Perhaps he means in this area, I did notice there were a lot of KNILL's in Devon which at present don't seem to be connected, so we will see what the future holds. Gillian -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 04 February 2012 15:47 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Query about a Will Hi Gillian I would be highly surprised if he is the last male KNILL There are quite a few male births registered in the GRO and unless they all died very young I suspect there are more out there Perhaps he found his was the only name in the electoral roll or telephone books but as many people are ex-directory or opt out of the public ER there are probably more but not listed publicly and then there are those below voting age Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Many thanks, Rob KNILL will be very chuffed with the information, he has only just started researching his family and comes into us at Oswestry library for help. Apparently he is the last male KNILL in the UK. I will see if he wants to go forward with applying for the letters of administration as it may be helpful as we are lacking a death/burial. Thanks again, Gillian Fynes ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4786 - Release Date: 02/03/12

I am working on the will of Catherine Johnson of Beckingham, Lincolnshire,  dated 1737 and sworn 1739 and I would be very happy to share my interim conclusions. I know Catherine married to Robert JOHNSON and they had eight children in the period 1688 - 1716. I am looking for: 1. The marriage of Catherine to Robert JOHNSON (baptised Beckingham 1664) about 1688. 2. The baptisms of sons John and Richard, and daughter Catherine JOHNSON (in the period 1688 - 1720) at Beckingham ( I have the others). Other surnames in the will include: LAMB, BAKER, WADESON and SMITH. Any help/suggestions would be very much appreciated. Clive Boyce

Old Occupations website: http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/n-o.html#O Margaret Taylor ( Toronto ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Ellis" <ellis-b@sky.com> To: <ENG-LINCSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: [Bulk] [LIN] Oil Miller > Hello > Can anyone tell me what the occupation Oil Crusher on the 1891 census > would > be, or an Oil Miller which was in the parish register. > Thank you > Brenda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4789 - Release Date: 02/04/12 >

Sorry to falsely raise your hopes of a connection! Woolley seems quite a common name in the East Midlands. Personally, I would never put living individuals on a public tree without their permission. That seems like good manners to me - and that's another piece of advice for Newbies. I'm also reluctant to help those who don't help themselves or don't respect the subject properly. But those who pass the "attitude test" are more than welcome to share. I've recently sent masses of info to someone with a genuine interest. The person operates on much the same as principle as me and we both gained. One good contact is worth countless bad ones. Phil Crouch On 03/02/2012 17:27, Lynn Musselwhite wrote: > Well that was interesting, reading about your connection ( or not) to > Albert Woolley carpenter of Bourne, My mother in law was a Woolley of the > carpenters of Bourne!! Incidentally it was NOT me who added you, but hello > anyway! > > Lynn

Gosh, that's almost as bad as the Ballad of Mr Shot and Mr Nott (Shot shot Nott, but Shot was not shot etc. etc.). Nothing is mentioned about place of work, just the machine is mentioned as belonging to Mr Shelton, and the inquest was taken at Grantham town hall. I did wonder about a theatre myself, but maybe that was just the mention of a stage. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk _____ From: elaine westaway [mailto:laneywest1960@yahoo.com] Sent: 04 February 2012 17:04 To: duncalf@one-name.org Subject: Re: [LIN] Mr Shelton's "up and down" machine if not in a theatre here is another possibility An up-and-down swing mechanism for separated heald frames of a sample fabrics machine, which includes a plurality of heald frames fitted to a sample fabrics machine. A lower end of each of the heald frames is respectively fitted with a clutch and a swing arm, and controlling a portion of the clutches to engage/separate from the swing arms causes two swing arms to swing/not swing, which then drive a portion of the heald frames to enable up and down swing/no swing thereof through two transmission arms, thereby weaving the required fabric according to the style of sample fabric to be produced. Elaine Westaway From: Anne Cole <duncalf@one-name.org> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2012, 16:43 Subject: [LIN] Mr Shelton's "up and down" machine Has anyone ever heard of this? There is nothing on google so it is probably local. It was the cause of death of someone in Grantham in 1856. Apparently he stood on a stage to turn the handle of the machine, his hand slipped and he was pitched head foremost to the ground below. The jury recommended that the a guard be put round the stage. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I took some time off from the Library during January but began again last week. As there was only one bastardy case in the newspapers I looked at last week I held it over to this week, which was full of the assizes so only two more found! LRSM = Lincoln, Rutland and Stamford Mercury Full details from the newspaper are given below; I have no further information. LRSM 29 February 1856 Lincoln City Petty Session 23 February Geo. ALLEN, a clerk in the telegraph office, was ordered to pay 2s. weekly towards the support of the illegitimate child of Sarah SMITH. Mr. ROBERTS appeared for the complainant, and Mr. TOYNBEE for the defendant. LRSM 14 March 1856 Spittlegate Petty Sessions 7 March Jane WILKINSON appeared for an order of affiliation upon Hy. WINN, of Old Radford. Order by consent of 2s. 6d. per week. Costs £1. 8s. 6d. Boston Petty Sessions 5 March An order was made upon Wm. PARKER, of Frampton, for payment of 1s. 6d. per week and £1. 4s. 6d. costs towards the maintenance of an illegitimate child belonging to Eliz. BEECHAM, of Kirton. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

Has anyone ever heard of this? There is nothing on google so it is probably local. It was the cause of death of someone in Grantham in 1856. Apparently he stood on a stage to turn the handle of the machine, his hand slipped and he was pitched head foremost to the ground below. The jury recommended that the a guard be put round the stage. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

thank you again, anne: that PARKER was close, but no cigar - however I'll look for my rev Parker in frampton now. thanks sorry, my keyboard is worn out so doesn't do caps any longer. will get a new one soon. best wishes - carol On 2/4/12, Anne Cole <duncalf@one-name.org> wrote: > LRSM = Lincoln, Rutland and Stamford Mercury > > Full details from the newspaper are given below; I have no further > information. > > LRSM 29 February 1856 > > > LRSM 14 March 1856 > > Boston Petty Sessions 5 March > An order was made upon Wm. PARKER, of Frampton, for payment of 1s. 6d. per > week and £1. 4s. 6d. costs towards the maintenance of an illegitimate child > belonging to Eliz. BEECHAM, of Kirton. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Gillian I would be highly surprised if he is the last male KNILL There are quite a few male births registered in the GRO and unless they all died very young I suspect there are more out there Perhaps he found his was the only name in the electoral roll or telephone books but as many people are ex-directory or opt out of the public ER there are probably more but not listed publicly and then there are those below voting age Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Many thanks, Rob KNILL will be very chuffed with the information, he has only just started researching his family and comes into us at Oswestry library for help. Apparently he is the last male KNILL in the UK. I will see if he wants to go forward with applying for the letters of administration as it may be helpful as we are lacking a death/burial. Thanks again, Gillian Fynes

15th March 1928, Wellington, Colorado. U.S.A. My dearest Mother, I received your last letter quite a while ago but never seemed to get it answered before now. I started over a week ago but had to quit as soon as I started. Thanks ever so much for the four books I got yesterday. It seemed ages since we had any before. How did the "Rich Relation" and the Indian story end up? We missed them. I am thankful to say that ma's leg is all healed up now. She does'nt have to go to the doctor's any more. She gets cramps in her legs quite a bit now tho, otherwise I guess she can generally sleep pretty good nights. I don't think Liza's going makes much difference to the house-work part yet for Nida does wonderfully well. Of course it is harder on ma in the summer time. I'm sure glad that Edith got straightened out and I hope she'll be perfectly alright now. I want to write the poor girl a letter one of these days. I just don't know when I will be able to pay you a visit mother, you know it is quite an expense and its awfully hard to get away. Chances are we might sell out another year and then maybe something will happen I'd sure love to come. Well we have been to three more parties since I wrote you last. We had a surprise party for Rose on her birthday. Liza and mother took cakes and I took milk for the cocoa. We played games and had a good time. Ed was'nt well that night and had to lie down all the time. Both of the children had some kind of sick spell for about three days. They were just burning up with fever and had no appetite. Next we had a surprise party for Mrs Taylor on her birthday. (Mrs Taylor is Rose's mother-in-law). We had cake, ice-cream, pop-corn balls and cocoa, everybody bringing something along you know. We spent the time visiting that night. I was tired, Walt had kalsomined the kitchen this afternoon and we scrubbed the walls, paints and floor and cleaned the windows so you see we had a right to be tired. Last Thursday night we all went to a party up at the folks. It was their fortieth anniversary, wedding, I mean and so we celebrated. We had a good time that night and a lovely lunch consisting of three kinds of sandwiches, strawberry ice-cream cake and cocoa. The men only drank seventy-five bottles of beer, all drunk except Walt he's a pretty good boy. (Please don't mention as usual). On Tuesday of last week we had the dining-room papered. Our landlord will not do anything and we got tired of seeing such dirty walls so we bought the paper and had it put on. It is called "Oriental Garden" and is very pretty paper, costing 47 cents a double roll. I'll mail you a sample of it when I can. I bought some new ruffled curtains and put them up after giving the room a good spring-cleaning. I have only the pantry, clothes closet our bedroom and the back porch to clean. I'll have to work some in the cellar I guess. Well sir, I don't know what the farmers are really going to do here this year. As I have told you, beets are our main crop and it does not look as if we are going to grow any this year. The sugar factory only offers us seven dollars a ton and its impossible to make anything at that price, where you have to hire everything done. Most of these Russians association will not allow their members to grow beets at the price and the sugar factory will not raise it. Do you remember sending me a piece of paper with the prices of beets on it? Well pa got excited about it and he took it to Collins to show around and finally it was put in the paper. If I remember I will send it along. On Wednesday of last week we went to a picture show given by the business men for the farmers. We (or they) talked the matter of the community fair over and then had refreshments, consisting of sandwiches, doughnuts and coffee. We went to the show again last night. It was put on by the Ladies Aid this time. Walt got thru planting his seed wheat yesterday. Late in the afternoon it began to rain a little, finally it turned to snow and its still snowing, so we've had a whole day and night of it. We are all pleased with the snow as we have had no moisture all winter and need it pretty badly. Well, my hens finally decided to lay, and I set a hen yesterday. Walt brought in six eggs today. They're cheaper now, only eighteen or twenty cents a dozen. Well mother, I'll feel lots better now I have got your letter written but I've still got lots to write. I hope you are all well as it leaves us at present. With much love to all and lots for yourself, from "us four" I remain Your loving daughter XXXXX Dolly XXXXX

Dear Nivard & Anne, Many thanks for your reply. I had searched findmypast and got nothing but I googled Chelsea Pensioners and that website came up and the results as you said. Many thanks, Rob KNILL will be very chuffed with the information, he has only just started researching his family and comes into us at Oswestry library for help. Apparently he is the last male KNILL in the UK. I will see if he wants to go forward with applying for the letters of administration as it may be helpful as we are lacking a death/burial. Thanks again, Gillian Fynes -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 03 February 2012 18:26 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Query about a Will Hi Gillian The important word here is Administration This means there was no will So what has happened is that he left property or assets behind which at some point someone needed to sell so the rights to that property needed to be settled by obtaining letters of Administration from the Courts Which James KNILL did in 1892 I do not see an obvious death registration (and obviously neither did the Court) That is not to say he did not die overseas but may simply have gone elsewhere , perhaps changing name Many events for overseas were either never recorded or were and never passed back to the GRO in the UK Unfortunately the copy of the letters of administration are unlikely to tell you any more than you have from the Probate Calendars Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Hi Listers, I have found a listing on Wills & Administrations on Ancestry in 1892 for the below but I have a couple of questions associated with it: How do I find out where he died if he was serving in the Regiment at the time? & Could someone explain how/why the Will has been produced not knowing if the Edwin is dead? "Edwin KNILL of Frydd Terrace, Knighton, Radnorshire private in the first battalion of the Lincolnshire Regiment died on or since 5 March 1875 at --------------------------------------- Administration Hereford 29 Feb 1892 to James KNILL carpenter Effects £39 7s 8d" Many thanks Gillian Fynes ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4784 - Release Date: 02/03/12

Annie was baptised in Gosberton in 1849 , so I guess that made her 62 in 1911. She was the youngest of 9 , 7 girls and 2 boys. The eldest boy being recorded as Imbecile until his death . He was more definite in that classification being described on very census as such, (1851-1901) ,on the last of which it does not look like he is with a family member. He was the eldest son of a farming family. Father, John Cropley died in 1853 when the other brother Thomas was too young to work . Leaving his widow with a the difficult prospect of raising a family that included two children that needed extra care. I imagine it was a difficult time, and perhaps even before the father's death as two of the older girls; Fanny (born Quadring 1830) and Caroline (Quadring 1828) are listed in ten workhouse in 1851 Anne at the workhouse in 1891 and 1901 is clearly not described as