No Bart as you buried the 1806 one in May 1806 and then baptised another one to the same parents in 1807 I think our contact Mary who Stephen and myself are in contact with I think it is was on her line. That family had a lot of infant mortality. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Bart Simon via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] Mason Inquests [William chr 26-03-1806, do you happen to know if he was the same William who was chr 26-03-1807]: bp:26-03-1806 *William F:Thomas MASON M: Elizabeth bur:31 May 1806 *William MASON bp:18-11-1807 William F:Thomas MASON M:Elizabeth *Seem to be the same person ?. Bart .... -----Original Message----- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bart! Yes, you have the correct family. Elizabeth's birthdate as given in the Pickering Meeting [Ontario, Canada] Quaker records is the 11th of December, 1835, which is two days before her baptism. The 1871 census is not an accurate estimate of her date of birth. She is 27 in 1861 ["age next birthday"] and 16 in the 1851/2 census ["age next birthday"] - so they are a little closer to the correct year. Regards, Stephen On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bart Simon via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello: Stephen, if I am correct ?, in the ON Whitby Census 1871C: > > 1871C: > Selah Orvid 45y (1871-45=1826). He is bp:04-02-1826. > Elizabeth (Proctor) 34y (1871-34=1837) given to be bp:13-12-1835 > (Messingham). > > Since Elizabeth Proctor 34y in 1871 (=bp:1837), and since she was > 'apparently' bp:13-12-1835, which although at the end of the year, it means > she would have turned a full year before any census. Are you sure you have > the correct ship list ?. We are probably in the right place for the person > on that ship list, but things are not adding up yet, but not in the right > place for the whole family. His dates are fine, your Elizabeth Proctor is 2 > years out, 1 year only would have been sought further as to why. If the > census is correct, we are in the wrong place. Bart [!!!] .... > -----Original Message----- > > >

Hello: This William Mason* is not classed as an 'Infant' in the burial record, it is an adult!. Edie and Stephen, have a chunk coming for you in my next post!. Bart ... bp:26-03-1806 William F:Thomas MASON M: Elizabeth bur:31-05-1806 William MASON* bp:18-11-1807 William F:Thomas MASON M:Elizabeth -----Original Message----- No Bart as you buried the 1806 one in May 1806 and then baptised another one to the same parents in 1807 I think our contact Mary who Stephen and myself are in contact with I think it is was on her line. That family had a lot of infant mortality. Edie. ------------------------------------------

Nivard, Thank you for the added census,  I believe I have the right Ann Christian and that the birth date on the death certificate is wrong.  Her daughter is the one that gave the birth date so that's confusing and brought up the red flag. Norm On Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:12 AM, Nivard Ovington via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi Norm In 1861 in Bourn are a CHRISTIAN family Robert 60      Stamford Lincs Ann wife 41    Thurlby Lincs Betsy dau 14      Bourn Lincs John Hayes son 10  Bourn Lincs Ann dau 8          Bourn Lincs Maria dau 5        Bourn Lincs In 1871 Ann CHRISTIAN is a servant in Chelsea There was also an Emma Ann Name:     Emma Ann Christian Gender:     Female Baptism Date:     17 Apr 1853 Baptism Place:     Morton (near Bourne), Lincoln, England Father:     Charles Christian Mother:     Elizabeth FHL Film Number:     1450471 Reference ID:     v 1-11 p 40 And her birth reg Name:     Ann Emma Christian Registration Year:     1852 Registration Quarter:     Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district:     Bourne Parishes for this Registration District:     View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County:     Lincolnshire Volume:     7a Page:     27 A search for a Jacob CHRISTIAN of any age born Lincolnshire finds just one, in 1841 to 1881, and that being the father of an Ann aged 7 in 1851 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/01/2016 14:58, Norm Gidcumb via wrote: > Hello listers,Looking to confirm which Anne Christian I have here, > coulduse some help.  I thought I had everyonein the proper places > until I found her death certificate.I have listed Anne Christian > listed as baptized 29 Apr 1844in Long Benning, parents Jacob > Christian and Sarah Edwards.  This is Sarah’s 2nd marriage, 1stto > unknown Armstrong, who died.Anne married 1st Edward Sandall in Morton > Parish,Bourne 25 May, 1865l and had a daughter Keziah “Cassie” > Sandall(1866-1933).  I have nothing else onEdward.Jul 2, 1872, Anne > married Matthew Cumberworth in Edenham,Bourn, they had 5 children > before moving to Michigan, USA where they had 3 morechildren.1841 > census (HO 107/615) has Jacob and Sarah in LongBenning, no > children1851 (HO 107/2095) Jacob and Sarah are in Bourn w/3daughters, > Anne being one of them.1861 in Bourn, no children1871 Jacob is in > Edenham alone1871 Sarah shown in Bourne with Gdaughter Kezia > Sandall1881 Jacob and Sarah back together.My notes show that Anne was > a widow when she married Matthewand that they came to MI 1879 per > 1920 census, but yet son John was born inHolbeach Sep 1880.Everything > was fine and what data and everything, everythingfit with this > family.  Anne’s deathcertificate has here birth Apr 6, 1853, > informant was daughter Sarah.  I have learned long ago that the only > thingyou can be sure of from a death certificate is the death date. > Death certificate lists Jacob as father.  Looking in BMD’s there is > an Anne Christianborn Jun qt in Bourn 1853.  That's where I started > to have doubts.  Found nothingin Free Reg and tried Lincstothepast > last night but it was down.Would like some opining. I believe what I > have is correct and the date on the death certificateis wrong.Thanks > for reading,Norm --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Not the same child, the first William died. Edie sent the same query, and last night I copied and pasted a sequence of baptism and burial dates to her. For some reason I appear not to have saved a copy, so I have emailed her to ask for it to be sent on to you. Let me know if this doesn't arrive safely. Refards, Rex On 28/01/2016 21:59, Bart Simon via wrote: > [William chr 26-03-1806, do you happen to know if he was the same William > who was chr 26-03-1807]: > > bp:26-03-1806 *William F:Thomas MASON M: Elizabeth > bur:31 May 1806 *William MASON > bp:18-11-1807 William F:Thomas MASON M:Elizabeth > > *Seem to be the same person ?. Bart .... > -----Original Message----- > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

