Keith, I sent your mail to a friend who is a Methodist and knows a lot about their records etc. This is what she said: The word 'Association' does not suggest Methodist. The Nottingham Association would be Quaker/Society of Friends. The Archives have some Lincs Quaker records on micro fiche but I can't see any for Alford/Rigsby although it is a likely area. I think Monk's Way have Susan? Davies book. At LA there are Brace's Quaker minutes etc. LA is Lincolnshire Archives. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith via Sent: 04 October 2014 08:48 To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] BEAN in Alford 1800 I have known for a long time that I had an ancestor John BEAN in Alford at the beginning of the 19th century. There are Settlement Examinations for him and his son which give interesting information. He is described as a Dissenting Minister but I was unable to discover anything else until I came across The Evangelical Magazine, Volume 10 which is available to view and download on Google Books. Under the heading Associations there is the following. The seventh general meeting of the Lincolnshire and Nottingham Association was held at Huttoft, near Alford, April 28 1802. On the preceding evening a sermon was preached by Mr.' Bean, of Alford, from John xiii. 34. Next morning the ministers met for prayer, and the arrangement of business; after which, the services of the day commenced. After reading suitable Scriptures, &c. Mr. Clarke prayed, and Mr. Rowland preached from Isaiah xiv. 32. ; after which, the ministers and their respective friends joined with the church in commemorating the Lord's Supper, administered by Mr. Smelle and others. In the evening Mr. Millar; prayed ; Mr. Rowland and Mr. Smelle preached; Mr. White, minister of the place, concluded with prayer. The next day, two sermons were preached at a village called Bunthorp, in this neighbourhood, in order to introduce the Gospel into that place, by Messrs. Rowland and Bean; and, in the evening, a third sermon was preached at Alford, by Mr. Rowland. These services were well attended; and there is reason to believe, were accompanied with the divine presence and blessing. The next meeting is to be held at Great Grimsby, September 15th; Messrs, Woodward, of Pinchbeck; and Bean, of Alford, are to preach. This is very interesting and the book contains much more information that may be of value to other researchers. However it still leaves me wondering to which branch of dissenting ministry he belonged. The word Association suggests Methodism but I am not sure. Can anyone enlighten me please. Keith Bean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4176/8321 - Release Date: 10/03/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4176/8319 - Release Date: 10/03/14

I have known for a long time that I had an ancestor John BEAN in Alford at the beginning of the 19th century. There are Settlement Examinations for him and his son which give interesting information. He is described as a Dissenting Minister but I was unable to discover anything else until I came across The Evangelical Magazine, Volume 10 which is available to view and download on Google Books. Under the heading Associations there is the following. The seventh general meeting of the Lincolnshire and Nottingham Association was held at Huttoft, near Alford, April 28 1802. On the preceding evening a sermon was preached by Mr.' Bean, of Alford, from John xiii. 34. Next morning the ministers met for prayer, and the arrangement of business; after which, the services of the day commenced. After reading suitable Scriptures, &c. Mr. Clarke prayed, and Mr. Rowland preached from Isaiah xiv. 32. ; after which, the ministers and their respective friends joined with the church in commemorating the Lord's Supper, administered by Mr. Smelle and others. In the evening Mr. Millar; prayed ; Mr. Rowland and Mr. Smelle preached; Mr. White, minister of the place, concluded with prayer. The next day, two sermons were preached at a village called Bunthorp, in this neighbourhood, in order to introduce the Gospel into that place, by Messrs. Rowland and Bean; and, in the evening, a third sermon was preached at Alford, by Mr. Rowland. These services were well attended; and there is reason to believe, were accompanied with the divine presence and blessing. The next meeting is to be held at Great Grimsby, September 15th; Messrs, Woodward, of Pinchbeck; and Bean, of Alford, are to preach. This is very interesting and the book contains much more information that may be of value to other researchers. However it still leaves me wondering to which branch of dissenting ministry he belonged. The word Association suggests Methodism but I am not sure. Can anyone enlighten me please. Keith Bean

, or didn't want nosy neighbors to know they weren't really married. Lou, Your family must be from different parts of Lincolnshire to mine. I know all mine married - its just they forgot to register the marriages. They also wished that white out / liquid paper had been invented so they didn't have to leave a big ink blot over the year of marriage in the family bible then rewrite the year to make the first born's age look more acceptable. David

