I always order mine direct from GRO now, (follow link on freebmd) Usually quick and a copy of what is written unlike some I have received in the past from local register offices that have been hand written out with errors Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Peter Atkinson via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Date: 10/05/2016 16:20 (GMT+00:00) To: eng-lincs gen <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LIN] Local Registry Offices Hello List, Just wondering if anyone else has had any long delays receiving certificates from any Local Registry Offices. In the past I have had a very good service with a quick turn around, I think all have been received within a week of ordering either by post or on-line. Although not a specific Lincs question, my latest order was made on-line with Croydon, London on 6th April. I did send a reminder and after an email reply eventually got a phone call over a week ago, but still no certs. Peter Newcastle upon Tyne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there a kind soul who would photo and email me a picture of my ancestor's grave? The information is:- Monumental inscriptions Deeping St Nicholas Blott Peake age 79 died 6 February 1893. Buried Deeping St Nicholas Reference C4 number 32605 Regards from Jill in New Zealand

Thank you to all who have provided information about Methodist records in Lincs. Jan Marchant > To: alan.moorhouse@btinternet.com; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 17:11:37 +0100 > Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > From: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Yes, Alan, I was trying to remember the RG number but couldn't! I believe > Lincolnshire Archives has a copy of the Lincolnshire RG4 fiche. I don't know > if they go past 1837. I know that there was some kind of ruling that all pre > 1837 non conformist registers had to be submitted to the Public Record > Office, whether that was just for filming and then they went back to where > they came from or whether they are still all at Kew I don't know. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan R Moorhouse via > Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 4:41 PM > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > > > These should appear in the RG4 series at TNA Kew; if I recall correctly some > go later than 1837? > > Alan Moorhouse > Stroud, Gloucestershire > farmery@one-name.org > > > ----Original message---- > >From : eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Date : 05/05/2016 - 16:29 (GMTDT) > To : oziepoms@live.com.au, eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [LIN] > Admin note: May theme > > All the non conformist, including Methodist, records for before 1837 in > England and Wales that had survived were filmed and can be seen on many pay > per view sites - maybe there is a free site as well? They were also included > on the IGI (now Family Search). Post 1837 records are usually to be found in > County Record Offices, or libraries, provided that they have survived and > been deposited. Lincolnshire has some Methodist Records and you should be > able to find out what they have via the Lincs to the Past Website. Most have > not been filmed and therefore can only be viewed at Lincoln. We have > included the post 1837 marriages that are available in the free on-line Post > 1837 Marriage Index. > > There are some Methodist records, mostly not registers, on the LFHS CD > "Nonconformist Records Part 1". The CD includes Dissenters Certificates > issued to non-conformists as places of worship had to be licensed by the > Quarter Sessions. These certificates are often signed by the congregations > wishing to use the place of worship. They cover Baptists, Anabaptists, > Independents as well as Methodists. Many of these certificates are not > indexed and I have photographed all the ones that I have found whilst going > through the Kesteven Quarter Sessions, one of the earliest dated 1761 > requesting permission for Independent Protestants to meet in a purpose built > meeting house in Billinghay. The certificate even gives the name of the > person who purchased the land on which the meeting house was built! > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Marchant via > Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 5:25 AM > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > > I haven't been able to find any Methodist records for my ancestors. > Fortunately many of them entered their BMDs on Parish Records but I'd like > to find Methodist Church records. How do I go about that? > > Jan Marchant, Australia > > > > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:49:51 -0700 > > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > > From: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > > > Hi, Missing Lincs. > > > > Susan Reynolds suggested our theme for this month: Faith of Our > Fathers > > > > Susan has found that knowing more about the religion of her > > ancestors > has made it easier for her to navigate the records that were kept. It's > likely that our ancestor were more religious than we might be. Once a week > they marched off to church to hear a sermon on Christian history and values. > Or they attended synagogue or a pagan rite, but there was almost all some > "belief system" that was a part of their lives. In most of Britain, the > Church (the Christian one) assumed a civil role for over