Scott, Your George Marion BELLAMY appears in at least 4 Public Member Trees on Ancestry. In all of them he is stated to have been born in 1818 and in two of them in Tickhill, Yorkshire, England. Three of them have his spouse as Lydia Anne Palmer and one has Matilda Gore. I have not studied these trees in any detail so do not know if there are any sources in any of them. George's parents are given variously as Joseph and Anne or Joseph and Unknown. Terry M Wells terry.wells@talktalk.net

Huh? -----Original Message----- From: Baz Willy [mailto:spadga19382000@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:25 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Newspapers covering North Owersby There are a few comments there, that should interest a few of the Lincolnshire People.  It is a sorry state of affairs indeed, when our cousins across the pond say things  about our County, that has been apparent to a lot of people, for quite a long time.   Regards Bazza ________________________________ From: Diana Robinson <drobins6@rochester.rr.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2011, 0:12 Subject: Re: [LIN] Newspapers covering North Owersby Many thanks, Pam! Much appreciated. It's interesting that Market Rasen is closer, since they registered in Caistor. Warmly, Diana  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Diana Gardner Robinson, PhD DGR Coaching Empower Yourself! Find Your Hidden Strengths with Empowerment Coach Diana ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2604 Elmwood Ave. #230 Rochester, NY 14618 Phone: 585.473.8396 Web: http://ChoiceCoach.com E-mail: Diana@DianaRobinson.com -----Original Message----- From: Pam Downes [mailto:pam@five-oaks.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:54 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Newspapers covering North Owersby Start here for the UK as a whole. http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/bldept/news/newsplan/newsplan.html For Lincolnshire, scroll down and click East Midlands. Click search the list. For North Owersby and Usselby (for where the nearest large town seems - just! - to be Market Rasen), in the 'town/county' type Market Rasen. Check the dates - it's no good clicking on the Standard as that didn't begin publishing until 1983. <g> Click on a title, and you then get a list of the libraries which hold copies of that paper, the years held, and the format in which they're held (original or film). I suspect that other counties' libraries links are more efficient than Lincolnshire's which at the moment consist of giving you details of every mobile library in the county - I can't even get the details for Lincoln Central Library unless I type the name into the search box, which is a stupid state of affairs. Market Rasen library http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/OrganisationDetails.aspx?orgcode=319407 Lincoln Central Library http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/OrganisationDetails.aspx?orgcode=319374 I would email Market Rasen library just to confirm that events in those villages were more likely to be reported in the Market Rasen newspaper than one published in Caister. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 05/12/2011 01:35, Diana Robinson wrote: > Can anyone please tell me what newspaper would have been most likely to > carry news about North Owersby during the period 1835 - 1901 and Usselby > after that? > > Happy hunting! > > Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) > Now in Rochester, NY, USA > > > ------------------------------- > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Terry,  This is very interesting information. Definitely a lead worth following. Thank you. I am going to order the certificates and hopefully this might be the big break I was looking for. ________________________________ From: Terry Wells <terry.wells@talktalk.net> To: 'Scott Bellamy' <scottb992000@yahoo.com>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [LIN] George Bellamy Scott, To add to the confusion:  If you do a FreeBMD search for Bellamy/Gore marriages you will find a Harriott Bellamy and a Matilda Gore at Huntingdon Dec Qtr 1846 (Vol XIV, Page 361).  