Hi Anne Many thanks. Still looking PG -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Joseph Gee of Long sutton Long Sutton = Sutton St Mary. Lutton = Sutton St Nicholas! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gee > Sent: 19 January 2012 16:04 > To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Joseph Gee of Long sutton > > Hi all > > > > Joseph was born in about 1800. He was married to Maria. Can find no trace > of his baptism in (Lutton) or marriage and accordingly of the previous > generation. > > > > Any help would be gratefully received. > > > > Sorry and thanks > > > > Peter Gee (G/Grand Son) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Long Sutton = Sutton St Mary. Lutton = Sutton St Nicholas! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gee > Sent: 19 January 2012 16:04 > To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Joseph Gee of Long sutton > > Hi all > > > > Joseph was born in about 1800. He was married to Maria. Can find no trace > of his baptism in (Lutton) or marriage and accordingly of the previous > generation. > > > > Any help would be gratefully received. > > > > Sorry and thanks > > > > Peter Gee (G/Grand Son) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Hello lincs, Many thanks to John R, Phil and June for their prompt and helpful replies. I will follow up the links tout de suite. Regards Alan

Hi all Joseph was born in about 1800. He was married to Maria. Can find no trace of his baptism in (Lutton) or marriage and accordingly of the previous generation. Any help would be gratefully received. Sorry and thanks Peter Gee (G/Grand Son)

I am looking for any Quickfalls in the world Bev on Bribie Island

There used to be a lot of Quickfalls in Glanford Brigg when I grew up there about 48 years ago. Don't live there now so don't know if there are nay now. Hope this helps Jenny Revell ----- Original Message ----- From: "J & B.H. Stegeman" <beverley.stegeman@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:51 AM Subject: [LIN] Quickfall I am looking for any Quickfalls in the world Bev on Bribie Island

Hullo AlanTry this link http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1850-01-01/1899-12-31?basicsearch=%20bacchus%20hotel&frontpage=false&county=lincolnshire%2c%20england&region=east%20midlands%2c%20england John > From: alanbooth170@btinternet.com > To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:57:36 +0000 > Subject: [LIN] Jolly Bacchus Hotel, Sutton > > Hello Lincs, > > The 1892 Kellys - Commercial section on page 467 refers to the Bacchus Hotel > (Mrs Rebecca Simons, proprietress) and says "see advert". Does anyone have a > copy showing the advertisement for the hotel please who could email the > image to me. > > Many thanks > > Alan Booth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alan, Try this one, but you have to take out a subscription, not free. http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1850-01-01/1899-12-31?basicsearch=ingamells&frontpage=false&county=lincolnshire%2c%20england&region=east%20midlands%2c%20england John > From: alanbooth170@btinternet.com > To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:52:16 +0000 > Subject: [LIN] Sutton on Sea Newspaper > > Hello Lincs, > > My Lincolnshire interests are SIMONS, INGAMELLS and SANDY families, of > Sutton, Boston, Willoughby and local villages. Tried to find info on them > through British Lib. Newspaper site but no luck so far. Which newspaper > would be appropriate for the period 1860 to 1940 please ? > > Regards > > Alan Booth > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone My ggrandfather, Thomas BRUMPTON, had a son prior to his marriage in 1872. I have the birth and baptism of Robert BRUMPTON born September 1870 in Louth District. He was baptised on the day he was born, which perhaps could indicate he was not expected to live. However, I have no record of his mother's name or his death. My ggrandmother, who married Thomas in early 1872, was at home with her mother and siblings in the 1871 census. There are several possible marriages and deaths for Robert BRUMPTON on FreeBMD but it's hard to know whether any of them apply to this particular Robert and I do not wish to pay for certificates for them all to find out birth details. Is there any way I can find out more about him? Regards Jan Marchant Australia

have you checked FreeReg Lins Webpage For QUICKFALL There are 68 listed Since you haven't Listed any year or Forenames no one can help you in Lincolnshire on the Lins Web Page at eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Bill Stratton ----- Original Message ----- From: "J & B.H. Stegeman" <beverley.stegeman@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:51 AM Subject: [LIN] Quickfall >I am looking for any Quickfalls in the world > Bev on Bribie Island > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Lincs, The 1892 Kellys - Commercial section on page 467 refers to the Bacchus Hotel (Mrs Rebecca Simons, proprietress) and says "see advert". Does anyone have a copy showing the advertisement for the hotel please who could email the image to me. Many thanks Alan Booth

Hello Lincs, My Lincolnshire interests are SIMONS, INGAMELLS and SANDY families, of Sutton, Boston, Willoughby and local villages. Tried to find info on them through British Lib. Newspaper site but no luck so far. Which newspaper would be appropriate for the period 1860 to 1940 please ? Regards Alan Booth

