If you are just wanting a part of a page you can cut out and save a clipping by using your "Snipping Tool". Happy St. Patrick's Day Linda Sokalofsky Researching in Lincs: PLOWRIGHT, Pinchbeck, Boston areas & HOOTON Deeping Fen and of course, all related family names. -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MomNat via Sent: March 17, 2016 10:36 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] surnames and technical help needed Does anyone know if there is a way of printing pages from books on googlebooks? I have been unable to find a way. I have found great reference there, including a biography. I even thought of purchasing the book, but the volume I want is unavailable. It is not a Lincs ancestor, but I trust in the knowledge of this list. I know I could type it into a laptop, but really? Any advice is welcome. Kathryne Natale My Lincolnshire bunch: WILKINSON -Hawerby Cum Beesby, Kirmond le Mire LAMMING - Binsbrook? CRAFT (or CROFT) - North Cockerington SQUIRE MARSHALL -Barrow on Humber RIDGEWAY - Maltby, nr Rotherham , YKS (married MARSHALL)

Lou Good news, I had just had a new email program installed on my laptop and thought I might have to re subscribe when nothing from Rootsweb showed up until today. Yay, Linda B.C. Canada - ----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lr_mills via Sent: March 15, 2016 6:06 PM To: Judy <judejc@bigpond.com>; eng-lincsgen <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LIN] Lincs List, decline of inquiries > From: "Judy" <judejc@bigpond.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 6:26:57 PM > Subject: RE: [LIN] Lincs List, decline of inquiries > Lou > Have not heard anything from this list or any of the other lists for a while . Have they closed down the mailing lists? > Judy Ahhh, Rootsweb suffered that horror of horrors that sometimes strikes a website. An electo-mechanical device known as a disk drive failed in a wondrous and spectacular way, amazing all the Ancestry technicians with its demise. An inquest was held at a local Inn and it was determined that a replacement device could be provided by the Internet Fairies, but it would take a few days by canal for the delivery and set up. While the Ancestry community waited, it was determined that no foul play was involved and no fine would be levied, but that e-mail would be held up for about six days. Since the disk drive left no will or testament, it was decided to continue service on the new drive as soon as installation was completed. No e-mails were harmed in this event, but many were delayed. Some e-mails decided to return themselves to the senders and those requests were honored. In celebration of the resurrection of Ancestry's e-mail services it has been suggested that each of you post a query regarding a brick wall that you have faced. And if you see any of the Ancestry technicians still remaining at the Inn, advise them to return to their duties as soon as possible. Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> From: "Judy" <judejc@bigpond.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 6:26:57 PM > Subject: RE: [LIN] Lincs List, decline of inquiries > Lou > Have not heard anything from this list or any of the other lists for a while . Have they closed down the mailing lists? > Judy Ahhh, Rootsweb suffered that horror of horrors that sometimes strikes a website. An electo-mechanical device known as a disk drive failed in a wondrous and spectacular way, amazing all the Ancestry technicians with its demise. An inquest was held at a local Inn and it was determined that a replacement device could be provided by the Internet Fairies, but it would take a few days by canal for the delivery and set up. While the Ancestry community waited, it was determined that no foul play was involved and no fine would be levied, but that e-mail would be held up for about six days. Since the disk drive left no will or testament, it was decided to continue service on the new drive as soon as installation was completed. No e-mails were harmed in this event, but many were delayed. Some e-mails decided to return themselves to the senders and those requests were honored. In celebration of the resurrection of Ancestry's e-mail services it has been suggested that each of you post a query regarding a brick wall that you have faced. And if you see any of the Ancestry technicians still remaining at the Inn, advise them to return to their duties as soon as possible. Lou (list admin.)