a 1,000 years. The > Royals took advantage of that structure the church had in place. When Civil > Registration was introduced, the local christian parishes became the Civil > Parishes (with some minor exceptions). There were some holdovers from the > Viking Era: Wapentakes and Hundreds. > > > > Even the courts recognized the legitimacy of birthright using the > parish baptism registers. > > > > So there are valuable records that the churches kept. Not only > > the > registers of baptism and marriage and burial, but the churchwarden accounts, > church census records (these are rare), confirmation lists and others. Many > of the churches were our first schools. > > > > If you haven't dug through some of those records, you might find > > some > interesting information. I found one of my relatives down in Kent was an > adult in a confirmation class. Must have stood out like a sore thumb! I > imagine him sitting there with all those 12 to 14 year-olds, trying to focus > on what he had to learn. The local Bishop attended their first communion. > > > > So, tell us what you've found about a Lincolnshire relative in > > some > unexpected church record. 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>From what I read that under the Act is that registers must be kept in proper archival storage conditions, hence some parishes are content with leaving their originals in county archives. There was a reluctance from some of them initially. Could be the same for non-conformist material with the PRO/National Archives. Makes sense to preserve the originals even after they have been filmed. Keith Wellington, NZ -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole via Sent: Friday, 6 May 2016 4:12 AM To: alan.moorhouse@btinternet.com; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme Yes, Alan, I was trying to remember the RG number but couldn't! I believe Lincolnshire Archives has a copy of the Lincolnshire RG4 fiche. I don't know if they go past 1837. I know that there was some kind of ruling that all pre 1837 non conformist registers had to be submitted to the Public Record Office, whether that was just for filming and then they went back to where they came from or whether they are still all at Kew I don't know. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan R Moorhouse via Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 4:41 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme These should appear in the RG4 series at TNA Kew; if I recall correctly some go later than 1837? Alan Moorhouse Stroud, Gloucestershire farmery@one-name.org ----Original message---- >From : eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Date : 05/05/2016 - 16:29 (GMTDT) To : oziepoms@live.com.au, eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme All the non conformist, including Methodist, records for before 1837 in England and Wales that had survived were filmed and can be seen on many pay per view sites - maybe there is a free site as well? They were also included on the IGI (now Family Search). Post 1837 records are usually to be found in County Record Offices, or libraries, provided that they have survived and been deposited. Lincolnshire has some Methodist Records and you should be able to find out what they have via the Lincs to the Past Website. Most have not been filmed and therefore can only be viewed at Lincoln. We have included the post 1837 marriages that are available in the free on-line Post 1837 Marriage Index. There are some Methodist records, mostly not registers, on the LFHS CD "Nonconformist Records Part 1". The CD includes Dissenters Certificates issued to non-conformists as places of worship had to be licensed by the Quarter Sessions. These certificates are often signed by the congregations wishing to use the place of worship. They cover Baptists, Anabaptists, Independents as well as Methodists. Many of these certificates are not indexed and I have photographed all the ones that I have found whilst going through the Kesteven Quarter Sessions, one of the earliest dated 1761 requesting permission for Independent Protestants to meet in a purpose built meeting house in Billinghay. The certificate even gives the name of the person who purchased the land on which the meeting house was built! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Marchant via Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 5:25 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme I haven't been able to find any Methodist records for my ancestors. Fortunately many of them entered their BMDs on Parish Records but I'd like to find Methodist Church records. How do I go about that? Jan Marchant, Australia > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:49:51 -0700 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > From: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Hi, Missing Lincs. > > Susan Reynolds suggested our theme for this month: Faith of Our Fathers > > Susan has found that knowing more about the religion of her > ancestors has made it easier for her to navigate the records that were kept. It's likely that our ancestor were more religious than we might be. Once a week they marched off to church to hear a sermon on Christian history and values. Or they attended synagogue or a pagan rite, but there was almost all some "belief system" that was a part of their lives. In most of Britain, the Church (the Christian one) assumed a civil role for