You are correct in assuming that a baptism on the day of birth would imply that at least one of the parents feared for the child's life.  It would be an unusual event, although not unknown.  The large majority of baptisms were anywhere from three days to six weeks after the birth.  But sometimes baptism was delayed until the father got back from a long fishing trip or a job outside the area.  On this list we've seen children baptised in "batches"  in some families, presumably because the parents waited until they could get their families together for the event. Alas, we still see newbies to the hobby who list a baptism date as a birth date, which can cause them problems with later research.  The IGI used to be full of "guesses" at birthdates.  A guess is something you want to avoid.  But some people did it because old genealogy programs didn't allow seperate dates for birth, baptism and christening, three different events in the life of a child (baptism and christening are often combined).     Lou (list admin.) ________________________________ From: John & Jan Marchant <jjmarchant@optusnet.com.au> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: [LIN] Death Record Query Hi Everyone My ggrandfather, Thomas BRUMPTON, had a son prior to his marriage in 1872. I have the birth and baptism of Robert BRUMPTON born September 1870 in Louth District. He was baptised on the day he was born, which perhaps could indicate he was not expected to live. However, I have no record of his mother's name or his death. My ggrandmother, who married Thomas in early 1872, was at home with her mother and siblings in the 1871 census. There are several possible marriages and deaths for Robert BRUMPTON on FreeBMD but it's hard to know whether any of them apply to this particular Robert and I do not wish to pay for certificates for them all to find out birth details. Is there any way I can find out more about him? Regards Jan Marchant Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan If you have the birth and baptism, surely it states the mothers name? Perhaps its the way I am reading it But otherwise how do you know he was born and baptised the same day and to which father? Looking at the GRO index there is only one Robert BRUMPTON birth registered 1870 and that in Louth Births Sep 1870 Brumpton Robert Louth 7a 566 In the 1871 census there are two Robert BRUMPTONs born 1870 +/- 1 year , one is the son of Charles & Frances born Donnington on Bain which is in the Louth Registration District, the other John & Sarah (who is probably registered as John Robert) Using the birth year of 1870 +/- 5 years there are only two deaths post 1915 (the pre 1915 do not appear to match at all) England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Robert Brumpton Name: Robert Brumpton Birth Date: abt 1871 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1946 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Buckrose Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 61 England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Robert Brumpton Name: Robert Brumpton Birth Date: abt 1874 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947 Age at Death: 73 Registration district: Rotherham Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2c Page: 834 The first seems more likely You could try the birth certificate by ordering with no GRO index reference and stipulate the father as Robert, if it matches they will send the cert, if it does not they will not charge The death cert may not give you sufficient information to know its your man as they do not contain birth details except age at death, which may or may not be accurate Ahh, just found an 1891 census for a Robert BROUMPTON age 19 born Donington on Bain he is a *servant* of a Thomas and Ellen BRUMPTON , is that where you are finding the reference? As he is not enumerated as a son, but a servant, so a son of another family member perhaps ? In 1911 there is a Robert BRUMPTON in Driffield ERY married to a Mary Ann , they were married 10 years The most likely marriage is England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Robert Brumpton Name: Robert Brumpton Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901 Registration district: Hull Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 413 England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Barr Name: Mary Ann Barr Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901 Registration district: Hull Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 413 You would need the cert to make sure who he enters as his father The above Robert appears as the son of Charles in 1881 (who appears to have remarried to a Sarah Elizabeth after 1871) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Everyone > > My ggrandfather, Thomas BRUMPTON, had a son prior to his marriage in 1872. I > have the birth and baptism of Robert BRUMPTON born September 1870 in Louth > District. He was baptised on the day he was born, which perhaps could > indicate he > was not expected to live. However, I have no record of his mother's name or > his death. My ggrandmother, who married Thomas in early 1872, was at home > with her mother and siblings in the 1871 census. There are several possible > marriages and deaths for Robert BRUMPTON on FreeBMD but it's hard to know > whether any of them apply to this particular Robert and I do not wish to pay > for certificates for them all to find out birth details. Is there any way I > can find out more about him? > > Regards > > Jan Marchant > Australia

Have you tried the Guild for One Name Studies; GOONS? On 19 January 2012 04:51, J & B.H. Stegeman <beverley.stegeman@bigpond.com>wrote: > I am looking for any Quickfalls in the world > Bev on Bribie Island > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. Member of: - E. Surrey Family History Society ) And in http://www.eastsurreyfhs.org.uk/ ) very Lincolnshire Family History Society ) good http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ ) company.

Although I have brumptons in my tree, they are much earlier, but I will pass this on to someone who may know Regards Fiona On Thursday, 19 January 2012, John &amp; Jan Marchant < jjmarchant@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > My ggrandfather, Thomas BRUMPTON, had a son prior to his marriage in 1872. I > have the birth and baptism of Robert BRUMPTON born September 1870 in Louth > District. He was baptised on the day he was born, which perhaps could > indicate he > was not expected to live. However, I have no record of his mother's name or > his death. My ggrandmother, who married Thomas in early 1872, was at home > with her mother and siblings in the 1871 census. There are several possible > marriages and deaths for Robert BRUMPTON on FreeBMD but it's hard to know > whether any of them apply to this particular Robert and I do not wish to pay > for certificates for them all to find out birth details. Is there any way I > can find out more about him? > > Regards > > Jan Marchant > Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Regards, Fiona Sent from iPad

Mick & Andrew, I had seen the Ann COLE entry several days ago, but disregarded it possibly because the information that I had elsewhere did not correlate! Thanks for your assistance. Now to discover when they died! Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Fisher Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 3:14 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] William DAVISON born 1829+/- & his wives and child(ren) Peter, I think this might be who you're looking for. Family Search for marriages in Mareham le Fen 1850 to 1860 groom's name: William Davison groom's birth date: 1830 groom's age: 24 bride's name: Ann Cole bride's birth date: 1827 bride's age: 27 marriage date: 16 May 1854 marriage place: Mareham-Le-Fen, Lincoln, England groom's father's name: Samuel Davison bride's father's name: Francis Cole groom's marital status: Single bride's marital status: Single indexing project (batch) number: M03223-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1541963 Andrew

Peter, I think this might be who you're looking for. Family Search for marriages in Mareham le Fen 1850 to 1860 groom's name: William Davison groom's birth date: 1830 groom's age: 24 bride's name: Ann Cole bride's birth date: 1827 bride's age: 27 marriage date: 16 May 1854 marriage place: Mareham-Le-Fen, Lincoln, England groom's father's name: Samuel Davison bride's father's name: Francis Cole groom's marital status: Single bride's marital status: Single indexing project (batch) number: M03223-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1541963 Andrew -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter HOLMES Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:36 To: Lincolnshire new Subject: [LIN] William DAVISON born 1829+/- & his wives and child(ren) G'day from Perth, Still working through the DAVISON line with heaps of similar given names for actual and not applicable links - just to make it harder! William DAVISON was born in about 1829 in Orby (shown in 1851 census as Ilby) to Samuel and Jane DAVISON. Who was his first wife? (her vitals would also be useful to know). When did she die? In 1851 census William is 21 y/o coachman to the Mareham le Fen church. Shortly afterwards he married (I assume). In about 1856 son Francis was born. Between birth and the 1861 census William was widowed & Francis was 5 In 1861 census 30 y/o William and Francis were living with his parents in Mareham Le Fen On 23 May 1865 William married again to Ann KEAL 45 spinster/unmarried mother of Susan of Mareham le Fen. In 1871 census he is living married with Ann and her daughter Susan and Ann's unmarried brother John KEAL. Numerous searches of Ancestry and Freereg produce nothing conclusive because of the preponderance of William DAVISON names in the surrounding area. As yet I've not really looked for the 1881 etc census and for deaths of William & Ann. Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Peter. The Mareham Le Fen baptism register for 1847 onwards has still to be deposited with Lincolnshire Archives so i've taken a more round about route. >From the FreeReg website , there is a burial in Mareham le Fen on April 7th 1858 for Ann DAVISON age 31. ( on February 10th 1858 there is also a burial for William George DAVISON infant- this particular burial will be uploaded onto the website later today) . Probably linking in to this is a marriage in Mareham le Fen on May 16th 1854 of William DAVISON age 24 of Mareham and Ann COLE age 27 of Mareham. Groom and brides fathers were Samuel DAVISON and Francis COLE. Mick

G'day from Perth, Still working through the DAVISON line with heaps of similar given names for actual and not applicable links - just to make it harder! William DAVISON was born in about 1829 in Orby (shown in 1851 census as Ilby) to Samuel and Jane DAVISON. Who was his first wife? (her vitals would also be useful to know). When did she die? In 1851 census William is 21 y/o coachman to the Mareham le Fen church. Shortly afterwards he married (I assume). In about 1856 son Francis was born. Between birth and the 1861 census William was widowed & Francis was 5 In 1861 census 30 y/o William and Francis were living with his parents in Mareham Le Fen On 23 May 1865 William married again to Ann KEAL 45 spinster/unmarried mother of Susan of Mareham le Fen. In 1871 census he is living married with Ann and her daughter Susan and Ann's unmarried brother John KEAL. Numerous searches of Ancestry and Freereg produce nothing conclusive because of the preponderance of William DAVISON names in the surrounding area. As yet I've not really looked for the 1881 etc census and for deaths of William & Ann. Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch).