Looking for the parents of George Marion Bellamy b: 1818, 1819, 1825, 1828?  Lincolnshire he married Matilda Gore abt 1848. They had a son named George b: 14 Feb 1849. Any information on the elusive parents would be greatly appreciated.

Nivard, Thanks for the info. I spotted another member's reference to the BL web site and as it seems to need a subscription I'm hoping that if that member has a sub he might be able to do a more complete look up. If any other lister has a sub & is willing to help then let me know. Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 6:59 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lucy HOLMES - mid 1890's court report in Spaldingnewspaper Hi Peter The new BL newspapers site may help They have Lincolnshire Chronicle (1838-1903) http://www1.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

G'day from Western Australia, I know about Lucy before an incident in the mid 1890's probably in Pinchbeck (West) or close by and then what happened after a conviction and imprisonment but I'd like to discover either the court report/register or if there was a pres article. Any ideas how I can discover this? Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch).

Start here for the UK as a whole. http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/bldept/news/newsplan/newsplan.html For Lincolnshire, scroll down and click East Midlands. Click search the list. For North Owersby and Usselby (for where the nearest large town seems - just! - to be Market Rasen), in the 'town/county' type Market Rasen. Check the dates - it's no good clicking on the Standard as that didn't begin publishing until 1983. <g> Click on a title, and you then get a list of the libraries which hold copies of that paper, the years held, and the format in which they're held (original or film). I suspect that other counties' libraries links are more efficient than Lincolnshire's which at the moment consist of giving you details of every mobile library in the county - I can't even get the details for Lincoln Central Library unless I type the name into the search box, which is a stupid state of affairs. Market Rasen library http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/OrganisationDetails.aspx?orgcode=319407 Lincoln Central Library http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/OrganisationDetails.aspx?orgcode=319374 I would email Market Rasen library just to confirm that events in those villages were more likely to be reported in the Market Rasen newspaper than one published in Caister. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 05/12/2011 01:35, Diana Robinson wrote: > Can anyone please tell me what newspaper would have been most likely to > carry news about North Owersby during the period 1835 - 1901 and Usselby > after that? > > Happy hunting! > > Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) > Now in Rochester, NY, USA > > > ------------------------------- >

Hi Peter The new BL newspapers site may help They have Lincolnshire Chronicle (1838-1903) http://www1.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ It is pay per view or subscription but the search is free Have you also tried the 19th Century Newspapers database ? You will have access for free via your National Library of Australia as an Australian resident Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > G'day from Western Australia, > > I know about Lucy before an incident in the mid 1890's probably in Pinchbeck > (West) or close by and then what happened after a conviction and > imprisonment but I'd like to discover either the court report/register or > if there was a pres article. > > Any ideas how I can discover this? > > Peter Holmes

Hi John There is a research guide on the National Archives which may help <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/army-auxiliary-1769-1945.htm> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi there > > would anyone know whether records exist in respect to membership of the > home gaurd and if so where they might be found > > many thanks > > John Cook

Hi there would anyone know whether records exist in respect to membership of the home gaurd and if so where they might be found many thanks John Cook

Can anyone please tell me what newspaper would have been most likely to carry news about North Owersby during the period 1835 - 1901 and Usselby after that? Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA

Ah, I spoke too soon. There was indeed a transportation register in 1834 for William Alcock convicted at Holland at ancestry if you are interested. Susan