over a 1,000 years. The Royals took advantage of that structure the church had in place. When Civil Registration was introduced, the local christian parishes became the Civil Parishes (with some minor exceptions). There were some holdovers from the Viking Era: Wapentakes and Hundreds. > > Even the courts recognized the legitimacy of birthright using the parish baptism registers. > > So there are valuable records that the churches kept. Not only > the registers of baptism and marriage and burial, but the churchwarden accounts, church census records (these are rare), confirmation lists and others. Many of the churches were our first schools. > > If you haven't dug through some of those records, you might find > some interesting information. I found one of my relatives down in Kent was an adult in a confirmation class. Must have stood out like a sore thumb! I imagine him sitting there with all those 12 to 14 year-olds, trying to focus on what he had to learn. The local Bishop attended their first communion. > > So, tell us what you've found about a Lincolnshire relative in > some unexpected church record. 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Yes, Alan, I was trying to remember the RG number but couldn't! I believe Lincolnshire Archives has a copy of the Lincolnshire RG4 fiche. I don't know if they go past 1837. I know that there was some kind of ruling that all pre 1837 non conformist registers had to be submitted to the Public Record Office, whether that was just for filming and then they went back to where they came from or whether they are still all at Kew I don't know. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan R Moorhouse via Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 4:41 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme These should appear in the RG4 series at TNA Kew; if I recall correctly some go later than 1837? Alan Moorhouse Stroud, Gloucestershire farmery@one-name.org ----Original message---- >From : eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Date : 05/05/2016 - 16:29 (GMTDT) To : oziepoms@live.com.au, eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme All the non conformist, including Methodist, records for before 1837 in England and Wales that had survived were filmed and can be seen on many pay per view sites - maybe there is a free site as well? They were also included on the IGI (now Family Search). Post 1837 records are usually to be found in County Record Offices, or libraries, provided that they have survived and been deposited. Lincolnshire has some Methodist Records and you should be able to find out what they have via the Lincs to the Past Website. Most have not been filmed and therefore can only be viewed at Lincoln. We have included the post 1837 marriages that are available in the free on-line Post 1837 Marriage Index. There are some Methodist records, mostly not registers, on the LFHS CD "Nonconformist Records Part 1". The CD includes Dissenters Certificates issued to non-conformists as places of worship had to be licensed by the Quarter Sessions. These certificates are often signed by the congregations wishing to use the place of worship. They cover Baptists, Anabaptists, Independents as well as Methodists. Many of these certificates are not indexed and I have photographed all the ones that I have found whilst going through the Kesteven Quarter Sessions, one of the earliest dated 1761 requesting permission for Independent Protestants to meet in a purpose built meeting house in Billinghay. The certificate even gives the name of the person who purchased the land on which the meeting house was built! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Marchant via Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 5:25 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme I haven't been able to find any Methodist records for my ancestors. Fortunately many of them entered their BMDs on Parish Records but I'd like to find Methodist Church records. How do I go about that? Jan Marchant, Australia > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:49:51 -0700 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > From: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Hi, Missing Lincs. > > Susan Reynolds suggested our theme for this month: Faith of Our Fathers > > Susan has found that knowing more about the religion of her > ancestors has made it easier for her to navigate the records that were kept. It's likely that our ancestor were more religious than we might be. Once a week they marched off to church to hear a sermon on Christian history and values. Or they attended synagogue or a pagan rite, but there was almost all some "belief system" that was a part of their lives. In most of Britain, the Church (the Christian one) assumed a civil role for over a 1,000 years. The Royals took advantage of that structure the church had in place. When Civil Registration was introduced, the local christian parishes became the Civil Parishes (with some minor exceptions). There were some holdovers from the Viking Era: Wapentakes and Hundreds. > > Even the courts recognized the legitimacy of birthright using the parish baptism registers. > > So there are valuable records that the churches kept. Not only > the registers of baptism and marriage and burial, but the churchwarden accounts, church census records (these are rare), confirmation lists and others. Many of the churches were our first schools. > > If you haven't dug through some of those records, you might find > some interesting information. I found one of my relatives down in Kent was an adult in a confirmation class. Must have stood out like a sore thumb! I imagine him sitting there with all those 12 to 14 year-olds, trying to focus on what he had to learn. The local Bishop attended their first communion. > > So, tell us what you've found about a Lincolnshire relative in > some unexpected church record. And if you need help, this is the place to ask. > > Lou (list admin.