Freebmd gives birth of AEM ,Follow instructions for more info on how to order birth certificate, this will give you parents names and father's occupation, mothers maiden name and place of birth (Grimsby comes under Caistor registration for this period) Have you found her in 1891 census? she could be with her parents.   http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.plSurname First name(s) District Vol Page ________________________________ Births Mar 1882 (>99%) ________________________________ Markham Annie Elizabeth Caistor 7a 638   ________________________________ From: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: RW UK <MARKHAM-UK@rootsweb.com>; Yahoo TW95 <tw95@yahoogroups.com>; RW ENG-LINCS <ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012, 21:49 Subject: [LIN] Missing child [!!!] MGC: John Hudson b:1876 in Spilsby to Annie Elizabeth Markham b:1882 Grimsby. Who is Annie Elizabeth Markham and parents ?. http://users.adam.com.au/marcia/PersonalInformation7.html#Zacheus_Stainton http://users.adam.com.au/marcia/PersonalInformation8.html#Annie_Elizabeth_Markham School Boards: Thomas England Markham 1885; T. Ward in Spilsby 1895. Could someone please tell me a bit about the Habrough records, do they only start 1538 ?. I think I have run out of records .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ====================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Although these names are from Leicestershire, the family went on to live for generations in Louth, Lincolnshire. They were all carpet weavers. I'm trying to trace my Louth line back into Leicestershire. Does anyone on the list have any information on the following: Samuel BURDETT b. 1787 in Bringhurst, Market Harborough, Leicestershire, a carpet weaver m. Elizabeth BAKEWELL, b. Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Samuel's parents were possibly: Samuel BURDETT b. 1762, Bringhurst, Market Harborough, Leicestershire m. Jane OLIVER b. 1760, Bringhurst, Market Harborough, Leicestershire Regards Darren.

MGC: I have run out of time right now but: It must be noted, for instance, there is a very clear line of Stainton, which I can only assume 'might' be related to my Stainton high up my tree, and connects to several places in close patterns, but also Spilsby !!!. Not only that, the Dawsons are here, the Markhams, and Hudson. Hudson is a surname that would connect to Markhams in RSA, this Hudson came out from England, I am wondering they might be further related up the tree ?. A way point to start from: Zacheus Stainton m. Mary Ann \\, dg Jemima Stainton b:1833 Partney Lincs., m:1859 in Spilsby to Peter Dawson. There son Peter Dawson b:1860 in Spilsby m:1885 Mary Hewson (Hewson probably further related to Markham up the Markham tree ?). John Hudson b:1876 in Spilsby to Annie Elizabeth Markham b:1882 Grimsby. Who is Annie Elizabeth Markham and parents ?. http://users.adam.com.au/marcia/PersonalInformation7.html#Zacheus_Stainton http://users.adam.com.au/marcia/PersonalInformation8.html#Annie_Elizabeth_Markham School Boards: Thomas England Markham 1885; T. Ward in Spilsby 1895. Could someone please tell me a bit about the Habrough records, do they only start 1538 ?. I think I have run out of records .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ======================

On 07/05/2012 9:49 PM, Bart Simon wrote: > MGC: > > I have run out of time right now but: It must be noted, for instance, there > is a very clear line of Stainton, which I can only assume 'might' be related > to my Stainton high up my tree, and connects to several places in close > patterns, but also Spilsby !!!. Not only that, the Dawsons are here, the > Markhams, and Hudson. Hudson is a surname that would connect to Markhams in > RSA, this Hudson came out from England, I am wondering they might be further > related up the tree ?. A way point to start from: > > Zacheus Stainton m. Mary Ann \\, dg Jemima Stainton b:1833 Partney Lincs., > m:1859 in Spilsby to Peter Dawson. There son Peter Dawson b:1860 in Spilsby > m:1885 Mary Hewson (Hewson probably further related to Markham up the > Markham tree ?). > > John Hudson b:1876 in Spilsby to Annie Elizabeth Markham b:1882 Grimsby. > > Who is Annie Elizabeth Markham and parents ?. From the 1891 census Ann Markham is the daughter of John Markham b 1852 Scrawby, Lincs and Frances E Markham b 1857 Grainthorpe, Lincs They also had another child, Ann's brother, George b 1884 Grimsby, Lincs. From FreeBMD John Markham married Frances Elizabeth Doe 1881 2Q Caister Registration District John Hudson m Ann Elizabeth Markham 1902 2Q Grimsby Registration District In the 1911 census John Markham widower b Scrawby (John's wife, Frances Elizabeth d Grimsby 2Q 1910) George Markham b Grimsby 1884 Fred Markham b Grimsby 1894 Tom Sydney Markham b Grimsby b 1898 and John b Stickney and Annie (John Markham's daughter) Hudson had children John Edward Hudson 1904 b Grimsby Constance Hudson 1907 b Grimsby Victor

G'day form Western Australia. The following article I spotted in the Spalding Guardian on line makes me think that someone on this list probably has some connection with this huge family. Let's hope that someone within their family is already on the case and interviewing the siblings and retrieving and retaining heaps of family history and memorabilia before it is too late! <<Published on Sunday 6 May 2012 09:00 THERE are big families about and then there are those whose combined ages add up to an impressive 767 years! Sally Cunningham (80), of Roman Bank, Saracen's Head, has done the maths and worked out that she and her nine surviving brothers and sisters have achieved that magnificent number of years between them. The large family grew up in Whaplode Drove, the gap between the youngest and the oldest meaning that all 11 children weren't at home at the same time. Sally admits: "It was crowded. We lived in a three-bedroom house and there was a double and single bed in each room and a little box room with a little bed in it. Mum and dad had a room downstairs. We were crowded, but we were happy." Annie and Edward Abrams had Joan first of all, now 87 and living at Wyberton, and she had three children, and then along came Archie a year later, and he had two children and is now living at Coates near Whittlesey. After a break of a couple of years, Esther arrived, and she would have been 84 but she sadly died in 2005. Esther had five children and lived at Moulton Chapel. Then came Raymond (82), of Oakham (one child), Sally (two children), Betty (77), of Whaplode Drove (four children), Billy (76), of Spalding (one child), Alan (74), of Gosberton (two children), Mavis (72), of Spalding (four children) and Janet (67), of Gosberton (three children). Youngest of the brood was Carol Smalley, who is 66 and lives at Deeping St Nicholas, and who has one child. Tragically, Carol was born seven weeks after the death of her father, aged 44, from cancer - Carol believes as a result of a kick from a horse. Edward was a farm worker, a horseman all his life, who lived for his horses, and Sally remembers as a child him waiting for her to come home to help lead the horses across the field. Carol says wistfully: "I always wished I'd known my dad. I always said I would never leave mum and I didn't. She was mum and dad to me. All my sisters got married at 19 but I said I wanted to stay and look after her. I was 22 when she died and mum was 67. "After Dad died Mum brought the rest of us up and we were never hungry or cold and always well dressed, although they were perhaps hand-me-down clothes." Both women have very fond memories of Annie, known around the village where she helped out on the land as "Mam Abrams". "She was the sort of person people would come and ask for help and she would always say yes," says Sally. "She was everbody's mum and you couldn't have wished for a better mum," agrees Carol. Naturally, there were fights and siblings would fall out, and - something that will come as a shock to teenagers able to lock themselves behind a bathroom door for privacy - baths were taken once a week in their mother's bedroom in front of the fire. "By the time the last one had it the water was perhaps getting a bit thick," jokes Sally. They stayed close, enjoying family Christmas parties in Whaplode Drove chapel where the oldest would dress up as Santa Claus, and each family bought presents to put under the tree to make sure every child had a gift to take away. The brothers and sisters are still close, although they are not all able to get together as much now as they once did. However, Sally does have one precious photograph of them all, taken before Esther's death, and when they do meet up they are all able to share beautiful memories of a happy childhood. >> Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch).

Do you notify those who it effects ? Otherwise how do they know ? Best Wishes Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Mills" <louis_mills@att.net> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [LIN] Admin note: non-subscribers Hi, Missing Lincs, I've seen about a dozen messages sent to the list that never made it because the e-mail address wasn't subscribed. At one point in my life I had several e-mail accounts to separate work from hobby and volunteer work. I'm hoping that is what happened in these cases. But you MUST use a subscribed account to post to the list. That rule was set up to deter Spamming. Some of the recent undelivered mail has concerned setting up surname lists. I'll recommend that you look at the Guild of One-Name studies first, to see if someone is already working on your favorite name. If not, why not join them and contribute your efforts? If you have a list of a thousand or so BUTTONSIDES you've found, publish it somewhere to help all those Buttonside researchers. Don't be selfish. Share. Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was seeking information about my Johnson family. Rex Johnson and Bernie Kettlewell came to my assistance. Many thanks to these two fine gentlemen for their help with Luke Johnson. Mary in Alaska

Good afternoon. William HOLDSWORTH was christened 1 September 1793 in Waddingham. He married Hannah LEESON in 1815 (she was born 1791 in Barnetby le Wold) in Wrawby. They had two daughters that I know of. One was Anne HOLDSWORTH who married a John JOHNSON in 1836 and came across the pond. Her sister is Jane HOLDSWORTH b 1818 in Broughton by Brigg. I would really like to locate the sister Jane and also the burial places for both the parents. Thank you for your time. PS If you need lookups in the panhandle of Alaska, I may be able to help. Mary in Alaska

Sorry Bazza duff information marriages only till 1893, burials till 1964 Tony

Yes, each person gets a notification, with the exception of spammers.  A copy of their e-mail is included should they wish to resend it.  Everyone is welcomed to subscribe.  I have had a couple of people in the past who subscribed under a second e-mail address in Digest mode so they could keep back copies, but all that stuff is in the online archives anyway.     Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Billington <danny@billingtonuk.com> To: Louis Mills <louis_mills@att.net>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: non-subscribers Do you notify those who it effects ? Otherwise how do they know ? Best Wishes Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Mills" <louis_mills@att.net> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [LIN] Admin note: non-subscribers Hi, Missing Lincs, I've seen about a dozen messages sent to the list that never made it because the e-mail address wasn't subscribed. At one point in my life I had several e-mail accounts to separate work from hobby and volunteer work. I'm hoping that is what happened in these cases. But you MUST use a subscribed account to post to the list. That rule was set up to deter Spamming. Some of the recent undelivered mail has concerned setting up surname lists. I'll recommend that you look at the Guild of One-Name studies first, to see if someone is already working on your favorite name. If not, why not join them and contribute your efforts? If you have a list of a thousand or so BUTTONSIDES you've found, publish it somewhere to help all those Buttonside researchers. Don't be selfish. Share. Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bazza Holbeach Marriage transcriptions up to 1964 are on FreeReg Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baz Willy" <spadga19382000@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Hi Anne, whilst the talk is about the marriage index, Is there a reason that the Holbeach data, is still only up to 1870 Please. regards Bazza

Hello Bazza, There are only three of us working on this index now. One is working on the Boston St Botolph marriages, one on Spalding RD and I am working on Gainsborough RD. It takes a long time to complete a Registration District, but I suspect that Holbeach will come after Spalding is finished. Could be a year or so. This isn't a Lincolnshire FHS Society project, by the way, and if anyone has any microfiche of marriages post 1870 and could contribute a parish or two that hasn't been done yet, I would welcome some help! I've just sent another load of Gainsborough marriages to the webmaster and will let you know when the site has been updated. Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Baz Willy Sent: 07 May 2012 11:37 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Hi Anne, whilst the talk is about the marriage index, Is there a reason that the Holbeach data, is still only up to 1870 Please. regards Bazza ________________________________ From: Leonard Skinner <leonard.skinner@btinternet.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012, 17:45 Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Hi Anne Thanks for the information about the marriage indexes being online at FMP. With regard to missing marriage registers do you happen to know whether the Long Bennington ones fall into this category. Leonard -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole Sent: 05 May 2012 20:39 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Hello Leonard, I have no means of comparing the two, number wise, but the new indexes contain more information than the ones on fiche and many corrections have been made. The new version of the marriages is also on Find My Past. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leonard Skinner Sent: 05 May 2012 19:21 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Hi Anne Thanks for the suggestion about Notts. I had considered it since I have a number of Minnitt and Littlewood ancestors who did marry across the County borders. List member David Meredith has given me some interesting leads on this point. I have the LFHS Marriage Indexes 1700-1837 for the Graffoe, Loveden and Corringham Deaneries 2005 Edition, are there many more new entries in the new indexes to make it worth getting them. Leonard -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole Sent: 05 May 2012 16:39 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... You are quite close to the Nottinghamshire border there, Leonard. It may be worth looking for the marriage in Notts. The marriage doesn't turn up in our new super duper re-checked index, so the only other alternative is that the marriage wasn't noted down in the register/BTs or the appropriate register/BT has gone missing. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of angie millard Sent: 05 May 2012 16:29 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Not sure if you have this, there is a Frances Collingwood on the nbi buried Fulbeck 15/7/1815 aged 71 Regards Angie On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Leonard Skinner < leonard.skinner@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi List > > > > Can anyone please help with one of my many brick walls in Lincolnshire. > > > > I have been trying to find the marriage details of William Collingwood > to Frances .  William was bap. in Fulbeck in 1744 and was resident in Fulbeck > after his marriage. The first child of the marriage that I have been > able to find was Thomas who was bap. In Fulbeck in 1773. At this time > William's father Thomas Collingwood was the Church Warden in the > parish church. > > > > I have tried the familysearch.com website and the LFHS Marriage > Indexes > 1700-1837 2005 Edition for the Corringham, Graffoe and Loveden > Deaneries with no success. It is highly likely that the marriage took > place out of the parish of Fulbeck. > > > > Regards > > Leonard > > > > Researching the Collingwood, Littlewood, Lum and Minnitt families in > Lincolnshire > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Just as a slight aside for anyone who has epilepsy in the family, please be aware that this condition, although on the whole, 'controlled' by drugs can be life threatening for reasons yet not understood - see the SUDEP (sudden death from epilepsy) website.  Having lost a brother & a close family friend in such circumstances it is a terrible shock not to have been aware of this possible sad outcome. Anne ________________________________ From: "eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com" <eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012, 8:00 Subject: ENG-LINCSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 201 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Today's Topics:   1. Re: Admin note: Epilepsi (John & Jan Marchant)   Hi Lou I was interested in your email about epilepsy (we've always spelt it with a "y"). My paternal grandmother was an epileptic. She was born in Norfolk in 1877 and died in Islington, north London, in 1947. I hardly knew her as London was a long way away for us, being in Leicester without a car. I have not known of any other family member with epilepsy and I know it is not always heredity, often being from injuries at birth. I would be interested in finding any records about her. How do I access the Poor Law Records? She may not be in them, though. She was in the millinery trade in the 1891 and 1901 censuses and she was married in 1904 to my grandfather. I have their 1911 census record too. I only know she was epileptic because my mother told me, and that she was relieved that I am not (so am I!). Regards Jan Marchant Australia

Lovely story, and there must be many more out there Peter, my own family of Wilson's came through that area around the same time on their way from Langtoft / Bourne, to Holbeach marsh,  between 1850- 1900   Bazza ________________________________ From: Peter HOLMES <pgh@multiline.com.au> To: Lincolnshire new <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012, 11:45 Subject: [LIN] Here's a big family & an opportunity (ABRAMS family) G'day form Western Australia. The following article I spotted in the Spalding Guardian on line makes me think that someone on this list probably has some connection with this huge family. Let's hope that someone within their family is already on the case and interviewing the siblings and retrieving and retaining heaps of family history and memorabilia before it is too late! <<Published on Sunday 6 May 2012 09:00 THERE are big families about and then there are those whose combined ages add up to an impressive 767 years! Sally Cunningham (80), of Roman Bank, Saracen's Head, has done the maths and worked out that she and her nine surviving brothers and sisters have achieved that magnificent number of years between them. The large family grew up in Whaplode Drove, the gap between the youngest and the oldest meaning that all 11 children weren't at home at the same time. Sally admits: "It was crowded. We lived in a three-bedroom house and there was a double and single bed in each room and a little box room with a little bed in it. Mum and dad had a room downstairs. We were crowded, but we were happy." Annie and Edward Abrams had Joan first of all, now 87 and living at Wyberton, and she had three children, and then along came Archie a year later, and he had two children and is now living at Coates near Whittlesey. After a break of a couple of years, Esther arrived, and she would have been 84 but she sadly died in 2005. Esther had five children and lived at Moulton Chapel. Then came Raymond (82), of Oakham (one child), Sally (two children), Betty (77), of Whaplode Drove (four children), Billy (76), of Spalding (one child), Alan (74), of Gosberton (two children), Mavis (72), of Spalding (four children) and Janet (67), of Gosberton (three children). Youngest of the brood was Carol Smalley, who is 66 and lives at Deeping St Nicholas, and who has one child. Tragically, Carol was born seven weeks after the death of her father, aged 44, from cancer - Carol believes as a result of a kick from a horse. Edward was a farm worker, a horseman all his life, who lived for his horses, and Sally remembers as a child him waiting for her to come home to help lead the horses across the field. Carol says wistfully: "I always wished I'd known my dad. I always said I would never leave mum and I didn't. She was mum and dad to me. All my sisters got married at 19 but I said I wanted to stay and look after her. I was 22 when she died and mum was 67. "After Dad died Mum brought the rest of us up and we were never hungry or cold and always well dressed, although they were perhaps hand-me-down clothes." Both women have very fond memories of Annie, known around the village where she helped out on the land as "Mam Abrams". "She was the sort of person people would come and ask for help and she would always say yes," says Sally. "She was everbody's mum and you couldn't have wished for a better mum," agrees Carol. Naturally, there were fights and siblings would fall out, and - something that will come as a shock to teenagers able to lock themselves behind a bathroom door for privacy - baths were taken once a week in their mother's bedroom in front of the fire. "By the time the last one had it the water was perhaps getting a bit thick," jokes Sally. They stayed close, enjoying family Christmas parties in Whaplode Drove chapel where the oldest would dress up as Santa Claus, and each family bought presents to put under the tree to make sure every child had a gift to take away. The brothers and sisters are still close, although they are not all able to get together as much now as they once did. However, Sally does have one precious photograph of them all, taken before Esther's death, and when they do meet up they are all able to share beautiful memories of a happy childhood. >> Peter Holmes Western Australia.      Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anne, whilst the talk is about the marriage index, Is there a reason that the Holbeach data, is still only up to 1870 Please. regards Bazza ________________________________ From: Leonard Skinner <leonard.skinner@btinternet.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012, 17:45 Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Hi Anne Thanks for the information about the marriage indexes being online at FMP. With regard to missing marriage registers do you happen to know whether the Long Bennington ones fall into this category. Leonard -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole Sent: 05 May 2012 20:39 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Hello Leonard, I have no means of comparing the two, number wise, but the new indexes contain more information than the ones on fiche and many corrections have been made. The new version of the marriages is also on Find My Past. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leonard Skinner Sent: 05 May 2012 19:21 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Hi Anne Thanks for the suggestion about Notts. I had considered it since I have a number of Minnitt and Littlewood ancestors who did marry across the County borders. List member David Meredith has given me some interesting leads on this point. I have the LFHS Marriage Indexes 1700-1837 for the Graffoe, Loveden and Corringham Deaneries 2005 Edition, are there many more new entries in the new indexes to make it worth getting them. Leonard -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole Sent: 05 May 2012 16:39 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... You are quite close to the Nottinghamshire border there, Leonard. It may be worth looking for the marriage in Notts. The marriage doesn't turn up in our new super duper re-checked index, so the only other alternative is that the marriage wasn't noted down in the register/BTs or the appropriate register/BT has gone missing. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of angie millard Sent: 05 May 2012 16:29 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage of William Collingwood and Frances ... Not sure if you have this, there is a Frances Collingwood on the nbi buried Fulbeck 15/7/1815 aged 71 Regards Angie On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Leonard Skinner < leonard.skinner@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi List > > > > Can anyone please help with one of my many brick walls in Lincolnshire. > > > > I have been trying to find the marriage details of William Collingwood to > Frances .  William was bap. in Fulbeck in 1744 and was resident in Fulbeck > after his marriage. The first child of the marriage that I have been > able to find was Thomas who was bap. In Fulbeck in 1773. At this time > William's father Thomas Collingwood was the Church Warden in the > parish church. > > > > I have tried the familysearch.com website and the LFHS Marriage > Indexes > 1700-1837 2005 Edition for the Corringham, Graffoe and Loveden > Deaneries with no success. It is highly likely that the marriage took > place out of the parish of Fulbeck. > > > > Regards > > Leonard > > > > Researching the Collingwood, Littlewood, Lum and Minnitt families in > Lincolnshire > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Missing Lincs,     I've seen about a dozen messages sent to the list that never made it because the e-mail address wasn't subscribed.  At one point in my life I had several e-mail accounts to separate work from hobby and volunteer work.  I'm hoping that is what happened in these cases.  But you MUST use a subscribed account to post to the list.  That rule was set up to deter Spamming.     Some of the recent undelivered mail has concerned setting up surname lists.  I'll recommend that you look at the Guild of One-Name studies first, to see if someone is already working on your favorite name.  If not, why not join them and contribute your efforts?  If you have a list of a thousand or so BUTTONSIDES you've found, publish it somewhere to help all those Buttonside researchers.  Don't be selfish.  Share.     Lou (list admin.)

The 1841 census does not give place of birth only yes or no to 'whether born in this county' Age of persons over the age of 15 is given in terms of 5 yrs, see enumerators instructions at the beginning of each book. " For persons aged 15 yrs and upwards, write the lowest of the term of 5 yrs within which the age is" age given of 65 yrs could be 65 to 69 yrs old - Then allow for errors   ________________________________ From: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; VJSpringer@aol.com Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012, 21:59 Subject: Re: [LIN] Missing Child [LOW and or DAWSON] MGC: When first looking into this tree, it became apparent off-list that there was some doubling up around Thomas Lowe and two Mary's. I feel you can stop struggling with some things: Thomas Lowe b:1776 m1:1800 Mary Dawson b:1776 in Alford. Mary (Dawson) Lowe d:1817 and bur. in Alford after giving birth to son Cornelius. Thomas Lowe b:1776 m2:1824 Mary Epton b:1776 (?). [Her husband Thomas was baptised in 1788]: The Thomas Lowe I am referring to as given out, is b:1776 !!!. [If Mary née DAWSON died in 1817, there is a marriage between Thomas LOWE (Widower) and Mary EPTON (Widow, née SIMS) in August 1824, Alford Parish, that may apply.]: Yes, it is correct, it is this Mary (Epton) Lowe who is mentioned in the 1841 census. === I have never been able to find Mary Dawson before her marriage in 1800 in Alford.  Believe me I have tried many leads. Mary’s baptism will be a challenge. === (*) Mary’s father-in-law, the Thomas LOWE (1744-1808) who married Sarah EPTON at Swaby in 1771 is “of the parish of Authorpe.”  While Mary’s husband, Thomas (1778-1844) appears to be born at North Ormsby, his younger brother Amos was born at Authorpe. === IF .... .... .... This is correct, it will apply to Mary Epton m2. for Thomas Lowe b:1776 !!!. You keep going to the wrong Thomas Lowe the whole time. The 1841 census for Alford clearly states he is b:1776 !!!. Go back and read my post today and yesterday. TRY THOMAS LOWE BORN/BAPT/CHR.:1776 AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS .... ============================================================== I need to correct my post I just sent in at least area: Surname  Forename    Born      Place of birth    Location in 1841 ^Dawson  Mary          1776    ....                      Spilsby *Lowe    Mary            1776      Lincolnshire      Spilsby, Alford *Lowe      Thomas      1776    Lincolnshire      Spilsby, Alford ^Dawson Mary            1776    Lincolnshire      Horncastle, Horncastle ?. The Mary Dawson b:1776 in Spilsby in 1841 is surnamed Dawson. This can't be the wife (m1) of Thomas Lowe !!!. This is a relative. Neither would the Mary Dawson in Horncastle be the Mary Dawson in question. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ============================================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MGC: When first looking into this tree, it became apparent off-list that there was some doubling up around Thomas Lowe and two Mary's. I feel you can stop struggling with some things: Thomas Lowe b:1776 m1:1800 Mary Dawson b:1776 in Alford. Mary (Dawson) Lowe d:1817 and bur. in Alford after giving birth to son Cornelius. Thomas Lowe b:1776 m2:1824 Mary Epton b:1776 (?). [Her husband Thomas was baptised in 1788]: The Thomas Lowe I am referring to as given out, is b:1776 !!!. [If Mary née DAWSON died in 1817, there is a marriage between Thomas LOWE (Widower) and Mary EPTON (Widow, née SIMS) in August 1824, Alford Parish, that may apply.]: Yes, it is correct, it is this Mary (Epton) Lowe who is mentioned in the 1841 census. === I have never been able to find Mary Dawson before her marriage in 1800 in Alford. Believe me I have tried many leads. Mary’s baptism will be a challenge. === (*) Mary’s father-in-law, the Thomas LOWE (1744-1808) who married Sarah EPTON at Swaby in 1771 is “of the parish of Authorpe.” While Mary’s husband, Thomas (1778-1844) appears to be born at North Ormsby, his younger brother Amos was born at Authorpe. === IF .... .... .... This is correct, it will apply to Mary Epton m2. for Thomas Lowe b:1776 !!!. You keep going to the wrong Thomas Lowe the whole time. The 1841 census for Alford clearly states he is b:1776 !!!. Go back and read my post today and yesterday. TRY THOMAS LOWE BORN/BAPT/CHR.:1776 AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS .... ============================================================== I need to correct my post I just sent in at least area: Surname Forename Born Place of birth Location in 1841 ^Dawson Mary 1776 .... Spilsby *Lowe Mary 1776 Lincolnshire Spilsby, Alford *Lowe Thomas 1776 Lincolnshire Spilsby, Alford ^Dawson Mary 1776 Lincolnshire Horncastle, Horncastle ?. The Mary Dawson b:1776 in Spilsby in 1841 is surnamed Dawson. This can't be the wife (m1) of Thomas Lowe !!!. This is a relative. Neither would the Mary Dawson in Horncastle be the Mary Dawson in question. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ==============================================

MGC: I am taking liberty to forward this to this list, which is why I sent a copy of that particular email to the MARKHAM-UK list !!! I would suggest Markhams for lincs join up on this Lincs list, and visa versa. I can't copy, paste, and forward across lists too much. - S.K.M. - [!!!]. PS: I do suspect your Dawson are in Louth too. Take note: I did point out !!! : Surname Forename Born Place of birth Location in 1841 ^Dawson Mary 1776 Spilsby *Lowe Mary 1776 Lincolnshire Spilsby, Alford *Lowe Thomas 1776 Lincolnshire Spilsby, Alford ^[Dawson Mary 1776 Lincolnshire Horncastle, Horncastle ???] * This is in 1841: It means this is Thomas Lowe + Mary (Sims) Epton in/of Spilsby, Alford !!!. IT SAYS THEY ARE BOTH B:1776 !!!. And then who is/are (^) ?. You see, I am asking myself, from recent posts, surely I have given out the answer to quite some degree, or not ?. =============================== -----Original Message----- From: Doug Harper Subject: Re: [MARKHAM-UK] [LIN] Missing Child SKM wrote: "There are a few Markham - Dawson marriages. The one I have just been looking at is : Thomas England Markham m:1876 Maria Dawson at Louth, Lincolnshire, England. Descendants also immigrates elsewhere." The Maria Dawson referenced above was married to T.E. Markham, per my tree at: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/marcum/pats. Her ancestors to my knowledge were: her father: William Bennett Dawson, b. Feb 24, 1825, St. Martins, Welton Le Marsh; and her mother Elizabeth Hewson, Christened. Aug. 3, 1826, also in Welton Le Wold (you'll really have to zoom in on Google Maps to find that one!). William's occupation on Maria's birth certificate: butcher, residing on Mercer Row, Louth. They were married: June 24, 1847. William Bennett Dawson's parents (with less confidence) were: John Dawson & Dinah Wood (no dates, no places, no time yet at my end to follow-up). So, if this John Dawson were born just before the turn of the century; perhaps to a brother of the Mary Dawson of Spilsby or Horncastle, then there might be a connection. The distances involved (Welton Le Wold to Spilsby or Horncastle) are not great today, but in the horse cart days of the late 1700's maybe too much for there to be a connection. Doug Harper Toronto, Canada ====================

I think there is some confusion here. This if from "The Handy Book of Parish Law" originally published in 1859 but republished by the Wiltshire FHS (a recommended read as it covers a great deal of the pre and post 1834 Poor Law)ISBN 1 898714 13 4 (old style ISBN number) The Parish Clerk does not have to be a man in holy orders. He should be "twenty years of age; and, according to a canon of the church, must possess competent skill in reading, writing, and (if possible) in singing, although this latter qualification does not appear to be indispensable. When elected or appointed, parish clerks are usually licensed by the bishop, and take an oath to obey the incumbent. This, however, is not necessary to complete their title to their office. The emoluments of the office vary according to the practice in each parish; as a general rule, they are chiefly derived from fees payable upon the performance of the different offices of the church". The Parish Clerk could be appointed by the incumbent, or by the Vestry. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham Taylor Sent: 06 May 2012 21:33 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] George Luty Parish Clerk Parish Councils did not come into existence until 1894. Until this time the Parish Clerk would have been ecclesiastical Graham -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ANTONY BARBER Sent: 06 May 2012 21:00 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] George Luty Parish Clerk I have a Marriage certificate between Henry Burnett and Mary Luty in Alford parish church, May 15, 1861 in which the bride's father is given as George Luty, Parish Clerk. I have been unable to discover any parish of which he was the clerk. I am not sure if this was an ecclesiastical or secular appointment. Any suggestions? Antony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message