Yay Hooray, except I have forgotten what I was looking for ☹ The joys of getting old! Lovely to see all the names again Regards Jan Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Jan Moon via<mailto:eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:42 AM To: Lincolnshire Rootsweb<mailto:eng-lincsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LIN] Testing Seeing if is working again Jan Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lesley, Looking into familysearch.org, searching from 1750 until 1772, in 1754 there is a William baptised in Long Bennington, Lincoln in 1754 father William mother Sarah and others in that time frame in Lincoln and other places mentioned before. https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AWilliam~%20%2Bsurname%3ARowbotham~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1750-1772~%20%2Bgender%3AM&collection_id=1473014 Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Lesley O'Connell via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com; Subject: [LIN] WILLIAM ROWBOTHAM Lou's comments about the lack of messages recently has prompted me to post a query. My ggg grandfather William Rowbotham shows up in Holbeach in 1792 when he marries my ggg grandmother SUSANNAH THIMBLEBY. They had four children, of whom three died in infancy, leaving only my gg grandmother Harriet Thimbleby Rowbotham to survive to adulthood, although she died young as well, at the age of 26 However I can find no information as to where he originally came from. There don't seem to have been any Rowbothams in Holbeach before William's appearance and no other Rowbotham families there afterwards. William was said to be 'of this parish' when he married, so no clues there as to his origins. From the age he was said to be at burial he would have been born around 1756. It looks as if the vast majority of Rowbothams lived in and around Brigg, with a limited number living in Northwest Lincolnshire. Is there anyone on the list researching the Rowbotham family? I have looked at variants such as Rowbottom and Rowbotham on Ancestry, Family Search and FreeReg and have also had a quick look at Linc's to the Past and the TNA website. Any information or suggestions would be most welcome. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No problem I was momentarily baffled :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21/03/2016 18:39, Bernie via wrote: > OOps > Misread the original email > > Should be Staniland in 1881 > Bernie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I Took a look at genesreunited to see where most of the Rowbotham searches are for at the time frame. Just possibles but Cheshire, is a contender for William and the odd one in Scarborough and also Newark Upon Trent, Nott. That could be a possiblility as my Lane went to Newark Upon Trent, Notts, from Billingborough Lincoln. Taking that your William may of married at the age of 25 or thereabouts. Then giving it an extra 20 years. Most were from Cheshire. As it has been discussed before. Folk travelled along the Canal ways quite a distance.Worth while looking beyond Lincoln. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Lesley O'Connell via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com; Subject: [LIN] WILLIAM ROWBOTHAM Lou's comments about the lack of messages recently has prompted me to post a query. My ggg grandfather William Rowbotham shows up in Holbeach in 1792 when he marries my ggg grandmother SUSANNAH THIMBLEBY. They had four children, of whom three died in infancy, leaving only my gg grandmother Harriet Thimbleby Rowbotham to survive to adulthood, although she died young as well, at the age of 26 However I can find no information as to where he originally came from. There don't seem to have been any Rowbothams in Holbeach before William's appearance and no other Rowbotham families there afterwards. William was said to be 'of this parish' when he married, so no clues there as to his origins. From the age he was said to be at burial he would have been born around 1756. It looks as if the vast majority of Rowbothams lived in and around Brigg, with a limited number living in Northwest Lincolnshire. Is there anyone on the list researching the Rowbotham family? I have looked at variants such as Rowbottom and Rowbotham on Ancestry, Family Search and FreeReg and have also had a quick look at Linc's to the Past and the TNA website. Any information or suggestions would be most welcome. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OOps Misread the original email Should be Staniland in 1881 Bernie -----Original Message----- From: Bernie via Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:28 PM To: Chrissie ; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Staniland help Hi Chris In 1881 Rebecca is with George & Frances & given as Stanley. There is a marriage for George as STANILAND (Lincoln 1867)to Frances Rylatt & Metheringham register has Frances dau of Thomas & Hannah bapt 25 Aug 1844 Rebecca has siblings Thos, Charlotte, Hannah, Theresa, Geo W & Edith in 1881. In 1891 ( Gainsborough 2634/99) there are exact matches for Rebecca's siblings who are younger than her plus there are two more born 1881-1891. The family surname name in 1891 is STANILAND. Bernie -----Original Message----- From: Chrissie via Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:47 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Staniland help Good morning list and digest members. Thank you Nivard, Margaret and Leonard for advice on getting around LCC and Lincs to the past. Still having some problems but it looks like Gainsborough Holy Trinity marriages are not available through