Lou, I will get back to checking census transcriptions for one of the on line providers. Richard Sent from my iPad 3 > On 1 Oct 2014, at 22:53, lr_mills via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, Missing Lincs, > > I had a discussion the other day with a former teacher and we talked about online records. He was concerned because his students "don't remember anything" and they are always looking things up on Google. I allowed as how I am a heavy user of Google and some other search engines, but not because my memory is bad but because the searches are for things I never learned in the first place. > > His concern was about "critical thinking" because his students sometimes take the first answer they find online and don't ensure that the answer is correct. My response was that teens are often competitive and "being first" is often more important than being right. He concurred. > > I think we have some of the same problem with family history records. I have met more than one amateur who built a family tree on the fastest, "easiest" information they could find. And I had a raging argument once with a woman over one of my ancestors, but I could quote sources and she could not. > > But not all records are online and some will never be. Our ancestors often did not trust the government not to mis-use the data, or didn't want nosy neighbors to know they weren't really married. Try tracking a woman's age using the census records! > > So, you want it all online and free, eh? Then volunteer to transcribe something or to proof a transcription. You might as well have something productive to do this Winter. Oh, the group you do it for may want to charge people to look at the transcription. Maybe they plan to make money that way. You were going to publish your family history, right? And get paid for it, right? > > Don't gripe about the cost of online lookups. Look at this hobby as an addiction. You'd pay good money to feed an addiction, wouldn't you? Haven't you? You like living in a house with heating and lighting. You pay for those. So accept it. This computer is the pipeline for your addiction. Insert money to keep it going. > > There are so many ways we can use volunteers. Tell me what your going to do. > > Lou (list admin.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Isn't serendipity wonderful?!! Congrats, Jayne On 01-Oct-14 4:56 PM, Anne Cole via wrote: > Jayne, you can be as sure as Mary Jane Sellers and the court was that William Martin Barnes was the father of her child. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JAYNE via > Sent: 01 October 2014 01:18 > To: ENG-LINCSGEN > Subject: [LIN] Mary Jane Sellers - Maintenance Order > > I've just come across the following whilst searching the newspaper archives: > > Lincolnshire Chronicle - Friday 01 April 1864 "Alford Police, Tuesday.—(Before the Revs. W. P. Vyner, J. B. Travers, and Rd. Parker.)—WILLIAM MARTIN BARNES, of Alford, was charged by Mary Jane Sellers with being the father of her illegitimate child. Ordered to pay 2s per week towards its maintenance." > > Mary Jane Sellers is my 3rd great grandmother and the illegitimate child is my 2nd great grandmother, Ann Eliza Sellers. > > Surprisingly, I have not come across this situation before (after almost 40 years of searching) so I'm looking for help with this. > > By William being ordered to pay maintenance does this confirm that he IS the father? If so, this would make William Martin Barnes my 3rd great grandfather, correct? > > I'd appreciate any help with this. > > Take care > > Jayne > Chesterfield & District FHS Membership Secretary http://www.cadfhs.org.uk/membership.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8300 - Release Date: 09/30/14 > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8300 - Release Date: 09/30/14 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I concur with Nivard, I pay for one off monthly subs to Ancestry, but I can always access my tree -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Genealogy Software. I am sorry for dragging this on BUT the following is simply not true You can have a tree on Ancestry without ever being a paying subscriber and a lapsed subscriber can still access their tree Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > As you say, if you cancel your subscription then you can no longer access > your family tree.." End Quote. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi, Missing Lincs, I had a discussion the other day with a former teacher and we talked about online records. He was concerned because his students "don't remember anything" and they are always looking things up on Google. I allowed as how I am a heavy user of Google and some other search engines, but not because my memory is bad but because the searches are for things I never learned in the first place. His concern was about "critical thinking" because his students sometimes take the first answer they find online and don't ensure that the answer is correct. My response was that teens are often competitive and "being first" is often more important than being right. He concurred. I think we have some of the same problem with family history records. I have met more than one amateur who built a family tree on the fastest, "easiest" information they could find. And I had a raging argument once with a woman over one of my ancestors, but I could quote sources and she could not. But not all records are online and some will never be. Our ancestors often did not trust the government not to mis-use the data, or didn't want nosy neighbors to know they weren't really married. Try tracking a woman's age using the census records! So, you want it all online and free, eh? Then volunteer to transcribe something or to proof a transcription. You might as well have something productive to do this Winter. Oh, the group you do it for may want to charge people to look at the transcription. Maybe they plan to make money that way. You were going to publish your family history, right? And get paid for it, right? Don't gripe about the cost of online lookups. Look at this hobby as an addiction. You'd pay good money to feed an addiction, wouldn't you? Haven't you? You like living in a house with heating and lighting. You pay for those. So accept it. This computer is the pipeline for your addiction. Insert money to keep it going. There are so many ways we can use volunteers. Tell me what your going to do. Lou (list admin.)

