Brian, FreeBMD has the marriage recorded in the June qtr of 1890 at Grantham 7a, page 929. I suggest you send for the marriage certificate which should give you the names of the fathers of the bride and groom, along with other useful info, eg the names of witnesses, often enlightening. It's well worth the £9.00 or so, and should not take too long if ordered on-line. Good luck. Joan, in Newmarket, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Varrall" <brian@varrall.net> To: <ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:17 PM Subject: [LIN] GREEN x WETTLEBOURN Greetings Lincs. The Marriage Index for Q2/1890 records a union between Valentine GREEN and Ada Jane WETTLEBOURN, in Grantham RD. They can be seen on the 1891 census at 5 Mill Lane, Bottesford, and from this and subsequent returns, Ada's pob appears to be Thornton-le-Clay, Yorks., c1865. Problem is, I can't find any other record of that (Wettlebourn) surname or anything remotely resembling it, either for Ada, Jane or any other forename - and that applies not just to Yorkshire and Lincs., but anywhere else, at any time. I believe Valentine died in 1893 and that Ada remarried a Frederick William ROBINSON in 1896, appearing on the 1901 return at 19 St Peter’s Hill, Grantham. The presence of an Ada Jane ROBINSON with matching date and pob in the 1871 & 1881 census returns for Thornton, Yorks. is, I hope entirely flukey! Can anyone throw any light on the name WETTLEBOURN, or am I still suffering from a surfeit of brandy butter? Brian 50°44.6" N 04°00.6" W ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings Lincs. The Marriage Index for Q2/1890 records a union between Valentine GREEN and Ada Jane WETTLEBOURN, in Grantham RD. They can be seen on the 1891 census at 5 Mill Lane, Bottesford, and from this and subsequent returns, Ada's pob appears to be Thornton-le-Clay, Yorks., c1865. Problem is, I can't find any other record of that (Wettlebourn) surname or anything remotely resembling it, either for Ada, Jane or any other forename - and that applies not just to Yorkshire and Lincs., but anywhere else, at any time. I believe Valentine died in 1893 and that Ada remarried a Frederick William ROBINSON in 1896, appearing on the 1901 return at 19 St Peter’s Hill, Grantham. The presence of an Ada Jane ROBINSON with matching date and pob in the 1871 & 1881 census returns for Thornton, Yorks. is, I hope entirely flukey! Can anyone throw any light on the name WETTLEBOURN, or am I still suffering from a surfeit of brandy butter? Brian 50°44.6" N 04°00.6" W

Hello again Mike   The Elizabeth ROYCE who died in 1844 (5th Dec) in Bourne Reg District was aged 72, according to the burial record.  A Mark ROYCE died aged 55 in March 1819 (so he was born 1764!) at Deeping St James.  A Jemima ROYCE died November 1870 at Market Deeping, aged 69, and if she was unmarried, she was not baptized in Deeping; however, a Josiah ROYCE son of Mark and Elizabeth was baptized at Market Deeping in October 1807.   John ________________________________ From: Michael Wells <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: "eng-lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com" <eng-lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2012, 20:52 Subject: [LIN] Elizabeth ROYCE Mkt Deeping Helo From NZ again   In 1841 Elizabeth ROYCE (65) is living in Mkt Deeping with who I assume is her daugter Jemima (35) both ages I also assume are rounded.  I think she probably died in the Dec Q 1844 (Bourn 14 198)   Is anyone able to confirm that Elizabeth was the wife of Mark ROYCE who was born in 1764 in Exton Rutland?  If so, did Mark die in Mkt Deeping before compulsory registration?   Is anyone able to add anything about any of these three people, please?

--Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: zolashepley@hotmail.it To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:10:10 +0100 Subject: [LIN] HENRY WALLIS born Louth area 185? Hello List,I'm still trying to find my gggrandfather Henry WALLIS who was born in the Louth area (for at least 20yrs he is my big brick wall). I cannot find him before his marriage 1st Jan 1879 in Hull, after this he lived in Keyingham East Yorks till he died 28th Feb 1934 on his gravestone it says he was 84 years old. He is not the son of Thomas Wilkinson WALLIS and Susannah nee CROW this I know for sure as their son is accounted for. I have him on all the census's from 1881-1901 cenHenry 1850 Lincolnshire Louth East Riding Of York Keyingham Ordinary Agricultural Laborer 1901 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Keyingham Ecclesiastical parish: Keyingham St Nicholas Town: Keyingham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Patrington Sub-registration district: Patrington Household schedule number: 116 Household Members: Name Age Frederick A Lowery 1 grandson Ada M Wallis 14 Henry Wallis 51 Sarah A Wallis 44 1891 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah S Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Keyingham Ecclesiastical parish: Keyingham Town: Keyingham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Patrington Sub-registration district: Patrington ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household Members: Name Age Ethel M Buck 14 Ada M Wallis 4 Arthur Wallis 6 George W Wallis 3 Henry Wallis 40 John H Wallis 10 Joseph Wallis 7 Sarah S Wallis 34 1881 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Son in Law Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincoln, England Civil parish: Keyingham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Main Street Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Patrington Sub-registration district: Patrington ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household Members: Name Age James Buck 58 Ethel M. Wallis 4 Henry Wallis 24 John H. Wallis Sarah A. Wallis 24 One of his son's (George born 1888) moved to Saxby All Saints after he married in Dec 1911 but this could be due to the fact that his wife's family was from Winteringham. I have tried to see if I could find something on his funeral in a Newspaper that could have given me some names of people who were at the funeral hoping that this could give me some clues, but I have not had any luck finding anything on the internet.... living in Italy I cant search personally around the area. I did find a couple of others on the 1871 census but they were also on the 1881 census so could not be "my" Henry...So if anyone can help me or give me any ideas to follow up I will be most grateful Annette ZOLA SHEPLEY SORRY I FORGOT TO ADD THAT ON THE MARRIAGE CERT IT GAVE HIS FATHER AS A DECEASED HENRY WALLISANNETTE

-----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howlett Sent: Monday, 2 January 2012 10:13 p.m. To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: January theme for 'Lost Souls (Census that is) A WIlliam Jackson appears in the 1851 census age 53. Farm Servant Condition Single. See link below h107 piece 2096. Folio 646 page 1 http://www.findmypast.co.uk/CensusHouseholdSearchServlet?censusYear=1851&pf= Y&uir=36551018&lineNo=18&lineNoSuffix=0 Regards. Brian GOON 4818 On 2 Jan 2012, at 06:50, "Ken Woodgate" <Ken.woodgate@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > A query from N.Z. > > JACKSON, William - in 1841 Census- age 34 with wife Mary- age 33 & > family 5 children residing Westhorpe in Parish of Gosberton. > > 1851 - Wife Mary- age 42 in Spalding Workhouse with 6 children - (3 > older children were clearly old enough to be 'out on their own). NO > SIGN of William, her husband though. WHERE is he? > > 1861 - William reappears - age 53 (so was born c1807/1808) and was > from Thurlby. With wife Mary and 3 children plus a granddaughter they > were living at Donington Parish of Quadring. > > Question: Where was William in 1851???? (note he appears to have died > by the time of 1871 census) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > ------------ > 4. January theme for list members: We are going to help you find > lost souls in the census. Tell us who disappears in 1871, for > example, and our detectives will hunt them down and report their > whereabouts. We'll also give you the piece number, the folio and page > number so that you can find them yourselves if you don't believe us. > Remember, we can't send a copy of the page to the list because attachments aren't allowed. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hallo there Annette. my name is Barry Wilson and I live in Lincoln,(just by way of background) I do have a connection with some part of the Wallis family through the Ellmore family, I would be only to pleased to talk with you about the connection, if you wish. My Email is     Spadga19382000@Yahoo.co.uk  I do hope that I have not done anything wrong Lou,  in replying this way.  Bazza ________________________________ From: Annette Shepley <zolashepley@hotmail.it> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 23:10 Subject: [LIN] HENRY WALLIS born Louth area 185? Hello List,I'm still trying to find my gggrandfather Henry WALLIS who was born in the Louth area (for at least 20yrs he is my big brick wall). I cannot find him before his marriage 1st Jan 1879 in Hull, after this he lived in Keyingham East Yorks till he died  28th Feb 1934 on his gravestone it says he was 84 years old. He is not the son of Thomas Wilkinson WALLIS and Susannah nee CROW this I know for sure as their son is accounted for. I have him on all the census's from 1881-1901 cenHenry 1850 Lincolnshire Louth East Riding Of York Keyingham Ordinary Agricultural Laborer 1901 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 51  Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Head  Spouse's name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England  Civil parish: Keyingham  Ecclesiastical parish: Keyingham St Nicholas  Town: Keyingham  County/Island: Yorkshire  Country: England    Registration district: Patrington  Sub-registration district: Patrington  Househo! ld schedule number: 116 Household Members: Name Age Frederick A Lowery 1 grandson Ada M Wallis 14  Henry Wallis 51  Sarah A Wallis 44    1891 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 40  Estimated birth year: abt 1851  Relation: Head  Spouse's name: Sarah S Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England  Civil parish: Keyingham  Ecclesiastical parish: Keyingham  Town: Keyingham  County/Island: Yorkshire  Country: England    Street address: Registration district: Patrington  Sub-registration district: Patrington  ED, institution, or vessel: 5  Household Members: Name Age Ethel M Buck 14  Ada M Wallis 4  Arthur Wallis 6  George W Wallis 3  Henry Wallis 40  John H Wallis 10  Joseph Wallis 7  Sarah S Wallis 34    1881 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 24  Estimated birth year: abt 1857  Relation: Son in Law  Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincoln, England  Civil parish: Keyingham  County/Island: Yorkshire  Country: England    Street address: Main Street Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Ag Lab  Registration district: Patrington  Sub-registration district: Patrington  ED, institution, or vessel: 5    Household Members: Name Age James Buck 58  Ethel M. Wallis 4  Henry Wallis 24  John H. Wallis    Sarah A. Wallis 24 One of his son's (George born 1888) moved to Saxby All Saints after he married in Dec 1911 but this could be due to the fact that his wife's family was from Winteringham. I have tried to see if I could find something on his funeral in a Newspaper that could have given me some names of people who were at the funeral hoping that this could give me some clues, but I have not had any luck finding anything on the internet.... living in Italy I cant search personally around the area. I did find a couple of others on the 1871 census but they were also on the 1881 census  so could not be "my" Henry...So if anyone can help me or give me any ideas to follow up I will be most grateful Annette ZOLA SHEPLEY                            ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again from NZ   This would probably be easy if I were a millionaire to buy all the registrations of missing twigs on my wife's family tree!!  I'm not!! I have found Frederick William ROYCE in every census after his birth in 1864, what I want to know is "Who are his parents?".   According to the 1871 census he was born in Sewstern, Leics but was living as a grandson with John & Mary ROYCE in the White Horse Inn, High St., Colsterworth, Lincs.  In 1881 he was a groom for the HEAVENS in the High St., Colsterworth; thereafter in the police in Middlesex.   Thanks   Mike

To all: Let's remember to keep list queries and responses to Lincolnshire, as required by Rootsweb/Ancestry.  Thank you.     Lou (list admin.)