that site though the marriage index for the marriage I need I could see on many sites. My problem child is Rebecca Staniland ch 13 Oct 1872 and home with her family in 1881. She doesn't get married or die but but a 17 year old Rebecca Stanley does marriage in 1889 to Stephen Winter. Then I can follow her through till she dies, No Rebecca Stanley born in Lincolnshire around 1872 that is why I was hoping to see the marriage. Only a side line but I branch side ways a lot. I have also seen a tree on Ancestry that does have the index of the marriage but again Stanley and they are doing a Staniland tree. I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so I can't make contact. In 1939 Rebecca Winter is born 24 Sept 1872 which would match ok with Oct baptism. I do believe Rebecca Stanley is my girl but I wonder why her surname is different. Chris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nivard and Murray, The same thing happens if you get a DNA match. I have written to so called matches and get no reply. I think unless you are part of their immediate line and not some side line of the same family you wont get a reply in many cases. Other folk are excited if you have matched their surname but on different lines. I am not subscribed to Ancestry but have tested with ydna on my brother and you are just ignored some times. I don't think it is a matter of blaming Ancestry for inaccuracies, as much as dont beleive all you see on Ancestry or other sites without checking them out against copies of originals Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Nivard Ovington via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: mhhr@xtra.co.nz; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] Quiet on Lincs I am as mystified as you are Murray as to why so few reply Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/03/2016 22:12, mhhr wrote: > Hi Nivard and others. > > Having just upgraded my "Family Tree Makker 1995" I have also taken the > plunge and joined "Ancestry" > > My initial thoughts were wow, look at all the new rellies I have found. > > Alas, at least 85% of them don't share my excitement as my inquiries to > them go unaswered. I am careful to note if the people I write to have > logged on recently. Some I have written to without response seem to log > on at least weekly. > But as Nivard says, don't blame Ancestry. > > Murray > NZ

Hi Bernie Where are you finding the family as STANLEY in 1881? I can only find them as STANILAND in Glentham Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21/03/2016 17:28, Bernie via wrote: > Hi Chris > In 1881 Rebecca is with George & Frances & given as Stanley. > There is a marriage for George as STANILAND (Lincoln 1867)to Frances Rylatt > & Metheringham register has Frances dau of Thomas & Hannah bapt 25 Aug 1844 > Rebecca has siblings Thos, Charlotte, Hannah, Theresa, Geo W & Edith in > 1881. > In 1891 ( Gainsborough 2634/99) there are exact matches for Rebecca's > siblings > who are younger than her plus there are two more born 1881-1891. > The family surname name in 1891 is STANILAND. > Bernie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi David and all Thank you for your response, David. I guess I need to take another look on the Ancestry site to understand why there are no responses. Perhaps I don’t have enough tree posted or I’m not understanding what their posting. I did the testing primarily because I have two separate surname researchers who are stuck and asked if I’d do this to help them connect to my line. They both have been very good to help me so thought this might help them. The ethnicity that came back for me is totally what I expected so I’m quite happy with that part of the results. Years ago my now research partner and cousin proved his connection to my manoral Suffolk line by DNA so I’m not new to this. I do realize Ancestry’s DNA system of pairing up is a totally different method. If anyone can give me some direction as to how I can understand these results I would be most grateful. Linda B.C. Canada Linda, I took a DNA test with Ancestry back in February. Many of my supposed matches relate to subscribers who either haven't posted their tree on Ancestry or alternatively have private trees. Just in passing my autosomal DNA sample tested by Ancestry provided some interesting ethnicity suggestions which were contradicted when I uploaded my DNA sample for analysis by FamilytreeDNA the latter being in partnership with the US National Geographic Magazine which on balance I think trust more. David Meredith.... Nottinghamshire. _____ Hi all, I have put my PLOWRIGHT/HOOTON tree on Ancestry as it appears no one is interested in taking it up when my time comes. I wonder how many trees on Ancestry are there but the one that has compile the tree is not around anymore? At the moment it is "a private tree" however, it appears if you do the DNA thing your tree has to be "public" or it won't produce the connections one wishes to find. Is that the case? Linda BC Canada

