Hi Bazza Do you not have a name and details for your man? Most regiments had horses at the start of the war and many would have their own men to look after them There were more specialised units such as the Veterinary Corps Theres a good piece on Horses used in the first war here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_World_War_I If you have name and details I can look further for you It should be noted that approx two thirds of WW1 service records were lost in WW2, so chances are they may not have survived but he should have a medal card at least Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Sorry if this is a bit of line, but does anyone know about the volunteers that went over to France from Lincolnshire in WW1 to look after the horses what regiment were they a part of, and is there any recordof the men who went, PLease. Bazza
Sorry if this is a bit of line, but does anyone know about the volunteers that went over to France from Lincolnshire in WW1 to look after the horses what regiment were they a part of, and is there any recordof the men who went, PLease. Bazza ________________________________ From: Beverley Hill <hilltock@btinternet.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 14:12 Subject: Re: [LIN] Redhead (Sherwood Foresters) The 10th Battalion went to France in July 1915 and moved almost immediately into the notorious bloody Ypres Salient. In 1916, it took part in the first ten days of continuous fighting on the Somme, returning for a second time into the grim battle in August and yet a third time in October/November. In 1917 the Battalion fought magnificently throughout the 2nd Battle of Ypres suffering further heavy casualties and like the 9th Battalion continued in the forefront of battle throughout 1918 to the end. Looks like he was probably injured at Ypres. http://www.nottsandderby.co.uk/Notts___Derby/notts___derby.html Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 02 December 2011 10:39 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Redhead (Sherwood Foresters) OK at least any Ancestry researcher will find the prompt to the right name in Soldiers died (they might well also find this thread as its archived) Although the war diaries are highly unlikely to name your man it may tell you where they were on the days he may have been injured on (presumably a few days at least before the 6th Jun 1917) One further ploy you might try, search Ancestrys service records for service numbers close to your mans and who served in the same regiment, if any survive it may give a better idea of what they were doing and so also your mans experience Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >>Yes Nivard, that is my man buried in Hemswell, with his parents my greats >>The War Diaries sound interesting, I may look into them. > As you and others have said looks like his full records are lost. He > died in a hospital in Leicester after having his thigh amputation, no > 51949 Private B Company 10th Notts and Derby Regiment is on his death > certificate, 23yrs, looks like 5th Northern General Hospital. Just > would have liked to find out where he was wounded and how. > Thanks for everyones help. > Chris > >>Name: REDHEAD, ERNEST >>Initials: E >>Nationality: United Kingdom >>Rank: Private >>Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) >>Unit Text: 10th Bn. >>Age: 23 >>Date of Death: 05/06/1917 >>Service No: 51949 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>Yes Nivard, that is my man buried in Hemswell, with his parents my greats >The War Diaries sound interesting, I may look into them. As you and others have said looks like his full records are lost. He died in a hospital in Leicester after having his thigh amputation, no 51949 Private B Company 10th Notts and Derby Regiment is on his death certificate, 23yrs, looks like 5th Northern General Hospital. Just would have liked to find out where he was wounded and how. Thanks for everyones help. Chris >Name: REDHEAD, ERNEST >Initials: E >Nationality: United Kingdom >Rank: Private >Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) >Unit Text: 10th Bn. >Age: 23 >Date of Death: 05/06/1917 >Service No: 51949 >Additional information: Son of Henry and Eliza Redhead, of >Glenthworth, Lincoln. Born at Hemswell. >Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead >Cemetery: HEMSWELL (ALL SAINTS) CHURCHYARD > > >Further to my last post re War Diaries for the 10th Btn Sherwood Foresters >On the National Archives, downloadable for a 3.50 fee (several hundred pages) >17 DIVISION, 51 INFANTRY BRIGADE: 7 Battalion Border Regiment 1915 >July - 1919 Mar./ 10 Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire >and Derbyshire Regiment) 1915 July - 1919 Mar./ Brigade Machine Gun >Company 1916 Feb. - 1918 Feb./ Brigade Trench Mortar Battery 1915 >Nov. - 1916 Jan. >Date 1914-1922 >Catalogue reference WO 95/2008links to the Catalogue