[William chr 26-03-1806, do you happen to know if he was the same William who was chr 26-03-1807]: bp:26-03-1806 *William F:Thomas MASON M: Elizabeth bur:31 May 1806 *William MASON bp:18-11-1807 William F:Thomas MASON M:Elizabeth *Seem to be the same person ?. Bart .... -----Original Message-----

Many many thanks to all the people who sent me information regarding my search for Mary Ann COLLISHAW. I am at present sifting through it all and hopefully will have some answers soon. Best Wishes Margaret

Hi Norm In 1861 in Bourn are a CHRISTIAN family Robert 60 Stamford Lincs Ann wife 41 Thurlby Lincs Betsy dau 14 Bourn Lincs John Hayes son 10 Bourn Lincs Ann dau 8 Bourn Lincs Maria dau 5 Bourn Lincs In 1871 Ann CHRISTIAN is a servant in Chelsea There was also an Emma Ann Name: Emma Ann Christian Gender: Female Baptism Date: 17 Apr 1853 Baptism Place: Morton (near Bourne), Lincoln, England Father: Charles Christian Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 1450471 Reference ID: v 1-11 p 40 And her birth reg Name: Ann Emma Christian Registration Year: 1852 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Bourne Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 27 A search for a Jacob CHRISTIAN of any age born Lincolnshire finds just one, in 1841 to 1881, and that being the father of an Ann aged 7 in 1851 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/01/2016 14:58, Norm Gidcumb via wrote: > Hello listers,Looking to confirm which Anne Christian I have here, > coulduse some help. I thought I had everyonein the proper places > until I found her death certificate.I have listed Anne Christian > listed as baptized 29 Apr 1844in Long Benning, parents Jacob > Christian and Sarah Edwards. This is Sarah’s 2nd marriage, 1stto > unknown Armstrong, who died.Anne married 1st Edward Sandall in Morton > Parish,Bourne 25 May, 1865l and had a daughter Keziah “Cassie” > Sandall(1866-1933). I have nothing else onEdward.Jul 2, 1872, Anne > married Matthew Cumberworth in Edenham,Bourn, they had 5 children > before moving to Michigan, USA where they had 3 morechildren.1841 > census (HO 107/615) has Jacob and Sarah in LongBenning, no > children1851 (HO 107/2095) Jacob and Sarah are in Bourn w/3daughters, > Anne being one of them.1861 in Bourn, no children1871 Jacob is in > Edenham alone1871 Sarah shown in Bourne with Gdaughter Kezia > Sandall1881 Jacob and Sarah back together.My notes show that Anne was > a widow when she married Matthewand that they came to MI 1879 per > 1920 census, but yet son John was born inHolbeach Sep 1880.Everything > was fine and what data and everything, everythingfit with this > family. Anne’s deathcertificate has here birth Apr 6, 1853, > informant was daughter Sarah. I have learned long ago that the only > thingyou can be sure of from a death certificate is the death date. > Death certificate lists Jacob as father. Looking in BMD’s there is > an Anne Christianborn Jun qt in Bourn 1853. That's where I started > to have doubts. Found nothingin Free Reg and tried Lincstothepast > last night but it was down.Would like some opining. I believe what I > have is correct and the date on the death certificateis wrong.Thanks > for reading,Norm --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