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7596 / Virus Database: 4565/12167 - Release Date: 05/05/16 ----- No virus found in this message. 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These should appear in the RG4 series at TNA Kew; if I recall correctly some go later than 1837? Alan Moorhouse Stroud, Gloucestershire farmery@one-name.org ----Original message---- >From : eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Date : 05/05/2016 - 16:29 (GMTDT) To : oziepoms@live.com.au, eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme All the non conformist, including Methodist, records for before 1837 in England and Wales that had survived were filmed and can be seen on many pay per view sites - maybe there is a free site as well? They were also included on the IGI (now Family Search). Post 1837 records are usually to be found in County Record Offices, or libraries, provided that they have survived and been deposited. Lincolnshire has some Methodist Records and you should be able to find out what they have via the Lincs to the Past Website. Most have not been filmed and therefore can only be viewed at Lincoln. We have included the post 1837 marriages that are available in the free on-line Post 1837 Marriage Index. There are some Methodist records, mostly not registers, on the LFHS CD "Nonconformist Records Part 1". The CD includes Dissenters Certificates issued to non-conformists as places of worship had to be licensed by the Quarter Sessions. These certificates are often signed by the congregations wishing to use the place of worship. They cover Baptists, Anabaptists, Independents as well as Methodists. Many of these certificates are not indexed and I have photographed all the ones that I have found whilst going through the Kesteven Quarter Sessions, one of the earliest dated 1761 requesting permission for Independent Protestants to meet in a purpose built meeting house in Billinghay. The certificate even gives the name of the person who purchased the land on which the meeting house was built! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Marchant via Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 5:25 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme I haven't been able to find any Methodist records for my ancestors. Fortunately many of them entered their BMDs on Parish Records but I'd like to find Methodist Church records. How do I go about that? Jan Marchant, Australia > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:49:51 -0700 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > From: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Hi, Missing Lincs. > > Susan Reynolds suggested our theme for this month: Faith of Our Fathers > > Susan has found that knowing more about the religion of her ancestors has made it easier for her to navigate the records that were kept. It's likely that our ancestor were more religious than we might be. Once a week they marched off to church to hear a sermon on Christian history and values. Or they attended synagogue or a pagan rite, but there was almost all some "belief system" that was a part of their lives. In most of Britain, the Church (the Christian one) assumed a civil role for over a 1,000 years. The Royals took advantage of that structure the church had in place. When Civil Registration was introduced, the local christian parishes became the Civil Parishes (with some minor exceptions). There were some holdovers from the Viking Era: Wapentakes and Hundreds. > > Even the courts recognized the legitimacy of birthright using the parish baptism registers. > > So there are valuable records that the churches kept. Not only the registers of baptism and marriage and burial, but the churchwarden accounts, church census records (these are rare), confirmation lists and others. Many of the churches were our first schools. > > If you haven't dug through some of those records, you might find some interesting information. I found one of my relatives down in Kent was an adult in a confirmation class. Must have stood out like a sore thumb! I imagine him sitting there with all those 12 to 14 year-olds, trying to focus on what he had to learn. The local Bishop attended their first communion. > > So, tell us what you've found about a Lincolnshire relative in some unexpected church record. And if you need help, this is the place to ask. > > Lou (list admin.