There is a ship's manifest for a William Alcock convicted in Norfolk to Tasmania in 1841 on Ancestry. It has an interesting note that looks like he mighthave returned to England in 1846 as a third class passenger. Do you have access to those John? He might have been convicted and sent out twice or it might be two different men, might not be your at all, but sure worth a shot in the dark! Susan On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Joan Van Daalen <jvandaal@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Might he have been left something in a will?   Joan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Bland" <johnbland@parkavenue36.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:17 PM > Subject: [LIN] Its official my 3x Great Grandfather is missing! > > >> Hello Listers, >> >> >> >> Now that British Newspaper Archive has gone live >> http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ , I have made are start on >> looking >> for snippets that appeared in the newspapers relating to members of my >> tree. >> >> >> >> I found this one in the Stamford Mercury relating to my 3x Great >> Grandfather >> John ALLCOCK who was born in Parson Drove in 1790 but last seen on the >> 1851 >> census in Whaplode Drove >> >> >> >> Friday 1 April 1870 (page 6 col 4) >> >> >> >> Any person who can give information as to the Residence and Address of >> John >> Allcock formerly of Whaplode Drove, in the county of Lincoln, Labourer (if >> living) or of his real Representative (if deceased), are requested to >> forward such information immediately to the undersigned. All reasonable >> expenses incurred will be paid. >> >> >> >> EDWARD COPEMAN, Solicitor, Holbeach. >> >> >> >> So if no one knew where he disappeared to 140 years ago, I suspect I am >> going to have even less of a chance of finding him now! >> >> >> >> The 1841 census shows John to be living in Whaplode Drove apparently >> estranged from his wife Hannah who was living at Parson Drove. In John's >> household were Susan Woodvine 40, an unmarried female and an apparent son >> James Allcock aged 6. Neither Susan or James were born in Lincolnshire >> leaving a possible conclusion that they were born in Parson Drove, >> Cambridgeshire. This apparent relationship may explain why John's wife was >> shown as an Ag Lab and Annuitant on the 1851 census, and why Hannah is >> buried at Parson Drove, with no mention of John on the Gravestone. I can >> find no trace of John after 1851. >> >> >> >> Any thoughts on why a Solicitor was looking for him? His wife Hannah died >> in >> 1861, so it has nothing to do with supporting her. As this was before the >> Married Woman's Property Act of 1872 her money would be his. If she had >> died >> whilst he was still alive what would the position have been in regards to >> any assets in her possession at the time she died? Would they become his >> by >> default even if no one knew where he had gone? >> >> >> >> The only other reason I can think of that a Solicitor would put a notice >> in >> a paper would be for unpaid debts, but offering to pay expenses seems >> generous if chasing a bad debt. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any information on Edward Copeman - I might respond to >> which ever firm took on his business. >> >> >> >> John R G Bland >> >> >> >> Spalding >> >> >> >> Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society >> www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ >> >> Reg. Charity No 1000724 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Mick for offering to take photos of my SMITHs at Cowbit churchyard. A member of Lincs Family History Society has taken a photo for me. Unfortunately I cannot read the bottom part as it is covered with lichen but the main part is in good condition. If you happen to walk around the churchyard after Christmas and can decipher it for me I would appreciate it otherwise will be happy with what I have about the gravestone of my 3 X great grandparents. Regards from Jill Penrose in New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mick Claxton" <mick.claxton@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] Cowbit Church - Smith tombstones > Hello Jill. > I will be in the Cowbit area just after christmas so if no one comes back > to > you, give me a reminder around that time and i'll drop in at the church. > Mick > > Lincolnshire FreeReg co-ordinator. http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4646 - Release Date: 11/29/11 >