HI Rod, I find this type of explanation very useful. You can see how when there are agricultural slumps and no work to be had in the farming districts how young men had to leave home to look for work. We used to live in a little farming town over here in our little state, not far away about 13 km there was a paper mill here where at least one member of the families here had employment. It closed down a few years ago and sent heaps of folk out of work. Some of the young fellows went to the mainland, but within no time at all had come back to their little town as they were homesick or they couldnt stand the heat or the big smoke or big cities. I guess they still have to go away, but within the State, so not quite so far away. Thanks Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Rod Strong via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] - Newbold in Chesterfield Hi, I have been following this debate but not too closely. I don't know whether my comments might help but IMHO if asked to choose between some-one 'migrating' from Messingham in Lincolnshire or Derby to Newbold in Chesterfield, I would go for Derby. My own people arrived in Sheffield in the early 1900s. Over 3 generations in the 19th century they migrated from the Fens in South Lincolnshire up the route of the present A15 (itself a typically straight Roman road) to a village now incorporated into Scunthorpe. My grandfather, an 'ag lab' then turned east and travelled almost certainly along the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincoln railway route to Sheffield were he settled; at first employed as a labourer constructing the tram way there. Anecdotally, a lecturer at the University of Lincoln and a historian of the Lincolnshire area told me that this was a common migration pattern. The 'push-pull' model suggests that the agricultural recessions of the early 19th century pushed unemployed young men out to look for work elsewhere, whilst the demands for labour pulled them towards industrial centres such as Sheffield. The census records of people living in the eastern part of Sheffield where the steel industry was concentrated support this model. There is a high preponderance of people living in the same streets of housing, born in Lincolnshire in the same villages (or other close by). This pattern of behaviour is said to be seen in the economic migrant communities of the 60-80s. Young men left their communities, settled, sometimes marring local girls whilst others 'sent for' the girl they left behind when they were economically self sufficient and married them. If you look at the early lines of communication, the main ones generally run North-South in Britain as any one who looks in vain to find an East - West Motorway to take him say from Norwich to say Birmingham will tell you. The Derby to Chesterfield road follows the lie of the land along river valleys generally. I don't know whether your man had a specialist skill to sell i.e. a craftsman, but if he were a labourer who had arrived in Sheffield, then a booming industrial city, by the route I have described I think it unlikely he would then have left Sheffield, to travel south to Chesterfield a much smaller and less significant town. Finally, I beg any 'Chesterfeldians' not to take my remarks too badly. If they do then - Pax! My daughter lives very near Newbold and loves it there. Rod S. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is good Bart as I am pretty certain The Thomas and Elizabeth marriage in Burton Upon Trent is the right one. Remember the marriage of a Thomas Mason aged 19 upwards and his bride Elizabeth Harrison 19 upwards, well I have come up trumps. I have been studying various sites I will check them against the oiriginals. This is what I have found Starting with Thomas Mason 1780/1 to Thomas Mason and Winefred Jopson then Thomas Mason the one I found in Burton Upon Trent. Thomas Mason Married Elizabeth Harrison 26 March 1800 match has come up in Messingham from the son of Thomas Mason and Elizabeth. Pretty sure this is the couple now and their first born Thomas mason was the one chr in Burton Upon Trent in 1801. There were no more chr in that parish Church and then we have back in Messingham To the known Thomas and Elizabeth (Butcher) Francis Mason (Publican/Innkeeper) chr 22 December 1802 Messingham married Sarah Thackery 22 May !828 Elizabeth Mason 28 July 1829 Messingham (Publican) Sophia Rachel Mason chr 15 Jan 1831 Thomas Mason chr 5 Oct 1832 Frances Mason 15 June 1834 Sarah Mason 10 April 1837 Inn Keeper Mary Ann Mason 25 December 1839 Henry HARRISON Mason 20 August 1842 Henry HARRISON 7 July 1844 to be a coincidence to ignore I think Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Bart Simon via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] Newbold in Chesterfield, Derbyshire. Distance between Messingham and Derbyshire then and nowand distance between Kingston Upon Hull There is Newbold Manor just south of Burton Upon Trent. Bart. -----Original Message----- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers,Looking to confirm which Anne Christian I have here, coulduse some help.  I thought I had everyonein the proper places until I found her death certificate.I have listed Anne Christian listed as baptized 29 Apr 1844in Long Benning, parents Jacob Christian and Sarah Edwards.  This is Sarah’s 2nd marriage, 1stto unknown Armstrong, who died.Anne married 1st Edward Sandall in Morton Parish,Bourne 25 May, 1865l and had a daughter Keziah “Cassie” Sandall(1866-1933).  I have nothing else onEdward.Jul 2, 1872, Anne married Matthew Cumberworth in Edenham,Bourn, they had 5 children before moving to Michigan, USA where they had 3 morechildren.1841 census (HO 107/615) has Jacob and Sarah in LongBenning, no children1851 (HO 107/2095) Jacob and Sarah are in Bourn w/3daughters, Anne being one of them.1861 in Bourn, no children1871 Jacob is in Edenham alone1871 Sarah shown in Bourne with Gdaughter Kezia Sandall1881 Jacob and Sarah back together.My notes show that Anne was a widow when she married Matthewand that they came to MI 1879 per 1920 census, but yet son John was born inHolbeach Sep 1880.Everything was fine and what data and everything, everythingfit with this family.  Anne’s deathcertificate has here birth Apr 6, 1853, informant was daughter Sarah.  I have learned long ago that the only thingyou can be sure of from a death certificate is the death date. Death certificate lists Jacob as father.  Looking in BMD’s there is an Anne Christianborn Jun qt in Bourn 1853.  That's where I started to have doubts.  Found nothingin Free Reg and tried Lincstothepast last night but it was down.Would like some opining. I believe what I have is correct and the date on the death certificateis wrong.Thanks for reading,Norm

There is Newbold Manor just south of Burton Upon Trent. Bart. -----Original Message-----

Thanks for the information Peter - let's hope it's all back up soon Terry -----Original Message----- From: Peter Reichelt [mailto:reicheltpeter05@gmail.com] Sent: 27 January 2016 17:35 To: Nivard Ovington; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs to the Past Hi all, Lincolnshire County Council has, one day ago, been hit with a serious attack on their I T system caused by an infected e mail . They reacted very quick and shut the system down resulting in loss of e mail use in and out and within LCC. Lincolnshire Archives is part of LCC and Lincs to the Past is under Archives control. LCC sent many people home due to this problem and yesterday were using only telephones within organisation. According to local radio they are testing the fix. The possible infection could have wiped out all their files according to local news. Hope that helps. Peter On 27 January 2016 at 16:33, Nivard Ovington via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Terry > > I just did a quick test and am only getting a blank square where there > is usually an image icon > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 27/01/2016 16:28, Terry Wells via wrote: > > Is anybody else having problems viewing parish register images on > > Lincs > to > > the Past today? > > > > > > > > Terry > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Regards, Peter. Vice Chairman of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

Hi, I have been following this debate but not too closely. I don't know whether my comments might help but IMHO if asked to choose between some-one 'migrating' from Messingham in Lincolnshire or Derby to Newbold in Chesterfield, I would go for Derby. My own people arrived in Sheffield in the early 1900s. Over 3 generations in the 19th century they migrated from the Fens in South Lincolnshire up the route of the present A15 (itself a typically straight Roman road) to a village now incorporated into Scunthorpe. My grandfather, an 'ag lab' then turned east and travelled almost certainly along the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincoln railway route to Sheffield were he settled; at first employed as a labourer constructing the tram way there. Anecdotally, a lecturer at the University of Lincoln and a historian of the Lincolnshire area told me that this was a common migration pattern. The 'push-pull' model suggests that the agricultural recessions of the early 19th century pushed unemployed young men out to look for work elsewhere, whilst the demands for labour pulled them towards industrial centres such as Sheffield. The census records of people living in the eastern part of Sheffield where the steel industry was concentrated support this model. There is a high preponderance of people living in the same streets of housing, born in Lincolnshire in the same villages (or other close by). This pattern of behaviour is said to be seen in the economic migrant communities of the 60-80s. Young men left their communities, settled, sometimes marring local girls whilst others 'sent for' the girl they left behind when they were economically self sufficient and married them. If you look at the early lines of communication, the main ones generally run North-South in Britain as any one who looks in vain to find an East - West Motorway to take him say from Norwich to say Birmingham will tell you. The Derby to Chesterfield road follows the lie of the land along river valleys generally. I don't know whether your man had a specialist skill to sell i.e. a craftsman, but if he were a labourer who had arrived in Sheffield, then a booming industrial city, by the route I have described I think it unlikely he would then have left Sheffield, to travel south to Chesterfield a much smaller and less significant town. Finally, I beg any 'Chesterfeldians' not to take my remarks too badly. If they do then - Pax! My daughter lives very near Newbold and loves it there. Rod S.

Hi Rex hope your well, been reading your email interesting as my fathers side came from your area may i have a copy of the files kindest regards june terrington was Wilson On 27 January 2016 at 14:58, Rex via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Sitting here in Messingham I have enjoyed following all the suggested > county and town names mentioned as possible places of origin of members > of the Mason family (and other families). > On the face of it, some of the out of County places have sounded > unlikely, but experience tells me that they have all been possibles. > Messingham sits on a limestone ridge which runs from the middle of > Lincoln where the Cathedral stands, north to dip down at Winteringam and > the banks of the River Humber. Messingham residents in the older part of > the village look down into the valley of the River Trent - a couple of > miles away, but Messingham had a thriving landing there in the 1700s and > 1800s. Rivers and canals were the main highways then for moving goods > around - only losing out when the railways got going in the mid 1850s. > So, go from Messingham landing south, and you reach Gainsborough, and > the River Trent continues to take you to Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, > Burton on Trent, Leicestershire, etc.. > Go from Keadby by canal to Doncaster, Sheffield or Barnsley. Go north > from the landing out into the River Humber to go up major river systems > into Yorkshire, or out of the Humber into the North Sea round to Boston > and Norfolk. Then get back to Lincoln up the River Witham and the > Torksey Canal back to the Trent and home to Messingham. > My Main Messingham maternal family made trips around these waterways > constantly. I have found marriages in Norfolk, Sheffield, Derbyshire, > Bradford, Beverley, Hull, North ferriby, Newcastle etc.. > I started this game many years ago, thinking my Messingham people would > have been in the village for ever. I could not have been more wrong. > Years ago I emailed the List about waterway routes around North > Lincolnshire. Those routes will still be there in List archives. I have > two small sketch maps on file - one covers Lincolnshire waterways and > shipping routes, the other covers ways from Lincolnshire (on waterways) > into other county areas. These are relatively small files - one over 200 > kb, one over 300 kb. If anyone wants a copy of one or the other or both, > email me direct, and I can post them as email attachments. > Good Hunting, Rex > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Peter, On our last working holiday in the UK back in 1998 we lived up in Gateshead for four months and I used to go to the Newcastle Library every day bar the weekend when we would go touring staying at Youth Hostels. As I remember the reference section of the library had a set of the Times newspaper film and the whole set of the bmd fiche up til 1992 and several other good records. I had a lovely time there. Going back over thirty plus years, like you I learned the hard way, but most of us who were researching my Great grannys Hedges family did the same thing. Everything fitted lovely, we were all following a family in Essex, except we couldnt find gt grannys birth, her father was there and everything further back (not), until the census came in and we found that she had been born in Ware, Hertfordshire, the rest of her siblings and her mother also.. Then things started to go hayewire again by the time of the 1871 census. Where was my 2nd gt gf. My second cousin thought to put just the christian names in for the whole family and low and behold there they all were but now called Bird. The second record for that event was 2nd gt gf Joseph Hedges death certificate. He had died Joseph Hedges Bird. The informant was my great Grandfather Joseph Crane Lane, his son in law. Gt grannys husband. So there are a lot of twists and turns to sort out. I have never been able to find hi! s birth, but maybe I should be looking at Bird. The trouble wasin eachcensushestaed a different birthplace. Anyway another story another County. I think the Atkinson may have been another enquiry Peter, but it may have been Barts, I havent mention the name Atkinson. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Peter Atkinson <patkinson@supertrout.wanadoo.co.uk> To: eamca@bigpond.com; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] Newbold in Chesterfield, Derbyshire. Distance between Messingham and Derbyshire then and nowand distance between Kingston Upon Hull I have been following this thread with interest although I have no connection (yet? was a William Atkinson mentioned earlier or was that another enquiry?). I agree that you must have a few connections before accepting just the one as possible gospel. That happened to me in my early days of research and I shot of in a number of directions. Although not in the Concise Oxford Dictionary ''Cheers'' is commonly used certainly in NE England and is an alternative for ''cheerio'', which is in the dictionary. Cheerio:- Brit. colloq. expressing good wishes on parting and archaic before drinking (in particular alcohol). Cheers/ Cheerio Peter Newcastle upon Tyne ======================================== Message Received: Jan 27 2016, 04:28 AM From: "eamca via" To: thewanderer@iburst.co.za, eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [LIN] Newbold in Chesterfield, Derbyshire. Distance between Messingham and Derbyshire then and nowand distance between Kingston Upon Hull Bart, I am not arguing with you about Newbald, but I still dont think it is etched in stone as yet. There are two vowels, before the l d or whatever that is, looks like the d in child so I am happy with that. I am reasonably happy with New, not happy completely with the b as it looks very undernourished to be b, but might be. What I have been trying to do, while you have been looking for the Newbalds about the place, is looking for the first child born to Thomas and Elizabeth who ended up in Messingham. Then for the marriage of that couple, who do not appear to have been married in Messingham but both have died there and the ages at death match with other records. So far like you I have been thrashing things out, I have found this Burton Upon Trent couple to be my best bet, it doesnt have to be your best bet, neither of us may ever be right. I do know that the groom had the same occupation as Thomas in the 1851 census of Messingham and Thomas in 1851 had been a widower for! at least two census and probably more, that would work in with losing his young 38/39 year old wife in Messingham, in childbirth in 1821

Hi all, Lincolnshire County Council has, one day ago, been hit with a serious attack on their I T system caused by an infected e mail . They reacted very quick and shut the system down resulting in loss of e mail use in and out and within LCC. Lincolnshire Archives is part of LCC and Lincs to the Past is under Archives control. LCC sent many people home due to this problem and yesterday were using only telephones within organisation. According to local radio they are testing the fix. The possible infection could have wiped out all their files according to local news. Hope that helps. Peter On 27 January 2016 at 16:33, Nivard Ovington via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Terry > > I just did a quick test and am only getting a blank square where there > is usually an image icon > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 27/01/2016 16:28, Terry Wells via wrote: > > Is anybody else having problems viewing parish register images on Lincs > to > > the Past today? > > > > > > > > Terry > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Regards, Peter. Vice Chairman of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

Lincs 1837+ has John Collishaw married Ann Mabbot 14 May 1845 at Kirkby Green & it looks like all their children born there Bernie -----Original Message----- From: Anne Cole via Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 4:10 PM To: 'Denny Lowe' ; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] MARY ANN COLLISHAW- Lincolnshire Marriages for Hannah Memorial are in the post 1837 marriage index from 1899, there were no earlier marriage registers at Lincolnshire Archives so it is necessary to order the marriage certificate to get the details. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denny Lowe via Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:52 AM To: Margaret; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] MARY ANN COLLISHAW- Lincolnshire On 26 Jan 2016, at 2:49 PM, Margaret via wrote: > [...] I have a Mary Ann Collishaw who married Thomas Edenbrow on > 11^th Feb > 1883 at the Hannah Memorial Church at Lincoln. I have her birth date > as 15^th June 1863 and on the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses she says > that she was born in Kirkby Green, Lincolnshire. However the only > possible Mary Ann Collishaw I can find on previous censuses in > Lincolnshire is the daughter of John and Ann and it is stated that she > was born in Waddington, Lincolnshire. In 1871 Mary Ann, age 7, is in Kirkby Green with her parents John and Ann, and older siblings. See RG10 / 3348 folio 33. Hannah Memorial is, according to Google, a Methodist church. I see that Lincolnshire Archives do list records for this church, but they do not seem to be on-line Sorry, no linkage to his family in my research ... just did a bit of digging out of curiosity. > [...] Margaret Hartshorn Denny Lowe, Perth Ontario. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11495 - Release Date: 01/27/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11495 - Release Date: 01/27/16 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Terry I just did a quick test and am only getting a blank square where there is usually an image icon Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 27/01/2016 16:28, Terry Wells via wrote: > Is anybody else having problems viewing parish register images on Lincs to > the Past today? > > > > Terry --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Is anybody else having problems viewing parish register images on Lincs to the Past today? Terry