Jayne, you can be as sure as Mary Jane Sellers and the court was that William Martin Barnes was the father of her child. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JAYNE via Sent: 01 October 2014 01:18 To: ENG-LINCSGEN Subject: [LIN] Mary Jane Sellers - Maintenance Order I've just come across the following whilst searching the newspaper archives: Lincolnshire Chronicle - Friday 01 April 1864 "Alford Police, Tuesday.—(Before the Revs. W. P. Vyner, J. B. Travers, and Rd. Parker.)—WILLIAM MARTIN BARNES, of Alford, was charged by Mary Jane Sellers with being the father of her illegitimate child. Ordered to pay 2s per week towards its maintenance." Mary Jane Sellers is my 3rd great grandmother and the illegitimate child is my 2nd great grandmother, Ann Eliza Sellers. Surprisingly, I have not come across this situation before (after almost 40 years of searching) so I'm looking for help with this. By William being ordered to pay maintenance does this confirm that he IS the father? If so, this would make William Martin Barnes my 3rd great grandfather, correct? I'd appreciate any help with this. Take care Jayne Chesterfield & District FHS Membership Secretary http://www.cadfhs.org.uk/membership.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8300 - Release Date: 09/30/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8300 - Release Date: 09/30/14

I've just come across the following whilst searching the newspaper archives: Lincolnshire Chronicle - Friday 01 April 1864  "Alford Police, Tuesday.—(Before the Revs. W. P. Vyner, J. B. Travers, and Rd. Parker.)—WILLIAM MARTIN BARNES, of Alford, was charged by Mary Jane Sellers with being the father of her illegitimate child. Ordered to pay 2s per week towards its maintenance."   Mary Jane Sellers is my 3rd great grandmother and the illegitimate child is my 2nd great grandmother, Ann Eliza Sellers.     Surprisingly, I have not come across this situation before (after almost 40 years of searching) so I'm looking for help with this.     By William being ordered to pay maintenance does this confirm that he IS the father?  If so, this would make William Martin Barnes my 3rd great grandfather, correct?   I'd appreciate any help with this.   Take care Jayne Chesterfield & District FHS Membership Secretary http://www.cadfhs.org.uk/membership.htm

Hi Nivard, I hear you, but I will not continue this thread, for several reason's, that I am not prepared to go into, never the less I still think there is sum truth in what has been said. Byeeeeeeeee Nivard, different opinions is all. Bazza ( Barry J D Wilson Lincoln ) On 29 September 2014 17:20, Nivard Ovington via <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Bazza > > Whilst some of the free sites have been taken over by the likes of > Ancestry *they are still free* > > Can you name a site that was once free and is now chargeable? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 29/09/2014 15:59, Barry Wilson via wrote: > > I hear you all about the buying up of all the free sites in family > history, > > which is what I have been warning about for quite some time now. > > As all that you are doing buy using Ancestry to store your family > history, > > it is obvious that the best course of action is to do what has already > been > > suggested which is to use a stand alone hard drive, there are plenty on > > the market with high capacities. > > I have only put my early family history onto Ancestry and Genes reunited, > > and I have not back either one up for for a long time, much sooner trust > > hard copy and CD's at the moment, whilst I am still working on them, then > > it is on to a Stand alone hard drive. > > The days seem to be long gone, when it was good fun just to trace your > own > > family history, what with the big boys buying up every thing they can get > > there hands onto, and then making you pay through the nose, even for your > > own family history research. > > Money seems to be the root of all evil, and now it has struck Family > > History. > > Good luck everyone. Bazza > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have some family tree info on my lap top and some on my desk top. Is there any way to merge lap top and desk top family tree maker information. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lr_mills via Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Family Tree Software/ A mis-conception, I'm afraid. The list is not open to exchanging ALL information. You may discuss Lincolnshire-related family history. Our hosts at Rootsweb-Ancestry set that limit. Discussions of software belong on another list. Complaints about vendor sites generally do not fit that requirement either. You are all free to complain to the vendors directly. Even to Rootsweb-Ancestry if you think their mailing list policies are too stringent. They may take over for me if they think I am too lax or otherwise. Any one of you may, of course, offer to run this list or some other list on Rootsweb-Ancestry. I'd hate to die and be left as list administrator for six years afterward. It's like the junk mail I keep getting for my deceased father-in-law. Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Van Daalen via" <[email protected]> To: "Fay" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:18:02 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] Family Tree Software/ I think the list might be interested, that's the whole purpose, the exchange of information. Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, that's Society policy. I will pass on your message. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: 30 September 2014 11:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Backing up Hi Anne Not wishing to worry you unduly but memory sticks are not a very good way of backing up data They are great for transferring data and as an extra medium to hold a copy but they are prone to failure and often without warning, they can just cease to work SD cards and memory sticks are not good ways to store data for any length of time (I mention SD cards as some people take oodles of pictures but keep them on their cameras or buy another SD card and save the first one) So if you save your data to the laptop but both machines are in one building, I think you should be considering another strategy Such as an external hard drive kept off the premises somewhere, and do a full back up once a month perhaps NB whilst the laptop may never have been connected to the internet, the memory stick has and can transfer a virus or trojan just as easily Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/09/2014 10:36, Anne Cole via wrote: > I hope you'll be pleased to know that all the Lincolnshire FHS stuff > on my computer is backed up monthly onto a stick which resides in the > safe at our Research Centre in Lincoln. I recently had to buy a 16G > stick to contain it all! > > It is also transferred to the laptop that we bought when my husband > was Treasurer of the Society. As this laptop has never been connected > to the internet it is safe there from viruses. I also save my own full > Family Historian file on the same laptop. That is as well as the > backups that the program does automatically, and the copy of the whole > of "my documents" that I back up monthly to my external hard drive! > > Anne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8297 - Release Date: 09/30/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8295 - Release Date: 09/29/14

For those yet to decide on which program to use to record their Lincolnshire and other families, see http://www.familyhistoryresearch.com.au/courses/Software/index.htm for the various options In Google use "rootsweb list genealogy discussion" to locate the various lists available. Keith Wellington, NZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lr_mills via Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2014 10:29 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Family Tree Software/ A mis-conception, I'm afraid. The list is not open to exchanging ALL information. You may discuss Lincolnshire-related family history. Our hosts at Rootsweb-Ancestry set that limit. Discussions of software belong on another list. Complaints about vendor sites generally do not fit that requirement either. You are all free to complain to the vendors directly. Even to Rootsweb-Ancestry if you think their mailing list policies are too stringent. They may take over for me if they think I am too lax or otherwise. Any one of you may, of course, offer to run this list or some other list on Rootsweb-Ancestry. I'd hate to die and be left as list administrator for six years afterward. It's like the junk mail I keep getting for my deceased father-in-law. Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Van Daalen via" <[email protected]> To: "Fay" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:18:02 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] Family Tree Software/ I think the list might be interested, that's the whole purpose, the exchange of information. Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anne Not wishing to worry you unduly but memory sticks are not a very good way of backing up data They are great for transferring data and as an extra medium to hold a copy but they are prone to failure and often without warning, they can just cease to work SD cards and memory sticks are not good ways to store data for any length of time (I mention SD cards as some people take oodles of pictures but keep them on their cameras or buy another SD card and save the first one) So if you save your data to the laptop but both machines are in one building, I think you should be considering another strategy Such as an external hard drive kept off the premises somewhere, and do a full back up once a month perhaps NB whilst the laptop may never have been connected to the internet, the memory stick has and can transfer a virus or trojan just as easily Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/09/2014 10:36, Anne Cole via wrote: > I hope you'll be pleased to know that all the Lincolnshire FHS stuff on my > computer is backed up monthly onto a stick which resides in the safe at our > Research Centre in Lincoln. I recently had to buy a 16G stick to contain it > all! > > It is also transferred to the laptop that we bought when my husband was > Treasurer of the Society. As this laptop has never been connected to the > internet it is safe there from viruses. I also save my own full Family > Historian file on the same laptop. That is as well as the backups that the > program does automatically, and the copy of the whole of "my documents" that > I back up monthly to my external hard drive! > > Anne

I hope you'll be pleased to know that all the Lincolnshire FHS stuff on my computer is backed up monthly onto a stick which resides in the safe at our Research Centre in Lincoln. I recently had to buy a 16G stick to contain it all! It is also transferred to the laptop that we bought when my husband was Treasurer of the Society. As this laptop has never been connected to the internet it is safe there from viruses. I also save my own full Family Historian file on the same laptop. That is as well as the backups that the program does automatically, and the copy of the whole of "my documents" that I back up monthly to my external hard drive! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Sokalofsky via Sent: 29 September 2014 22:55 To: 'lr_mills'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Family Tree Software/ Hi Lou Perhaps I used the wrong terminology. I presume you are saying that the FTM automatically backs up your work in a file on your computer every time you shut your program down. Do you think this is efficient enough "a save" or should we go one step further? I do the "File", "Export" thing and save a copy of my FTM work. Gedcom? Am I alone in doing this? L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lr_mills via Sent: September-29-14 2:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Family Tree Software/ Amen Linda! The Computer Gods always bless those who do backups. I missed the recent earthquake in my area, but not the thunder and lightning that passed through. I trust that you all believe in surge protectors. And, Linda, I'm surprised if people are using FTM software that doesn't do its own backups, but it takes all kinds. I hope we don't have people out there using computers with floppy disks, but it never surprises me how old some business computers are. It's like arming our soldiers with muzzle-loaded muskets because we got such a good price on them. Might as well give 'em bows and arrows. Lou (list admin.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Sokalofsky via" <[email protected]> To: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:41:10 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Family Tree Software/ Thank you Nivard! You've made my point, exactly. However, we do need to back up our data in our FTM program on our hard drive regularly. -snip- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]tsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8295 - Release Date: 09/29/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8295 - Release Date: 09/29/14

Apologies from me too. (a) For dragging this on (b) My agreement with the statement 'if you cancel your subscription then you can no longer access your family tree (on Ancestry)'. It was based on what other people who have trees on Ancestry but who have subsequently cancelled their subscription have said, not through personal experience, and, in hindsight, I should have made that clear as it is possible I misinterpreted what they were saying. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/ On 30/09/2014 08:08, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > I am sorry for dragging this on BUT the following is simply not true > > You can have a tree on Ancestry without ever being a paying subscriber > and a lapsed subscriber can still access their tree > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> As you say, if you cancel your subscription then you can no longer access >> your family tree.." End Quote. >> > > ------------------------------- >

Thank you Nivard As one of those who can't afford anything much these days I am so grateful to the people who answer cries for help. I have Ancestry membership because my daughter bought it for Christmas years ago and has just renewed it ever since. It is due to cease soon and I have told her not to renew. It should not be due to cease but I was naive enough to try the World sub at a reduced price - not dealing that that would cut time off my UK sub. I think I know enough places to look now or at least try. And I will instead buy more FH society publications which I know will be relevant to my areas of interest, and I will still ask kind people out there to help when I'm in need. Jan --- Original Message --- From: "Nivard Ovington via" <[email protected]> Sent: September 30, 2014 6:47 AM To: "PAMELA BAILLIE" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] On-line Family trees Hi Pamela Whilst I agree with you in principal, not everyone is as fortunate as others and cannot afford all the resources they may want Whilst people may ask, its a personal choice whether anyone responds to that request Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/09/2014 20:09, PAMELA BAILLIE wrote: > What really annoys me is when some people ask for information that is > available on various subscription sites or through > indexes/transcription that have been produced and published with copy > write by family history societies and expect and get it > for nothing, thereby taking revenue which can be used to purchase more > resources for those that do pay ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have always believed that this hobby was about sharing and whilst I have asked for the odd lookup up in indexed data I do not hold, I have spent thousands on publications and subscriptions in the past 22 years. Along with tens of thousands of others I have contributed time and resources to projects such as FreeCEN, Family Search, etc.. Having people in all but three English counties, half the Welsh counties, most of Scotland, 75% of the US states, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and other countries means funds are spread very thinly. All data collected and details from documents purchased I make freely available to others. I don't make available the entire contents of copyrighted material I hold, as those needing more than the odd entry will purchase it for themselves. Sometimes just confirmation that their subject IS NOT listed in a particular index is sufficient. Keith Wellington, NZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of PAMELA BAILLIE via Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2014 08:09 To: Nivard Ovington; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] On-line Family trees What really annoys me is when some people ask for information that is available on various subscription sites or through indexes/transcription that have been produced and published with copy write by family history societies and expect and get it for nothing, thereby taking revenue which can be used to purchase more resources for those that do pay _

There is of course one way to get free LFHS publications - people who take part in our projects get a free copy of the resulting publication :-) Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

I am sorry for dragging this on BUT the following is simply not true You can have a tree on Ancestry without ever being a paying subscriber and a lapsed subscriber can still access their tree Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > As you say, if you cancel your subscription then you can no longer access > your family tree.." End Quote. >