My granddad served in India before World War One started. He was in the Royal Field Artillery and worked with teams of horses pulling the caissons and the ammunition wagons. He loved working with the horses so much that he functioned more as a groom than an artilleryman, to hear him tell it. He was offered a job by an Indian official to serve as a groom once his service ended, but grandma wouldn't leave England, so he turned the job down. He came home to England, but reinlisted for World War I. They shipped him off to France, of course. He told us that the horses were better than trucks in the muddy conditions, but he saw a number of horses that were hurt or injured just by the heavy equipment involved. He was invalided out of the service after a horse kicked him in the groin and damaged one of his testicles. Lou
The 10th Battalion went to France in July 1915 and moved almost immediately into the notorious bloody Ypres Salient. In 1916, it took part in the first ten days of continuous fighting on the Somme, returning for a second time into the grim battle in August and yet a third time in October/November. In 1917 the Battalion fought magnificently throughout the 2nd Battle of Ypres suffering further heavy casualties and like the 9th Battalion continued in the forefront of battle throughout 1918 to the end. Looks like he was probably injured at Ypres. http://www.nottsandderby.co.uk/Notts___Derby/notts___derby.html Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 02 December 2011 10:39 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Redhead (Sherwood Foresters) OK at least any Ancestry researcher will find the prompt to the right name in Soldiers died (they might well also find this thread as its archived) Although the war diaries are highly unlikely to name your man it may tell you where they were on the days he may have been injured on (presumably a few days at least before the 6th Jun 1917) One further ploy you might try, search Ancestrys service records for service numbers close to your mans and who served in the same regiment, if any survive it may give a better idea of what they were doing and so also your mans experience Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >>Yes Nivard, that is my man buried in Hemswell, with his parents my greats >>The War Diaries sound interesting, I may look into them. > As you and others have said looks like his full records are lost. He > died in a hospital in Leicester after having his thigh amputation, no > 51949 Private B Company 10th Notts and Derby Regiment is on his death > certificate, 23yrs, looks like 5th Northern General Hospital. Just > would have liked to find out where he was wounded and how. > Thanks for everyones help. > Chris > >>Name: REDHEAD, ERNEST >>Initials: E >>Nationality: United Kingdom >>Rank: Private >>Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) >>Unit Text: 10th Bn. >>Age: 23 >>Date of Death: 05/06/1917 >>Service No: 51949 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
OK at least any Ancestry researcher will find the prompt to the right name in Soldiers died (they might well also find this thread as its archived) Although the war diaries are highly unlikely to name your man it may tell you where they were on the days he may have been injured on (presumably a few days at least before the 6th Jun 1917) One further ploy you might try, search Ancestrys service records for service numbers close to your mans and who served in the same regiment, if any survive it may give a better idea of what they were doing and so also your mans experience Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >>Yes Nivard, that is my man buried in Hemswell, with his parents my greats >>The War Diaries sound interesting, I may look into them. > As you and others have said looks like his full records are lost. He > died in a hospital in Leicester after having his thigh amputation, no > 51949 Private B Company 10th Notts and Derby Regiment is on his death > certificate, 23yrs, looks like 5th Northern General Hospital. Just > would have liked to find out where he was wounded and how. > Thanks for everyones help. > Chris > >>Name: REDHEAD, ERNEST >>Initials: E >>Nationality: United Kingdom >>Rank: Private >>Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) >>Unit Text: 10th Bn. >>Age: 23 >>Date of Death: 05/06/1917 >>Service No: 51949
Hi Pat I am wondering if the Sarah Smith you site below is Sarah Robinson who married my Isaac Smith? Isaac was b. 22 Jul 1790 They raised their family at Deeping St. James. Linda B.C Canada We have to go to Spalding tomorrow and will call at Cowbit church in the hope that there are headstones for William and Ann Smith. I see from Lincs to the Past website, that there is a William Smith (66 yrs) from Cowbit, buried 23 July 1853. Although I only did a quick search, I didn't see a burial for Ann. William's burial is on page 37 of the site. There is though, a Sarah Smith (59 yrs) from Deeping Fen, Cowbit, buried 22 March 1851 - page 35. Please let me know if you have already received a photograph Jill. Regards - Pat ________________________________ From: Jill Penrose <jill.penrose@paradise.net.nz> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011, 1:52 Subject: [LIN] Cowbit Church - Smith tombstones I have been told that the gravestone of my ancestors William and