Sorry, pressed the send button before I had finished on previous message. The wills are in the Archives even though they do not appear in the Lincs to the Past catalogue. Go to the web site and search by Lincoln Consistory Court wills index. You may be able to order photocopies using the reference numbers shown. Meg > > Can anyone tell me whether copies of wills are available from the Lincs > county archives even if they don't appear in search results on > lincstothepast. Having reached a bit of an impasse I've been revisiting > some old research notes (I thought they were detailed enough at the time!!!) > and have found that some time ago I came across references for wills of > individuals with the surname Balm or Balme who I didn't then know were our > Balms. I assume they must be from the LCC Wills Calendar. I've tried > searching for them online in the hope of ordering copies of one or two, but > can't find them. >

There are copies of the wills you mention at Lincolnshire Archives even though they do not appear on the catalogue. > > Subject: [LIN] Wills: availability > > Anyone have any ideas where I can find them/get hold of > copies? The ones I'm most keen to look at are for Richard Balm (or it could > have been Balme in his case), snr, yeo. of Great Gonerby (LCC Wills 1766/10) > and John Balm, snr, farmer of Great Gonerby (LCC Wills 1795/21). I've also > noted that there are wills for Richard Balm (d. 1766) and his wife Elizabeth > (d. 1794)

Hi there, Lincolnshire Archives Office have wills prior to 1858. You could have a look at their website, see below, and contact them to see if they have what you want. http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/residents/archives/ Hope this helps. Judy. -------Original Message------- From: Sara Reid Date: 07/31/12 18:33:06 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Wills: availability Can anyone tell me whether copies of wills are available from the Lincs county archives even if they don't appear in search results on lincstothepast. Having reached a bit of an impasse I've been revisiting some old research notes (I thought they were detailed enough at the time!!!) and have found that some time ago I came across references for wills of individuals with the surname Balm or Balme who I didn't then know were our Balms. I assume they must be from the LCC Wills Calendar. I've tried searching for them online in the hope of ordering copies of one or two, but can't find them. Anyone have any ideas where I can find them/get hold of copies? The ones I'm most keen to look at are for Richard Balm (or it could have been Balme in his case), snr, yeo. of Great Gonerby (LCC Wills 1766/10) and John Balm, snr, farmer of Great Gonerby (LCC Wills 1795/21). I've also noted that there are wills for Richard Balm (d. 1766) and his wife Elizabeth (d. 1794) indexed as well. I was wondering whether anyone knew of any plans to put all the Lincs wills online? The National Library of Wales has done a wonderful job with Welsh wills and I think I've been a little spoilt by the ease of access! Thanks Sara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The references you have look adequate for the Archives to find them. Why not drop them an email? Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sara Reid Sent: 31 July 2012 18:32 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Wills: availability Can anyone tell me whether copies of wills are available from the Lincs county archives even if they don't appear in search results on lincstothepast. Having reached a bit of an impasse I've been revisiting some old research notes (I thought they were detailed enough at the time!!!) and have found that some time ago I came across references for wills of individuals with the surname Balm or Balme who I didn't then know were our Balms. I assume they must be from the LCC Wills Calendar. I've tried searching for them online in the hope of ordering copies of one or two, but can't find them. Anyone have any ideas where I can find them/get hold of copies? The ones I'm most keen to look at are for Richard Balm (or it could have been Balme in his case), snr, yeo. of Great Gonerby (LCC Wills 1766/10) and John Balm, snr, farmer of Great Gonerby (LCC Wills 1795/21). I've also noted that there are wills for Richard Balm (d. 1766) and his wife Elizabeth (d. 1794) indexed as well. I was wondering whether anyone knew of any plans to put all the Lincs wills online? The National Library of Wales has done a wonderful job with Welsh wills and I think I've been a little spoilt by the ease of access! Thanks Sara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me whether copies of wills are available from the Lincs county archives even if they don't appear in search results on lincstothepast. Having reached a bit of an impasse I've been revisiting some old research notes (I thought they were detailed enough at the time!!!) and have found that some time ago I came across references for wills of individuals with the surname Balm or Balme who I didn't then know were our Balms. I assume they must be from the LCC Wills Calendar. I've tried searching for them online in the hope of ordering copies of one or two, but can't find them. Anyone have any ideas where I can find them/get hold of copies? The ones I'm most keen to look at are for Richard Balm (or it could have been Balme in his case), snr, yeo. of Great Gonerby (LCC Wills 1766/10) and John Balm, snr, farmer of Great Gonerby (LCC Wills 1795/21). I've also noted that there are wills for Richard Balm (d. 1766) and his wife Elizabeth (d. 1794) indexed as well. I was wondering whether anyone knew of any plans to put all the Lincs wills online? The National Library of Wales has done a wonderful job with Welsh wills and I think I've been a little spoilt by the ease of access! Thanks Sara

