Phil Probably Scupholme - a couple of miles SW of South Somercoates. John ________________________________ From: Phil Johnson <philheln@telus.net> To: LINCS <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2012, 0:04 Subject: [LIN] SCUPHAM Hi List I have an 1881 census record showing George W. Broomfield born in Scupham. I cannot locate that place on any maps I have. His father was born in South Somercoats and his mother born in Utterby. The census place is Rushton. So - can anyone help me locate my missing village? Thanks so much. Phil
Hello Maree. Joseph and Mary SNELL were my 5x great grandparents. I'll get back to you off list. Mick
Thanks a lot Bernie and John. I was confident the info would come from list members. Phil
Hi Lou, Would you settle for a Mary Elizabeth Auckland(sic) living in Allington with her parents Charles and Ann, and some siblings. RG12/2715 folio 5 p 4. The GRO Index indicates that a Mary Elizabeth Aukland married Robert Irwin in 1899, and the 1911 census says Mary E. Irwin married 12 years. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 18/05/2012 22:53, Louis Mills wrote: > Hey, this is kinda fun! > > I'm looking for Mary Ann IRWIN (nee AUKLAND) in the 1891 census. She should be in or near Allington, Lincs. She married Robert IRWIN in West Allington in 1899. > > Lou > > ------------------------------- >
1841 Swinstead P17 F 12 RG107/622/30 William Money 60 Ag Lab Yes Ann Money 60 Yes Margaret Taylor ( Port Perry.Ont) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Mills" <louis_mills@att.net> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 5:42 PM Subject: [LIN] Looking for MONEY I'm looking for William MONEY who should have been in Swinstead in the 1841 census. He died there in 1845. He'd likely be a widower around 64 years old in 1841. Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2169 / Virus Database: 2425/5007 - Release Date: 05/18/12
Lou, There is this entry: RG9/2481 P6 F 120 Indexed as GIBSONS Sedgebrook Lincs John GIBSON(S) H M 53 Agricultural Labourer bn Freeby Leics Mary GIBSON(S) W M 54 Labourers wife bn Sedgebrook Lincs Margaret Taylor ( Port Perry.Ont) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Mills" <louis_mills@att.net> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:07 PM Subject: [LIN] Mary GIBSON in 1861 I'm going to cast a net in the 1861 census for Mary GIBSON, wife, age 54, probably living in Sedgebrook, born Waltham, Leicestershire. Her husband would be John. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2169 / Virus Database: 2425/5007 - Release Date: 05/18/12
Hi List I have an 1881 census record showing George W. Broomfield born in Scupham. I cannot locate that place on any maps I have. His father was born in South Somercoats and his mother born in Utterby. The census place is Rushton. So - can anyone help me locate my missing village? Thanks so much. Phil
Hi Scott This is my KENDALL lineage [already a member of the KENDALL DNA project] Thomas and Fanny only have one male line surviving to present day. I have passed on your emails to my 'cousins' from this line. The link is to me e-book, which I wrote on the descendants of Thomas & Fanny. http://free.yudu.com/item/details/201544/Kendall-Family-of-Ashby-Lincolnshire http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kendall1&id=I0539 Maria Borrill -----Original Message----- From: Scott Kendall Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 12:27 AM To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Thomas Kendall and Fammy Dennis m 1812 in Lincolnshire Hello, I am new to the list. I am researching the surname Kendall and their connection to Lincolnshire: Thomas Kendall b: Bef. 1 December 1788 in Baptised Waddingham St Mary's Lincolnshire married Fanny Dennis b: June 1790 in Scotter Lincolnshire m: 5 May 1812 in St Mary's Church Waddingham Lincolnshire We hope to find connections between the American Kendall families and our English roots. Any assistance or direction would be appreciated. We are conducting a Kendall DNA Project to help supplement our conventional genealogy. If you would like to share your family history or learn more about our project please contact me at ScottDKendall@gmail.com Thank you Scott ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I'm going to cast a net in the 1861 census for Mary GIBSON, wife, age 54, probably living in Sedgebrook, born Waltham, Leicestershire. Her husband would be John.