Hi Chris In 1881 Rebecca is with George & Frances & given as Stanley. There is a marriage for George as STANILAND (Lincoln 1867)to Frances Rylatt & Metheringham register has Frances dau of Thomas & Hannah bapt 25 Aug 1844 Rebecca has siblings Thos, Charlotte, Hannah, Theresa, Geo W & Edith in 1881. In 1891 ( Gainsborough 2634/99) there are exact matches for Rebecca's siblings who are younger than her plus there are two more born 1881-1891. The family surname name in 1891 is STANILAND. Bernie -----Original Message----- From: Chrissie via Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:47 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Staniland help Good morning list and digest members. Thank you Nivard, Margaret and Leonard for advice on getting around LCC and Lincs to the past. Still having some problems but it looks like Gainsborough Holy Trinity marriages are not available through that site though the marriage index for the marriage I need I could see on many sites. My problem child is Rebecca Staniland ch 13 Oct 1872 and home with her family in 1881. She doesn't get married or die but but a 17 year old Rebecca Stanley does marriage in 1889 to Stephen Winter. Then I can follow her through till she dies, No Rebecca Stanley born in Lincolnshire around 1872 that is why I was hoping to see the marriage. Only a side line but I branch side ways a lot. I have also seen a tree on Ancestry that does have the index of the marriage but again Stanley and they are doing a Staniland tree. I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so I can't make contact. In 1939 Rebecca Winter is born 24 Sept 1872 which would match ok with Oct baptism. I do believe Rebecca Stanley is my girl but I wonder why her surname is different. Chris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

People (mainly members of Lincolnshire FHS but in a non-LFHS project) have been transcribing the main details from the PRs of post-1837 marriages through to 1911 when the GRO Index began to enter the spouse's surname into the Index. http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ The Lincs marriage index shows the name as Rebecca Stanley, father's name George. The Lincs post-1837 Marriage Index is still an on-going work, though most registration districts are now as complete as the registers deposited at Lincolnshire Archives will allow. Please read the introduction to each district before searching. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 21 March 2016 at 04:47, Chrissie via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good morning list and digest members. Thank you Nivard, Margaret and > Leonard for advice on getting around LCC and Lincs to the past. > Still having some problems but it looks like Gainsborough Holy > Trinity marriages are not available through that site though the > marriage index for the marriage I need I could see on many sites. My > problem child is Rebecca Staniland ch 13 Oct 1872 and home with her > family in 1881. She doesn't get married or die but but a 17 year old > Rebecca Stanley does marriage in 1889 to Stephen Winter. Then I can > follow her through till she dies, No Rebecca Stanley born in > Lincolnshire around 1872 that is why I was hoping to see the > marriage. Only a side line but I branch side ways a lot. I have also > seen a tree on Ancestry that does have the index of the marriage but > again Stanley and they are doing a Staniland tree. I don't have a > subscription to Ancestry so I can't make contact. In 1939 Rebecca > Winter is born 24 Sept 1872 which would match ok with Oct baptism. I > do believe Rebecca Stanley is my girl but I wonder why her surname is > different. Chris > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1889 17-Jun Winter Stephen James Stanley Rebecca George Gainsborough Holy Trinity Stanley on the free post 1837 marriage index too. See the online version for the column headings (web address below). Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:23 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Staniland help Hi Chris Findmypast have the Lincolnshire PRs to browse but they don't have any post 1837 marriages for Gainsborough either From the old BVRI2 England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) Stephen Last name Winter Name note - Age 20 Marriage year 1889 Marriage date 17 Jun 1889 Marriage place Gainsborough Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Winter Spouse's first name(s) Rebecca Spouse's last name Stanley Spouse's birth year 1872 Spouse's birth date 1872 Spouse's father's first name(s) George Spouse's father's last name Stanley Residence Gainsborough, Lincoln, England County Lincolnshire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl Which also lends weight to your theory I would contact the reg office in Lincs that currently hold the registers, supplying the date and details and ask if they might be able to check that marriage to see if its STANLEY on the original The error (if there is one) might have been in the passing of information to the GRO in the quarterly returns Otherwise you will need to buy the certificate (from the reg office not the GRO) Sometimes you just have to open you purse unfortunately Of course the error might be at the outset and its STANLEY in the register, the witnesses and or addresses may prove its the right young lady Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21/03/2016 04:47, Chrissie via wrote: > Good morning list and digest members. Thank you Nivard, Margaret and > Leonard for advice on getting around LCC and Lincs to the past. > Still having some problems but it looks like Gainsborough Holy Trinity > marriages are not available through that site though the marriage > index for the marriage I need I could see on many sites. My problem > child is Rebecca Staniland ch 13 Oct 1872 and home with her family in > 1881. She doesn't get married or die but but a 17 year old Rebecca > Stanley does marriage in 1889 to Stephen Winter. Then I can follow > her through till she dies, No Rebecca Stanley born in Lincolnshire > around 1872 that is why I was hoping to see the marriage. Only a side > line but I branch side ways a lot. I have also seen a tree on Ancestry > that does have the index of the marriage but again Stanley and they > are doing a Staniland tree. I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so > I can't make contact. In 1939 Rebecca Winter is born 24 Sept 1872 > which would match ok with Oct baptism. I do believe Rebecca Stanley is > my girl but I wonder why her surname is different. Chris --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4542/11858 - Release Date: 03/21/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4542/11858 - Release Date: 03/21/16

Linda, I took a DNA test with Ancestry back in February. Many of my supposed matches relate to subscribers who either haven't posted their tree on Ancestry or alternatively have private trees. Just in passing my autosomal DNA sample tested by Ancestry provided some interesting ethnicity suggestions which were contradicted when I uploaded my DNA sample for analysis by FamilytreeDNA the latter being in partnership with the US National Geographic Magazine which on balance I think trust more. David Meredith.... Nottinghamshire. ________________________________ From: linda via<mailto:eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: ‎20/‎03/‎2016 23:48 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LIN] Quiet on Lincs Hi all, I have put my PLOWRIGHT/HOOTON tree on Ancestry as it appears no one is interested in taking it up when my time comes. I wonder how many trees on Ancestry are there but the one that has compile the tree is not around anymore? At the moment it is "a private tree" however, it appears if you do the DNA thing your tree has to be "public" or it won't produce the connections one wishes to find. Is that the case? Linda BC Canada I am as mystified as you are Murray as to why so few reply I do know there was a problem with the Ancestry internal email system and people were never getting the messages, hence no replies I have done some tests at different times but they got through (I messaged known people and emailed to alert them to reply and also in reverse) But whether there is still a problem is hard to say Certainly its very strange that so few respond and its not just us as its been mentioned in several places previously A lot of the people are it seems accessing Ancestry on a regular basis or perhaps that triggering system is not working as it should and more people are not actually using Ancestry at all and the accounts we are contacting are dormant? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning list and digest members. Thank you Nivard, Margaret and Leonard for advice on getting around LCC and Lincs to the past. Still having some problems but it looks like Gainsborough Holy Trinity marriages are not available through that site though the marriage index for the marriage I need I could see on many sites. My problem child is Rebecca Staniland ch 13 Oct 1872 and home with her family in 1881. She doesn't get married or die but but a 17 year old Rebecca Stanley does marriage in 1889 to Stephen Winter. Then I can follow her through till she dies, No Rebecca Stanley born in Lincolnshire around 1872 that is why I was hoping to see the marriage. Only a side line but I branch side ways a lot. I have also seen a tree on Ancestry that does have the index of the marriage but again Stanley and they are doing a Staniland tree. I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so I can't make contact. In 1939 Rebecca Winter is born 24 Sept 1872 which would match ok with Oct baptism. I do believe Rebecca Stanley is my girl but I wonder why her surname is different. Chris

Hi Nivard and others. Having just upgraded my "Family Tree Makker 1995" I have also taken the plunge and joined "Ancestry" My initial thoughts were wow, look at all the new rellies I have found. Alas, at least 85% of them don't share my excitement as my inquiries to them go unaswered. I am careful to note if the people I write to have logged on recently. Some I have written to without response seem to log on at least weekly. I have concluded that there are many, many subscribers who in days of old would have collected teaspoons or similar. Today they collect names which a clever computer programs sorts for them. Lets face teaspoons do take up a fair bit of room. I have been astonished to see that some subscribers have more names on "their" tree than some countries have people. That ain't genealogy! But as Nivard says, don't blame Ancestry. Murray NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington via" <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Quiet on Lincs > > > Sorry Rex but how can you blame Ancestry for users poor research? > > Do you expect Ancestry to police the trees online? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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If I  recall correctly lincstothepast are not allowed to post images of post July 1837 marriages on line though they can be seen at the archives. I'm sure Anne Cole will have the correct information  Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Chrissie via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Date: 21/03/2016 04:47 (GMT+00:00) To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Staniland help Good morning list and digest members. Thank you Nivard, Margaret and Leonard for advice on getting around LCC and Lincs to the past. Still having some problems but it looks like Gainsborough Holy Trinity marriages are not available through that site though the marriage index for the marriage I need I could see on many sites. My problem child is Rebecca Staniland ch 13 Oct 1872 and home with her family in 1881. She doesn't get married or die but but a 17 year old Rebecca Stanley does marriage in 1889 to Stephen Winter. Then I can follow her through till she dies, No Rebecca Stanley born in Lincolnshire around 1872 that is why I was hoping to see the marriage. Only a side line but I branch side ways a lot. I have also seen a tree on Ancestry that does have the index of the marriage but again Stanley and they are doing a Staniland tree. I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so I can't make contact. In 1939 Rebecca Winter is born 24 Sept 1872 which would match ok with Oct baptism. I do believe Rebecca Stanley is my girl but I wonder why her surname is different. Chris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Chris. I have rechecked the register and the fathers name is clearly recorded as George STANLEY and the bride signs as Rebecca STANLEY. Mick. Lincolnshire co-ordinator for FreeReg

Hi Chris Findmypast have the Lincolnshire PRs to browse but they don't have any post 1837 marriages for Gainsborough either From the old BVRI2 England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) Stephen Last name Winter Name note - Age 20 Marriage year 1889 Marriage date 17 Jun 1889 Marriage place Gainsborough Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Winter Spouse's first name(s) Rebecca Spouse's last name Stanley Spouse's birth year 1872 Spouse's birth date 1872 Spouse's father's first name(s) George Spouse's father's last name Stanley Residence Gainsborough, Lincoln, England County Lincolnshire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl Which also lends weight to your theory I would contact the reg office in Lincs that currently hold the registers, supplying the date and details and ask if they might be able to check that marriage to see if its STANLEY on the original The error (if there is one) might have been in the passing of information to the GRO in the quarterly returns Otherwise you will need to buy the certificate (from the reg office not the GRO) Sometimes you just have to open you purse unfortunately Of course the error might be at the outset and its STANLEY in the register, the witnesses and or addresses may prove its the right young lady Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21/03/2016 04:47, Chrissie via wrote: > Good morning list and digest members. Thank you Nivard, Margaret and > Leonard for advice on getting around LCC and Lincs to the past. > Still having some problems but it looks like Gainsborough Holy > Trinity marriages are not available through that site though the > marriage index for the marriage I need I could see on many sites. My > problem child is Rebecca Staniland ch 13 Oct 1872 and home with her > family in 1881. She doesn't get married or die but but a 17 year old > Rebecca Stanley does marriage in 1889 to Stephen Winter. Then I can > follow her through till she dies, No Rebecca Stanley born in > Lincolnshire around 1872 that is why I was hoping to see the > marriage. Only a side line but I branch side ways a lot. I have also > seen a tree on Ancestry that does have the index of the marriage but > again Stanley and they are doing a Staniland tree. I don't have a > subscription to Ancestry so I can't make contact. In 1939 Rebecca > Winter is born 24 Sept 1872 which would match ok with Oct baptism. I > do believe Rebecca Stanley is my girl but I wonder why her surname is > different. Chris --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Bazza, You will have to ask Pamela Baillie, as FENTON is her line not mine, sorry. My brick wall in Lincolnshire is LANE. Other names TWELLS, THROSLEY/THROSBY. CRANE from lincs. There will be times when you just have to spend a dollar/pound or two, there is no getting away from it Barry. I am sure no one is upset with you. You are entitled to your opinion. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Barry Wilson via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> To: pamela.baillie1@btopenworld.com; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [LIN] Replying to individual on list Thanks to all who have replied to my comments, it was not my intention to criticize Nivard, indeed I fully agree with the comment that he helps many other people on the way, which is a huge credit to him, I must learn , even at my age, to hold my own council a bit more, so as not to upset others . As a last thought though, maybe $24.95 is not very much to some, to others it is just to much. Edie is that Fenton, person name or village name please, because nearly all of my wife's family come from the village of Fenton Lincolnshire, by the name of ANDREW. Thanks again for your forbearance folk. Bazza

Lou's comments about the lack of messages recently has prompted me to post a query. My ggg grandfather William Rowbotham shows up in Holbeach in 1792 when he marries my ggg grandmother SUSANNAH THIMBLEBY. They had four children, of whom three died in infancy, leaving only my gg grandmother Harriet Thimbleby Rowbotham to survive to adulthood, although she died young as well, at the age of 26 However I can find no information as to where he originally came from. There don't seem to have been any Rowbothams in Holbeach before William's appearance and no other Rowbotham families there afterwards. William was said to be 'of this parish' when he married, so no clues there as to his origins. From the age he was said to be at burial he would have been born around 1756. It looks as if the vast majority of Rowbothams lived in and around Brigg, with a limited number living in Northwest Lincolnshire. Is there anyone on the list researching the Rowbotham family? I have looked at variants such as Rowbottom and Rowbotham on Ancestry, Family Search and FreeReg and have also had a quick look at Linc's to the Past and the TNA website. Any information or suggestions would be most welcome.