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7596 / Virus Database: 4565/12167 - Release Date: 05/05/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7596 / Virus Database: 4565/12167 - Release Date: 05/05/16 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All the non conformist, including Methodist, records for before 1837 in England and Wales that had survived were filmed and can be seen on many pay per view sites - maybe there is a free site as well? They were also included on the IGI (now Family Search). Post 1837 records are usually to be found in County Record Offices, or libraries, provided that they have survived and been deposited. Lincolnshire has some Methodist Records and you should be able to find out what they have via the Lincs to the Past Website. Most have not been filmed and therefore can only be viewed at Lincoln. We have included the post 1837 marriages that are available in the free on-line Post 1837 Marriage Index. There are some Methodist records, mostly not registers, on the LFHS CD "Nonconformist Records Part 1". The CD includes Dissenters Certificates issued to non-conformists as places of worship had to be licensed by the Quarter Sessions. These certificates are often signed by the congregations wishing to use the place of worship. They cover Baptists, Anabaptists, Independents as well as Methodists. Many of these certificates are not indexed and I have photographed all the ones that I have found whilst going through the Kesteven Quarter Sessions, one of the earliest dated 1761 requesting permission for Independent Protestants to meet in a purpose built meeting house in Billinghay. The certificate even gives the name of the person who purchased the land on which the meeting house was built! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Marchant via Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 5:25 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin note: May theme I haven't been able to find any Methodist records for my ancestors. Fortunately many of them entered their BMDs on Parish Records but I'd like to find Methodist Church records. How do I go about that? Jan Marchant, Australia > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:49:51 -0700 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > From: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Hi, Missing Lincs. > > Susan Reynolds suggested our theme for this month: Faith of Our Fathers > > Susan has found that knowing more about the religion of her ancestors has made it easier for her to navigate the records that were kept. It's likely that our ancestor were more religious than we might be. Once a week they marched off to church to hear a sermon on Christian history and values. Or they attended synagogue or a pagan rite, but there was almost all some "belief system" that was a part of their lives. In most of Britain, the Church (the Christian one) assumed a civil role for over a 1,000 years. The Royals took advantage of that structure the church had in place. When Civil Registration was introduced, the local christian parishes became the Civil Parishes (with some minor exceptions). There were some holdovers from the Viking Era: Wapentakes and Hundreds. > > Even the courts recognized the legitimacy of birthright using the parish baptism registers. > > So there are valuable records that the churches kept. Not only the registers of baptism and marriage and burial, but the churchwarden accounts, church census records (these are rare), confirmation lists and others. Many of the churches were our first schools. > > If you haven't dug through some of those records, you might find some interesting information. I found one of my relatives down in Kent was an adult in a confirmation class. Must have stood out like a sore thumb! I imagine him sitting there with all those 12 to 14 year-olds, trying to focus on what he had to learn. The local Bishop attended their first communion. > > So, tell us what you've found about a Lincolnshire relative in some unexpected church record. And if you need help, this is the place to ask. > > Lou (list admin.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7596 / Virus Database: 4565/12167 - Release Date: 05/05/16 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7596 / Virus Database: 4565/12167 - Release Date: 05/05/16

Hi Susan Thanks for your offer of help. I have several Methodist ancestors in Lincs. and, at present, am not doing any extending of my search. Your advice re contacting the church nearest to them is good and I'll try that when I get back into it more. Thanks again Jan Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 00:11:20 -0500 Subject: Re: May Theme: Methodist Records From: s3js9938@gmail.com To: oziepoms@live.com.au; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Cool! Thanks, Lou! Hi, Jan! The Methodists were/are compulsive record keepers. That must be where The Salvation Army got its even more compulsive roll-keeping. We even go over and clean up those rolls every year at review and revision. But then, the Founder, William Booth came from the Methodist New Connexion. Funny thing, when we were Sally officers I found people on my roll books that were 115 and more years old because no one knew to check the US Social Security Death Index to see if they had been "promoted to Glory." Great genealogy records! I would recommend that you contact the Methodist church nearest where your people lived. If they don't have the records there, they will likely know where they are archived or if they still exist. I would also look at the Non-Conformist records at Family Search and I've found a few at Ancestry. They bring more of them on-line all the time. Who are you looking for? I may be able to help. ​Kind Regards, Susan​