Hi Annette   Sorry to state the obvious, but - you have the exact date of Henry and Sarah's marriage - does Henry's father's name not appear on the marriage certifcate?   And have you followed up any possible parents' marriage in the Lincolnshire marriage indexes http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ ?  There are several Wallis (and two WALLISS) marriages dating from 1837 in the Louth area.   John ________________________________ From: Annette Shepley <zolashepley@hotmail.it> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 23:10 Subject: [LIN] HENRY WALLIS born Louth area 185? Hello List,I'm still trying to find my gggrandfather Henry WALLIS who was born in the Louth area (for at least 20yrs he is my big brick wall). I cannot find him before his marriage 1st Jan 1879 in Hull, after this he lived in Keyingham East Yorks till he died  28th Feb 1934 on his gravestone it says he was 84 years old. He is not the son of Thomas Wilkinson WALLIS and Susannah nee CROW this I know for sure as their son is accounted for. I have him on all the census's from 1881-1901 cenHenry 1850 Lincolnshire Louth East Riding Of York Keyingham Ordinary Agricultural Laborer 1901 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 51  Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Head  Spouse's name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England  Civil parish: Keyingham  Ecclesiastical parish: Keyingham St Nicholas  Town: Keyingham  County/Island: Yorkshire  Country: England    Registration district: Patrington  Sub-registration district: Patrington  Househo! ld schedule number: 116 Household Members: Name Age Frederick A Lowery 1 grandson Ada M Wallis 14  Henry Wallis 51  Sarah A Wallis 44    1891 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 40  Estimated birth year: abt 1851  Relation: Head  Spouse's name: Sarah S Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England  Civil parish: Keyingham  Ecclesiastical parish: Keyingham  Town: Keyingham  County/Island: Yorkshire  Country: England    Street address: Registration district: Patrington  Sub-registration district: Patrington  ED, institution, or vessel: 5  Household Members: Name Age Ethel M Buck 14  Ada M Wallis 4  Arthur Wallis 6  George W Wallis 3  Henry Wallis 40  John H Wallis 10  Joseph Wallis 7  Sarah S Wallis 34    1881 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 24  Estimated birth year: abt 1857  Relation: Son in Law  Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincoln, England  Civil parish: Keyingham  County/Island: Yorkshire  Country: England    Street address: Main Street Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Ag Lab  Registration district: Patrington  Sub-registration district: Patrington  ED, institution, or vessel: 5    Household Members: Name Age James Buck 58  Ethel M. Wallis 4  Henry Wallis 24  John H. Wallis    Sarah A. Wallis 24 One of his son's (George born 1888) moved to Saxby All Saints after he married in Dec 1911 but this could be due to the fact that his wife's family was from Winteringham. I have tried to see if I could find something on his funeral in a Newspaper that could have given me some names of people who were at the funeral hoping that this could give me some clues, but I have not had any luck finding anything on the internet.... living in Italy I cant search personally around the area. I did find a couple of others on the 1871 census but they were also on the 1881 census  so could not be "my" Henry...So if anyone can help me or give me any ideas to follow up I will be most grateful Annette ZOLA SHEPLEY                            ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Karen, I can find a John Portis in the Georgia militia just prior to the war and a Kerby/Kirby Portas in the Virginia Line during the war, but so far no one on the loyalist rolls. It seems like there is a loyalist database on Rootsweb. Susan On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:43 PM, I Trumpour <itrump@telus.net> wrote: > The United Empire Loyalist Association has a website with a lot of > information and list of names: > www.uelac.org > There is also a rootsweb mail list for United Empire Loyalists. > > Soldiers were not necessarily classed as "United Empire" loyalists. The UE > designation was usually given to people who suffered losses of property in > the American colonies, as well as fought for the Crown. I don't see Portas > on the uelac list of loyalist names, but he could still have been a soldier > who fought in the revolution. > > Ivy Trumpour UE > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KAREN GLASS > Sent: January-03-12 10:37 AM > To: Lincolnshire mailList > Subject: [LIN] British Loyalists in American Revolution > > Hi list, > > I have some potential missing people before the 1841 census -- particularly > around the time of the American Revolution. It had occurred to me that > around 1776-1790 there may have been some of my ancestors could have been > part of the soldiers who went to America to fight for the Crown as well as > those Loyalists on Colonial land who also fought. > > Does anyone know of any lists for that war... And then there is the War of > 1812... > > Surname: PORTAS and any variation spellings. > > Any help or leads would be appreciated. > > > Regards, > > Karen Glass, Illinois > LFHS # C6288 > http://www.mytuthers.com/myGenealogy/genIntro.htm > kglass18@mac.com > PORTEOUS DNA Surname Project (includes PORTAS) - > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/porteous > > Researching in: > UK--Lincolnshire, Yorkshire; > USA--Kansas, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan; > CA--Ontario; > [includes other spelling variations] > PORTEOUS; PORTAS; PORTUS; > VAMPLEW; VANPLEW; > PATCHETT, ROUSE, FOWLER > > "Give Peace a Chance" > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yet another ROYCE from Lincs (and NZ!) Mary ROYCE was born in North Witham in 1838 to John & Mary.  She is with them in 1841 & 1851 in Sewstern Leics., then disappears. There isn't a death or marriage for a Mary ROYCE in either Melton Mowbray (Sewstern) on Grantham (North Witham) that I can see. Any help gratefully received, thanks Mike

Hello List,I'm still trying to find my gggrandfather Henry WALLIS who was born in the Louth area (for at least 20yrs he is my big brick wall). I cannot find him before his marriage 1st Jan 1879 in Hull, after this he lived in Keyingham East Yorks till he died 28th Feb 1934 on his gravestone it says he was 84 years old. He is not the son of Thomas Wilkinson WALLIS and Susannah nee CROW this I know for sure as their son is accounted for. I have him on all the census's from 1881-1901 cenHenry 1850 Lincolnshire Louth East Riding Of York Keyingham Ordinary Agricultural Laborer 1901 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Keyingham Ecclesiastical parish: Keyingham St Nicholas Town: Keyingham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Patrington Sub-registration district: Patrington Household schedule number: 116 Household Members: Name Age Frederick A Lowery 1 grandson Ada M Wallis 14 Henry Wallis 51 Sarah A Wallis 44 1891 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah S Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Keyingham Ecclesiastical parish: Keyingham Town: Keyingham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Patrington Sub-registration district: Patrington ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household Members: Name Age Ethel M Buck 14 Ada M Wallis 4 Arthur Wallis 6 George W Wallis 3 Henry Wallis 40 John H Wallis 10 Joseph Wallis 7 Sarah S Wallis 34 1881 England Census about Henry Wallis Name: Henry Wallis Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Son in Law Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincoln, England Civil parish: Keyingham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Main Street Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Patrington Sub-registration district: Patrington ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household Members: Name Age James Buck 58 Ethel M. Wallis 4 Henry Wallis 24 John H. Wallis Sarah A. Wallis 24 One of his son's (George born 1888) moved to Saxby All Saints after he married in Dec 1911 but this could be due to the fact that his wife's family was from Winteringham. I have tried to see if I could find something on his funeral in a Newspaper that could have given me some names of people who were at the funeral hoping that this could give me some clues, but I have not had any luck finding anything on the internet.... living in Italy I cant search personally around the area. I did find a couple of others on the 1871 census but they were also on the 1881 census so could not be "my" Henry...So if anyone can help me or give me any ideas to follow up I will be most grateful Annette ZOLA SHEPLEY

The United Empire Loyalist Association has a website with a lot of information and list of names: www.uelac.org There is also a rootsweb mail list for United Empire Loyalists. Soldiers were not necessarily classed as "United Empire" loyalists. The UE designation was usually given to people who suffered losses of property in the American colonies, as well as fought for the Crown. I don't see Portas on the uelac list of loyalist names, but he could still have been a soldier who fought in the revolution. Ivy Trumpour UE -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KAREN GLASS Sent: January-03-12 10:37 AM To: Lincolnshire mailList Subject: [LIN] British Loyalists in American Revolution Hi list, I have some potential missing people before the 1841 census -- particularly around the time of the American Revolution. It had occurred to me that around 1776-1790 there may have been some of my ancestors could have been part of the soldiers who went to America to fight for the Crown as well as those Loyalists on Colonial land who also fought. Does anyone know of any lists for that war... And then there is the War of 1812... Surname: PORTAS and any variation spellings. Any help or leads would be appreciated. Regards, Karen Glass, Illinois LFHS # C6288 http://www.mytuthers.com/myGenealogy/genIntro.htm kglass18@mac.com PORTEOUS DNA Surname Project (includes PORTAS) - http://www.familytreedna.com/public/porteous Researching in: UK--Lincolnshire, Yorkshire; USA--Kansas, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan; CA--Ontario; [includes other spelling variations] PORTEOUS; PORTAS; PORTUS; VAMPLEW; VANPLEW; PATCHETT, ROUSE, FOWLER "Give Peace a Chance" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to my last email, perhaps John ( husband of Sarah) could have been a widower when he married her in1868.? Margaret

Hello again Michael, Checking out John & Mary's children from earlier censuses there was a John son age 15 in 1851 bn Sewston. John is 33 living with wife Sarah ( age 24 bn Hoyland Yks) in 1871 and a Police Constable. However, if Frederick Wm. "is" John's son Sarah would likely have been too young to have had a child in 1864. In fact the only marriage for this couple that is relevant is: Marriages Mar 1868 (>99%) ROYCE John Keighley 9a237 Trout Sarah Keighley 9a237 This ties in with ages of children in 1871 SO I wonder if indeed Frederick Wm. "could" be an illegitimate son of one of John & Mary's daughters- (Mary age 12 & Ann who is age 10 in 1851, neither of who are living at home in 1871) Speculation of course. Births Sep 1863 (>99%) ROYCE Frederick William Melton M 7a227 Good hunting Margaret ( Toronto) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wells" <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: Yet another ROYCE Hello again from NZ This would probably be easy if I were a millionaire to buy all the registrations of missing twigs on my wife's family tree!! I'm not!! I have found Frederick William ROYCE in every census after his birth in 1864, what I want to know is "Who are his parents?". According to the 1871 census he was born in Sewstern, Leics but was living as a grandson with John & Mary ROYCE in the White Horse Inn, High St., Colsterworth, Lincs. In 1881 he was a groom for the HEAVENS in the High St., Colsterworth; thereafter in the police in Middlesex. Thanks Mike

Minus Charles, the family is still in Osbournby in 1871. RG10/3353 folio 78 page 19 Charles, listed as grandson, is also still in Osbournby RG10/3353 folio 72 page 8 with grandparents Thomas and Ann Handley on the previous page. If you're using FMP and searching using birthplaces in the 1871 then you will get a nil return. For some reason the birthplaces search in 1871 uses only counties, not places. One tip is if someone is missing in say 1871, as in this case, is to try and find them in the following census (in this case 1881). If you can find them in the next census then chances are they didn't emigrate - though some do and come back <g>. Check for any children born in the 'missing' years and their birthplaces. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 03/01/2012 15:26, Cynthias Cottages wrote: > In 1861 census John Parker and his wife Ann live in Osbournby with two > children, Elizabeth and Charles. Not one of them come up in 1871. > Possibility they emigrated? > > > David Parker > > > South Africa. > > > > > > > > >

Hi Mike   There is a Mary Royce who married John Alford in the December quarter of 1866 - Grantham, which includes North Witham.  Found this on Freebmd.   Regards, Pat     Patricia R McCrory Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk             ________________________________ From: Michael Wells <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: "eng-lincsgen-l@rootsweb.com" <eng-lincsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 17:29 Subject: [LIN] Jan topic Mary ROYCE Yet another ROYCE from Lincs (and NZ!) Mary ROYCE was born in North Witham in 1838 to John & Mary.  She is with them in 1841 & 1851 in Sewstern Leics., then disappears. There isn't a death or marriage for a Mary ROYCE in either Melton Mowbray (Sewstern) on Grantham (North Witham) that I can see. Any help gratefully received, thanks Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello David   There is a John F Parker and his wife Ann which match the criteria you have given.  Elizabeth is there too along with quite a few siblings although Charles isn't there.  It's on Piece 3353, Folio 78, Page 19 Patricia R McCrory Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk             ________________________________ From: Cynthias Cottages <cyncots@lando.co.za> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 15:26 Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: January. John Parker   In 1861 census John Parker and his wife Ann live in Osbournby  with two   children, Elizabeth and Charles. Not one of them come up in 1871.   Possibility they emigrated?     David Parker     South Africa.   On 2012/01/02 12:17 PM, PJHansen13@aol.com wrote: January theme for list members:  We are going to help you find  lost souls in the census.  Tell us who disappears in 1871, for example,  and our detectives will hunt them down and report their whereabouts.  We'll also give you the piece number, the folio and page number so that you  can find them yourselves if you don't believe us.  Remember, we can't  send a copy of the page to the list because attachments aren't  allowed. ======= I would appreciate it very much if someone could find George Norris  Lineham, the son of Thomas and Elizabeth.  George was baptized Christmas  Eve o f 1836 in Metheringham.  I am missing census records for 1841 and  1851.  An older sister, Mary, was baptized there on 23 Feb 1834.  Since their parents were married in 1820, I strongly suspect that there were  other children before Mary, and possibly after George. I do not have any of the census records for their father, Thomas  Lineham who was baptized in Kirton In Holland on 28 Dec 1795.  Thomas and  Elizabeth were married in Timberland on 4 July 1820. So those that I am looking for are additional children of Thomas and  Elizabeth.  Logically there should be additional children.  I have  seen MANY variations in the spelling of the surname, many of which I have  thought impossible, but then the children in the records match up with the  records tha t George's wife wrote down and gave to my grandmother for future  reference. I understand that at least part of the time George was referred to as  Norris.  According to the archives in London the family had been in  Lincolnshire since at least the early 1600's. Anything you might find would be welcomed.         Patricia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@root sweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1861 census John Parker and his wife Ann live in Osbournby with two children, Elizabeth and Charles. Not one of them come up in 1871. Possibility they emigrated? David Parker South Africa. On 2012/01/02 12:17 PM, PJHansen13@aol.com wrote: January theme for list members: We are going to help you find lost souls in the census. Tell us who disappears in 1871, for example, and our detectives will hunt them down and report their whereabouts. We'll also give you the piece number, the folio and page number so that you can find them yourselves if you don't believe us. Remember, we can't send a copy of the page to the list because attachments aren't allowed. ======= I would appreciate it very much if someone could find George Norris Lineham, the son of Thomas and Elizabeth. George was baptized Christmas Eve o f 1836 in Metheringham. I am missing census records for 1841 and 1851. An older sister, Mary, was baptized there on 23 Feb 1834. Since their parents were married in 1820, I strongly suspect that there were other children before Mary, and possibly after George. I do not have any of the census records for their father, Thomas Lineham who was baptized in Kirton In Holland on 28 Dec 1795. Thomas and Elizabeth were married in Timberland on 4 July 1820. So those that I am looking for are additional children of Thomas and Elizabeth. Logically there should be additional children. I have seen MANY variations in the spelling of the surname, many of which I have thought impossible, but then the children in the records match up with the records tha t George's wife wrote down and gave to my grandmother for future reference. I understand that at least part of the time George was referred to as Norris. According to the archives in London the family had been in Lincolnshire since at least the early 1600's. Anything you might find would be welcomed. Patricia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@root sweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My wife has ancestors who were Loyalists in New York state.  They were "hounded" out of the state after the American Revolution and moved up into lower Ontario where they were designated as "United Empire Loyalists", so that is a term you can use to search for more information on those folks.  My wife's relatives are also part of the group of Canadians who rebuffed an American invasion in 1814 at Chrysler's Farm.  There used to be an active local history group in the area (near Morrisville), but I have no current contact data.     Lou (list admin.) ________________________________ From: KAREN GLASS <kglass18@mac.com> To: Lincolnshire mailList <ENG-Lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 9:37 AM Subject: [LIN] British Loyalists in American Revolution Hi list, I have some potential missing people before the 1841 census -- particularly around the time of the American Revolution. It had occurred to me that around 1776-1790 there may have been some of my ancestors could have been part of the soldiers who went to America to fight for the Crown as well as those Loyalists on Colonial land who also fought. Does anyone know of any lists for that war...  And then there is the War of 1812... Surname: PORTAS and any variation spellings. Any help or leads would be appreciated. Regards, Karen Glass, Illinois LFHS # C6288 http://www.mytuthers.com/myGenealogy/genIntro.htm kglass18@mac.com PORTEOUS DNA Surname Project (includes PORTAS) - http://www.familytreedna.com/public/porteous Researching in: UK--Lincolnshire, Yorkshire; USA--Kansas, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan; CA--Ontario; [includes other spelling variations] PORTEOUS; PORTAS; PORTUS; VAMPLEW; VANPLEW; PATCHETT, ROUSE, FOWLER "Give Peace a Chance" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message