You would of course have to buy the certificate to be sure that these two of the seven (should be eight) on the page actually married.  Huntingdon was also the RD for a James Edward in Mar ¼ 1848 and a George in Mar ¼ 1849.  The nearest William was Sep ¼ 1852 which is after the emigration so doesn’t help.  I really believe you should look into these in more detail as this is the only Matilda Gore marriage in the right time frame. Terry M Wells ________________________________________ From: Scott Bellamy [mailto:scottb992000@yahoo.com] Sent: 07 December 2011 16:38 To: Terry Wells; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] George Bellamy Terry - I have seen those trees. What I have for sure is that George Marion Bellamy married Matilda Gore about 1848 in England (believe it is Lincolnshire). They rode the immigrant ship "Jane" from Liverpool to New Orleans and arrived in Jan 1851. They had their sons James (b:1848), George (b:about 1849), William (b:about 1850) with them. George Marion is listed as Marriott on the manifest, probably a typo.William and his mother Matilda Bellamy died at sea. I have records of George Jr and can follow him, James seems to have disappeared, as I can find nothing after arrival in the US, perhaps he died at a young age or he moved on prior to the 1870 Census. George Marion Bellamy remarried to Lydia Palmer 19 Jul 1856. They had 6 children together. they were Charles, Mary, William, Granville, Samuel, and Anna. Granville and Samuel were twins. Granville is my gg-grandfather. Some people have listed George Marion Bellamy's death as 13 Jan 1910, but I believe he died prior to 1880, because the 1880 Census lists Lydia as a widow living with her nephew. My grandfather several years ago (Pre-internet), actually was the one that found that George Marion Bellamy was from Lincolnshire, it is possible that he was actually from somewhere else and moved to Lincolnshire, I am just really stuck on trying to find his parents. The LDS lists George Marion Bellamy as being born about 1828 Lincolnshire, England. He was listed as age 30 on the ship's manifest, this would put birthday about 1821. The 1870 Census lists his age as 52, this would make his birth year about 1818. All a lot of confusing information..... ________________________________________ From: Terry Wells <terry.wells@talktalk.net> To: 'Scott Bellamy' <scottb992000@yahoo.com>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [LIN] George Bellamy Scott, Your George Marion BELLAMY appears in at least 4 Public Member Trees on Ancestry.  In all of them he is stated to have been born in 1818 and in two of them in Tickhill, Yorkshire, England.  Three of them have his spouse as Lydia Anne Palmer and one has Matilda Gore.  I have not studied these trees in any detail so do not know if there are any sources in any of them. George's parents are given variously as Joseph and Anne or Joseph and Unknown. Terry M Wells terry.wells@talktalk.net

Scott, I have quite a lot of Laughterton BELLAMYs in my tree going back to Gervase BELLAMY born about 1589 in Laneham, Notts. My line moved across the Notts/Lincs border in the early 1700s when a John BELLAMY married Ann MELLISH in 1707. The parish church for Laughterton was St Peter & St Paul at Kettlethorpe which is where most of the Bp/M/Bu activities took place. I have four John BELLAMYs but not the one who would have been married to Ann in the 1841 census. They were no doubt related to mine though. If you find a definite connection to the Laughterton BELLAMYs please get in touch. Terry M Wells -----Original Message----- From: Scott Bellamy [mailto:scottb992000@yahoo.com] Sent: 05 December 2011 20:49 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] George Bellamy <snip> Now, there is an 1841 England Census that lists a John Bellamy and Ann Bellamy from the Louterton Laughterton), Lincolnshire area with a son named George that was 12 years old, this would match the 1828 or 1829 birth date. I believe he died prior to 1880 because the 1880 Census shows his wife as a widow and she is living with a nephew.