Thanks for all the responses of course. Percy Smith was living at 25 Beverley Road, Penge, Kent until at least the end of June 1939 which is when his first wife (my husband’s mother) died. Thereafter he moved and is next found by us living at 61 Arngask Road, Catford, London when he marries his 2nd wife in August 1940. The Percy living near Ashford in 1939 is unlikely to be ours unless Laura was simply a very short term girlfriend, He marries an Eileen Margaret ALLEN in 1940. Between losing his first wife and gaining his second, he takes only his son with him into the next marriage. Mabel Colleen and his step daughter Constance MORAN disappear from his family. We discovered what happened to Constance (she dies quite young) but have been unable to trace Mabel. May be she did go to South Africa as has been suggested by you wonderful hunters. We are naturally chasing this down. We are also chasing up Louisa Winter’s daughter (Lillian Slingluff) in the USA right now. Have found a few entries for her but nothing which gives parents. Thanks again to one and all who are helping so much. Just finding the death item on Louisa has raised our hopes, even if it results in cancelling her out..... --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thank you for the item from the Grantham Journal David referring to Louisa Winters’ death and “husband”. That side of our family gets curiouser and curiouser. As remarked, was she married to the man who pre-deceased her or was that another rehash of history!! A widow in 1939 and married in 1944...... what fun this family search game is. Shame her 2 daughters were abroad at the time but to be in Mexico and USA shortly after the war was pretty rare I would think. Did they marry GI’s perhaps? All we really want to know is when and where Percy Smith was born but as always, truth is often stranger than fiction. The rest of our story is that we have never found Percy’s first born daughter Mabel Colleen Smith (b 1932) and we have tried all paths. Why do some threads prove to be so hard to find....... --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

So can you find him in Penge in the 1939 Register? What birth date does that give? (It's free now if you subscribe to FMP) Barbara On 16 February 2016 at 17:18, W and P Smith <reevesroots@googlemail.com> wrote: > Our Percy was definitely living in Penge, Kent at that time and in June is > coping with his wife's Annie's early death at child birth. How we wish > that your Percy and Laura could have been ours......!!! > > Many thanks > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >

Our Percy was definitely living in Penge, Kent at that time and in June is coping with his wife's Annie's early death at child birth. How we wish that your Percy and Laura could have been ours......!!! Many thanks --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thanks Pamela for Louisa Winter in Chapel Hill. That is definitely “our” Louisa. We actually visited the area a few years back and asked at the local school where their pupil records might be kept but they were unable to help us at the time. We also tried at Grantham library but could not progress it. His army papers say he was born 28th Feb. 1903. Nottingham, Notts Whether she was a widow who can tell. If she was originally a Smith I haven’t been able to find a marriage to a Winter at the right time. Can you tell whether Louisa Winter was at the address any earlier? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Do you know where he was in 1939? In the 1939 register on FMP there is a Percy Smith born 29 Feb 1903 living with wife Laura and probably child (hidden) working as a 'S Railway Hydraulic Forge Man Heavy Worker' and living at 353 Hythe Road , Ashford U.D., Kent, England. Actually 1903 wasn't a leap year, and looking at the original image it is probably a bad 8 not a 9, so 28 Feb 1903. Or there is a Percy Smith, Bread baker living in Pontypridd with wife Edith and a child - and this one definitely says 29 Feb on the image! Doesn't sound as likely. Can't find any others. Barbara > From: W and P Smith via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016, 15:55 > Subject: [LIN] Percy Smith > > Many thanks Joan but I have checked this one out and he is definitely not > ours. With a name like Baden Powell Smith it is hard to forget. > > Appreciate your help though. > > Have been checking all paperwork again today and he seemed to favour 28th > (or 29th) February 1903 as a birth date but nothing seems to tally with > that. > > Hey ho! > > WS > > - >

