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    1. Re: [LIN] Admin. note: June theme
    2. John Rylatt
    3. I have a William RILOTT presumably married to Jane sometime late 1699 to 1703. They had 6 children all baptized Anwick between 1703 and 1714 ( a baby born every other year). Jane was buried in Anwick 5 Dec 1719. William later married Ann FRANCIS (baptized Quadring 28 Sep 1700) in Anwick 2 Feb 1722/23. There were 3 more children all baptized Anwick from 1723 to 1729. William was buried in Anwick 20 May 1731. My question is when, where and if William and Jane ever married? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Mills" <louis_mills@att.net> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: [LIN] Admin. note: June theme So, your task for June is to find out if they really did marry. Did they flit off to Hull to tie that knot, or up to Gretna Green? There were several places in England where the vicar didn't ask embarrassing questions and might let you marry regardless of age or stupidity. As long as you paid the fee. It might explain why you can't find them in the Lincolnshire FHS marriage indexes. And if you want a little fun, look up "Wife sale" in the archives of this mailing list. SO ask for help. Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/09/2012 09:58:09
    1. [LIN] Bastardy Cases in the Newspaper
    2. Anne Cole
    3. LRSM = Lincoln, Rutland and Stamford Mercury Full details from the newspaper are given below; I have no further information. LRSM 25 July 1856 Spittlegate Petty Sessions 18 July Daniel WILSON, of Braceby, was charged by Sarah RASEN with being the father of her illegitimate child. Ordered to pay 1s. per week. Lincoln Kesteven Petty Sessions 18 July Wm. GREEN, of Metheringham, was ordered to pay 1s. 6d. weekly towards the support of the illegitimate child of Esther NORTON. Lincoln Lindsey Petty Sessions 18 July It was ordered that Robt. ROW pay 1s. 6d. weekly towards the support of the illegitimate child of Eliz. RASKELL. LRSM 1 August 1856 Boston Petty Sessions 30 July Mr. YORK, solicitor, appeared on behalf of John WILKINSON of Kirton, labourer, to answer a summons obtained by Eliz. BRINKLEY, singlewoman, charging him with being the putative father of her illegitimate child. After hearing several witnesses the application was dismissed for want of sufficient testimony. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

    06/09/2012 05:54:24
    1. Re: [LIN] Marston
    2. Judith Harper
    3. Thank you Nivard - I trawled all around the Genuki site and couldn't find what I wanted but knew it was there somehere. Thanks for taking the time. Judith Harper Nelson, NZ On 06/06/2012 20:56, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Judith > > You can normally answer this sort of question by googling for the place > name and Genuki which gives > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Marston/ > > Another ploy is to google for the words Registration District followed > by the place name > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/newark.html > > You can check the birth registration yourself at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ > > Select Search and then birth selecting the District Newark and entering > the name (with years to and from if required) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > >

    06/06/2012 03:59:24
    1. [LIN] Marston - what district
    2. Judith Harper
    3. Could anyone please tell me what registration district Marston, Lincolnshire, is in? And is anyone able to help me check out a birth registration there in 1848? Thanks -- Judith Harper Nelson, NZ

    06/06/2012 02:47:51
    1. Re: [LIN] Marston - what district
    2. David Meredith
    3. There's a Marston which was a chapelry in the parish of Hougham. The Hougham baptism registers for 1848 are online at.... http://www.lincstothepast.com/Baptisms/605244.record?pt=T David Meredith Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: Darren Wheatley Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:49 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marston - what district Hi, You could also have a look at this: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/places/index.html The PDF file (link on the page) also shows Marston being in the Newark RD. Regards Darren. On 6 Jun 2012, at 09:56, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Judith > > You can normally answer this sort of question by googling for the place > name and Genuki which gives > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Marston/ > > Another ploy is to google for the words Registration District followed > by the place name > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/newark.html > > You can check the birth registration yourself at > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ > > Select Search and then birth selecting the District Newark and entering > the name (with years to and from if required) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 06/06/2012 09:47, Judith Harper wrote: >> >> Could anyone please tell me what registration district Marston, >> Lincolnshire, is in? And is anyone able to help me check out a birth >> registration there in 1848? >> >> Thanks >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/06/2012 05:00:33
    1. Re: [LIN] Marston - what district
    2. Darren Wheatley
    3. Hi, You could also have a look at this: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/places/index.html The PDF file (link on the page) also shows Marston being in the Newark RD. Regards Darren. On 6 Jun 2012, at 09:56, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Judith > > You can normally answer this sort of question by googling for the place > name and Genuki which gives > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Marston/ > > Another ploy is to google for the words Registration District followed > by the place name > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/newark.html > > You can check the birth registration yourself at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ > > Select Search and then birth selecting the District Newark and entering > the name (with years to and from if required) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 06/06/2012 09:47, Judith Harper wrote: >> >> Could anyone please tell me what registration district Marston, >> Lincolnshire, is in? And is anyone able to help me check out a birth >> registration there in 1848? >> >> Thanks >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/06/2012 04:49:57
    1. Re: [LIN] Marston - what district
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Judith You can normally answer this sort of question by googling for the place name and Genuki which gives http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Marston/ Another ploy is to google for the words Registration District followed by the place name http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/newark.html You can check the birth registration yourself at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ Select Search and then birth selecting the District Newark and entering the name (with years to and from if required) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/06/2012 09:47, Judith Harper wrote: > > Could anyone please tell me what registration district Marston, > Lincolnshire, is in? And is anyone able to help me check out a birth > registration there in 1848? > > Thanks >