Hey, this is kinda fun! I'm looking for Mary Ann IRWIN (nee AUKLAND) in the 1891 census. She should be in or near Allington, Lincs. She married Robert IRWIN in West Allington in 1899. Lou
I'd suspect that the fact that the Bishop of Kildare had a bailiff in Frithville did not mean that the Bishop himself lived there. A bailiff was often a representative of someone who was located elsewhere. Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Rbgenlincs@aol.com [mailto:Rbgenlincs@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:27 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Bishop of Kildare Hi List, I've found an entry in the Stamford Mercury in April 1835, reporting the death on my 3x great grandfather Edward Carey. It say's he was a Bailiff for the Bishop of Kildare at Frithville. Anyone got any idea where the Bishop of Kildare would have lived in Frithville. Regards, Richard Brothwell
I'm looking for William MONEY who should have been in Swinstead in the 1841 census. He died there in 1845. He'd likely be a widower around 64 years old in 1841. Lou
I've got a Thomas MATCHETT who married Mary ALLEN in Sedgebrook on 12 Aug 1827. He may have died before 1841, because I find Mary ALLEN in 1841 at age 35 as a bonnet maker. Now, I may have the wrong Mary ALLEN, because she'd only be about 12 when she married in 1827. But the Bishop's Transcript doesn't give a lot of details. Does anyone know this Thomas MATCHETT? Lou
For the rest of May, let's devote this month to the letter M. First name, last name, nickname, doesn't matter. I don't think I have any in my tree, but I'll take a look and tell you what I'd like to know. Must be a Michael in there somewhere. Certainly a Mary or a dozen Mariannes. Maybe a Mehitabal even. I'll show you mine and you show me yours. Let's get those M's taken care of. Lou (list admin.)
Another possibility is that maybe the bishopric owned land/property in Frithville, and so needed a bailiff to oversee it? Or the bishop himself I guess. Church of Ireland bishop of the period. 1804 - 1846 Hon. Charles Dalrymple Lyndsay. He's from a Scottish aristocratic family. Roman Catholic Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin Edward Nolan (18341837) Either (or both) dioceses might have archives to explain the reference. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia McCrory Sent: 18 May 2012 08:04 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Bishop of Kildare Hi Richard Just a thought, but perhaps it was Edward Carey who lived at Frithville and not the actual Bishop of Kildare? Pat ________________________________ From: "Rbgenlincs@aol.com" <Rbgenlincs@aol.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2012, 17:26 Subject: [LIN] Bishop of Kildare Hi List, I've found an entry in the Stamford Mercury in April 1835, reporting the death on my 3x great grandfather Edward Carey. It say's he was a Bailiff for the Bishop of Kildare at Frithville. Anyone got any idea where the Bishop of Kildare would have lived in Frithville. Regards, Richard Brothwell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This may, or may not, be of some help! A Valuation of the messuages, tenements and lands of Louth in 1823 shows 4 households with Markhams. Kidgate Lane - John Markham - house Market Place - Thomas Markham - house and shop Ramsgate - George Markham - house Upgate - John Markham - house and premises Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Simon" <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: "RW ENG-LINCS" <ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com>; "RW UK" <MARKHAM-UK@rootsweb.com>; "Yahoo TW95" <tw95@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] [MARKHAM-UK] George Markham b:1823 Louth Lincs [!!!] > FRANCIS
Hi Richard Just a thought, but perhaps it was Edward Carey who lived at Frithville and not the actual Bishop of Kildare? Pat ________________________________ From: "Rbgenlincs@aol.com" <Rbgenlincs@aol.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2012, 17:26 Subject: [LIN] Bishop of Kildare Hi List, I've found an entry in the Stamford Mercury in April 1835, reporting the death on my 3x great grandfather Edward Carey. It say's he was a Bailiff for the Bishop of Kildare at Frithville. Anyone got any idea where the Bishop of Kildare would have lived in Frithville. Regards, Richard Brothwell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