Ann Smith is at the front of Cowbit church just over the wall at the front of the church. They died 1853 & 1851 Would someone be so kind and photograph this and email it to me. Thankyou Jill in New Zealand ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Jill We have to go to Spalding tomorrow and will call at Cowbit church in the hope that there are headstones for William and Ann Smith. I see from Lincs to the Past website, that there is a William Smith (66 yrs) from Cowbit, buried 23 July 1853. Although I only did a quick search, I didn't see a burial for Ann. William's burial is on page 37 of the site. There is though, a Sarah Smith (59 yrs) from Deeping Fen, Cowbit, buried 22 March 1851 - page 35. Please let me know if you have already received a photograph Jill. Regards - Pat ________________________________ From: Jill Penrose <jill.penrose@paradise.net.nz> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011, 1:52 Subject: [LIN] Cowbit Church - Smith tombstones I have been told that the gravestone of my ancestors William and Ann Smith is at the front of Cowbit church just over the wall at the front of the church. They died 1853 & 1851 Would someone be so kind and photograph this and email it to me. Thankyou Jill in New Zealand ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Further to my last post re War Diaries for the 10th Btn Sherwood Foresters On the National Archives, downloadable for a 3.50 fee (several hundred pages) 17 DIVISION, 51 INFANTRY BRIGADE: 7 Battalion Border Regiment 1915 July - 1919 Mar./ 10 Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment) 1915 July - 1919 Mar./ Brigade Machine Gun Company 1916 Feb. - 1918 Feb./ Brigade Trench Mortar Battery 1915 Nov. - 1916 Jan. Date 1914-1922 Catalogue reference WO 95/2008links to the Catalogue Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Chrissie > > Firstly are you absolutely sure he is your man? > > Does your known information tally with the CWGC entry ? > > Name: REDHEAD, ERNEST > Initials: E > Nationality: United Kingdom > Rank: Private > Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)
Hi Chrissie Firstly are you absolutely sure he is your man? Does your known information tally with the CWGC entry ? Name: REDHEAD, ERNEST Initials: E Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) Unit Text: 10th Bn. Age: 23 Date of Death: 05/06/1917 Service No: 51949 Additional information: Son of Henry and Eliza Redhead, of Glenthworth, Lincoln. Born at Hemswell. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Cemetery: HEMSWELL (ALL SAINTS) CHURCHYARD If this is definitely your man I have searched the surviving service records and do not see a record for him Approx two thirds of the WW1 service records were destroyed in WW2 so chances are more likely you won't find a record than you will for most servicemen The entry you quoted if from Soldiers died in the Great War which was compiled from various sorces and has quite a few errors in it You cannot change the entry, it was published long ago and someone along the line made an error with the entry, on findmypast there is a facility to send errors for correction but they will not change it as that is what is recorded On Ancestry you can enter a correction or variation yourself, I have taken the liberty of doing so for you so at least it should prompt the future researcher to look further (that will become available in the searchable index in a couple of weeks) Do let me know if you have not proved its the right man so I can alter the correction I made on Ancestry I take it you are aware his medal card is on Ancestry ? You could also check the war diary for the unit, some are available to download for a small fee from the National Archives While War diaries rarely mention individual men, they do give an idea of where the unit was at the time and what battles they were involved in Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Can anyone point me in the right direction. > > Is it possible to have a name changed for this only record I can find > of my great uncle Ernest REDHEAD. > Of all the army records that are around, I can't find anything > more. This is my great uncle, my grandfather's brother. In 1914 on a > Christmas card he signed as READHEAD as my grandfather also took. > Redhead and red hair, so my line had the E put in. There is a grave > for Ernest in Hemswell which I have seen and I would love his full > records if they were available but you just don't find anything under > Redhead. Where would I need to write to, to see if Ernest records are > available and have the name on findmypast and other sites changed. > > Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919- soldier details > Name: E. REDHILL > []
Hi chris hope your well been a long time best wishes june wilson On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Chrissie <acdods@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Can anyone point me in the right direction. > > Is it possible to have a name changed for this only record I can find > of my great uncle Ernest REDHEAD. > Of all the army records that are around, I can't find anything > more. This is my great uncle, my grandfather's brother. In 1914 on a > Christmas card he signed as READHEAD as my grandfather also took. > Redhead and red hair, so my line had the E put in. There is a grave > for Ernest in Hemswell which I have seen and I would love his full > records if they were available but you just don't find anything under > Redhead. Where would I need to write to, to see if Ernest records are > available and have the name on findmypast and other sites changed. > > Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919- soldier details > Name: E. REDHILL > [] > > Rank: PRIVATE > Initials: E > Birthplace: Hemswell, Lincs > Residence: Lincoln > Enlisted: Gainsborough, Lincs > Regiment, Corps etc.: Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and > Derbyshire Regiment) > Battalion etc.: 10th Battalion. > Formed at Derby 13.9.14-K2-to 51st Bde. 17th Div. at Wool. Oct. 1914 > West Lulworth. Dec. Wool. Mar. 1915 West Lulworth. June 1915 to > Winchester. 14.7.15 landed in France. 11.11.18 51st Bde. 17th Div. > France; near Aulnoye. > Number: 51949 > Date died: 5 June 1917 > How died: Died of wounds > Theatre of war: Home > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Can anyone point me in the right direction. Is it possible to have a name changed for this only record I can find of my great uncle Ernest REDHEAD. Of all the army records that are around, I can't find anything more. This is my great uncle, my grandfather's brother. In 1914 on a Christmas card he signed as READHEAD as my grandfather also took. Redhead and red hair, so my line had the E put in. There is a grave for Ernest in Hemswell which I have seen and I would love his full records if they were available but you just don't find anything under Redhead. Where would I need to write to, to see if Ernest records are available and have the name on findmypast and other sites changed. Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919- soldier details Name: E. REDHILL [] Rank: PRIVATE Initials: E Birthplace: Hemswell, Lincs Residence: Lincoln Enlisted: Gainsborough, Lincs Regiment, Corps etc.: Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment) Battalion etc.: 10th Battalion. Formed at Derby 13.9.14-K2-to 51st Bde. 17th Div. at Wool. Oct. 1914 West Lulworth. Dec. Wool. Mar. 1915 West Lulworth. June 1915 to Winchester. 14.7.15 landed in France. 11.11.18 51st Bde. 17th Div. France; near Aulnoye. Number: 51949 Date died: 5 June 1917 How died: Died of wounds Theatre of war: Home
Chrissie wrote: > Can anyone point me in the right direction. > > Is it possible to have a name changed for this only record I can find > of my great uncle Ernest REDHEAD. > Of all the army records that are around, I can't find anything > more. This is my great uncle, my grandfather's brother. In 1914 on a > Christmas card he signed as READHEAD as my grandfather also took. Chrissie, I see that there is a READHEAD listed on the CWGC site... READHEAD, Ernest; Private; Service Number 25281; Died 18/10/1916; Unknown age; Norfolk Regt. See further details at: http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1550480 Could this be your great uncle? > Redhead and red hair, so my line had the E put in. There is a grave > for Ernest in Hemswell which I have seen and I would love his full > records if they were available but you just don't find anything under > Redhead. I presume you are looking for WW1 soldier's records at the National Archives in England. Have you tried searching for READHEAD at the National Archives? Bear in mind the fact that a large number of WW1 records were lost in the Blitz, in WW2. In some cases burnt records may survive, in other cases they were lost. (I cannot find my father's WW1 records. I now suspect they are amongst those lost, burnt records.) Perhaps others, more knowledgable than I will be of greater assistance. Denny (Perth, Ontario.)
OK, on this month's To-Do list, add "buy calendars", right after "Home liposuction kit" and "Defibrillator". So, what are you buying your computer for this holiday season? I find that new computers and related gear are usually a bargain the last five days of December. How about an external disk for backup? December's theme: We've done this before. Which of your ancestors would you invite to a holiday dinner and what questions would you ask them? Lou (list admin.)
Very sorry Linda No William Smith born 1824 and no Isaac Smiths in my family. Pity. Regards from Jill
I have been told that the gravestone of my ancestors William and Ann Smith is at the front of Cowbit church just over the wall at the front of the church. They died 1853 & 1851 Would someone be so kind and photograph this and email it to me. Thankyou Jill in New Zealand
Let's take this thread off list, please. There is a mialing list for genealogy software. Thank you. Lou
Hello Jill. I will be in the Cowbit area just after christmas so if no one comes back to you, give me a reminder around that time and i'll drop in at the church. Mick Lincolnshire FreeReg co-ordinator. http://www.freereg.org.uk/
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