I haven't been able to find any Methodist records for my ancestors. Fortunately many of them entered their BMDs on Parish Records but I'd like to find Methodist Church records. How do I go about that? Jan Marchant, Australia > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:49:51 -0700 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Admin note: May theme > From: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Hi, Missing Lincs. > > Susan Reynolds suggested our theme for this month: Faith of Our Fathers > > Susan has found that knowing more about the religion of her ancestors has made it easier for her to navigate the records that were kept. It's likely that our ancestor were more religious than we might be. Once a week they marched off to church to hear a sermon on Christian history and values. Or they attended synagogue or a pagan rite, but there was almost all some "belief system" that was a part of their lives. In most of Britain, the Church (the Christian one) assumed a civil role for over a 1,000 years. The Royals took advantage of that structure the church had in place. When Civil Registration was introduced, the local christian parishes became the Civil Parishes (with some minor exceptions). There were some holdovers from the Viking Era: Wapentakes and Hundreds. > > Even the courts recognized the legitimacy of birthright using the parish baptism registers. > > So there are valuable records that the churches kept. Not only the registers of baptism and marriage and burial, but the churchwarden accounts, church census records (these are rare), confirmation lists and others. Many of the churches were our first schools. > > If you haven't dug through some of those records, you might find some interesting information. I found one of my relatives down in Kent was an adult in a confirmation class. Must have stood out like a sore thumb! I imagine him sitting there with all those 12 to 14 year-olds, trying to focus on what he had to learn. The local Bishop attended their first communion. > > So, tell us what you've found about a Lincolnshire relative in some unexpected church record. And if you need help, this is the place to ask. > > Lou (list admin.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am minded that John & Elizabeth should be John & Mary, ie the clerk wrote a best guess. Jane (10 Mar 1734 35) to John & Mary John (5 Jun 1736) & William (5 Nov 1737) to John & Elizabeth Richard (19 Aug 1739) to John & Elizabeth Robert (06 Sep 1741) T John & Mary' There is a burial for a Robert 03 Oct 1741 which looks like the above child Robert (21 Oct 1742) to John & Mary John (14 May 1744) To John & Elizabeth Suggest you draw a time line to look at gaps between baptisms & confirm by looking at the Cov St Bart Register on LttP. Incidentally John son of Richard bapt 19 Jan 1706/07 Bernie -----Original Message----- From: Fay Sampson via Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 5:10 PM To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] BRAY Can anyone help me with the children of John BRAY and Mary DARNELL, who married in Covenham St Bartholomew in 1734? The IGI gives them five children baptised in Covenham St Bartholomew between 1735 and 1742: Jane, John, William, Robert and Robert. The Lincolnshirewolds website has three: Jane, Robert and Robert. The dates are fairly close but not identical. No place of baptism is given for the first two, but the younger Robert is said to be christened in Beelsby on 17 Oct 1742. There was certainly an adult Robert BRAY in Beelsby following this. Can anyone verify whether he was christened there? Was this a second BRAY family using similar names? I am in the process of putting my family history narratives on my website. The BRAYS should be up any day now. Fay Sampson Priestley www.faysampson.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

could your John BRAY be the one b. Keddington 1706. Keddington is only about 6 miles from Covenham St Bartholomew. Parents Richard and Susan(nah). I have been searching for the parents of ROBERT BRAY of Beelsby for years with no success. Various people have suggested that John married a Mary BEAUMONT of Huddersfield on Nov. 12 1740 in St Peters Huddersfield. Certainly there was a lot of connections with Yorkshire within the Bray family. Barbara (daughter of Barbara Bray of Burton Stather)

Hell, Fay! These records are all at Covenham St Barholomew: I found William bap 1737 and Richard bap 1739 at to John and Elizabeth BRAY Then I found Robert Bap Sep 1741, buried Oct 1741 son of John and Mary BRAY On the same page and Anne Bray is also buried in 1741 The second Robert bap Oct 1742 George bap May 1744 There is a gap on Find My Past between 1733 and 1736. I can't tell if the years are just not there or if they got missed in scanning. I found no Robert in Beelsby. And I did not find a marriage for John to either wife, nor did I find a son John or daughter Jane. Kind Regards, Susan I did not find a Robert in Beelsby On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Fay Sampson via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Can anyone help me with the children of John BRAY and Mary DARNELL, who > married in Covenham St Bartholomew in 1734? > > The IGI gives them five children baptised in Covenham St Bartholomew > between 1735 and 1742: Jane, John, William, Robert and Robert. > > The Lincolnshirewolds website has three: Jane, Robert and Robert. The > dates are fairly close but not identical. No place of baptism is given for > the first two, but the younger Robert is said to be christened in Beelsby > on 17 Oct 1742. > > There