MGC: [Speculation Mode]: Well, I am slowly learning Louth. I spent some time in Google Map Street View. Nichol Hill runs into Eastgate, and Eastgate runs into Upgate where St. James is. The 'Street View' shows one even better just how close everything is. FRANCIS MARKHAM OF UPGATE : Time line (TL) suggests he could be the son of your George Markham b:1771. and brother to John Markham, (Coachman) b:1803. Francis Markham MUST BE this person (?): [Francis Markham, Pelham Square, Bricklayer.]. [1828-9: Markham, Frans. Upgate, Bricklayer + Builder; George Tatam, Hollow Gate, Bricklayer; John Smith, Goose Pool, Bricklayer]. I suspect George Tatam Bricklayer is : [Louth St. James m:1811-01-17 George Tatam + Mary Markham]. He is also the [George Tatam, Grimsby Road]. MM must be yours. This Smith family comes in close too. [DougH Says: Francis Markham who witnessed John & Frances marriage (a brother of John perhaps?)]: FM is probably his brother or close enough. Francis Markham has a son John Markham b:1848, and it is probably [John Markham, Upgate.] (?). There is also one [John Markham, Ramsgate, Auctioneer.] to follow. [Hy Campion, (Game-Butcher), Upgate]. [Wm. Bennett, Eastgate, Painter (With my Hannah Markham, Painter !)]: Or .... My Hannah Markham would be the one given to be Locos, maybe this is your Hannah Markham next to the Bennett family ?. A bit more time we can sort it out. [Hanh. Markham, Coach builder, etc., Corn Market; Gospel Gate.]. My Thomas Markham who m. Hannah Ward was a Coach Maker (Trains?), this 'other/same?' Hannah Markham is a painter of signs [< Maybe yours ?]. 1828: [William Dawson, Eastgate, Basket Maker]. 1828: [William Markham, Maiden Lane, Printer (?)]: I currently do not know how he might fit in. === GM:1823 - WHERE ARE YOU !!! : I took much thought today to ask myself how come GM:1823 is never around. The census was always on a Sunday. Unlike these other Markhams, which 'might' be of near kin, which is why I am following this one for a short while, he does not seem to have a 'business' in the Louth Directory as such. He is always out. I am wondering if he is this one (?): [Louth Carriers: Laceby: Markham & Swaby]. No-one else yet would fit this bill. [Louth Eske Hundred: Wold and Marsh divisions. The Wold Division occupies the west side of the hundred and comprises the town of Louth, the villages of Authorpe, Burwell, Calcethorp, Cockerington St. Leonard, Cockerington St. Mary, Elkington North, Elkington South, Farforth with Maidenwell, Gayton le Wold, Hallington, Haugham, Keddington, Kelstern, Louth Park, Maltby, Muckton, Raithby, Ruckland, Stewton, Tathwell, Welton le Wold, Withcall, and Wykham.]. In the Louth St. James Church records, there is a pre-1800 line of Markham, that goes back a few decades or so, possibly my Markhams. Will come back to it. The Markham/Surfleet lineage of Elkington etc., might also want to see if you connect to the Markhams I speak of ?. Interesting to note the big shots ANNESLEY-MARKHAM family (Different Markham family and DNA), impact 'over' Louth. I have to note the nearness of some families near Markhams in Louth: FORMAN - WARD - JACKSON - RYALL - ADLARD - JOHNSON - SNOWDEN - ROBINSON - ETC. This WARD family must be of near kin, no doubt, and FORMAN possibly related to the FOREMAN family in the early Rhodesia days ?. === [HELP ME] : I would like to know where on Google Maps I can find each of the following places : Louth Park - Pelham Square - Hollow Gate - Goose Pool. === My First Guess: GM:1823 must be nearby and maybe living in Eastgate or close enough!. In 1651 census it seems neither of them are at home, and he is never at home on a Sunday!. GM:1823 has a set agenda that always keeps him out of Louth on a Sunday. I 'think' he might be GM:1823, Saddler, Harness Maker, + maybe? CARRIER !. NOTE: The Post Office is in EASTGATE. On SUNDAY 1851 census day, Rebecca 'Maria' Markham with '6 mo' son Thomas, is visiting John Smith + family. Rebecca is visiting a neighbour next door or over the road from where she lives. She would not have WALKED far to visit, since she her husband is away on SUNDAY, with her '6 mo' baby boy. Since he is away from home, she and her son are visiting, means no-one is at home to be enumerated!. Her friends call her 'Maria'. When I look at one chap John Swaby 'Carrier', Louth? to Alford every Wed. + Sat. from St. James' St., to Hull from St. James' every Thurs., to Spilsby from St. James' every Monday morning. GM:1823 was Saddler + Harness Maker <1851 Census. But by 1856: In Whites 1856 (!!!) Dir. Lincs., under 'SADDLERS' there is no GM:1823. But under 'CARRIERS': [Louth Carriers: Laceby: Markham & Swaby]. So John Swaby is doing the southern or SE trips, and Markham is doing the northern trips. I wonder what day the Laceby trips would be ?. [... and John Swaby, from Johnson's warehouse & Mariners' Tavern, every Friday]. Actually as I write, I research as I write, my Thomas Markham m:1818 Hannah Ward, correct for persons, maybe not occ.?, is still mine, this Thomas Markham + Hannah Markham of Louth, is causing problems in my own tree. This [Thomas Markham + Hannah Markham of Louth] must be yours ?. There is a problem between the PAINTERS + COACHMEN etc. The occ/prof of my TM:1790 Wrawby must be checked !!!. I was given that this TM + HM of Louth should be mine, even though they have children born there, my TM:1790 Wrawby 'Coach Maker' in Louth, ???, your JOHN MARKHAM:1803 'Coachman', I need time to map this out precisely. NOTE: Loosely given, the coach builder + painters 'might' both be yours. [Wm. Bennett, Eastgate, Painter (With Hannah Markham!)]: Is this is yours ?. [Hanh. Markham, Coach builder, etc., Corn Market; Gospel Gate]: Is this yours then ?. The dg is the painter and the mother? (widow?) the coach builder ?. 90% of your Markhams are here ?. No wonder I am confused. But we might still be related: [Thomas Ward Markham in Nichol Hill], I think we are so far and still ?. Exclude my Markhams here to make your tree simpler ?. These are yours. I need a few moments to change my angle of view .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] =========================================
The census asked for all those who slept in the house on the night that the census was taken, not who was there during the daytime! I am reminded of the chap who handed in a blank form. He told the enumerator that his wife had been delivered of twins the night before and no-one had slept in the house since! (sorry!) Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bart Simon Sent: 17 May 2012 23:48 To: RW ENG-LINCS; RW UK; Yahoo TW95 Subject: Re: [LIN] [MARKHAM-UK] George Markham b:1823 Louth Lincs [!!!] MGC: [Speculation Mode]: Well, I am slowly learning Louth. I spent some time in Google Map Street View. Nichol Hill runs into Eastgate, and Eastgate runs into Upgate where St. James is. The 'Street View' shows one even better just how close everything is. FRANCIS MARKHAM OF UPGATE : Time line (TL) suggests he could be the son of your George Markham b:1771. and brother to John Markham, (Coachman) b:1803. Francis Markham MUST BE this person (?): [Francis Markham, Pelham Square, Bricklayer.]. [1828-9: Markham, Frans. Upgate, Bricklayer + Builder; George Tatam, Hollow Gate, Bricklayer; John Smith, Goose Pool, Bricklayer]. I suspect George Tatam Bricklayer is : [Louth St. James m:1811-01-17 George Tatam + Mary Markham]. He is also the [George Tatam, Grimsby Road]. MM must be yours. This Smith family comes in close too. [DougH Says: Francis Markham who witnessed John & Frances marriage (a brother of John perhaps?)]: FM is probably his brother or close enough. Francis Markham has a son John Markham b:1848, and it is probably [John Markham, Upgate.] (?). There is also one [John Markham, Ramsgate, Auctioneer.] to follow. [Hy Campion, (Game-Butcher), Upgate]. [Wm. Bennett, Eastgate, Painter (With my Hannah Markham, Painter !)]: Or .... My Hannah Markham would be the one given to be Locos, maybe this is your Hannah Markham next to the Bennett family ?. A bit more time we can sort it out. [Hanh. Markham, Coach builder, etc., Corn Market; Gospel Gate.]. My Thomas Markham who m. Hannah Ward was a Coach Maker (Trains?), this 'other/same?' Hannah Markham is a painter of signs [< Maybe yours ?]. 1828: [William Dawson, Eastgate, Basket Maker]. 1828: [William Markham, Maiden Lane, Printer (?)]: I currently do not know how he might fit in. === GM:1823 - WHERE ARE YOU !!! : I took much thought today to ask myself how come GM:1823 is never around. The census was always on a Sunday. Unlike these other Markhams, which 'might' be of near kin, which is why I am following this one for a short while, he does not seem to have a 'business' in the Louth Directory as such. He is always out. I am wondering if he is this one (?): [Louth Carriers: Laceby: Markham & Swaby]. No-one else yet would fit this bill. [Louth Eske Hundred: Wold and Marsh divisions. The Wold Division occupies the west side of the hundred and comprises the town of Louth, the villages of Authorpe, Burwell, Calcethorp, Cockerington St. Leonard, Cockerington St. Mary, Elkington North, Elkington South, Farforth with Maidenwell, Gayton le Wold, Hallington, Haugham, Keddington, Kelstern, Louth Park, Maltby, Muckton, Raithby, Ruckland, Stewton, Tathwell, Welton le Wold, Withcall, and Wykham.]