I know of someone who enquired about joining the library and they let her do so by e-mail - they gave her an access number right away with the official members card to follow. Again she was in Australia. If I remember correctly there are other things you can look at besides the Gale papers, maybe not to do with family research but still interesting! This was about 6 or 7 months ago so they may have changed their membership policy. regards Sandra -----Original Message----- From: Josephine Perkins <scunnybunny1@btinternet.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:10 Subject: [LIN] Newspaper archive access online from outside UK I wondered if anyone had been able to access the Gale newspaper rchive via the Lancashire library website recently from abroad. nformation on this site indicates that it can be done by people utside the UK ( not me I'm asking for a relation) but the website or Lancashire library says you can only join if you are a UK esident with a UK address. Is there any other way of delving into he newspaper archive? hanks, Jo Perkins ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Fantastic??!! What do you think happened there > From: ovington1@sky.com > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:42:12 +0000 > Subject: Re: [LIN] Henry Gask WALKER b1828 Wainfleet, d 1895 Spilsby - where are he and family in 1891?? > > I should have also said I have entered a correction to WALKER > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan If you cannot find someone in the census the best ploy is to enter less detail and look for similarities to your target Some details are more prone to being misread or mistranscribed than others Forenames are more likely to be correct than surnames Ages are usually within a few years of being correct Place of birth can vary enormously and can change the further the person is from home, the County is far more likely to be correct Although in your case it was the birthplace that pinpointed him A search for a Henry born 1829 +/- 1 year in Lincolnshire, using Wainfleet as a keyword finds just one hit in 1891 Coincidentally it also finds him in all other census years except 1841 which only records County of birth (if enumerated in that County) but he appears to show up in Belleau 16 miles from Wainfleet The above does not always work but often does Then there is the use of wildcards Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > I was stupid not to think of trying Walter - but I also always forget about Freecen - it doesn't > get mentioned much, and Mike, I have Borrills on my tree - of hand I don't know where they fit > though. You are both wonderful!RegardsJan

Hi Mike I don't blame you blowing your own trumpet however the main difference is that you are not being paid for it so can take the extra time to check things more thoroughly The main players such as Ancestry have to pay transcribers to get the data out in a reasonable time so do not have that luxury, but there again make far more available online quicker Whilst Freecen may be a more accurate transcription there is errors there too, you can't avoid it I have nothing but admiration for all transcribers paid or otherwise, I am often amazed that so much is correct, rather than the small amount that is not Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello Nivard > > I agree that some of the enumerated details are difficult to read but the > transcribers/checkers for FreeCEN sometimes need a medal for their work. > > The name is transcribed as WALKER on FreeCEN. > > We are still recruiting helpers if anyone is interested in helping to bring > the Census on line for free. > > > Mike Borrill > FreeCEN Vice Chairman > FreeCEN Coordinator > Lincolnshire & Rutland

Hello Nivard I agree that some of the enumerated details are difficult to read but the transcribers/checkers for FreeCEN sometimes need a medal for their work. The name is transcribed as WALKER on FreeCEN. We are still recruiting helpers if anyone is interested in helping to bring the Census on line for free. Mike Borrill FreeCEN Vice Chairman FreeCEN Coordinator Lincolnshire & Rutland -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:18 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Henry Gask WALKER b1828 Wainfleet,d 1895 Spilsby - where are he and family in 1891?? Hi Jan What happened there is what has happened on many thousands of occasions A human got involved <vbg> In this case the schedule was transcribed by persons unknown and they read the name as WALTER which if you look at the page is actually not surprising as that is what it looks like Transcribers do not know every name they come across and have to make a judgment call as to what it might be If you *know* the name is WALKER that is what you might read it as but without prior knowledge the transcriber enters what he things it says The correction I have entered will show up in the searchable index in about a fortnight Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Fantastic??!! What do you think happened there ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janine, There is a lot of information about the poor law on the Lincolnshire Genuki website Poor Law pages - you need also to read about settlement. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorsettlement_cole.html http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorsettlement.html There are no poor law documents for Louth parish, so no chance of finding a settlement examination in Lincolnshire. The removal order is on the Lindsey Quarter Sessions CD, 1819, but there is no examination in the quarter sessions either. Maybe there is more information in the Sculcoates parish deposit. I presume you will need to contact Hull Archives for this. I have no information except what we have found in Lincolnshire. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janine Gall > Sent: 12 January 2012 22:08 > To: Lincolnshire > Subject: [LIN] Removal Order - MARSON > > > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone could give me some information about removal > orders. > > I have a family - JEMIMA wife of FRANCIS MARSON and her two children, > FRANCIS WILLIAM and CLARA, receiving a removal order to Sculcoates in the > East Riding of the County of York from Louth. Would this be because the > family was destitute and originally came from Sculcoates? Would they have > been sent back and have to find somewhere to live themselves or would they > have been put into a Poor House, if so where would I find the records for > this? > > Thanks Janine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan What happened there is what has happened on many thousands of occasions A human got involved <vbg> In this case the schedule was transcribed by persons unknown and they read the name as WALTER which if you look at the page is actually not surprising as that is what it looks like Transcribers do not know every name they come across and have to make a judgment call as to what it might be If you *know* the name is WALKER that is what you might read it as but without prior knowledge the transcriber enters what he things it says The correction I have entered will show up in the searchable index in about a fortnight Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Fantastic??!! What do you think happened there

I should have also said I have entered a correction to WALKER Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Look familiar <g> > > 1891 England Census about Henry G Walter > Name: Henry G Walter > Age: 62 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 > Relation: Head > Spouse's Name: Betsy Walter > Gender: Male > Where born: Wainfleet, Lincolnshire, England > Civil parish: Great Steeping

Look familiar <g> 1891 England Census about Henry G Walter Name: Henry G Walter Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Betsy Walter Gender: Male Where born: Wainfleet, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Great Steeping Ecclesiastical parish: Great Steeping Town: Great Steeping County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Spilsby Sub-registration district: Spilsby ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2603 Folio: 12 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Henry G Walter 62 Betsy Walter 60 Ella Walter 22 Louisa Walter 20 William Simpson 37 Mary Simpson 34 Kathleen Simpson 2 Winifield M Simpson 10/12 RG12; Piece: 2603; Folio 12; Page 4; GSU roll: 6097713. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I cannot for the life of me find these people in 1891, but those still alive are there in 1901. > And in 1881 there is a Susan J Walker b 1871, but in 1871 there is a Louisa Jane Walker b 1871 - > and I can find neither in 1891. In 1901 Louisa is living with her mother in Skegness, Henry has > died and still no Susan - would the parents have changed her name - or the census taker had his > ming on other things?Appreciate any thoughts.RegardsJanPottsville NSW Australia

Sorry, I think I sent this orignally to the wrong address?RegardsJan From: janmoon52@hotmail.com To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Rhoda TATON b 1708 Scotter, Lincs and Sarah GASK abt 1765 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:30:07 +1100 I pretty sure that this lady was my relative's mother, but can't find any proof. John WALKER b 1759 Friskney m 02 Feb 1786 Sarah GASK b abt 1765 or before in Lincs - no idea where. Their youngest son, Henry Gask WALKER m 21 Feb 1827 Susannah BOOTH b 1810 Belleau, daughter of George BOOTH (1779-1854) and Frances JOHNSON (1784-1861) So I think John's parents were Robert Walker (perhaps b 1710 Metheringham) and Rhoda TATON b 1708 Scotter Lincs - but how do I prove it?? And how do I find Sarah's parents? Or have I gone as far as I am going to? Regards Jan

Hi Nivard I have seen this once before in a Non-conformist register: It was a list of those accepted in the church or chapel rather than specifically "baptismal entries" and no parents were given. jay On 10/01/2012 22:01, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> Dear all >> >> Just checking a few long standing ones I have stuck on in the past to see if anything had come up recently >> >> I don't think I have seen this entry before but why no parent(s) >> >> Anyone any knowledge of the above please? >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Renee & Pam, Now what do I do I have TWO ladies giving me alternate advice! I can't agree that the 1911 appears shows SlenningFORD (IMO it ends in "lane" - no last character with an upwards stroke!). Regarding 1871 I believe it "could" be Sterming or Stenning because there is currently a Steyning Lane, which has a Steyning House in it (The "hose is actually for sale - see http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/steyning-house/steyning-lane/swineshead/bos ton/pe20-3hz/18162097 I wonder if someone currently or recently resident I or lives/ed in or close to Swineshead might know. Alternatively the local government body would surely know. Because Francis & Anna Maria DAVISON & family are just a "twig" I won't be spending much more time on resolving this but it has been bugging me! Thanks to all that have offered help so far! Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Renee Redshaw Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:56 PM Hello Peter, The following are from the 1871 an 1911 census:- 1871 Address: Sterming Road Parish Swineshead Reg.District Boston 1911 Address: Slenningford Swineshead Reg District Boston Sub District Kirton Civil Parish Swineshead The above is very clear as I used the Printer Friendly version to make a print of the census transcript.

Thanks for the suggestion about the name and also "the tip". When I look at the t in the word daughter the person filling that in and the address did not cross the t! Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Downes Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2012 10:42 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] DAVISON family in 1911 in Swineshead It seems to be Stenning Lane. A tip for 1911 if you can't read your ancestor's writing, is to click on 'list' in the enumerators book images' which on FMP are at the top of the image page. The enumerator's writing of the address will possibly be a little more legible. <g> Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 11/01/2012 14:26, Peter HOLMES wrote: > Last weekend I decided to work on the minimal range of papers regarding my > DAVISON ancestors and its not been easy! (So many people in the same areas > with the same given names at the same time - but are not part of my family > units and of course the surname has many variations - the D gets included or > the I gets replaced by an E just to name a couple. > > > > I have a Frances DAVISON born to John& Alice in Winceby in about 1823-25 > but Francis was a very common name with the DAVISONs in the area so its hard > to track him in the 1841 census, but being about 19 he could have been > working/living away from home. He's returned to his parents in 1851 (Welton > le Marsh) but working as a house servant in 1861 in Lincoln I think. (The > census reference is RG9/2361 page 24 for St Peter in (what looks like) East > something parish, city of Lincoln, upper ward. > > > > Can anyone work out where it is? > > > > However, in 3rd qtr 1863 I believe he married Anna Maria SHARMAN in Boston > RD Vol 4a page 563. > > > > In 1871 he and Annie Maria are living in Swineshead with their daughter > Alice born about 1866 in Swineshead. > > > > By 1911 he has passed away and widow Anna Maria is sharing possibly the same > home as above with unmarried 44 y/o Alice - a dressmaker. > > > > The street address in both 1871 and 1911 is very difficult to read but > someone out there with local knowledge or a local street map (current or > contemporary) might clarify what I think is Slenning Lane? > > > > Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > > > Peter Holmes > > Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes > > [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then > Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. > [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire& Nottinghamshire)] [FREER > (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT& WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N& S Kyme, N& S > Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada > & some in New York& Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless > stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). > > > > > ------------------------------- > > -- Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Peter, The following are from the 1871 an 1911 census:- 1871 Address: Sterming Road Parish Swineshead Reg.District Boston 1911 Address: Slenningford Swineshead Reg District Boston Sub District Kirton Civil Parish Swineshead The above is very clear as I used the Printer Friendly version to make a print of the census transcript. Renee By 1911 he has passed away and widow Anna Maria is sharing possibly the same home as above with unmarried 44 y/o Alice - a dressmaker. The street address in both 1871 and 1911 is very difficult to read but someone out there with local knowledge or a local street map (current or contemporary) might clarify what I think is Slenning Lane?

I pretty sure that this lady was my relative's mother, but can't find any proof. John WALKER b 1759 Friskney m 02 Feb 1786 Sarah GASK b abt 1765 or before in Lincs - no idea where. Their youngest son, Henry Gask WALKER m 21 Feb 1827 Susannah BOOTH b 1810 Belleau, daughter of George BOOTH (1779-1854) and Frances JOHNSON (1784-1861) So I think John's parents were Robert Walker (perhaps b 1710 Metheringham) and Rhoda TATON b 1708 Scotter Lincs - but how do I prove it??And how do I find Sarah's parents? Or have I gone as far as I am going to?RegardsJan

I cannot for the life of me find these people in 1891, but those still alive are there in 1901. And in 1881 there is a Susan J Walker b 1871, but in 1871 there is a Louisa Jane Walker b 1871 - and I can find neither in 1891. In 1901 Louisa is living with her mother in Skegness, Henry has died and still no Susan - would the parents have changed her name - or the census taker had his ming on other things?Appreciate any thoughts.RegardsJanPottsville NSW Australia

One must remember that the census is not 100% perfect.  Some people then had a fear of government knowing too much about them (Know anyone like that now?).  And I am amazed at people today who don't know where they were born.  They remember growing up some place, but it may not have been their place of birth.  Same then. If you fill in a census form and put all the kids down as born in the same place, that's what the enumerator will record.  If you're embarrassed because you are not married to the other adult in the house, you can always mark "married", no one will punish you.  Besides, all this was supposed to be confidential.  Women, I notice, often only aged 8 or 9 years between each 10 year census.  Men apparently never knew how old they were.  And since "adoption" wasn't a legal entity back in the 1800s, whose kids are those? If you find a census entry that is 100% accurate, just thank your lucky stars.     Lou (list admin.) ________________________________ From: Jan Moon <janmoon52@hotmail.com> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: [LIN] Henry Gask WALKER b1828 Wainfleet, d 1895 Spilsby - where are he and family in 1891?? I cannot for the life of me find these people in 1891, but those still alive are there in 1901. And in 1881 there is a Susan J Walker b 1871,  but in 1871 there is a Louisa Jane Walker b 1871 - and I can find neither in 1891. In 1901 Louisa is living with her mother in Skegness, Henry has died and still no Susan - would the parents have changed her name - or the census taker had his ming on other things?Appreciate any thoughts.RegardsJanPottsville NSW Australia                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jay I have seen this where the person being accepted into the church was older, ie 14 or so and above but not for a new born child I have not had the chance to look further at this with the new London electoral rolls but will try and do so in a few days Thanks for your reply though, always appreciated Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > > I have seen this once before in a Non-conformist register: It was a list > of those accepted in the church or chapel rather than specifically > "baptismal entries" and no parents were given. > > jay

Hi Jan, It probably doesn't connect to your Sarah Gask, but I discovered a couple of years ago that I have several GASH families in this same general area of Lincolnshire, including two Sarah GASH. If you haven't tried FreeReg transcriptions, found on the Rootsweb.com home page, it is a very good source, and often has information that includes very early years, as well as details not included in other records. The FIND MY PAST site, available at LDS Family History Centers, with no subscription fee, also has extensive records online, including details, not often found otherwise. These work well for me, as we live in USA with no chance of getting to England to check out local records. Generally, if the records are available, you can sometimes get back to the 1600s, or a bit earlier, for England, Wales and Scotland. Wishing you great discoveries. Susan E On 1/12/2012 3:52 AM, Jan Moon wrote:

Mick, Would these lists be limited to C of E parishes? A lot of the DAVISON people were nonconformist which could explain why I've had a low success rate on searches. However, every so often I do find something helpful. Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mick Claxton Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2012 8:20 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] John DAVISON b 1778 & his wife Alice UNKNOWN To date there are over 2 million entries for Lincolnshire on the FreeReg website. The FreeBMD project is close to completion now and most volunteers will hopefully carry on transcribing for FreeReg. Once that happens i expect a substantial increase in the number of Lincolnshire records we have online.