Terry -  I have seen those trees. What I have for sure is that George Marion Bellamy married Matilda Gore about 1848 in England (believe it is Lincolnshire). They rode the immigrant ship "Jane" from Liverpool to New Orleans and arrived in Jan 1851. They had their sons James (b:1848), George (b:about 1849), William (b:about 1850) with them. George Marion is listed as Marriott on the manifest, probably a typo.William and his mother Matilda Bellamy died at sea. I have records of George Jr and can follow him, James seems to have disappeared, as I can find nothing after arrival in the US, perhaps he died at a young age or he moved on prior to the 1870 Census. George Marion Bellamy remarried to Lydia Palmer 19 Jul 1856. They had 6 children together. they were Charles, Mary, William, Granville, Samuel, and Anna. Granville and Samuel were twins. Granville is my gg-grandfather. Some people have listed George Marion Bellamy's death as 13 Jan 1910, but I believe he died prior to 1880, because the 1880 Census lists Lydia as a widow living with her nephew. My grandfather several years ago (Pre-internet), actually was the one that found that George Marion Bellamy was from Lincolnshire, it is possible that he was actually from somewhere else and moved to Lincolnshire, I am just really stuck on trying to find his parents. The LDS lists George Marion Bellamy as being born about 1828 Lincolnshire, England. He was listed as age 30 on the ship's manifest, this would put birthday about 1821. The 1870 Census lists his age as 52, this would make his birth year about 1818. All a lot of confusing information..... ________________________________ From: Terry Wells <terry.wells@talktalk.net> To: 'Scott Bellamy' <scottb992000@yahoo.com>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [LIN] George Bellamy Scott, Your George Marion BELLAMY appears in at least 4 Public Member Trees on Ancestry.  In all of them he is stated to have been born in 1818 and in two of them in Tickhill, Yorkshire, England.  Three of them have his spouse as Lydia Anne Palmer and one has Matilda Gore.  I have not studied these trees in any detail so do not know if there are any sources in any of them. George's parents are given variously as Joseph and Anne or Joseph and Unknown. Terry M Wells terry.wells@talktalk.net

There are a few comments there, that should interest a few of the Lincolnshire People.  It is a sorry state of affairs indeed, when our cousins across the pond say things  about our County, that has been apparent to a lot of people, for quite a long time.   Regards Bazza ________________________________ From: Diana Robinson <drobins6@rochester.rr.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2011, 0:12 Subject: Re: [LIN] Newspapers covering North Owersby Many thanks, Pam! Much appreciated. It's interesting that Market Rasen is closer, since they registered in Caistor. Warmly, Diana  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Diana Gardner Robinson, PhD DGR Coaching Empower Yourself! Find Your Hidden Strengths with Empowerment Coach Diana ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2604 Elmwood Ave. #230 Rochester, NY 14618 Phone: 585.473.8396 Web: http://ChoiceCoach.com E-mail: Diana@DianaRobinson.com -----Original Message----- From: Pam Downes [mailto:pam@five-oaks.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:54 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Newspapers covering North Owersby Start here for the UK as a whole. http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/bldept/news/newsplan/newsplan.html For Lincolnshire, scroll down and click East Midlands. Click search the list. For North Owersby and Usselby (for where the nearest large town seems - just! - to be Market Rasen), in the 'town/county' type Market Rasen. Check the dates - it's no good clicking on the Standard as that didn't begin publishing until 1983. <g> Click on a title, and you then get a list of the libraries which hold copies of that paper, the years held, and the format in which they're held (original or film). I suspect that other counties' libraries links are more efficient than Lincolnshire's which at the moment consist of giving you details of every mobile library in the county - I can't even get the details for Lincoln Central Library unless I type the name into the search box, which is a stupid state of affairs. Market Rasen library http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/OrganisationDetails.aspx?orgcode=319407 Lincoln Central Library http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/OrganisationDetails.aspx?orgcode=319374 I would email Market Rasen library just to confirm that events in those villages were more likely to be reported in the Market Rasen newspaper than one published in Caister. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 05/12/2011 01:35, Diana Robinson wrote: > Can anyone please tell me what newspaper would have been most likely to > carry news about North Owersby during the period 1835 - 1901 and Usselby > after that? > > Happy hunting! > > Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) > Now in Rochester, NY, USA > > > ------------------------------- > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have not yet followed done a lot of research on my late husbands BELLAMY connection. I have William Bellamy and his wife Rebekah (Brown), with a baby son Thomas leaving for Philadelphia in 1855. Thomas was born in Newark. 1854. Their daughter Lucy Matilda was born in Ohio. along with her mother she had returned to England by 1881 and married into the Gilbert family. Seeing Matilda Bellamy mentioned jogged me to think of this family line. I wonder how common the name Matilda was in those days. I will see if I can find anything more in my notes or research a bit more. Notts and Lincs seem to be areas for the Bellamy families. Valerie

Not my 3xGGG Grandfather. It is after 1851 that he goes of the radar. Very conceivable that he died but if so he was not buried in Whaplode Drove or Parson Drove which are the favourites for him to be buried in. I do have a William who is elusive on census returns but as he was baptised in 1822 I think the 1834 transportation you refer to in your second post is unlikely. The Norfolk one could possibly be mine but given what I know about the families the Alcocks married into it seems unlikely. Certainly not enough to go chasing after it. John R G Bland Spalding Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ Reg. Charity No 1000724 > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Reynolds > Sent: 05 December 2011 01:14 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] Its official my 3x Great Grandfather is missing! > > > There is a ship's manifest for a William Alcock convicted in Norfolk > to Tasmania in 1841 on Ancestry. It has an interesting note that > looks like he mighthave returned to England in 1846 as a third class > passenger. Do you have access to those John? He might have been > convicted and sent out twice or it might be two different men, might > not be your at all, but sure worth a shot in the dark! > > Susan > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Joan Van Daalen <jvandaal@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > Might he have been left something in a will?   Joan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Bland" <johnbland@parkavenue36.freeserve.co.uk> > > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:17 PM > > Subject: [LIN] Its official my 3x Great Grandfather is missing! > > > > > >> Hello Listers, > >> > >> > >> > >> Now that British Newspaper Archive has gone live > >> http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ , I have made are start on > >> looking > >> for snippets that appeared in the newspapers relating to members of my > >> tree. > >> > >> > >> > >> I found this one in the Stamford Mercury relating to my 3x Great > >> Grandfather > >> John ALLCOCK who was born in Parson Drove in 1790 but last seen on the > >> 1851 > >> census in Whaplode Drove > >> > >> > >> > >> Friday 1 April 1870 (page 6 col 4) > >> > >> > >> > >> Any person who can give information as to the Residence and Address of > >> John > >> Allcock formerly of Whaplode Drove, in the county of Lincoln, Labourer > (if > >> living) or of his real Representative (if deceased), are requested to > >> forward such information immediately to the undersigned. All reasonable > >> expenses incurred will be paid. > >> > >> > >> > >> EDWARD COPEMAN, Solicitor, Holbeach. > >> > >> > >> > >> So if no one knew where he disappeared to 140 years ago, I suspect I am > >> going to have even less of a chance of finding him now! > >> > >> > >> > >> The 1841 census shows John to be living in Whaplode Drove apparently > >> estranged from his wife Hannah who was living at Parson Drove. In > John's > >> household were Susan Woodvine 40, an unmarried female and an apparent > son > >> James Allcock aged 6. Neither Susan or James were born in Lincolnshire > >> leaving a possible conclusion that they were born in Parson Drove, > >> Cambridgeshire. This apparent relationship may explain why John's wife > was > >> shown as an Ag Lab and Annuitant on the 1851 census, and why Hannah is > >> buried at Parson Drove, with no mention of John on the Gravestone. I > can > >> find no trace of John after 1851. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any thoughts on why a Solicitor was looking for him? His wife Hannah > died > >> in > >> 1861, so it has nothing to do with supporting her. As this was before > the > >> Married Woman's Property Act of 1872 her money would be his. If she had > >> died > >> whilst he was still alive what would the position have been in regards > to > >> any assets in her possession at the time she died? Would they become > his > >> by > >> default even if no one knew where he had gone? > >> > >> > >> > >> The only other reason I can think of that a Solicitor would put a > notice > >> in > >> a paper would be for unpaid debts, but offering to pay expenses seems > >> generous if chasing a bad debt. > >> > >> > >> > >> Does anyone have any information on Edward Copeman - I might respond to > >> which ever firm took on his business. > >> > >> > >> > >> John R G Bland > >> > >> > >> > >> Spalding > >> > >> > >> > >> Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society > >> www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ > >> > >> Reg. Charity No 1000724 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Dear List, I have just been transcribing the Merionethshire Standard - Merionethshire is the old county of Gwynedd and came across the below entry: Deaths 27 February 1866 Mrs. BOLLARD aged 62 at Barmouth widow of late Rev. William BOLLARD, rector of Swineshead, Lincolnshire. Hope it may be of interest to someone. Regards, Gillian Fynes