    06/06/2012 03:56:40
    1. [LIN] GRESHAM/HARRISON/MOORE/CHALLANS
    2. I have been looking for a baptism record and indeed a burial for my gggg grandfather Adam Gresham for quite some time. I had something of a breakthrough recently when I discovered an entry on the LFHS Death Duties CD that named Adam Gressam as a 'natural son' of Adam Harrison who died in 1804 at Boothby Graffoe. I believe that Adam H was born at nearby Coleby in 1725. Documented information that I have for my Adam Gresham is that he married in 1772 at Billinghay and that he and his wife Maria had their children there. I also have a copy of a Dissenters Certificate for him - 1786 at Timberland. He appears as a freeholder at Billinghay in the 1807 Register of Electors and I have a copy of his will proved in 1814. On the evidence of his marriage date he would have been born in about 1750 say and I think it very probable that he is the beneficiary named in Adam H's will despite the variation in spelling of the surname. Naturally I have obtained a copy of the will but it adds little to the information on the Death Duties CD. Adam G was the main beneficiary - others named are several Moores (referred to as kinsmen), kinswoman Lucy Rylatt (also a Moore prior to marriage) and kinswoman Elizabeth referred to as wife of Robert Challans, also brother William Harrison and sister Mary Harrison. I have also examined a copy of the LFHS publication Poor Law index Part 8 fully expecting to find a Bastardy Paper relating to what I understand to be the illegitimate birth of Adam GRESSAM. Whilst the name Adam Harrison does appear there the timeframe does not match nor is there a match on date with a number of Gresham women whose names appear. I really thought that the discovery of Adam G on the Death Duties CD was a significant step forward but there does not seem to be a baptism around 1750 for Adam Gressam or Gresham in any of the on-line indices nor specifically at Boothby or Coleby so I am still looking for that elusive record. Similarly I cannot find any links between the Harrisons, Moores and the Challans. I would have expected to see some marriages between them and hoped that these might open up some new lines of enquiry. Does any lister have a connection with the above? Alternatively can anyone suggest a way forward. Peter Knott

    06/06/2012 03:36:02
    1. Re: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL)
    2. Peter HOLMES
    3. Maria, My Mary Ann BURRELL's dob has been estimated - taken from the 1891 census which of course only gave her age. My estimate is before 1857 in Gosberton (Clough). I located a baptism in Surfleet on 3/4 1857 as well. The children she had by John Thomas HOLMES were Albert, Arthur, Grace & Walter. She had at least one more after she left him Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maria Borrill Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 2:18 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL) Have you got a year of birth for Mary BURRILL, I have a Mary born in Gainsborough C1875 whose mother was Mary Elizabeth BURRILL nee BORRILL. Mary's maternal Aunt was Louisa BORRILL. Maria ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/05/2012 12:04:52
    1. Re: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL)
    2. Maria Borrill
    3. Tony Harrion's post <quote> George Antony Holmes marriage at Gainsbro 1903 2Q on the same page a Mary Louisa Burrell, a possibility? <quote> and Pam Downes <quote> In 1911 there's an Anthony (sic) Holmes with wife Mary living in Cowbit which is in Spalding registration district. Mary and eldest child (George) born Gainsborough. In 1901 there's a George A Holmes, right age and birthplace living in Gainsborough, and also in the household is a William V Holmes, who is an elder brother. <quote> I wondered if this Mary was connected to my husbands BORRILL line through her mother Mary Elizabeth BURRILL nee BORRILL. Maria

    06/04/2012 05:30:03
    1. Re: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL)
    2. Peter HOLMES
    3. Tony & Pam, Thanks for the detective work. I'll see if I can tie this interesting BURRELL (back) to HOLMES into my HOLME tree. Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Downes Sent: Monday, 4 June 2012 8:13 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL) Hi Tony, I reckon that find is spot on. In 1911 there's an Anthony (sic) Holmes with wife Mary living in Cowbit which is in Spalding registration district. Mary and eldest child (George) born Gainsborough. In 1901 there's a George A Holmes, right age and birthplace living in Gainsborough, and also in the household is a William V Holmes, who is an elder brother. Mary isn't listed as living at home in 1901, but Frampton Terrace where her parents lived ain't a million miles away from Tooley Street where George Holmes was living. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 04/06/2012 12:24, Tony Harrison wrote: > Hi Peter > On FreeBMD there is a George Antony Holmes marriage at Gainsbro 1903 2Q on > the same page a Mary Louisa Burrell, a possibility? > Regards > Tony. >

    06/04/2012 03:06:19
    1. Re: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL)
    2. Maria Borrill
    3. Have you got a year of birth for Mary BURRILL, I have a Mary born in Gainsborough C1875 whose mother was Mary Elizabeth BURRILL nee BORRILL. Mary's maternal Aunt was Louisa BORRILL. Maria

    06/04/2012 01:18:10
    1. Re: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL)
    2. Pam Downes
    3. Hi Tony, I reckon that find is spot on. In 1911 there's an Anthony (sic) Holmes with wife Mary living in Cowbit which is in Spalding registration district. Mary and eldest child (George) born Gainsborough. In 1901 there's a George A Holmes, right age and birthplace living in Gainsborough, and also in the household is a William V Holmes, who is an elder brother. Mary isn't listed as living at home in 1901, but Frampton Terrace where her parents lived ain't a million miles away from Tooley Street where George Holmes was living. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 04/06/2012 12:24, Tony Harrison wrote: > Hi Peter > On FreeBMD there is a George Antony Holmes marriage at Gainsbro 1903 2Q on > the same page a Mary Louisa Burrell, a possibility? > Regards > Tony. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter HOLMES"<pgh@multiline.com.au> > To: "Lincolnshire new"<eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:40 AM > Subject: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL) > > >> G'day from Western Australia, >> >> >> >> In the 1880's-90's John Thomas HOLMES of Pinchbeck's wife was placed in >> care >> and for several years Mary Ann BURRELL was his housekeeper. >> >> >> >> During that time he fathered several children with Mary between 1886 to >> 1889. I'm still researching those matters. >> >> >> >> However, when reading an 1839/1954 summary of HOLMES births for >> Lincolnshire >> from "freebmd" I spotted in March qtrs of 1912& 1915 for Spalding RD 2 >> HOLMES births where the mother's maiden name was BURRELL. Children's >> names >> were Hilda M& William V HOLMES. (Also just noticed that Roy HOLMES b 4th >> qtr 1925 had a mother with maiden name of BURRELL). >> >> >> >> In these instances it looks as though BURRELL has married back in to the >> HOLMES family! >> >> >> >> > From what I know both families were living in the late 1800's and >>> early/mid >> 1900's in the Pinchbeck, Donington& Gosberton areas around Spalding. >> >> >> >> Can anyone throw light on the first names of the mother** and which HOLMES >> was the husband/father? (** could be Grace Holmes BURRELL). >> >> >> >> Peter Holmes >> >>

    06/04/2012 07:12:50
    1. Re: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL)
    2. Tony Harrison
    3. Hi Peter On FreeBMD there is a George Antony Holmes marriage at Gainsbro 1903 2Q on the same page a Mary Louisa Burrell, a possibility? Regards Tony. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter HOLMES" <pgh@multiline.com.au> To: "Lincolnshire new" <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:40 AM Subject: [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL) > G'day from Western Australia, > > > > In the 1880's-90's John Thomas HOLMES of Pinchbeck's wife was placed in > care > and for several years Mary Ann BURRELL was his housekeeper. > > > > During that time he fathered several children with Mary between 1886 to > 1889. I'm still researching those matters. > > > > However, when reading an 1839/1954 summary of HOLMES births for > Lincolnshire > from "freebmd" I spotted in March qtrs of 1912 & 1915 for Spalding RD 2 > HOLMES births where the mother's maiden name was BURRELL. Children's > names > were Hilda M & William V HOLMES. (Also just noticed that Roy HOLMES b 4th > qtr 1925 had a mother with maiden name of BURRELL). > > > > In these instances it looks as though BURRELL has married back in to the > HOLMES family! > > > >>From what I know both families were living in the late 1800's and >>early/mid > 1900's in the Pinchbeck, Donington & Gosberton areas around Spalding. > > > > Can anyone throw light on the first names of the mother** and which HOLMES > was the husband/father? (** could be Grace Holmes BURRELL). > > > > Peter Holmes > > Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes > > [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington > then > Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. > [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER > (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S > Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario > Canada > & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless > stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/04/2012 06:24:37
    1. [LIN] HOLMES children 1910's (mother BURRELL)
    2. Peter HOLMES
    3. G'day from Western Australia, In the 1880's-90's John Thomas HOLMES of Pinchbeck's wife was placed in care and for several years Mary Ann BURRELL was his housekeeper. During that time he fathered several children with Mary between 1886 to 1889. I'm still researching those matters. However, when reading an 1839/1954 summary of HOLMES births for Lincolnshire from "freebmd" I spotted in March qtrs of 1912 & 1915 for Spalding RD 2 HOLMES births where the mother's maiden name was BURRELL. Children's names were Hilda M & William V HOLMES. (Also just noticed that Roy HOLMES b 4th qtr 1925 had a mother with maiden name of BURRELL). In these instances it looks as though BURRELL has married back in to the HOLMES family! >From what I know both families were living in the late 1800's and early/mid 1900's in the Pinchbeck, Donington & Gosberton areas around Spalding. Can anyone throw light on the first names of the mother** and which HOLMES was the husband/father? (** could be Grace Holmes BURRELL). Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch).

    06/04/2012 04:40:46
    1. Re: [LIN] Marital Status puzzle
    2. PAMELA BAILLIE
    3. John Barker 1841 with Elizabeth 60 Jane 8 and William 9 As previous told over 15 yrs of age ages shown in blocks of 5 ie 50 55 60 cannot assume this John is born 1791   1851 Spalding John Barker age 66 x Bourne with Eliz 66, wife x Swaffield, Jane 19 x Spalding dau, William 19 x Spalding son which is same unit as above 1841   1851 Spalding John Barker visitor age 63 x Bourne with John Edward I make that 2 John Barkers in Spalding 1851 this age group ________________________________ From: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2012, 7:33 Subject: Re: [LIN] Marital Status puzzle Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! Records don't always lie, not always wrong as such, they try to tell you something. This is like flipping a coin and asking Heads or Tails. A coin had 3 sides to it: AN ANSWER: C1841: Barker    John    1791    Lincs          Spalding, Spalding C1851: Barker    John    1785    Bourne        Spalding, Spalding C1851: Barker    John    1788    Bourne        Spalding, Spalding There are at least 2 maybe 3 John Barker in Spalding. TWO John Barker are born in Bourne. Bourne + Spalding are only one town apart. Simply, there is more than one John Barker connected to Bourne + Spalding.... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ======================================================= Spalding 1810: [John Barker bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Allen spinster of this parish]. [Dates given for 3 consecutive Sundays with the last date being 04-03-1810]. Bourne 1811: [John Barker bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Allen widow of the same parish married 07-01-1811]. [I understand the couple did not m:1810 Spalding for some reason] and decided to wait till they could m:1811 Bourne. I am puzzled why the marital status of Elizabeth is given as a widow in 1811 when the year before she is given as spinster. I am looking for the baptisms of 3 children all surnamed BARKER who were according to the ages given on census records born between 1809 to 1814 at Spalding. The children are: Miles, Leonard, Catherine, and all give fathers name John when they got married. ===================================================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/03/2012 04:28:04
    1. Re: [LIN] Marital Status puzzle
    2. Bart Simon
    3. Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! Records don't always lie, not always wrong as such, they try to tell you something. This is like flipping a coin and asking Heads or Tails. A coin had 3 sides to it: AN ANSWER: C1841: Barker John 1791 Lincs Spalding, Spalding C1851: Barker John 1785 Bourne Spalding, Spalding C1851: Barker John 1788 Bourne Spalding, Spalding There are at least 2 maybe 3 John Barker in Spalding. TWO John Barker are born in Bourne. Bourne + Spalding are only one town apart. Simply, there is more than one John Barker connected to Bourne + Spalding.... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ======================================================= Spalding 1810: [John Barker bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Allen spinster of this parish]. [Dates given for 3 consecutive Sundays with the last date being 04-03-1810]. Bourne 1811: [John Barker bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Allen widow of the same parish married 07-01-1811]. [I understand the couple did not m:1810 Spalding for some reason] and decided to wait till they could m:1811 Bourne. I am puzzled why the marital status of Elizabeth is given as a widow in 1811 when the year before she is given as spinster. I am looking for the baptisms of 3 children all surnamed BARKER who were according to the ages given on census records born between 1809 to 1814 at Spalding. The children are: Miles, Leonard, Catherine, and all give fathers name John when they got married. =====================================================

    06/03/2012 02:33:03
    1. Re: [LIN] Marital Status puzzle
    2. Diana Robinson
    3. Assuming that these are not two different coincidentally named couples - and such coincidences do happen - one rather high drama speculation could be that someone did indeed speak up at the bans to point out that the lady was in fact already married in another parish, so that the marriage in Spalding did not take place. Fast forward a few months and perhaps "Mr. Allen" conveniently passes on (cause of death unknown?) so that the marriage can and does then take place in the location where people actually knew that she was a widow, i.e. Bourne. Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: corbyguy [mailto:corbyguy@ntlworld.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 9:10 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Marital Status puzzle Hello I have a marital status puzzle regarding a marriage. In the marriage banns book for Spalding in 1810 there is an entry given for a John Barker bachelor of this parish and an Elizabeth Allen spinster of this parish and then dates given for 3 consecutive Sundays with the last date being 04th March 1810. Now in the marriage register for Bourne for 1811 there is an entry for a John Barker bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Allen widow of the same parish married 07th January 1811. Now I would understand that the couple did not get married in 1810 at Spalding for some reason and therefore decided to wait till they could get married hence in 1811 at Bourne but I am puzzled as to why the marital status of Elizabeth is given as a widow in 1811 when the year before she is given as spinster. One of which has to be a mistake but which one? Also, I am looking for the baptisms of 3 children all surnamed BARKER who were according to the ages given on census records born between 1809 to 1814 at Spalding. The children are named, Miles, Leonard and Catherine and they all give the fathers name of John when they got married. Any help will be greatfully received. Jamie Neagle

    06/02/2012 08:42:54
    1. Re: [LIN] Marital Status puzzle
    2. Good day Just wondering if they omitted it in Spalding as to her being a Widow My Question is what did the Marriage Bands state as to where the Bride's Place of Residence was ? On FreeREG Lins. she is listed as being a Widow with the correct date of the Marriage I would agree with the Parish Records for the Marriage Bill Stratton Cole Harbour NS Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "corbyguy" <corbyguy@ntlworld.com> > Hello > > > > I have a marital status puzzle regarding a marriage. > > > > In the marriage banns book for Spalding in 1810 there is an entry given > for a John Barker bachelor of this parish and an Elizabeth Allen spinster > of this parish and then dates given for 3 consecutive Sundays with the > last date being 04th March 1810. > > > > Now in the marriage register for Bourne for 1811 there is an entry for a > John Barker bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Allen widow of the same > parish married 07th January 1811. > > > > Now I would understand that the couple did not get married in 1810 at > Spalding for some reason and therefore decided to wait till they could get > married hence in 1811 at Bourne but I am puzzled as to why the marital > status of Elizabeth is given as a widow in 1811 when the year before she > is given as spinster. One of which has to be a mistake but which one? >

    06/02/2012 08:12:52
    1. [LIN] Marital Status puzzle
    2. corbyguy
    3. Hello I have a marital status puzzle regarding a marriage. In the marriage banns book for Spalding in 1810 there is an entry given for a John Barker bachelor of this parish and an Elizabeth Allen spinster of this parish and then dates given for 3 consecutive Sundays with the last date being 04th March 1810. Now in the marriage register for Bourne for 1811 there is an entry for a John Barker bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Allen widow of the same parish married 07th January 1811. Now I would understand that the couple did not get married in 1810 at Spalding for some reason and therefore decided to wait till they could get married hence in 1811 at Bourne but I am puzzled as to why the marital status of Elizabeth is given as a widow in 1811 when the year before she is given as spinster. One of which has to be a mistake but which one? Also, I am looking for the baptisms of 3 children all surnamed BARKER who were according to the ages given on census records born between 1809 to 1814 at Spalding. The children are named, Miles, Leonard and Catherine and they all give the father’s name of John when they got married. Any help will be greatfully received. Jamie Neagle

    06/01/2012 08:09:37