1939 reg has Louisa Winter born 1864 living Ropsley, Chapel Hill wid on her own From: W and P Smith via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016, 15:19 Subject: [LIN] SMITH Not sure whether I sent this too soon but just in case, here is my request again. We are yet again trying to trace the birth date for my husband’s father  Percy SMITH.  He was not very helpful in his lifetime and never gave the same birth date twice.  He said 29th Feb.  1900 1901 or 1902 but also said he was adopted / a foundling. On his army record he gave Nottingham, Notts as his birth place and that his mother was  Louisa WINTER.  Who knows whether he was fibbing or not.  He never bothered to tell my husband that he had a natural sister but that is another story. We do know that he worked for Ruston and Hornsby as a driller around 1918 or so before he joined the Army in 1922 (until 1934).  His ”mother” supposedly lived in Chapel Hill, Ropsley, Nr. Grantham when he joined up.  On his first marriage cert in 1931 he gave no father or profession.  On his 2nd marriage cert (he married 3 times!!) he said his father was George.    Would have thought he would have put that name at his first marriage if it were true. So – can SKS tell me which schools are closest to Chapel Hill in the 1910’s+ ?  Are there any searchable records of employees with Ruston & Hornsby?    Any suggestions for further research of his early years would be much appreciated. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

29th Feb only happens in a leap year. did he give a birth date on his army enlistment? From: W and P Smith via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016, 15:55 Subject: [LIN] Percy Smith Many thanks Joan but I have checked this one out and he is definitely not ours.  With a name like Baden Powell Smith it is hard to forget. Appreciate your help though. Have been checking all paperwork again today and he seemed to favour 28th (or 29th) February 1903 as a birth date but nothing seems to tally with that. Hey ho! WS --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Forgot to say, there was no Feb 29th in any of those years- so 28th seems more likely. Margaret On 16/02/2016 15:55, W and P Smith via wrote: > Many thanks Joan but I have checked this one out and he is definitely not ours. With a name like Baden Powell Smith it is hard to forget. > > Appreciate your help though. > > Have been checking all paperwork again today and he seemed to favour 28th (or 29th) February 1903 as a birth date but nothing seems to tally with that. > > Hey ho! > > WS > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to the Notts FHS disks, in the whole county- - a Louisa WINTER married John Robert SCHOOLAR in 1891 (6th Jan) in Lenton. That's the only marriage recorded with her name. There are no children baptised with her married name as a mother. - There were no children baptised with John or Robert SCHOOLAR as father in the 10 years after the marriage. - The only child in the baptismal records with Louisa SMITH, SCHOOLAR or WINTER recorded as mother was Harriet Alicia SMITH baptised 21st July 1897 to Louisa SMITH, a single woman. a search of the National Archives shows that the "Records of Ruston & Hornby Ltd" are available at the Museum of English Rural Life. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/1dea99a9-ac2d-40ac-a450-937b7d5e1cce They see to have catalogues and "administrative & commercial records" - whatever that means... I've never heard of that Museum, but it's in Reading. I'm sure they'd be helpful & give you details... Good luck Margaret On 16/02/2016 13:33, W and P Smith via wrote: > We are yet again trying to trace the birth date for my husband’s father Percy SMITH. He was not very helpful in his lifetime and never gave the same birth date twice. He said 29th Feb. 1900 1901 or 1902 but also said he was adopted / a foundling. > On his army record he gave Nottingham, Notts as his birth place and that his mother was Louisa WINTER. Who knows whether he was fibbing or not. He never bothered to tell my husband that he had a natural sister but that is another story. > > We do know that he worked for Ruston and Hornsby as a driller around 1918 or so before he joined the Army in 1922 (until 1934). His ”mother” supposedly lived in Chapel Hill, Ropsley, Nr. Grantham when he joined up. > > On his first marriage cert in 1931 he gave no father or profession. On his 2nd marriage cert (he married 3 times!!) he said his father was George. Would have thought he would have put that name at his first marriage if it were true. > > So – can SKS tell me which schools are closest to Chapel Hill in the 1910’s+ ? Are there any searchable records of employees with Ruston & Hornsby? > > Any suggestions for further research of his early years would be much appreciated. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks Joan but I have checked this one out and he is definitely not ours. With a name like Baden Powell Smith it is hard to forget. Appreciate your help though. Have been checking all paperwork again today and he seemed to favour 28th (or 29th) February 1903 as a birth date but nothing seems to tally with that. Hey ho! WS --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Not sure whether I sent this too soon but just in case, here is my request again. We are yet again trying to trace the birth date for my husband’s father Percy SMITH. He was not very helpful in his lifetime and never gave the same birth date twice. He said 29th Feb. 1900 1901 or 1902 but also said he was adopted / a foundling. On his army record he gave Nottingham, Notts as his birth place and that his mother was Louisa WINTER. Who knows whether he was fibbing or not. He never bothered to tell my husband that he had a natural sister but that is another story. We do know that he worked for Ruston and Hornsby as a driller around 1918 or so before he joined the Army in 1922 (until 1934). His ”mother” supposedly lived in Chapel Hill, Ropsley, Nr. Grantham when he joined up. On his first marriage cert in 1931 he gave no father or profession. On his 2nd marriage cert (he married 3 times!!) he said his father was George. Would have thought he would have put that name at his first marriage if it were true. So – can SKS tell me which schools are closest to Chapel Hill in the 1910’s+ ? Are there any searchable records of employees with Ruston & Hornsby? Any suggestions for further research of his early years would be much appreciated. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

There is a Louisa Winter living near Boston on the 1911 census living with her brother Frank aged 39, Mary Plant aged 2 and Effie Wells aged 65. Louisa P Winter aged 47, Single All born in Boston, Lincs. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:09 PM, W and P Smith via < eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks Pamela for Louisa Winter in Chapel Hill. That is definitely “our” > Louisa. We actually visited the area a few years back and asked at the > local school where their pupil records might be kept but they were unable > to help us at the time. We also tried at Grantham library but could not > progress it. > > His army papers say he was born 28th Feb. 1903. Nottingham, Notts > > Whether she was a widow who can tell. If she was originally a Smith I > haven’t been able to find a marriage to a Winter at the right time. Can > you tell whether Louisa Winter was at the address any earlier? > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We are yet again trying to trace the birth date for my husband’s father Percy SMITH. He was not very helpful in his lifetime and never gave the same birth date twice. He said 29th Feb. 1900 1901 or 1902 but also said he was adopted / a foundling. On his army record he gave Nottingham, Notts as his birth place and that his mother was Louisa WINTER. Who knows whether he was fibbing or not. He never bothered to tell my husband that he had a natural sister but that is another story. We do know that he worked for Ruston and Hornsby as a driller around 1918 or so before he joined the Army in 1922 (until 1934). His ”mother” supposedly lived in Chapel Hill, Ropsley, Nr. Grantham when he joined up. On his first marriage cert in 1931 he gave no father or profession. On his 2nd marriage cert (he married 3 times!!) he said his father was George. Would have thought he would have put that name at his first marriage if it were true. So – can SKS tell me which schools are closest to Chapel Hill in the 1910’s+ ? Are there any searchable records of employees with Ruston & Hornsby? Any suggestions for further research of his early years would be much appreciated. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Don't know if this is helpful, but FreeBMD shows a Percy Powell SMITH, birth registered in the first quarter of 1901 Notts Page 336. This is the only one who seems possible for the period. I would send for the birth certificate which for a modest fee will give you the mother's name and possibly the father's. Good luck and let us know the outcome. My tree is full of missing fathers! Joan Van Daalen, Ontario Canada. -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W and P Smith via Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:19 AM To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] SMITH Not sure whether I sent this too soon but just in case, here is my request again. We are yet again trying to trace the birth date for my husband’s father Percy SMITH. He was not very helpful in his lifetime and never gave the same birth date twice. He said 29th Feb. 1900 1901 or 1902 but also said he was adopted / a foundling. On his army record he gave Nottingham, Notts as his birth place and that his mother was Louisa WINTER. Who knows whether he was fibbing or not. He never bothered to tell my husband that he had a natural sister but that is another story. We do know that he worked for Ruston and Hornsby as a driller around 1918 or so before he joined the Army in 1922 (until 1934). His ”mother” supposedly lived in Chapel Hill, Ropsley, Nr. Grantham when he joined up. On his first marriage cert in 1931 he gave no father or profession. On his 2nd marriage cert (he married 3 times!!) he said his father was George. Would have thought he would have put that name at his first marriage if it were true. So – can SKS tell me which schools are closest to Chapel Hill in the 1910’s+ ? Are there any searchable records of employees with Ruston & Hornsby? Any suggestions for further research of his early years would be much appreciated. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would he have been removed back to Hundleby workhouse where he was born. He wasnt initially at Skegness was he? It seems to me that his mother has left him as he wasnt with her in the 1851 census, according to your research Bruce. Though he was 8 in 1851 and we know he could have been working by that time. In 1845 though he was only a year old. Have you tried the Spilsby settlement certificates. I have one or two of those certificates, from when I was looking for my William Lane birth place. they tend to have the place they currently live in at the top in big letters and then it gives details of where they are hoping to settle. A removal I thought was when they send you back to your place of settlement as you cannot support yourself, so they dont want you to be a burden on the new place of settlement. These certificates are another good resource that is very underused even when they are available. Anne has said that there are not more Spilsby workhouse records, but I wonder if there are some from Spilsby, but not the workhouse. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Anne Cole via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Bruce, For some reason best known to himself George Cabourn was in Skegness but needed poor relief therefore an investigation would have been made into his settlement and he would have been removed to wherever that was found to be. I saw this entry but didn't connect it with your research (sorry!). Unfortunately some of the minutes are not too helpful. As there is nothing else in the Spilsby Union Workhouse collection that will help, you might try the overseers accounts for Skegness to see if he is mentioned there, that is if there are any. Unfortunately there are no removal orders or settlement examinations for Skegness. However, the parish to which he was removed, which we don't know, and assuming that he was removed, will have had a copy of all the documentation so it could have survived in another parish chest somewhere. I tried the Lindsey Quarter Sessions poor law material where there are several Cabo(u)rns but not as late as 1845. Neither were there any for around this date on the Settlement Examinations and Removal Orders CD although there were a few Caborns there too. What you need is a clue to his parish of settlement, in other words, where was he removed to from Skegness?? The latter CD does cover all the material currently available at Lincolnshire Archives. There did seem to be several Cabourns around Alford. It is remotely possible that the case may have ended up in court, in which case the Petty Sessions minute books, again if there are any for this date, could be useful. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bruce - Family History via Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:16 AM To: ENG-Lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Having found George CARBONE born in Hundleby Workhouse in November 1844 (mother Sarah, father=blank) I knew I wanted to access workhouse records to see what references there might be for him. I had in mind making the journey from Berkshire to the Archives in Lincoln, but to my delight found the Lincs FHS had published extracts from the Spilsby Union Workhouse, and what's more, the booklets were downloadable for a modest fee. Within minutes I found this: "24 April 1845. Ordered that the Clerk do write to the Overseer of Skegness to take the necessary steps to remove George Cabourn to his settlement. [Page 392]". This is the only mention I can find, so I wonder what he had to do with Skegness. Any hints as to what I might do next? Lastly, may I pay tribute to the LFHS transcribers whose dedicated work made this swift discovery possible - in this case Pat Pomeroy, Kathy Hancock & Anne Cole in 2011. Bruce Moffatt Collins Bracknell, Berkshire bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11604 - Release Date: 02/11/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11604 - Release Date: 02/11/16 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only settlement document for Spilsby parish is a book that contains a list of people who arrived by certificate, and it gives very little information. The list is included on the Settlement Certificates CD. 1844 is too late for settlement certificates, they begin to dry up about 1800. There are no other docs for Spilsby but there may be overseers accounts. It is very unlikely that so young a child would be removed anywhere unless it was boarded out, and 1844 is a bit too early for that. Boarding out officially begins in the 1860s. I personally don't think the reference to George Cabourn in the Spilsby Minutes are to this George. However, without more information there is just no way of knowing. Settlement certificates name two places, one is the person's place of legal settlement, which isn't necessarily where the person was living at the time, and the other is the place that the certificate is addressed to, which isn't necessarily where the person ended up. A certificate could be used several times and if the bearer didn't gain a new settlement where he went to live he could use the certificate again to go somewhere else. All this is explained on the CD - and on the Lincolnshire Genuki site. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eamca via Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:26 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com; duncalf@one-name.org Subject: Re: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Would he have been removed back to Hundleby workhouse where he was born. He wasnt initially at Skegness was he? It seems to me that his mother has left him as he wasnt with her in the 1851 census, according to your research Bruce. Though he was 8 in 1851 and we know he could have been working by that time. In 1845 though he was only a year old. Have you tried the Spilsby settlement certificates. I have one or two of those certificates, from when I was looking for my William Lane birth place. they tend to have the place they currently live in at the top in big letters and then it gives details of where they are hoping to settle. A removal I thought was when they send you back to your place of settlement as you cannot support yourself, so they dont want you to be a burden on the new place of settlement. These certificates are another good resource that is very underused even when they are available. Anne has said that there are not more Spilsby workhouse records, but I wonder if there are some from Spilsby, but not the workhouse. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Anne Cole via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: bmc34.fh@ntlworld.com; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Bruce, For some reason best known to himself George Cabourn was in Skegness but needed poor relief therefore an investigation would have been made into his settlement and he would have been removed to wherever that was found to be. I saw this entry but didn't connect it with your research (sorry!). Unfortunately some of the minutes are not too helpful. As there is nothing else in the Spilsby Union Workhouse collection that will help, you might try the overseers accounts for Skegness to see if he is mentioned there, that is if there are any. Unfortunately there are no removal orders or settlement examinations for Skegness. However, the parish to which he was removed, which we don't know, and assuming that he was removed, will have had a copy of all the documentation so it could have survived in another parish chest somewhere. I tried the Lindsey Quarter Sessions poor law material where there are several Cabo(u)rns but not as late as 1845. Neither were there any for around this date on the Settlement Examinations and Removal Orders CD although there were a few Caborns there too. What you need is a clue to his parish of settlement, in other words, where was he removed to from Skegness?? The latter CD does cover all the material currently available at Lincolnshire Archives. There did seem to be several Cabourns around Alford. It is remotely possible that the case may have ended up in court, in which case the Petty Sessions minute books, again if there are any for this date, could be useful. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bruce - Family History via Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:16 AM To: ENG-Lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] George CABON (Spilsby 1844) - In Praise of Transcribers Having found George CARBONE born in Hundleby Workhouse in November 1844 (mother Sarah, father=blank) I knew I wanted to access workhouse records to see what references there might be for him. I had in mind making the journey from Berkshire to the Archives in Lincoln, but to my delight found the Lincs FHS had published extracts from the Spilsby Union Workhouse, and what's more, the booklets were downloadable for a modest fee. Within minutes I found this: "24 April 1845. Ordered that the Clerk do write to the Overseer of Skegness to take the necessary steps to remove George Cabourn to his settlement. [Page 392]". This is the only mention I can find, so I wonder what he had to do with Skegness. Any hints as to what I might do next? Lastly, may I pay tribute to the LFHS transcribers whose dedicated work made this swift discovery possible - in this case Pat Pomeroy, Kathy Hancock & Anne Cole in 2011. 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