These are now available from www.genfair.co.uk and www.parishchest.com. Please note that all prices on the Parish Chest website include VAT. Purchasers living outside the EU are advised to use Genfair. There is more information about these publications in the on-line Publications List on the LFHS website (address in my signature) and on the two sites mentioned above. New CDs Lincolnshire Marriage Index 1700-1837 Vol. 4 - Bolingbroke, Calcewaithe & Candleshoe, Horncastle and Louthesk Deaneries Horncastle Deanery Baptisms & Burials 1754-1812 Westwold Deanery Monumental Inscriptions Grantham Union Workhouse Minutes (extracts) Part 1 1863-1869 Horncastle Union Workhouse Minutes (extracts) Part 2 1842-1849 Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

On 30/07/2012 2:51 PM, eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Simpson (Sara Reid) > 2. Re: Simpson (candrew@kingston.net) > 3. Re: Slightly off History. (Diana Robinson) > 4. Admin note: Slightly off History. (Louis Mills) > 5. Re: Simpson (Keith) > 6. Re: Simpson (Lesley O'Connell) > 7. Re: ENG-LINCSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 313 (Barbara Titherington) > > > To contact the ENG-LINCSGEN list administrator, send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-LINCSGEN mailing list, send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5166 - Release Date: 07/30/12 Thank you to all the people who went to the trouble of finding answers to my query about John Simpson and wives, I appreciate it very much. Barbara in Aus.

Hi Lou My original email was off list in reply to Jan Moon's comments but she sent her reply to me to the list too. Then other people commented so I sent just a brief comment to the list too. Apologies from me and no more Olympics on the list now. I'm not a sports fan anyway! Jan Marchant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Mills" <louis_mills@att.net> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 5:45 AM Subject: [LIN] Admin note: Slightly off History. > Hi, Missing Lincs, > > I'm going to ask that we keep all discussion of the Olympics off list so > that we can comply with Rootsweb's original plan that we deal just with > family history in Lincolnshire. You're free to enjoy, praise, complain and > wonder about the Olumpics on your own, but let's keep the list free for > its intended purpose. > > Lou (list admin.) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5164 - Release Date: 07/30/12 >

Thank you Pam you are a good teacher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Downes" <pam@five-oaks.co.uk> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] stevenson > Rule number 1. > Always check on Genuki how many places in Lincolnshire share the same or > a similar name. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/parishes.html > > Rule number 2. > Make sure you enter the correct parish title on LLTP. > In to the 'how to search parish registers' section on the Lincs to the > Past site, if you scroll to the bottom of the instructions there's a > list of the correct parish titles to enter when searching. > http://www.lincstothepast.com/help/how-to-search-for-parish-registers/361.article > > William's marriage, in Claxby by Normanby: > http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=885112&iid=129745 > > Pam > Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/ > > > > On 29/07/2012 06:46, J & B.H. Stegeman wrote: >> When ever I try to look at records for Claxby in "Lincs to the past" I >> keep getting Moorby. What am I doing wrong.?? >> I am looking for a family of Stevenson >> William Stevenson married Sarah Quickfall in 1830 at Claxby she died in >> 1840 at Claxby. >> They had 3 children John born ? , Mary Ann born 1834 at Mk Rasen, Hannah >> 1836 at Rothwell. >> The children were mentioned in their grandfather William Quickfalls Will >> in 1846. >> Does anyone know about this family?? >> Bev on Bribie Island >> >> ------------------------------- >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could anyone please advise whether there are any indexes to Boston Parish Death Registers available for 1820 to 1840 For this time familysearch.org shows only 100 deaths, only one for St Botolph's. Thanks for your time Glenn

On 30/07/2012 12:55 AM, eng-lincsgen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: stevenson (Pam Downes) > 2. Re: Simpson (Pam Downes) > 3. Re: Simpson (Diana Robinson) > 4. Re: Slightly off History. (Diana Robinson) > 5. Re: Slightly off History. (Victor Markham) > 6. Re: Slightly off History. (Maureen Burton) > > > To contact the ENG-LINCSGEN list administrator, send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-LINCSGEN mailing list, send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5161 - Release Date: 07/28/12 Thanks Pam and Diana you,ve given me some new ideas of where to look and I appreciate you taking the time to answer my query. I've lived in Aus for 42 years and have only recently taken an interest in my ancestry and I have to do all the searching via the computer so knowing what sites are available is very helpful. Thanks to both of you.