Might he have been left something in a will? Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bland" <johnbland@parkavenue36.freeserve.co.uk> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:17 PM Subject: [LIN] Its official my 3x Great Grandfather is missing! > Hello Listers, > > > > Now that British Newspaper Archive has gone live > http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ , I have made are start on > looking > for snippets that appeared in the newspapers relating to members of my > tree. > > > > I found this one in the Stamford Mercury relating to my 3x Great > Grandfather > John ALLCOCK who was born in Parson Drove in 1790 but last seen on the > 1851 > census in Whaplode Drove > > > > Friday 1 April 1870 (page 6 col 4) > > > > Any person who can give information as to the Residence and Address of > John > Allcock formerly of Whaplode Drove, in the county of Lincoln, Labourer (if > living) or of his real Representative (if deceased), are requested to > forward such information immediately to the undersigned. All reasonable > expenses incurred will be paid. > > > > EDWARD COPEMAN, Solicitor, Holbeach. > > > > So if no one knew where he disappeared to 140 years ago, I suspect I am > going to have even less of a chance of finding him now! > > > > The 1841 census shows John to be living in Whaplode Drove apparently > estranged from his wife Hannah who was living at Parson Drove. In John's > household were Susan Woodvine 40, an unmarried female and an apparent son > James Allcock aged 6. Neither Susan or James were born in Lincolnshire > leaving a possible conclusion that they were born in Parson Drove, > Cambridgeshire. This apparent relationship may explain why John's wife was > shown as an Ag Lab and Annuitant on the 1851 census, and why Hannah is > buried at Parson Drove, with no mention of John on the Gravestone. I can > find no trace of John after 1851. > > > > Any thoughts on why a Solicitor was looking for him? His wife Hannah died > in > 1861, so it has nothing to do with supporting her. As this was before the > Married Woman's Property Act of 1872 her money would be his. If she had > died > whilst he was still alive what would the position have been in regards to > any assets in her possession at the time she died? Would they become his > by > default even if no one knew where he had gone? > > > > The only other reason I can think of that a Solicitor would put a notice > in > a paper would be for unpaid debts, but offering to pay expenses seems > generous if chasing a bad debt. > > > > Does anyone have any information on Edward Copeman - I might respond to > which ever firm took on his business. > > > > John R G Bland > > > > Spalding > > > > Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society > www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ > > Reg. Charity No 1000724 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers, Now that British Newspaper Archive has gone live http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ , I have made are start on looking for snippets that appeared in the newspapers relating to members of my tree. I found this one in the Stamford Mercury relating to my 3x Great Grandfather John ALLCOCK who was born in Parson Drove in 1790 but last seen on the 1851 census in Whaplode Drove Friday 1 April 1870 (page 6 col 4) Any person who can give information as to the Residence and Address of John Allcock formerly of Whaplode Drove, in the county of Lincoln, Labourer (if living) or of his real Representative (if deceased), are requested to forward such information immediately to the undersigned. All reasonable expenses incurred will be paid. EDWARD COPEMAN, Solicitor, Holbeach. So if no one knew where he disappeared to 140 years ago, I suspect I am going to have even less of a chance of finding him now! The 1841 census shows John to be living in Whaplode Drove apparently estranged from his wife Hannah who was living at Parson Drove. In John's household were Susan Woodvine 40, an unmarried female and an apparent son James Allcock aged 6. Neither Susan or James were born in Lincolnshire leaving a possible conclusion that they were born in Parson Drove, Cambridgeshire. This apparent relationship may explain why John's wife was shown as an Ag Lab and Annuitant on the 1851 census, and why Hannah is buried at Parson Drove, with no mention of John on the Gravestone. I can find no trace of John after 1851. Any thoughts on why a Solicitor was looking for him? His wife Hannah died in 1861, so it has nothing to do with supporting her. As this was before the Married Woman's Property Act of 1872 her money would be his. If she had died whilst he was still alive what would the position have been in regards to any assets in her possession at the time she died? Would they become his by default even if no one knew where he had gone? The only other reason I can think of that a Solicitor would put a notice in a paper would be for unpaid debts, but offering to pay expenses seems generous if chasing a bad debt. Does anyone have any information on Edward Copeman - I might respond to which ever firm took on his business. John R G Bland Spalding Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ Reg. Charity No 1000724

Don't find him transported or convicted under his own name, but thought this might interest you if you don't already know about it. Convicts Details William ALCOCK Alias: n/a Of: Whaplode Occupation: Labourer Age: 22 Crime: Stealing a pint of brandy and a pint of rum from the 'Star' public house, the property of Alexander Ironside Place of Crime: Whaplode Court: Holland Quarter Sessions Trial Date: 03/07/1834 Sentence: 14 Years Ship: George the Third Destination: Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land) Transportation Date: 1835 Sources Used: Trial Documents including witness statements Other Remarks: Crime committed with George Dandison. Alcock had a previous conviction at HQS on 5/7/1832 for stealing an ass Document Ref: HQS A/1/1834/Sp/Mids/22-30,32-35,185,194,210-211 At 05:17 PM 12/3/2011, you wrote: >Hello Listers, > > > >Now that British Newspaper Archive has gone live >http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ , I have made are start on looking >for snippets that appeared in the newspapers relating to members of my tree. > > > >I found this one in the Stamford Mercury relating to my 3x Great Grandfather >John ALLCOCK who was born in Parson Drove in 1790 but last seen on the 1851 >census in Whaplode Drove > > > >Friday 1 April 1870 (page 6 col 4) > > > >Any person who can give information as to the Residence and Address of John >Allcock formerly of Whaplode Drove, in the county of Lincoln, Labourer (if >living) or of his real Representative (if deceased), are requested to >forward such information immediately to the undersigned. All reasonable >expenses incurred will be paid. > > > >EDWARD COPEMAN, Solicitor, Holbeach. > > > >So if no one knew where he disappeared to 140 years ago, I suspect I am >going to have even less of a chance of finding him now! > > > >The 1841 census shows John to be living in Whaplode Drove apparently >estranged from his wife Hannah who was living at Parson Drove. In John's >household were Susan Woodvine 40, an unmarried female and an apparent son >James Allcock aged 6. Neither Susan or James were born in Lincolnshire >leaving a possible conclusion that they were born in Parson Drove, >Cambridgeshire. This apparent relationship may explain why John's wife was >shown as an Ag Lab and Annuitant on the 1851 census, and why Hannah is >buried at Parson Drove, with no mention of John on the Gravestone. I can >find no trace of John after 1851. > > > >Any thoughts on why a Solicitor was looking for him? His wife Hannah died in >1861, so it has nothing to do with supporting her. As this was before the >Married Woman's Property Act of 1872 her money would be his. If she had died >whilst he was still alive what would the position have been in regards to >any assets in her possession at the time she died? Would they become his by >default even if no one knew where he had gone? > > > >The only other reason I can think of that a Solicitor would put a notice in >a paper would be for unpaid debts, but offering to pay expenses seems >generous if chasing a bad debt. > > > >Does anyone have any information on Edward Copeman - I might respond to >which ever firm took on his business. > > > >John R G Bland > > > >Spalding > > > >Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society >www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ > >Reg. Charity No 1000724 > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4655 - Release Date: 12/03/11 -- Lynn Calvin Aurora, IL lcalvin@interaccess.com

I would really like to invite my 4 x Grandfather Elijah Shaw for Christmas Dinner. I have been looking for info about him for about 5 yrs with no luck! His son was born in Market Deeping in 1843 and his wife was Ann Hall. His trade was travelling Potter, but they seem to have settled in Lincolnshire. No sign of Elijah, Ann or Aaron on 1851 or 1861 census. Was he of Irish descent? At least if he came to dinner he could answer my questions! Oh well I will keep trying. Katrina Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Hi Lou. if you are following my talk with Nivard, my wife's Grandfather went of to France with a large group of Ostler s from the Lincolnshire area, ( that is the story that was told to my wife by her father )  and he was also invalided out, when they were badly Gassed, the result to Joseph Andrew was to send him deaf, and a premature death in 1932 in Fenton Lincolnshire.  Joseph's life was also horses, and he followed his father who was a Garthman on an estate in Wellingore, into becoming an ostler before he moved to the Adam & Eve to look after the horses there, and in 1912, he married the owner and landlord of the Adam & Eve, before joining up with other men from Lincolnshire to go to France.. Joseph became the president of the Lincolnshire Deaf Society and my wife still has all of his medals from those days.  Regards Bazza     Barry Wilson ________________________________ From: Louis Mills <louis_mills@att.net> To: "eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com" <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 22:15 Subject: Re: [LIN] Redhead (Sherwood Foresters) My granddad served in India before World War One started.  He was in the Royal Field Artillery and worked with teams of horses pulling the caissons and the ammunition wagons.  He loved working with the horses so much that he functioned more as a groom than an artilleryman, to hear him tell it.  He was offered a job by an Indian official to serve as a groom once his service ended, but grandma wouldn't leave England, so he turned the job down. He came home to England, but reinlisted for World War I.  They shipped him off to France, of course.  He told us that the horses were better than trucks in the muddy conditions, but he saw a number of horses that were hurt or injured just by the heavy equipment involved.  He was invalided out of the service after a horse kicked him in the groin and damaged one of his testicles.     Lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mick - he's the chap I'm after. David -----Original Message----- From: Mick Claxton Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 7:29 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] JOHNSON - VICKERS marriageL Hello David. The marriage is recorded at Carrington for the date you stated. Morriss Johnson's abode is given as Mareham Le Fen. Mick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello David. The marriage is recorded at Carrington for the date you stated. Morriss Johnson's abode is given as Mareham Le Fen. Mick

Can anyone confirm if the following marriage is recorded in the LFHS Marriage Index: Morris JOHNSON & Ann VICKERS reputedly married at Carrington near Revesby on 19 May 1824 The IGI/Familysearch websites have nothing listed for Carrington covering this period, nor has Lincs-to-the-past which has yet to digitize the registers. David Meredith

There are many people from the past that I would like to have for Christmas dinner but as this is the Lincolnshire list I'll choose one of my Lincolnshire ancestors. I would love to have met my 3x great grandmother who was born Rebecca MOTLEY in Toynton all Saints in 1796 and died in Holbeach in 1865. I would ask her why she and her first husband, Edward BLANCHARD, married in Alford in 1815 and they were both 'minors'? (there was no indication of their ages in the relevant PRs. He came from Halton Holgate and she from Toynton all Saints - but maybe they were both working in Alford. Or did they go there so they could lie about their ages? Did the families not approve? Was she pregnant? (if she was she must have lost the child as their only child, a son, Thomas Mo(o)re BLANCHARD, was not born until a year later) How and/or why did Edward die in March 1818 and was buried in Halton Holgate where he was born? There was no mention of cause of death in the PRs. How did she find her next husband and marry again so quickly? She married my 3x great grandfather, Richard HUNTER (a blacksmith) in August of 1818 in Holbeach. Was Richard a good man who was willing to take on a young lady with a toddler, or did she really fall in love again so soon after her first husband died? Or was she 'knock down dead gorgeous" and all the men were after her?? Rebecca and Richard's two children were not born till 1823 and 1825 so did she have miscarriages before 1823? And then she was widowed again in 1828 (again, how and why did Richard die) so how did she cope? I understand that her son, (my great grandfather), William Motley HUNTER spent a lot of his childhood with his MOTLEY grandmother in Toynton - did Rebecca have a good relationship with him - or did she lose him to his grandmother? Was he a handful and as a widow did Rebecca had a hard time caring for him. William Motley HUNTER became a well respected and highly thought of Methodist minister. What sort or relationship did she have with William BOON who was her "partner" and a blacksmith and living in the household in censuses? How did he come to the business and did he have any "issues" with her BLANCHARD grandson, who was also a blacksmith, who was living with them? He eventually ended up in Grimsby. Rebecca was also a "publican" in one census and a "beer retailer" in another so she must have been a very hard working woman. Did she have a happy life? Was her childhood happy as one of nine children (six of whom survived infancy) and all girls? Did her father harbour any resentment towards his daughters as boys were so 'important' to families at that time? Her daughter lived at home but didn't get married till she was almost 40 (after Rebecca died), but she had three children and one of them had BOON as a middle name, so William BOON must have played quite an important part in the family. And, what would she think of the type of food I would give her for a Christmas dinner? So many questions................ Wouldn't it be great if there were answers to all the questions we all have? Elizabeth Pugh Whitehorse Yukon, Canada