was certainly an adult Robert BRAY in Beelsby following this. Can > anyone verify whether he was christened there? Was this a second BRAY > family using similar names? > > I am in the process of putting my family history narratives on my website. > The BRAYS should be up any day now. > > Fay Sampson Priestley > > > > > www.faysampson.co.uk > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cool! Thanks, Lou! Hi, Jan! The Methodists were/are compulsive record keepers. That must be where The Salvation Army got its even more compulsive roll-keeping. We even go over and clean up those rolls every year at review and revision. But then, the Founder, William Booth came from the Methodist New Connexion. Funny thing, when we were Sally officers I found people on my roll books that were 115 and more years old because no one knew to check the US Social Security Death Index to see if they had been "promoted to Glory." Great genealogy records! I would recommend that you contact the Methodist church nearest where your people lived. If they don't have the records there, they will likely know where they are archived or if they still exist. I would also look at the Non-Conformist records at Family Search and I've found a few at Ancestry. They bring more of them on-line all the time. Who are you looking for? I may be able to help. ​Kind Regards, Susan​

Hi Fay The Covenham St Bartholmew registers for the period are on the Lincs to the Past website, and though a challenge to read, it is possible to do so, so you could confirm that the baptisms are there. I also looked for the Beelsby records, but there don't seem to be any baptisms in the records for 1742- again difficult to read, so you could check, in case I missed them. If you go to http://www.lincstothepast.com/home/, and then put the name of the parish + par (Beelsby par) in the search box. Then click through until you reach Registers, and then the correct option amongst them. Good luck with the website. Margaret On 04/05/2016 17:10, Fay Sampson via wrote: > Can anyone help me with the children of John BRAY and Mary DARNELL, who married in Covenham St Bartholomew in 1734? > > The IGI gives them five children baptised in Covenham St Bartholomew between 1735 and 1742: Jane, John, William, Robert and Robert. > > The Lincolnshirewolds website has three: Jane, Robert and Robert. The dates are fairly close but not identical. No place of baptism is given for the first two, but the younger Robert is said to be christened in Beelsby on 17 Oct 1742. > > There was certainly an adult Robert BRAY in Beelsby following this. Can anyone verify whether he was christened there? Was this a second BRAY family using similar names? > > I am in the process of putting my family history narratives on my website. The BRAYS should be up any day now. > > Fay Sampson Priestley > > > > > www.faysampson.co.uk > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me with the children of John BRAY and Mary DARNELL, who married in Covenham St Bartholomew in 1734? The IGI gives them five children baptised in Covenham St Bartholomew between 1735 and 1742: Jane, John, William, Robert and Robert. The Lincolnshirewolds website has three: Jane, Robert and Robert. The dates are fairly close but not identical. No place of baptism is given for the first two, but the younger Robert is said to be christened in Beelsby on 17 Oct 1742. There was certainly an adult Robert BRAY in Beelsby following this. Can anyone verify whether he was christened there? Was this a second BRAY family using similar names? I am in the process of putting my family history narratives on my website. The BRAYS should be up any day now. Fay Sampson Priestley www.faysampson.co.uk

Hi, Missing Lincs. Susan Reynolds suggested our theme for this month: Faith of Our Fathers Susan has found that knowing more about the religion of her ancestors has made it easier for her to navigate the records that were kept. It's likely that our ancestor were more religious than we might be. Once a week they marched off to church to hear a sermon on Christian history and values. Or they attended synagogue or a pagan rite, but there was almost all some "belief system" that was a part of their lives. In most of Britain, the Church (the Christian one) assumed a civil role for over a 1,000 years. The Royals took advantage of that structure the church had in place. When Civil Registration was introduced, the local christian parishes became the Civil Parishes (with some minor exceptions). There were some holdovers from the Viking Era: Wapentakes and Hundreds. Even the courts recognized the legitimacy of birthright using the parish baptism registers. So there are valuable records that the churches kept. Not only the registers of baptism and marriage and burial, but the churchwarden accounts, church census records (these are rare), confirmation lists and others. Many of the churches were our first schools. If you haven't dug through some of those records, you might find some interesting information. I found one of my relatives down in Kent was an adult in a confirmation class. Must have stood out like a sore thumb! I imagine him sitting there with all those 12 to 14 year-olds, trying to focus on what he had to learn. The local Bishop attended their first communion. So, tell us what you've found about a Lincolnshire relative in some unexpected church record. And if you need help, this is the place to ask. Lou (list admin.)