Many thanks, Pam! Much appreciated. It's interesting that Market Rasen is closer, since they registered in Caistor. Warmly, Diana  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Diana Gardner Robinson, PhD DGR Coaching Empower Yourself! Find Your Hidden Strengths with Empowerment Coach Diana ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2604 Elmwood Ave. #230 Rochester, NY 14618 Phone: 585.473.8396 Web: http://ChoiceCoach.com E-mail: Diana@DianaRobinson.com -----Original Message----- From: Pam Downes [mailto:pam@five-oaks.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:54 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Newspapers covering North Owersby Start here for the UK as a whole. http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/bldept/news/newsplan/newsplan.html For Lincolnshire, scroll down and click East Midlands. Click search the list. For North Owersby and Usselby (for where the nearest large town seems - just! - to be Market Rasen), in the 'town/county' type Market Rasen. Check the dates - it's no good clicking on the Standard as that didn't begin publishing until 1983. <g> Click on a title, and you then get a list of the libraries which hold copies of that paper, the years held, and the format in which they're held (original or film). I suspect that other counties' libraries links are more efficient than Lincolnshire's which at the moment consist of giving you details of every mobile library in the county - I can't even get the details for Lincoln Central Library unless I type the name into the search box, which is a stupid state of affairs. Market Rasen library http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/OrganisationDetails.aspx?orgcode=319407 Lincoln Central Library http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/OrganisationDetails.aspx?orgcode=319374 I would email Market Rasen library just to confirm that events in those villages were more likely to be reported in the Market Rasen newspaper than one published in Caister. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 05/12/2011 01:35, Diana Robinson wrote: > Can anyone please tell me what newspaper would have been most likely to > carry news about North Owersby during the period 1835 - 1901 and Usselby > after that? > > Happy hunting! > > Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) > Now in Rochester, NY, USA > > > ------------------------------- >

Hi, I too would be interested in hearing from anyone with a BL sub who would be prepared to do a 'one off' check of a specific Lincolnshire Chronicle reference, Thanks Ken Woodgate New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter HOLMES Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 1:16 p.m. To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lucy HOLMES - mid 1890's court report in Spaldingnewspaper Nivard, Thanks for the info. I spotted another member's reference to the BL web site and as it seems to need a subscription I'm hoping that if that member has a sub he might be able to do a more complete look up. If any other lister has a sub & is willing to help then let me know. Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 6:59 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Lucy HOLMES - mid 1890's court report in Spaldingnewspaper Hi Peter The new BL newspapers site may help They have Lincolnshire Chronicle (1838-1903) http://www1.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found this site to be very helpful both for the US and UK. Norm http://www.abyznewslinks.com/

Remember, too, that Lincolnshire newspapers are listed at: http://ww.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/papers.html It's also hard to keep current with all the mergers, closings, rebrandings, etc. in the industry, so if you find any information that is out of date on that web page, let me know.     Lou ________________________________ From: David Meredith <david.meredith@live.co.uk> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Newspapers covering North Owersby Are folk forgetting that many (but not all) of the '19th Century British Library Newspapers' are available online for free via the Gale Group who have made them available to participating UK county council public libraries using an individual's library card number to access same. -snip-

Are folk forgetting that many (but not all) of the '19th Century British Library Newspapers' are available online for free via the Gale Group who have made them available to participating UK county council public libraries using an individual's library card number to access same. For those UK and non UK residents who don't have access to a library card I feel sure that in the past this mailing list has posted details of one UK county council library service that offered a online virtual library card giving free access to the online newspapers - was it Lancashire or a library in that county? Regarding 'which newspaper to seek out for a particular place'. Don't forget a lot of the news of the day was syndicated. For example I have interests in north Lincolnshire and have found out-of-county papers such as 'The Hull Packet' and 'York Herald' carry Lincolnshire items. Indeed searching for 'North Owersby' produced the following piece appearing in the The Morning Post (London, England) edition of Monday, 5th December 1842 which had been previously reported in the York Herald...... 