an imbecile and yet prior to that by her family, she is and it is very clear. You would think that Annie would have been the easiest to care for after her mother's death but it seems John, was sometimes capable of work ( in 1861 and 1891 he is listed as an agricultural labourer). I am still trying to make sense of it all. Many thanks Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > Also, check Bracebridge Pauper Lunatic Asylum. It is possible she was sent > there, and if she is in there, there are many records existing for the > patients, case histories, all sorts. You didn't give her age, but of > course > she could have been sent out to service if she was not too imbecile. Or, > there are hospitals that the Guardians sent their paupers too, even to > Nottingham (Deaf & Dumb school) and London, and also other institutions > that > took patients who were not fit for asylums, but needed specialist care. I > have someone in a home for epileptics in Liverpool in 1911. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington >> Sent: 04 February 2012 11:02 >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census >> >> Straight to it - thanks Anne >> I could not find her either . >> Annie had been with them since at least 1891, following her mother's >> death. >> She and her brother had both been recorded as imbecile's but her brother >> some how survived in the care of other's. >> If her brother John is anything to measure by, if she was not with the >> workhouse, she will be tricky to find - he was sadly not able to recall >> his >> birth place or date for the later census documents. >> She died and was buried in Sleaford , so I suppose that indicates she did >> at >> least get out of the Workhouse as some point. >> I have to check the other siblings again. >> >> Many thnaks >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> >> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census >> >> >> >I found it quite easily on Ancestry using the browse facility, >> >Lincolnshire, >> > Spalding RD, and the workhouse is usually the last Enumeration >> > District, >> > 10 >> > in this case. The number of the book is 19500 (I use this as the >> > equivalent >> > of the old Piece number). There were only 9 images, only half of which >> > showed names, and the column showing infirmities is still blanked out. >> > >> > Tried, Find My Past, but cannot find it on there, using Pinchbeck Road. >> > There doesn't seem to be any facility on FMP to enter the numerical >> > reference. >> > >> > Anne >> > >> > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society >> > >> > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 >> > >> > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html >> > >> > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index >> > >> > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ >> > >> > Lincolnshire Family History Society >> > >> > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington >> >> Sent: 04 February 2012 10:34 >> >> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census >> >> >> >> Hello lister's >> >> >> >> I am trying to find Annie Cropley (born 1849, Gosberton) on the 1911 >> >> census >> >> of the workhouse on Pinchbeck Road - I am drawing a blank on all >> >> services. >> >> >> >> The work house was still in operation until 1930 I think - so it >> >> should >> >> be >> >> there ? >> >> >> >> Can anyone offer any help. >> >> >> >> Annie died 1929 she I know she is still living then and she spent the >> >> last >> >> two census at least with them. >> >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> Dan Billington >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> (This email, and any attachments, contains proprietary information >> >> some >> >> or >> >> all of which may be confidential and legally privileged. 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And, if you can be patient, we may turn her up in the minutes. At present we have reached the 1840s with the transcribing :-) Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington > Sent: 04 February 2012 11:02 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > > Straight to it - thanks Anne > I could not find her either . > Annie had been with them since at least 1891, following her mother's > death. > She and her brother had both been recorded as imbecile's but her brother > some how survived in the care of other's. > If her brother John is anything to measure by, if she was not with the > workhouse, she will be tricky to find - he was sadly not able to recall > his > birth place or date for the later census documents. > She died and was buried in Sleaford , so I suppose that indicates she did > at > least get out of the Workhouse as some point. > I have to check the other siblings again. > > Many thnaks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > > > >I found it quite easily on Ancestry using the browse facility, > >Lincolnshire, > > Spalding RD, and the workhouse is usually the last Enumeration District, > > 10 > > in this case. The number of the book is 19500 (I use this as the > > equivalent > > of the old Piece number). There were only 9 images, only half of which > > showed names, and the column showing infirmities is still blanked