Hi Listers Just wanted to comment on these Lincolnshire Veaseys as it is another spelling of my surname. In researching the female side of my heritage (PLOWRIGHT & HOOTON) in Lincs. I've frequently come across this group. To date I can find no connection to my family who were originally the Essex/Suffolk Hintlesham VESEYs. However, my HOOTONs were living in Deeping Fen. (1841 Census). I think originally they came from Lincoln but I haven't been able to push back that far yet to prove it. I have found Edward HOOTON m. 13 May 1754 Elizabeth WOODS at Deeping St. James, Lincolnshire, England. I have not found their baptisms. All help or suggestions gratefully received. Linda B.C. Canada Hi Jill, Unfortunately your WELLS do not seem to connect to mine. My WELLS are originally from Tattershall - I have them back to Richard Wells bp. 1584. I was actually looking at VEASEY's in Deeping Fen. The VEASEY family ended up in Horncastle and one of them married into my WELLS family. Regards, Terry Wells

Hi Jill, Unfortunately your WELLS do not seem to connect to mine. My WELLS are originally from Tattershall - I have them back to Richard Wells bp. 1584. I was actually looking at VEASEY's in Deeping Fen. The VEASEY family ended up in Horncastle and one of them married into my WELLS family. FOR JILL ONLY - NOT LIST: I am attaching a print from my database of people I have with Donington and Deeping Fen facts. All these have WELLS connections via offspring or sibling marriages etc. Let me know if you recognize any of them. Regards, Terry Wells -----Original Message----- From: Jill Penrose [mailto:jill.penrose@paradise.net.nz] Sent: 02 May 2016 02:36 To: 'Terry Wells'; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [LIN] Deeping Fen Hello Terry I could not resist emailing you. Deeping Fen - Terry Wells - Wells family. Are we related? My ancestors are:- John Wells B 1784 Donington & Hannah 1791 Donington Hannah Wells 1815 Kirton M John Roberts B 1818 Frampton Other Wells family names Mary Wadsley Wells, Edward Haw Wells, various other Wells. Around Spalding / Deeping Fen / Later Deeping St Nicholas.. Then we go down to Roberts and then Peakes. Regards from Jill in New Zealand.

Hi Terry ands Jill, sorry to but in but quite a lot of my relatives also came from the Deepings, my family being the WILSON family from about 1810 - onward really, they came from Langtoft to Deeping St. Nicholas amongst others parts of the deepings. Bazza On 2 May 2016 at 02:36, Jill Penrose via <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello Terry > I could not resist emailing you. Deeping Fen - Terry Wells - Wells family. > Are we related? > My ancestors are:- > John Wells B 1784 Donington & Hannah 1791 Donington > Hannah Wells 1815 Kirton M John Roberts B 1818 Frampton > Other Wells family names Mary Wadsley Wells, Edward Haw Wells, various > other > Wells. Around Spalding / Deeping Fen / Later Deeping St Nicholas.. > Then we go down to Roberts and then Peakes. > Regards from > Jill in New Zealand. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Terry I could not resist emailing you. Deeping Fen - Terry Wells - Wells family. Are we related? My ancestors are:- John Wells B 1784 Donington & Hannah 1791 Donington Hannah Wells 1815 Kirton M John Roberts B 1818 Frampton Other Wells family names Mary Wadsley Wells, Edward Haw Wells, various other Wells. Around Spalding / Deeping Fen / Later Deeping St Nicholas.. Then we go down to Roberts and then Peakes. Regards from Jill in New Zealand.