. In the Louth St. James Church records, there is a pre-1800 line of Markham, that goes back a few decades or so, possibly my Markhams. Will come back to it. The Markham/Surfleet lineage of Elkington etc., might also want to see if you connect to the Markhams I speak of ?. Interesting to note the big shots ANNESLEY-MARKHAM family (Different Markham family and DNA), impact 'over' Louth. I have to note the nearness of some families near Markhams in Louth: FORMAN - WARD - JACKSON - RYALL - ADLARD - JOHNSON - SNOWDEN - ROBINSON - ETC. This WARD family must be of near kin, no doubt, and FORMAN possibly related to the FOREMAN family in the early Rhodesia days ?. === [HELP ME] : I would like to know where on Google Maps I can find each of the following places : Louth Park - Pelham Square - Hollow Gate - Goose Pool. === My First Guess: GM:1823 must be nearby and maybe living in Eastgate or close enough!. In 1651 census it seems neither of them are at home, and he is never at home on a Sunday!. GM:1823 has a set agenda that always keeps him out of Louth on a Sunday. I 'think' he might be GM:1823, Saddler, Harness Maker, + maybe? CARRIER !. NOTE: The Post Office is in EASTGATE. On SUNDAY 1851 census day, Rebecca 'Maria' Markham with '6 mo' son Thomas, is visiting John Smith + family. Rebecca is visiting a neighbour next door or over the road from where she lives. She would not have WALKED far to visit, since she her husband is away on SUNDAY, with her '6 mo' baby boy. Since he is away from home, she and her son are visiting, means no-one is at home to be enumerated!. Her friends call her 'Maria'. When I look at one chap John Swaby 'Carrier', Louth? to Alford every Wed. + Sat. from St. James' St., to Hull from St. James' every Thurs., to Spilsby from St. James' every Monday morning. GM:1823 was Saddler + Harness Maker <1851 Census. But by 1856: In Whites 1856 (!!!) Dir. Lincs., under 'SADDLERS' there is no GM:1823. But under 'CARRIERS': [Louth Carriers: Laceby: Markham & Swaby]. So John Swaby is doing the southern or SE trips, and Markham is doing the northern trips. I wonder what day the Laceby trips would be ?. [... and John Swaby, from Johnson's warehouse & Mariners' Tavern, every Friday]. Actually as I write, I research as I write, my Thomas Markham m:1818 Hannah Ward, correct for persons, maybe not occ.?, is still mine, this Thomas Markham + Hannah Markham of Louth, is causing problems in my own tree. This [Thomas Markham + Hannah Markham of Louth] must be yours ?. There is a problem between the PAINTERS + COACHMEN etc. The occ/prof of my TM:1790 Wrawby must be checked !!!. I was given that this TM + HM of Louth should be mine, even though they have children born there, my TM:1790 Wrawby 'Coach Maker' in Louth, ???, your JOHN MARKHAM:1803 'Coachman', I need time to map this out precisely. NOTE: Loosely given, the coach builder + painters 'might' both be yours. [Wm. Bennett, Eastgate, Painter (With Hannah Markham!)]: Is this is yours ?. [Hanh. Markham, Coach builder, etc., Corn Market; Gospel Gate]: Is this yours then ?. The dg is the painter and the mother? (widow?) the coach builder ?. 90% of your Markhams are here ?. No wonder I am confused. But we might still be related: [Thomas Ward Markham in Nichol Hill], I think we are so far and still ?. Exclude my Markhams here to make your tree simpler ?. These are yours. I need a few moments to change my angle of view .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ========================================= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello, I am new to the list. I am researching the surname Kendall and their connection to Lincolnshire: Thomas Kendall b: Bef. 1 December 1788 in Baptised Waddingham St Mary's Lincolnshire married Fanny Dennis b: June 1790 in Scotter Lincolnshire m: 5 May 1812 in St Mary's Church Waddingham Lincolnshire We hope to find connections between the American Kendall families and our English roots. Any assistance or direction would be appreciated. We are conducting a Kendall DNA Project to help supplement our conventional genealogy. If you would like to share your family history or learn more about our project please contact me at ScottDKendall@gmail.com Thank you Scott