'A Wife Killed by Her Husband - On Sunday last, a tragic event took place at North Gullum Farm, in the parish of North Owersby, near Market Rasen, Lincolnshire....'<snip> The report goes on to state that a labourer named BRITCLIFFE assaulted his pregnant wife during a heated argument resulting in her death a few hours later - a coroners inquest later held at Caistor returned a verdict of 'Manslaughter' - BRITCLIFFE being committed the Castle, Lincoln pending trial at the next assizes. The newspaper report concludes with the following observation.... 'A family of nine children are left to mourn the loss of a mother and a father'. The Lincs. Fam. Hist. Society Inquests CD1 identies this couple as John and Sarah BRITCIFFE. The 1841 census for North Owersby (HO107; Piece 641; Book: 16; Civil Parish: Owersby; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 8; Page: 11) lists the following all born in Lincs; John BRITLIFFE . 40 . Ag Lab Sarah do . 40 Elizabeth do . 14 George do . 13 Robert do . 10 Ann do . 7 Mary do . 5 William do . 4 Jane do . 2 Joseph do . 7 mths William FISH . 2 I have no family connection with this family. David Meredith - Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: Diana Robinson Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 1:35 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Newspapers covering North Owersby Can anyone please tell me what newspaper would have been most likely to carry news about North Owersby during the period 1835 - 1901 and Usselby after that? Happy hunting! Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter "A middle aged woman, named Lucy Holmes a house keeper, of 7 Kay-street, Padiham" Could this be her? If so I will sent you the complete article Cheers, Jay On 05-Dec-11 9:52 AM, Peter HOLMES wrote: > G'day from Western Australia, > > > > I know about Lucy before an incident in the mid 1890's probably in Pinchbeck > (West) or close by and then what happened after a conviction and > imprisonment but I'd like to discover either the court report/register or > if there was a pres article. > > > > Any ideas how I can discover this? > > > > Peter Holmes > > Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes > > [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then > Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. > [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire& Nottinghamshire)] [FREER > (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT& WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N& S Kyme, N& S > Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada > & some in New York& Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless > stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Margaret. The link did not work to the Census. I probably should have mentioned that George Marion Bellamy and Matilda immigrated to the US in Jan 1851, along with sons George, William, and James. William died at sea and supposedly so did Matilda, although it does not show on the manifest that she died at sea, only that William did. George remarried Lydia Palmer in Indiana. I am pretty solid with George's information once in the US. My grandfather, years before the internet traced his side to this George Marion Bellamy coming from Lincolnshire. I have conflicting birth dates for George Marion Bellamy, my Grandfather lists him as being born in 1828, (no supporting documentation), according to the 1870 US Census, it lists him as being born 1818, according to the ship manifest it lists him as 30 years old, that would put him born around 1820 or 1821. Now, there is an 1841 England Census that lists a John Bellamy and Ann Bellamy from the Louterton (Laughterton), Lincolnshire area with a son named George that was 12 years old, this would match the 1828 or 1829 birth date. I believe he died prior to 1880 because the 1880 Census shows his wife as a widow and she is living with a nephew. ________________________________ From: Margaret Taylor <magmom@rogers.com> To: Scott Bellamy <scottb992000@yahoo.com>; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] George Bellamy I wonder if the George age 2 bn N Willingham living with grandparents John & Susannah BELLAMY in 1851 is "your" George's son.(I am sending you a copy of the census entry.) I can't find either Matilda nor George snr in 1851 but there is a Matilda BELLAMY dying in1849 ( not in Lincs however.). The IGI notes a George bp 1821 to a couple named John & Susannah BELLAMY. 25. GEORGE BELLAMY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 02 SEP 1821 North Willingham, Lincoln, England Perhaps these are your George's parents??? Margaret Taylor (Toronto) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Bellamy" <scottb992000@yahoo.com> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: [LIN] George Bellamy Looking for the parents of George Marion Bellamy b: 1818, 1819, 1825, 1828? Lincolnshire he married Matilda Gore abt 1848. They had a son named George b: 14 Feb 1849. Any information on the elusive parents would be greatly appreciated.

I wonder if the George age 2 bn N Willingham living with grandparents John & Susannah BELLAMY in 1851 is "your" George's son.(I am sending you a copy of the census entry.) I can't find either Matilda nor George snr in 1851 but there is a Matilda BELLAMY dying in1849 ( not in Lincs however.). The IGI notes a George bp 1821 to a couple named John & Susannah BELLAMY. 25. GEORGE BELLAMY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 02 SEP 1821 North Willingham, Lincoln, England Perhaps these are your George's parents??? Margaret Taylor (Toronto) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Bellamy" <scottb992000@yahoo.com> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: [LIN] George Bellamy Looking for the parents of George Marion Bellamy b: 1818, 1819, 1825, 1828? Lincolnshire he married Matilda Gore abt 1848. They had a son named George b: 14 Feb 1849. Any information on the elusive parents would be greatly appreciated.

Peter, There is an article in the Lincolnshire Chronicle dated September 5th 1884 whereby John Thomas Holmes, cattle dealer, Pinchbeck West is appearing before Spalding Petty Sessions for "neglecting to contribute to the maintenance of his wife Lucy Holmes in Broadmoor Criminal Lunatic Asylum since 23 April last year". Ordered to contribute 4s. per week from date of order. ------------------ If this is indeed the Lucy you are looking for you may wish to take a look at http://www.berkshirerecordoffice.org.uk/albums/broadmoor/ which has: NEW! Download the FREE ebook 'Broadmoor Revealed: Victorian Crime and the Lunatic Asylum' onto any device at www.smashwords.com/books/view/71149. The Berkshire Record Office looks after the historic archives of Broadmoor Hospital. Thanks to generous grants from The Wellcome Trust these archives are now available for research, subject to access restrictions. The archives tell the history of this unique institution. There are many individual patient histories within the archive, and the pages below tell some of these. ------------------- Broadmoor of course is still a high security prison/hospital where those such as the Kray twins were incarcerated. Terry M Wells terry.wells@talktalk.net -----Original Message----- From: Peter HOLMES [mailto:pgh@multiline.com.au] Sent: 04 December 2011 22:53 To: Lincolnshire new Subject: [LIN] Lucy HOLMES - mid 1890's court report in Spalding newspaper G'day from Western Australia, I know about Lucy before an incident in the mid 1890's probably in Pinchbeck (West) or close by and then what happened after a conviction and imprisonment but I'd like to discover either the court report/register or if there was a pres article. Any ideas how I can discover this? Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch).

Not wishing to stop anyone doing what they want to but thought it sensible to advise that any subscriber should read the terms and conditions, which in normal findmypast style, explicitly forbids anyone supplying information from the paid for results or the image How they would police that if they don't see it on a list or similar is another matter of course Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, > > I too would be interested in hearing from anyone with a BL sub who would be > prepared to do a 'one off' check of a specific Lincolnshire Chronicle > reference, > > Thanks > > Ken Woodgate > New Zealand

This is an interesting one for me because William's partner in crime was George Dandison, who may be a very distant ancestor of mine. I couldn't understand why George didn't appear in the Tasmanian online convict records until I came across the single reference 'Drowned.' If you Google 'Wreck of George III' you will find that the ship was wrecked off Tasmania and most of the convicts were drowned. If I remember the reports correctly, after a difficult journey (disease & delay, leading to shortage of food) the captain tried to take a short cut and hit some rocks. Soldiers were posted at the hold with muskets to prevent the prisoners escaping and causing trouble, and they set them free too late, so most drowned. There was an inquiry but they did not find the captain guilty. So George, and possibly William, have a watery grave. Regards Geoff Blyth -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Calvin Sent: 04 December 2011 04:46 To: johnbland@parkavenue36.freeserve.co.uk; eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Its official my 3x Great Grandfather is missing! Don't find him transported or convicted under his own name, but thought this might interest you if you don't already know about it. Convicts Details William ALCOCK Alias: n/a Of: Whaplode Occupation: Labourer Age: 22 Crime: Stealing a pint of brandy and a pint of rum from the 'Star' public house, the property of Alexander Ironside Place of Crime: Whaplode Court: Holland Quarter Sessions Trial Date: 03/07/1834 Sentence: 14 Years Ship: George the Third Destination: Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land) Transportation Date: 1835 Sources Used: Trial Documents including witness statements Other Remarks: Crime committed with George Dandison. Alcock had a previous conviction at HQS on 5/7/1832 for stealing an ass Document Ref: HQS A/1/1834/Sp/Mids/22-30,32-35,185,194,210-211 At 05:17 PM 12/3/2011, you wrote: >Hello Listers, > > > >Now that British Newspaper Archive has gone live >http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ , I have made are start on >looking for snippets that appeared in the newspapers relating to members of my tree. > > > >I found this one in the Stamford Mercury relating to my 3x Great >Grandfather John ALLCOCK who was born in Parson Drove in 1790 but last >seen on the 1851 census in Whaplode Drove > > > >Friday 1 April 1870 (page 6 col 4) > > > >Any person who can give information as to the Residence and Address of >John Allcock formerly of Whaplode Drove, in the county of Lincoln, >Labourer (if >living) or of his real Representative (if deceased), are requested to >forward such information immediately to the undersigned. All reasonable >expenses incurred will be paid. > > > >EDWARD COPEMAN, Solicitor, Holbeach. > > > >So if no one knew where he disappeared to 140 years ago, I suspect I am >going to have even less of a chance of finding him now! > > > >The 1841 census shows John to be living in Whaplode Drove apparently >estranged from his wife Hannah who was living at Parson Drove. In >John's household were Susan Woodvine 40, an unmarried female and an >apparent son James Allcock aged 6. Neither Susan or James were born in >Lincolnshire leaving a possible conclusion that they were born in >Parson Drove, Cambridgeshire. This apparent relationship may explain >why John's wife was shown as an Ag Lab and Annuitant on the 1851 >census, and why Hannah is buried at Parson Drove, with no mention of >John on the Gravestone. I can find no trace of John after 1851. > > > >Any thoughts on why a Solicitor was looking for him? His wife Hannah >died in 1861, so it has nothing to do with supporting her. As this was >before the Married Woman's Property Act of 1872 her money would be his. >If she had died whilst he was still alive what would the position have >been in regards to any assets in her possession at the time she died? >Would they become his by default even if no one knew where he had gone? > > > >The only other reason I can think of that a Solicitor would put a >notice in a paper would be for unpaid debts, but offering to pay >expenses seems generous if chasing a bad debt. > > > >Does anyone have any information on Edward Copeman - I might respond to >which ever firm took on his business. > > > >John R G Bland > > > >Spalding > > > >Member of the Lincolnshire Family History Society >www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ > >Reg. Charity No 1000724 > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4655 - Release Date: >12/03/11 -- Lynn Calvin Aurora, IL lcalvin@interaccess.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message