Can someone please help me? I am looking for the age at death of William Rilot(t), buried Anwick 20th May 1731. The Film No. is 421892. Much appreciated for your help. Thanks, John.

I can confirm that John Simpson had four wives, 1st Elizabeth Armstead, 2nd Sarah Cooke 3rd Mary Codling and last one Theodosia/Dorcia Codling - I believe the last two were sisters. I am descended from Johns brother Thomas. If you require further info on this family let me know, I think we may have been in touch previously. Keith Simpson

The LFHS Parish Register Burials CD Volume 5 1813-1900 includes Boston St Botolph - it actually covers the whole of the area of Lincolnshire called Holland (East and West Elloe Deaneries and Holland East and West Deaneries). These should also be available on the NBI and on Find My Past, a pay per view website. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Thorpe Sent: 30 July 2012 06:15 To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] indexes to Boston deaths 1820 - 1840 Could anyone please advise whether there are any indexes to Boston Parish Death Registers available for 1820 to 1840 For this time familysearch.org shows only 100 deaths, only one for St Botolph's. Thanks for your time Glenn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Glen. Burials 1700-1905 for St Botolph church have already been transcribed and can be searched on the FreeReg website http://www.freereg.org.uk/. You should also consider checking Skirbeck which has also been transcribed. Mick FreeReg co-ordinator for Lincolnshire.

Indexes have been published by Lincolnshire Family History Society on CD (which includes more than just Boston St Botolph), and if you have a name then you can search on Findmypast, in the parish burials section.. Otherwise http://www.lincstothepast.com/ advanced search enter Boston St Botolph Par 1 in the 'with the exact phrase' box, and scroll down looking for burial registers covering the relevant years. (Note that there is more than one!) Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/ On 30/07/2012 06:14, Glenn Thorpe wrote: > Could anyone please advise whether there are any indexes to Boston > Parish Death Registers available for 1820 to 1840 > For this time familysearch.org shows only 100 deaths, only one for St > Botolph's. > Thanks for your time > Glenn > > ------------------------------- > > -- Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/

Barbara If you follow this link it will take you to the April 3 1841 baptism of Ann Simpson daughter of John and Theodosia Codlin 'called Simpson' so the couple were possibly not married at this point but living together as man and wife . http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=603358&iid=117246 However if you go back a couple of years to October 3 1839 you find the baptism of William Codling son of John and Mary Ann Simpson, with the annotation 'privately', ie privately baptised. So it would appear that John married Mary Ann, she died a few days after the birth of William ( her burial is recorded on October 12 1839 http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=621530&iid=116512) and John then took up with Theodocia/Dorcea, who was Mary Ann's younger sister and who possibly came to look after the baby. Although marriage to one's sister in law was forbidden by Canon Law, there are numerous examples of it and maybe that explains the baptismal entry, ie they were married but the priest did not recognise the marriage as it contravened ecclesiastical law. If you find information in the censuses much can be found by going first to Free BMD, which may provide leads and then to Lincs to the Past. Regards Lesley PS I have just scrolled down from Mary Ann's burial and found this: 1839 ' with a certificate from Reg(istra)r of Aswarby District, William Codling Simpson, only removed from Navenby on his mother's death, Nov'r 12th, Inf(an)t. ' So sad. -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Titherington Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:41 AM To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Simpson I have a John Simpson born 1805 Wellingore, Lincs in my family tree, on the 1851, 61, 71, and 1881 census's he was married to a Theodosia ? born 1817 Helpringham, Lincs. I haven't been able to find a marriage anywhere. I looked on Hugh Wallis's site and John and Theodosia are mentioned as parents of some children but I couldn't see a marriage. If I have the right person I think John was married to Elizabeth Armstead in 1823 Wellingore and she died 1828. In 1841 a John Simpson was married to a Dorcea born the same time and place as Theodosia and I found a marriage for John Simpson to Corcea Sophia Codling in 1841. Am trying to work out whether Dorcea changed her name to Theodosia or if they are two different people. I believe he must also have been married to someone else between 1828 and 1841 as there are children born in the 1830,s. I'm totally confused as I expect you will be reading this but if anyone on the list could shed some light on this I would be over the moon. Barbara in Aus.

I have a John Simpson born 1805 Wellingore, Lincs in my family tree, on the 1851, 61, 71, and 1881 census's he was married to a Theodosia ? born 1817 Helpringham, Lincs. I haven't been able to find a marriage anywhere. I looked on Hugh Wallis's site and John and Theodosia are mentioned as parents of some children but I couldn't see a marriage. If I have the right person I think John was married to Elizabeth Armstead in 1823 Wellingore and she died 1828. In 1841 a John Simpson was married to a Dorcea born the same time and place as Theodosia and I found a marriage for John Simpson to Corcea Sophia Codling in 1841. Am trying to work out whether Dorcea changed her name to Theodosia or if they are two different people. I believe he must also have been married to someone else between 1828 and 1841 as there are children born in the 1830,s. I'm totally confused as I expect you will be reading this but if anyone on the list could shed some light on this I would be over the moon. Barbara in Aus.

I often have to 'channel' my husband's late grandmother, Alice, who spoke the rural dialect with an accent so strong that my husband thought she was originally from another county until we started the family history stuff. With some names the spellings (and until you say them out loud it seems the actual names) can sometimes appear to change according to the whim of the parish clerk. They wrote what they thought they heard, so I imagine how she would have said it. My assumption is always that it is probably another individual to begin with, but if you investigate Dorcea and Corcea Sophia further you are likely to find that they had no other life other than in those particular records. We have a couple of Tryphenas as well - I had to use the 'Nanna Alice' trick to work out that was who a one-year old Royfeaner who died before the next census was. How they made an Ernestler out of a Henrietta is less clear! Sara -----Original Message----- From: Diana Robinson [mailto:drobins6@rochester.rr.com] Sent: 29 July 2012 12:56 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Simpson Remember that the majority of our ancestors from that time, particularly females, could not read or write. If you pronounce the last part of Theodosia, you get Docea, which is pretty close to Dorcea. I strongly suspect that is your answer. She probably did not officially change her name, but just "went by" some variation of Docea or Dorcea because that is what people called her. (My great grandmother's name was Tryphena and no two census enumerators ever got even close to similarity in their spellings!) Happy hunting!   Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Titherington [mailto:upu234@dodo.com.au] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:41 AM To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Simpson I have a John Simpson born 1805 Wellingore, Lincs in my family tree, on the 1851, 61, 71, and 1881 census's he was married to a Theodosia ? born 1817 Helpringham, Lincs. I haven't been able to find a marriage anywhere. I looked on Hugh Wallis's site and John and Theodosia are mentioned as parents of some children but I couldn't see a marriage. If I have the right person I think John was married to Elizabeth Armstead in 1823 Wellingore and she died 1828. In 1841 a John Simpson was married to a Dorcea born the same time and place as Theodosia and I found a marriage for John Simpson to Corcea Sophia Codling in 1841. Am trying to work out whether Dorcea changed her name to Theodosia or if they are two different people. I believe he must also have been married to someone else between 1828 and 1841 as there are children born in the 1830,s. I'm totally confused as I expect you will be reading this but if anyone on the list could shed some light on this I would be over the moon. Barbara in Aus.

I totally agree with you Victor. It is the LONDON, ENGLAND Olympics after all. Might give some people a chance to see what it used to be like and how it has moved forward through the centuries. I hesitate to say "improved" but then I am a curmudgeonly old soul who dislikes a lot of the changes that take place. LOL Mo xx On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Victor Markham <victor@markham.me.uk> wrote: > Why shouldn't it be Brit oriented? It was the same in other countries > wherever the Olympics took place. > > Victor > > On 29/07/2012 2:12 PM, Diana Robinson wrote: >> I'm finding that it was a bit too Brit-oriented to resonate with a lot of >> non-Brits., even though the commentators were doing their best to explain >> the references. I found it quite emotional, but then that's where I grew up. >> >> Happy hunting! >> >> Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) >> Now in Rochester, NY, USA >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John & Jan Marchant [mailto:jjmarchant@optusnet.com.au] >> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:46 AM >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LIN] Slightly off History. >> >> Another once off. >> >> Same here - although I am a Pom anyway, from way back. Haven't played the >> recorded Opening Ceremony yet - didn't get up at 5.30 am to see it all - so >> have yet to see the historical stuff, which looked really good on the news. >> >> Jan >> NSW >> Australia >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fay Fraser" <lekahfay@bigpond.net.au> >> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:54 AM >> Subject: [LIN] Slightly off History. >> >> >>> Lou, apologies this is a once off... but I just wanted to say.. >>> >>> Congratulations !!! on the Olympic Opening Ceremony... which took us from >>> a simple time in life in " Merry Ole England" with the Maypole Dancing, >>> through to the Industrial Revolution and WW1 to the Modern England as we >>> know it... I loved all the authentic Costumes and can viusalise what our >>> Ancestors must have looked like in those early days.. >>> >>> Fay >>> Queensland >>> Australia >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5157 - Release Date: 07/26/12 >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS