Are you stuck?  Have you set aside your family history because you are too busy to work on it?  Do you have "too many" questions? I had an employee once who was great on small projects of less than two hours, but he couldn't even get started on anything longer than that.  So I took to spending about 5 minutes with him each day, taking a small part of his big projects and breaking it down into a small piece that he could get done that day.  Eventually he didn't need my help and turned out to be very productive. Just like that person, many of us give up when faced with a thousand names and so many places to look.  So try these tricks: 1.  Put a half hour on your calender which you will devote to family history research, then DO IT. 2.  It doesn't matter if the person your researching may not be your relative.  Find out what planet they're from at least. 3.  Give yourself some reward for even just trying.  Didn't find anything?  Have an ice cream anyway. 4.  Slip a photo of a relative in the corner of a mirror as a reminder to keep going. 5.  Give yourself a deadline to accomplish something.  Some of us love deadlines, some of us don't. 6.  Do something easy and leave the hard work 'til later.  There is still a sense of accomplishment. 7.  Look up information on places your relative lived, worked or served in.  It might give you an idea for further research. 8.  Pull a random slip of paper from that stack you've been meaning to file.  What more could you find on the people listed? 9.  Got folders?  I've got a bunch, binders, too.  Open one to a random point and see what ideas it sparks. 10.  Go into our Archives (for the mailing list) and search for a family surname.  Did you read all those postings the first time?  Find anything you missed? 11.  Use an Internet search engine (like Yahoo or Google) and type in your relative's name.  Maybe something new will pop up. 12.  Ask us.  There are over 900 of us with Lincolnshire roots.  We may not all be descended from the Coriolani tribe the Romans found here, but we may be able to tell you where they buried their records. 13.  Read about some history.  Did the Potato Famine affect Lincolnshire?  What impact did the Steam Engine have on Lincolnshire?  Why is a tank called a tank?  Why don't we all have Viking surnames?  Who was Grim, anyway, and why is a town named after him?  What did Queen Eleanor do in Lincolnshire that is famous?  What is a Yellowbelly?  (All this and more are either in our Archives or on the Rootsweb site for Lincolnshire.)     My work here is done!         Lou

June, the last Thorold at Marston was Henry Thorold, now deceased, but I remember him from my childhood.   A "gentle" gentleman, he never married but used to use his own entrance from his manor house to the churchyard each Sunday for services and on occasion, when the vicar was away, actually used to take the service himself.   He also wrote this book if you are interested:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Collins-Guide-Cathedrals-Abbeys-Priories/dp/0002172410/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1344443532&sr=1-1  Regards Carole ________________________________ From: June Wilson <junewilson46@gmail.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 16:33 Subject: Re: [LIN] (no subject) Hi Bev seems Thorold had xzeats in Harmston,marston, looks like some were in the English civil war too, not sure how or where my partners fit yet but looks interesting would be great to know best wishes june On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM, J & B.H. Stegeman <beverley.stegeman@bigpond.com> wrote: > I have got a Alice Thorald Parkinson Quickfall born 1866 in Waltham, I found > a death notice for her in a local lincolnshire paper , and she always said > she was related to Lady Godiva. I contacted Octavia Randolph , an author who > wrote about Lady Godiva , she said that Lady Godiva's brother was Thorald > who owned land in Lincolnshire. > Bev on Bribie Island > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "June Wilson" <junewilson46@gmail.com> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: [LIN] (no subject) > > >> David >> many thanks for your kind help with this if im right alice Thorold >> suppose to be my partners 9th great gran, i lways  worry when a name >> of a family is important as it being for real anyway once again thank >> you and for your help over the years june wilson formerly swain >> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM, David Meredith >> <david.meredith@live.co.uk> wrote: >>> http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=618402&iid=362829 >>> >>> Harmston Parish Records - Baptisms, Burials & Marriages (1615-1616) >>> >>> Image 30 (On the left side, half way down...but you will need to increase >>> your screen magnification up to 150% + >>> >>> Alice Thorold daughter of Thomas Thorold gent? >>> was Christened the fourteenth daye of Januarie >>> >>> >>> David Meredith >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: June Wilson >>> Hi list >>> >>> please can someone help me, i'm looking  for a birth /baptism for >>> Alice Thorold I know she married in Norwell Notts to William >>> Sturtevant, she was born in Harmston in 1615 so far i cannot find >>> anything, kind regards june >>> >>> -- >>> WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN >>> >>> >>> FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER >>> >>> AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS >>> >>> http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN >> >> >> FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER >> >> AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS >> >> http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bev seems Thorold had xzeats in Harmston,marston, looks like some were in the English civil war too, not sure how or where my partners fit yet but looks interesting would be great to know best wishes june On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM, J & B.H. Stegeman <beverley.stegeman@bigpond.com> wrote: > I have got a Alice Thorald Parkinson Quickfall born 1866 in Waltham, I found > a death notice for her in a local lincolnshire paper , and she always said > she was related to Lady Godiva. I contacted Octavia Randolph , an author who > wrote about Lady Godiva , she said that Lady Godiva's brother was Thorald > who owned land in Lincolnshire. > Bev on Bribie Island > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "June Wilson" <junewilson46@gmail.com> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: [LIN] (no subject) > > >> David >> many thanks for your kind help with this if im right alice Thorold >> suppose to be my partners 9th great gran, i lways worry when a name >> of a family is important as it being for real anyway once again thank >> you and for your help over the years june wilson formerly swain >> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM, David Meredith >> <david.meredith@live.co.uk> wrote: >>> http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=618402&iid=362829 >>> >>> Harmston Parish Records - Baptisms, Burials & Marriages (1615-1616) >>> >>> Image 30 (On the left side, half way down...but you will need to increase >>> your screen magnification up to 150% + >>> >>> Alice Thorold daughter of Thomas Thorold gent? >>> was Christened the fourteenth daye of Januarie >>> >>> >>> David Meredith >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: June Wilson >>> Hi list >>> >>> please can someone help me, i'm looking for a birth /baptism for >>> Alice Thorold I know she married in Norwell Notts to William >>> Sturtevant, she was born in Harmston in 1615 so far i cannot find >>> anything, kind regards june >>> >>> -- >>> WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN >>> >>> >>> FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER >>> >>> AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS >>> >>> http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN >> >> >> FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER >> >> AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS >> >> http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk

I have got a Alice Thorald Parkinson Quickfall born 1866 in Waltham, I found a death notice for her in a local lincolnshire paper , and she always said she was related to Lady Godiva. I contacted Octavia Randolph , an author who wrote about Lady Godiva , she said that Lady Godiva's brother was Thorald who owned land in Lincolnshire. Bev on Bribie Island ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Wilson" <junewilson46@gmail.com> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] (no subject) > David > many thanks for your kind help with this if im right alice Thorold > suppose to be my partners 9th great gran, i lways worry when a name > of a family is important as it being for real anyway once again thank > you and for your help over the years june wilson formerly swain > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM, David Meredith > <david.meredith@live.co.uk> wrote: >> http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=618402&iid=362829 >> >> Harmston Parish Records - Baptisms, Burials & Marriages (1615-1616) >> >> Image 30 (On the left side, half way down...but you will need to increase >> your screen magnification up to 150% + >> >> Alice Thorold daughter of Thomas Thorold gent? >> was Christened the fourteenth daye of Januarie >> >> >> David Meredith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: June Wilson >> Hi list >> >> please can someone help me, i'm looking for a birth /baptism for >> Alice Thorold I know she married in Norwell Notts to William >> Sturtevant, she was born in Harmston in 1615 so far i cannot find >> anything, kind regards june >> >> -- >> WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN >> >> >> FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER >> >> AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS >> >> http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN > > > FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER > > AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS > > http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This will be the drain bank shown on Google maps at http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=south+drove+spalding&bav=on.2 ,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1280&bih=907&wrapid=tlif134437428169510&um=1&ie=UTF- 8&sa=N&tab=wl Hills Drain has partly been filled in but does show up on the map if you search nearby. It is in the parish of Deeping St Nicholas even though it is nearer to Spalding. Ignore the road just called A1175 on the aerial photograph. That is part of Spalding by pass. The road named Littleworth Drove is the old main road from Spalding to Deeping St Nicholas and on to Deeping St James & Market Deeping. As others have said Daniel Peake was the tenant and the land would have been simply used for grazing - the bank opposite the South Drove road side of the drain is still used for grazing from time to time as it is quite a wide strip of land. By the way I think you mean the Stamford Mercury? The notice you refer to appears in col 7, page 6 of the Stamford Mercury dated 4 February 1859 and lists various drains and existing tenants but the numbers are not £,s,d they are in fact the area A,R,P i.e Acres, Roods and Perches. The advert is for a new lease for 5 years to the highest bidder, with the auction taking place at the Harrow Inn, Deeping St Nicholas on Friday 11th February at 10 AM, so all the local farmers would have attended. Note that Daniel Peake also had lot 12 which would be the drain running north from the railway line and also lot 45 described as the north west side of North Drove which is actually to the west of South Drove. The landlord would have been similar to todays Welland and Deepings Internal Drainage Board http://www.wellandidb.org.uk and they still finance the maintenance of the drain system through rental of suitable grazing land and a rate on local farmers which many begrudge paying. Prior to 1939 the area was maintained by the Trustees of Deeping Fen appointed by Act of Parliament in 1801. Its doubtful that any lease documents would have survived. John R G Bland   Spalding   Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ Reg. Charity No 1000724 > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Penrose > Sent: 07 August 2012 02:49 > To: ENG-Lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Drains to be Auctioned > > In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's > property. > I want to know exactly what the following means:- > > "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St Nicholas > and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain to the Great > Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" > ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. > > Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to > regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone else? > What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining his farm? > > Regards from > Jill in New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

David many thanks for your kind help with this if im right alice Thorold suppose to be my partners 9th great gran, i lways worry when a name of a family is important as it being for real anyway once again thank you and for your help over the years june wilson formerly swain On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM, David Meredith <david.meredith@live.co.uk> wrote: > http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=618402&iid=362829 > > Harmston Parish Records - Baptisms, Burials & Marriages (1615-1616) > > Image 30 (On the left side, half way down...but you will need to increase > your screen magnification up to 150% + > > Alice Thorold daughter of Thomas Thorold gent? > was Christened the fourteenth daye of Januarie > > > David Meredith > > -----Original Message----- > From: June Wilson > Hi list > > please can someone help me, i'm looking for a birth /baptism for > Alice Thorold I know she married in Norwell Notts to William > Sturtevant, she was born in Harmston in 1615 so far i cannot find > anything, kind regards june > > -- > WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN > > > FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER > > AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS > > http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk

http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=618402&iid=362829 Harmston Parish Records - Baptisms, Burials & Marriages (1615-1616) Image 30 (On the left side, half way down...but you will need to increase your screen magnification up to 150% + Alice Thorold daughter of Thomas Thorold gent? was Christened the fourteenth daye of Januarie David Meredith -----Original Message----- From: June Wilson Hi list please can someone help me, i'm looking for a birth /baptism for Alice Thorold I know she married in Norwell Notts to William Sturtevant, she was born in Harmston in 1615 so far i cannot find anything, kind regards june -- WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jill, It is possible that the drain and silp [slipway] was being leased for the right to catch eels, and maybe wildfowling. In the 1950's I lived in north Lincolnshire, and the local drainage authority let, leased or licensed the right to set eel traps to a local fisherman on the river Ancholme. Much of the catch was sent of to London. Eel trapping was common practice on the drains of Lincolnshire in the past, John Hiles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Penrose" <jill.penrose@paradise.net.nz> To: <ENG-Lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:48 AM Subject: [LIN] Drains to be Auctioned > In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's > property. > I want to know exactly what the following means:- > > "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St > Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain > to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake > 3.2.16 pounds" > ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. > > Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to > regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone > else? What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining > his farm? > > Regards from > Jill in New Zealand

Hi list please can someone help me, i'm looking for a birth /baptism for Alice Thorold I know she married in Norwell Notts to William Sturtevant, she was born in Harmston in 1615 so far i cannot find anything, kind regards june -- WELCOME TO JUKIEVENN FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCHER AND HOME OF LONG COAT CHIHUAHUAS http://jukievenn.vpweb.co.uk

Jill I'm wondering if it means maintaining the drain - keeping it clear, free of weeds and obstructions, etc. Judith Harper Nelson, NZ On 07/08/2012 13:48, Jill Penrose wrote: > In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's property. > I want to know exactly what the following means:- > > "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" > ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. > > Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone else? What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining his farm? > > Regards from > Jill in New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I wish I could help with your query, but there are a few things that chime with information on one of the BALMs that I'm researching, so I hope that there is someone on the list who can give some more background on property and practices on the Fens. Our ancestor is John William BALM, who was living in Littleworth Drove, Wap of Ness, Deeping Fen in 1851 (described as an Ag Lab). The family was previously farming in Ingoldsby, Lincs (and before that Hanby) and John Wm and his family are back in Ingoldsby again in 1861 before moving to Snape, Suffolk (just long enough to have 2 children), possibly with a connection to draining fens again (it coincides with the discovery of the burial ship in Snape). Although family legend is that he was a railway signalman there, this seems unlikely since there was no railway there at that time! Learning more about the Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain might help me shed some light on what work they were involved in! Sara -----Original Message----- From: Jill Penrose [mailto:jill.penrose@paradise.net.nz] Sent: 07 August 2012 02:49 To: ENG-Lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Drains to be Auctioned In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's property. I want to know exactly what the following means:- "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone else? What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining his farm? Regards from Jill in New Zealand

In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's property. I want to know exactly what the following means:- "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone else? What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining his farm? Regards from Jill in New Zealand

Jill, The drain banks are were often let or rented to farmers or grazers to feed the cattle. Drain banks are a good source of grass and the cattle would feed and get their water from the river (locally known as drains). The auction could show the rent that the current tenant (Daniel Peake) is paying in the hope that other farmers or grazers would bid more to gain the lease for the next 5 years. The notice in the paper would advertise when the area is available for re-let, i.e. every 5 years because it says the lease runs for 5 years. Therefore unless the current tenant can agree new terms with the landlord, the drain bank would be re-advertised in late 1864 or early 1865. Daniel obviously has not agreed new terms and I should think the notice particulars would give a date when the lease term will start. The notice would be advertised regularly before the lease term started. Later in the 1930's land was often advertised for no rent. As farmers were so poor landlords were often pleased just to get a farmer to look after the farm for a couple of years. Regards John >> In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's property. >> I want to know exactly what the following means:- >> >> "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" >> ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. >> >> Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone else? What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining his farm? >> >> Regards from >> Jill in New Zealand > >

I am looking for my Thompson family from South Ferriby. Mother Elizabeth died 1825 in Sth Ferriby, father Samuel died 1834 in Sth Ferriby. the children I am looking for all baptised in Sth Ferriby are: Hannah baptised 1793, Ann bap 1793 , Tommason baptised 1797 buried 1796 , Tommison bap 1797 , Elizabeth bap 1799, Frances bap 1801, Mary bap 1802. All 6 girls were mentioned in their grandmothers Will in 1817 as living in Sth Ferriby. Has anyone seen these girls. I have tried looking for Tommison as it is an unusual name but can find nothing. Bev of Bribie Island

>From a visit to Lincs a few years ago I was struck by the importance of big drains historically, reclaimed land. Local maps addresses , place names etc show a very high significance of the name Drain . Standing out as landmarks ,so will definitely show in legal documentation more than most areas. My map local to ancestors land mentions South Drain , West Drain , Lords Drain,Werrington Drain, Highland Drain etc. Linc , Cambs and Northants farmers clearly have lives dominated by these historical Drains. Hope this paints the picture a little more. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Siudek Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:08 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Drains to be Auctioned Pure guesswork, but could it be the land running alongside the drain (plus the actual drain?) which is being let. Presumably the land could be used for agriculture - animal grazing maybe. I'm thinking 'slip' in the sense of slip road - giving access to the drain, or leading to the drain. I'd guess your ancestor currently had the lease, but it is being advertised, at the end of the tenancy. To identify it, it's named as land of which he is the tenant. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judith Harper Sent: 07 August 2012 04:57 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Drains to be Auctioned Jill I'm wondering if it means maintaining the drain - keeping it clear, free of weeds and obstructions, etc. Judith Harper Nelson, NZ On 07/08/2012 13:48, Jill Penrose wrote: > In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's property. > I want to know exactly what the following means:- > > "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" > ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. > > Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone else? What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining his farm? > > Regards from > Jill in New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pure guesswork, but could it be the land running alongside the drain (plus the actual drain?) which is being let. Presumably the land could be used for agriculture - animal grazing maybe. I'm thinking 'slip' in the sense of slip road - giving access to the drain, or leading to the drain. I'd guess your ancestor currently had the lease, but it is being advertised, at the end of the tenancy. To identify it, it's named as land of which he is the tenant. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judith Harper Sent: 07 August 2012 04:57 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Drains to be Auctioned Jill I'm wondering if it means maintaining the drain - keeping it clear, free of weeds and obstructions, etc. Judith Harper Nelson, NZ On 07/08/2012 13:48, Jill Penrose wrote: > In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's property. > I want to know exactly what the following means:- > > "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" > ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. > > Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone else? What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining his farm? > > Regards from > Jill in New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A slip in the foreground <http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/31/32/2313232_87dad058.jpg> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/08/2012 08:59, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Jill > > Given other similar adverts I have come across for my farming ancestors > I would say your Daniel PEAKE was leasing the rights to the drain and > slip for a period of time, probably five years and the land owner was > advertising the rights for the next five years after Daniels lease had > run out > > The slip being the way to enter a boat onto the drain its rather like > leasing the rights to a section of toll road , there would be a charge > for people to use the slipway and perhaps the drain

Hi Jill Given other similar adverts I have come across for my farming ancestors I would say your Daniel PEAKE was leasing the rights to the drain and slip for a period of time, probably five years and the land owner was advertising the rights for the next five years after Daniels lease had run out The slip being the way to enter a boat onto the drain its rather like leasing the rights to a section of toll road , there would be a charge for people to use the slipway and perhaps the drain A drain is a rather insignificant title for what may be quite a sizeable waterway, they were man made channels cut to drain water from the land but also formed canal like waterways used for barges and other boats Now mostly for pleasure boats and fishing eg <http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=drain+lincolnshire&view=detail&id=804462893A643A623EE7B0D2957C165A586DBF32&FORM=IDFRIR> So the lease would be for the rights to charge others to use the slip & drain for a period of five years I don't understand the way you have found the currency if thats how its displayed , usually it would be pound - shillings - pence but as there are 12 pence to a shilling Perhaps if you have a copy I can take a look at it and it may make more sense Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/08/2012 02:48, Jill Penrose wrote: > In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my > ancestor's property. I want to know exactly what the following > means:- > > "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St > Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills > Drain to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of > Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. > > Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel > need to regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let > it to someone else? What would he do with the land? Is it something > to do with draining his farm? > > Regards from Jill in New Zealand

Jill, My knowledge of Leasehold law is very shaky and patchy. However, the reference you have is probably issued by an auctioneer under instructions from the landowner who wishes to lease out parcels of land to the highest bidder. I am accustomed to leases of land and buildings being advertised on terms set out by the land owner or a head lessee. The actual rentals, and terms of repair etc are set out in a lease document which is a form of contract. However, a lookup on Wikipedia under English Contract Law should help you. The search hits produced this summary: - English contract law is a body of law regulating contracts in England and Wales. .... An auctioneer who publicises an auction as being without a reserve price falls under a duty to .... This goes typically for large engagements, including the sale of land, a lease of property over ... Shadwell v Shadwell [1860] EWHC CP J88 ... I don't believe the type of notice in your question was produced annually. It would have been produced when the Landowner or head lessee is looking for a new leaseholder or sub-leaseholder. Lincolnshire Archives or the National Archives may hold a copy of the actual leasehold documents HTH Richard Brown On 7 August 2012 02:48, Jill Penrose <jill.penrose@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > In Spalding Mercury 4 Feb 1859 it has a notice referring to my ancestor's property. > I want to know exactly what the following means:- > > "The Drain and Slip of the South Drove Drain. Drain Banks Deeping St Nicholas and Neighborhood to be let by auction ... Lot 1 from Hills Drain to the Great Northern Railway Bridge now in the tenure of Daniel Peake 3.2.16 pounds" > ... Will be let on lease for 5 years. > > Is it a notice that must be placed in paper regularly? Does Daniel need to regularly pay the rental of 3.2.16 or is he offering to let it to someone else? What would he do with the land? Is it something to do with draining his farm? > > Regards from > Jill in New Zealand -- Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. Member of: - E. Surrey Family History Society ) And in http://www.eastsurreyfhs.org.uk/ ) very Lincolnshire Family History Society ) good http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ ) company.

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