng-lincsgen-admin@rootsweb.com, eng-lincsgen-owner@rootsweb.com, or my personal address and I'll endeavour to help. > > Since there's always a monthly theme, your immediate assistance is required to come up with some themes. So, this month's theme is "Suggestions for monthly themes"! > > With thanks and best wishes, > Lynne > list admin. > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello all As the lists were being resurrected in March, list administrators were notified that they must be registered in the new mailing list system to keep their lists. Administrators that were not yet registered were to be notified by The Powers That Be that if they did not register in 30 days after being notified, their lists would be up for adoption. Unfortunately, Lou did not register and LincsGen was put up for adoption. I adopted the list. You may have seen my recent message to the list inquiring if anyone has an alternative email for list administer Lou. Knowing how devoted Lou has been to this list, my attempts to contact him were to confirm that he either did or did not want to continue to be list administrator. If he confirmed his desire to continue, I would turn the list back over to him. Messages to his known email addresses have not bounced, but neither have I heard back from him. So, at least for now, you have me as the administrator of this list. It's not a new position for me -- I already admin lots of lists and have had more years of experience than I care to think about. I have some familiarity with this list (that sounds rude, doesn't it?!) since in past years Lou has called upon me to step in when he has gone on vacation. With your help, my plan is to let the list roll on as usual. If I find any titbits which you might find interesting, I'll post them. If anyone has questions about or needs help with the administrative side (unsubbing, email changes, etc.), write to me off-list at eng-lincsgen-admin@rootsweb.com, eng-lincsgen-owner@rootsweb.com, or my personal address and I'll endeavour to help. Since there's always a monthly theme, your immediate assistance is required to come up with some themes. So, this month's theme is "Suggestions for monthly themes"! With thanks and best wishes, Lynne list admin.

Thanks, Nivard. The admin address won't work, but I'll try the Att.net one and keep my fingers crossed. Kind regards, Lynne Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > >Hi Lynne > >Although the old admin address should get through the admin addresses >are now with owner in them > >eng-lincsgen-owner@rootsweb.com > >Or try this one > >Louis Mills <louis_mills@att.net> > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)