out. > > > > Tried, Find My Past, but cannot find it on there, using Pinchbeck Road. > > There doesn't seem to be any facility on FMP to enter the numerical > > reference. > > > > Anne > > > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington > >> Sent: 04 February 2012 10:34 > >> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > >> > >> Hello lister's > >> > >> I am trying to find Annie Cropley (born 1849, Gosberton) on the 1911 > >> census > >> of the workhouse on Pinchbeck Road - I am drawing a blank on all > >> services. > >> > >> The work house was still in operation until 1930 I think - so it should > >> be > >> there ? > >> > >> Can anyone offer any help. > >> > >> Annie died 1929 she I know she is still living then and she spent the > >> last > >> two census at least with them. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> > >> Dan Billington > >> > >> > >> > >> (This email, and any attachments, contains proprietary information some > >> or > >> all of which may be confidential and legally privileged. 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Also, check Bracebridge Pauper Lunatic Asylum. It is possible she was sent there, and if she is in there, there are many records existing for the patients, case histories, all sorts. You didn't give her age, but of course she could have been sent out to service if she was not too imbecile. Or, there are hospitals that the Guardians sent their paupers too, even to Nottingham (Deaf & Dumb school) and London, and also other institutions that took patients who were not fit for asylums, but needed specialist care. I have someone in a home for epileptics in Liverpool in 1911. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington > Sent: 04 February 2012 11:02 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > > Straight to it - thanks Anne > I could not find her either . > Annie had been with them since at least 1891, following her mother's > death. > She and her brother had both been recorded as imbecile's but her brother > some how survived in the care of other's. > If her brother John is anything to measure by, if she was not with the > workhouse, she will be tricky to find - he was sadly not able to recall > his > birth place or date for the later census documents. > She died and was buried in Sleaford , so I suppose that indicates she did > at > least get out of the Workhouse as some point. > I have to check the other siblings again. > > Many thnaks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > > > >I found it quite easily on Ancestry using the browse facility, > >Lincolnshire, > > Spalding RD, and the workhouse is usually the last Enumeration District, > > 10 > > in this case. The number of the book is 19500 (I use this as the > > equivalent > > of the old Piece number). There were only 9 images, only half of which > > showed names, and the column showing infirmities is still blanked out. > > > > Tried, Find My Past, but cannot find it on there, using Pinchbeck Road. > > There doesn't seem to be any facility on FMP to enter the numerical > > reference. > > > > Anne > > > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington > >> Sent: 04 February 2012 10:34 > >> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > >> > >> Hello lister's > >> > >> I am trying to find Annie Cropley (born 1849, Gosberton) on the 1911 > >> census > >> of the workhouse on Pinchbeck Road - I am drawing a blank on all > >> services. > >> > >> The work house was still in operation until 1930 I think - so it should > >> be > >> there ? > >> > >> Can anyone offer any help. > >> > >> Annie died 1929 she I know she is still living then and she spent the > >> last > >> two census at least with them. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> > >> Dan Billington > >> > >> > >> > >> (This email, and any attachments, contains proprietary information some > >> or > >> all of which may be confidential and legally privileged. 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Straight to it - thanks Anne I could not find her either . Annie had been with them since at least 1891, following her mother's death. She and her brother had both been recorded as imbecile's but her brother some how survived in the care of other's. If her brother John is anything to measure by, if she was not with the workhouse, she will be tricky to find - he was sadly not able to recall his birth place or date for the later census documents. She died and was buried in Sleaford , so I suppose that indicates she did at least get out of the Workhouse as some point. I have to check the other siblings again. Many thnaks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census >I found it quite easily on Ancestry using the browse facility, >Lincolnshire, > Spalding RD, and the workhouse is usually the last Enumeration District, > 10 > in this case. The number of the book is 19500 (I use this as the > equivalent > of the old Piece number). There were only 9 images, only half of which > showed names, and the column showing infirmities is still blanked out. > > Tried, Find My Past, but cannot find it on there, using Pinchbeck Road. > There doesn't seem to be any facility on FMP to enter the numerical > reference. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington >> Sent: 04 February 2012 10:34 >> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census >> >> Hello lister's >> >> I am trying to find Annie Cropley (born 1849, Gosberton) on the 1911 >> census >> of the workhouse on Pinchbeck Road - I am drawing a blank on all >> services. >> >> The work house was still in operation until 1930 I think - so it should >> be >> there ? >> >> Can anyone offer any help. >> >> Annie died 1929 she I know she is still living then and she spent the >> last >> two census at least with them. >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> Dan Billington >> >> >> >> (This email, and any attachments, contains proprietary information some >> or >> all of which may be confidential and legally privileged. It is for the >> intended recipient only. If an addressing or transmission error has >> misdirected this email, please notify the author by replying to this >> email >> and then delete the message and any attachments from your system. If you >> are >> not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy >> or >> print this email. In view of the provisions of the Human Rights Act 1998 >> the >> Directors do not monitor all the firm's outgoing emails. The Directors >> accepts no liability for the contents of emails unconnected with the >> affairs >> of the firm or its clients. Although this email and any attachments have >> been scanned for viruses, the success of scanning products is not >> guaranteed. The recipient (s) should therefore carry out any checks that >> they believe to be appropriate in this respect.) >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the >> subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 'full' reference of the workhouse is RG14PN19500 RD413 SD4 ED10 SN9999, but although I have (allegedly <g>) checked both the transcript and the image itself I can't see Annie listed there in any shape or form. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 04/02/2012 10:34, Dan Billington wrote: > Hello lister's > > I am trying to find Annie Cropley (born 1849, Gosberton) on the 1911 census > of the workhouse on Pinchbeck Road - I am drawing a blank on all services. > > The work house was still in operation until 1930 I think - so it should be > there ? > > Can anyone offer any help. > > Annie died 1929 she I know she is still living then and she spent the last > two census at least with them. > > Many thanks > > > Dan Billington > >

That wasn't what you asked, was it? Sorry. I did have a quick go through but couldn't see your Annie Cropley. Maybe she is receiving out relief in which case she could be living anywhere in the country. Look for her relatives, sons, daughters etc. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington > Sent: 04 February 2012 10:34 > To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > > Hello lister's > > I am trying to find Annie Cropley (born 1849, Gosberton) on the 1911 > census > of the workhouse on Pinchbeck Road - I am drawing a blank on all services. > > The work house was still in operation until 1930 I think - so it should be > there ? > > Can anyone offer any help. > > Annie died 1929 she I know she is still living then and she spent the last > two census at least with them. > > Many thanks > > > Dan Billington > > > > (This email, and any attachments, contains proprietary information some or > all of which may be confidential and legally privileged. It is for the > intended recipient only. If an addressing or transmission error has > misdirected this email, please notify the author by replying to this email > and then delete the message and any attachments from your system. If you > are > not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy or > print this email. In view of the provisions of the Human Rights Act 1998 > the > Directors do not monitor all the firm's outgoing emails. The Directors > accepts no liability for the contents of emails unconnected with the > affairs > of the firm or its clients. Although this email and any attachments have > been scanned for viruses, the success of scanning products is not > guaranteed. The recipient (s) should therefore carry out any checks that > they believe to be appropriate in this respect.) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

I found it quite easily on Ancestry using the browse facility, Lincolnshire, Spalding RD, and the workhouse is usually the last Enumeration District, 10 in this case. The number of the book is 19500 (I use this as the equivalent of the old Piece number). There were only 9 images, only half of which showed names, and the column showing infirmities is still blanked out. Tried, Find My Past, but cannot find it on there, using Pinchbeck Road. There doesn't seem to be any facility on FMP to enter the numerical reference. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billington > Sent: 04 February 2012 10:34 > To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Spalding Union Workshouse 1911 census > > Hello lister's > > I am trying to find Annie Cropley (born 1849, Gosberton) on the 1911 > census > of the workhouse on Pinchbeck Road - I am drawing a blank on all services. > > The work house was still in operation until 1930 I think - so it should be > there ? > > Can anyone offer any help. > > Annie died 1929 she I know she is still living then and she spent the last > two census at least with them. > > Many thanks > > > Dan Billington > > > > (This email, and any attachments, contains proprietary information some or > all of which may be confidential and legally privileged. It is for the > intended recipient only. If an addressing or transmission error has > misdirected this email, please notify the author by replying to this email > and then delete the message and any attachments from your system. If you > are > not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy or > print this email. In view of the provisions of the Human Rights Act 1998 > the > Directors do not monitor all the firm's outgoing emails. The Directors > accepts no liability for the contents of emails unconnected with the > affairs > of the firm or its clients. Although this email and any attachments have > been scanned for viruses, the success of scanning products is not > guaranteed. The recipient (s) should therefore carry out any checks that > they believe to be appropriate in this respect.) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Hello lister's I am trying to find Annie Cropley (born 1849, Gosberton) on the 1911 census of the workhouse on Pinchbeck Road - I am drawing a blank on all services. The work house was still in operation until 1930 I think - so it should be there ? Can anyone offer any help. Annie died 1929 she I know she is still living then and she spent the last two census at least with them. Many thanks Dan Billington (This email, and any attachments, contains proprietary information some or all of which may be confidential and legally privileged. It is for the intended recipient only. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this email, please notify the author by replying to this email and then delete the message and any attachments from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy or print this email. In view of the provisions of the Human Rights Act 1998 the Directors do not monitor all the firm's outgoing emails. The Directors accepts no liability for the contents of emails unconnected with the affairs of the firm or its clients. Although this email and any attachments have been scanned for viruses, the success of scanning products is not guaranteed. The recipient (s) should therefore carry out any checks that they believe to be appropriate in this respect.)

Free to a good home: Death Certificate of Sarah ROGERS, wife of Robert ROGERS bricklayer's labourer, 28 May 1855 at Swineshead, Lincolnshire. First come, first served, BEFORE 11 FEBRUARY. Regards, Michael James Edgoose http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=medgoose1538 > Message du 03/02/12 19:58 > De : "Anne Cole" > A : eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [LIN] Query about a Will > > Nivard and Gillian, > > I have to comment on this. I once asked someone who was going to a Yorkshire > record office to obtain a copy of an administration (pre 1858). The RO told > him it wasn't worth it. I insisted, and when it came it had with it a copy > from a Manorial court roll, plus another paper giving the names of two > children that we didn't know about. > > One Administration I ordered from Cheshire came with a Tuition Bond attached > (again pre 1858). > > I'm not saying that this particular admons is going to be that helpful, just > saying that you never know what you might get. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > > Sent: 03 February 2012 18:26 > > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [LIN] Query about a Will > > > > Hi Gillian > > > > The important word here is Administration > > > > This means there was no will > > > > So what has happened is that he left property or assets behind which at > > some point someone needed to > > sell so the rights to that property needed to be settled by obtaining > > letters of Administration from > > the Courts > > > > Which James KNILL did in 1892 > > > > I do not see an obvious death registration (and obviously neither did the > > Court) > > > > That is not to say he did not die overseas but may simply have gone > > elsewhere , perhaps changing > > name > > > > Many events for overseas were either never recorded or were and never > > passed back to the GRO in the > > UK > > > > Unfortunately the copy of the letters of administration are unlikely to > > tell you any more than you > > have from the Probate Calendars > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > Hi Listers, > > > > I have found a listing on Wills & Administrations on Ancestry in 1892 for > > the below but I have a couple of questions associated with it: > > > > How do I find out where he died if he was serving in the Regiment at the > > time? > > & > > Could someone explain how/why the Will has been produced not knowing if > > the > > Edwin is dead? > > > > "Edwin KNILL of Frydd Terrace, Knighton, Radnorshire private in the first > > battalion of the Lincolnshire Regiment died on or since 5 March 1875 at > > --------------------------------------- Administration Hereford 29 Feb > > 1892 > > to James KNILL carpenter Effects £39 7s 8d" > > > > Many thanks > > Gillian Fynes > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >