In envelope with two halfpenny stamps. London Postmark, marked Censored No 6 Mess, H.M.S. Nubian, Oct 26th 1916 Dear Mother,     Just a few lines in answer to yours, which I received this afternoon.  Thanks for the cigarettes which will be a change from ticklers.    We are at sea night and day now so I have not much time to write in. I want you to send me 10 shillings this weekend, as I want all I can possibly get.  Sorry to trouble you, but will make it alright soon.    Shall be sending you a silver brook with our ship's crest on, next week if we get them soon enough.    We keep getting rather rough weather sometimes now, but I still weather the storm alright yet.    Cannot write any news, only acknowledge your letters.  So will close with best love to all,     I remain your Loving Son Joe   X X X X X X X X X X x I said I would tell you a bit about the Nubian. Lou and Carol have told you that the Nubian was torpedoed and holed. This was the last letter Joe wrote, he was drowned the following day. His body was washed ashore at St Margaret's Bay, at Cliffe in Kent.  The Navy wanted to bury him in Kent, but my Grandmother wanted his body brought back to Osgodby.  His coffin was sent by train. They couldn't get a detachment of Sailors for the funeral so Soldiers were sent from Lincoln Barracks to give military honours to the deceased. Service taken by the Revd; S Siddell. Joe has a white War Graves Commission Headstone, in Osgodby Church yard, which is maintained by a volunteer. Joseph William SMITH was buried on 2nd November 1916 at St Andrew's Church, it reads J. W. Smith, Stoker 1st Class SS117420 No great love has no man than to lay down his life for his friends. I understand it thundered and lightened during the funeral ceremony. The H.M.S Nubian was later to make naval history.  It was a Tribel Class Torpedo Boat Destroyer.  It was the first ship to be joined together with another.  It was joined to the 'Zulu' and renamed the 'Zubian' I only have one photograph of Joe, taken in his Naval Uniform, happy to scan and send anybody, if they want to see Joe. I do have a letter written by my Grandfather to his sister in Canada. It tells the story of Joe's death, and the arrival of his body in Lincs etc;  10 years ago my husband and I went to Canada, to meet 7 second cousins, (they found me through the Lincs List) The letter had been kept all these years in Canada, and it was given to me to keep. I am happy to type it out if you would like to read it. Thank you all for being so patient, sorry these letters have such a sad end. Pat in Grimsby, Lincs

In envelope with no stamp, Postmark Dover. Mess No 6, H.M.S. Nubian, Oct 18th 1916. Dear Mother,    Just a few lines in answer to yours which I received tonight.  We finish our stand-off tomorrow morning.    Pleased to hear the operation was successful. Have started keeping company with a nice young lady here.  Have been introduced to the family as her fiance.  Been to tea, supper for three nights.    Our Engineer washed ashore today, both feet and one arm cut off. Remember me to all kind friends especially any young ladies, tell them to write.    I think I shall make a match with this one.  This will be posted ashore so please excuse scribble, as I am in a hurry, and cannot get ashore.    Will write tomorrow, so will close with best love,      I remain, your Loving Son,           Joe XXXXX

In envelope with 1d stamp, stamped by Censor London Postmark No 6 Mess H.M.S. Nubian. October 11th 1916 Dear Mother,    Just a few lines in answer to your welcome letter.  Pleased to hear that you received the registered letter safely.    Fancy any-body telling you such yarns about me being wounded seriously.  You had better let me know who the person is.    I hope Annie will get on alright at the hospital.  It is not a very serious case to operate on.    Dad will be wise if he stops at the saw mill, instead of taking Robert's offer this winter.    Dolly will be pleased the rosary that Percy gave her.  We are getting a football team together on the ship for this season.    Last Friday night we had the misfortune to lose our engineer, as he was washed over-board when we shipped a heavy sea.    I have a few cigarettes occasionally from a young lady in Northumberland. J. Sharpe will nap his eyes now he is grand-pa.  Tell Dad not to be long before he sends the fags, as I can always do with a smoke.    Will Close now, hoping you are all well.    With best love,       I remain Your Loving Son,             Joe. (P.S. Please excuse scribble)            XXXXXXXX

No 6 Mess, H.M.S. Nubian, October 5th 1916. Dear Mother, Just a few lines in answer to your welcome letter.    I have not been able to write sooner as I have only just managed to get a registered envelope today.  I am sending you £1 in this letter, and if you want more let me know.    Fancy all my mates coming home just after I had left.  We are at sea once again for good job.    Has Dad accepted Mr Robert's offer yet, or does he intend to stop at the saw mill.    You had the Zeppa a little bit too near to be pleasant. Well I have not got any particular news to say, so will draw to a close, hoping you are all well as it leaves me at present.    I remain,       Your Loving Son          Joe XXXXX (P.S. Please excuse scribble) The Zeppa or Zeppelin Joe is referring to, might have been the one that came over Cleethorpes, Lincs, The German Commander of the Zeppelin discharged some bombs whilst flying over Cleethorpes,  which were a direct hit on the Baptist Chapel, it just so happened that a Detachment of Soldiers from the Manchester Regt; were billeted in the Chapel for the night in the Chapel, most of them were killed.  I do have a report of this somewhere. I have been to the fine monument to these men, in Cleethorpes Cemetery, and made a list of all their names.

Bravo, Lee I'm saving this one. thanks for posting it. Hope all is well in whitehorse. I've heard about hard weather conditions up there occasionally. we've had a mild winter but very cold and the crows and seagulls are starving. I can feed the small family of crows left but the seagulls must have come from the entire coast of washington state there are so many when I throw out a few pieces of bread. the females are chirping like baby gulls, something I've never heard before and I know they are very hungry - but no fish so they don't even go down to the harbor anymore, just sit on the lamp posts all day. My capitalization isn't working well so please excuse. take care. Keep warm and continue with the good postings, please. very best wishes - carol On 2/5/12, Elizabeth Lee Pugh <elp@northwestel.net> wrote: > My advice to newbies is that "there is no such thing as a free lunch" and, > like all hobbies, this one costs money. > There is a lot of information available via the Internet now, but from > personal observation there is a lot of absolute rubbish published as > "facts", and anything you find on line should be verified by at least one or > more alternate sources. > Many of the Family Trees on line contain assumptions and mistakes and if > anyone copies anything he/she finds on line without further verification or > proof deserves all he/she gets as far as mis-information goes. > I am ever thankful that I started researching my family history in the early > days of on line information (I think only the IGI was available) and I have > spent many (productive and rewarding) hours trawling through films of Parish > records at our local Family History Centre attached to the LDS (Mormon) > church. I also learned very early on that a lot of the Mormon "facts" need > to be verified too - as anything submitted to the IGI as a "patron > submission" is very often a guess. > But, I repeat - you cannot do a good job at this hobby without spending > money. You need to join something like Findmypast or Ancestry (I am a > Findmypast and Genes Reunited person myself) and you often need to buy > copies of certificates for proof of something you have found - and sometimes > you will find you have a wrong certificate which is yet another expense. > (but also, negative "proof" is as good as positive in many ways) I > appreciate that not everyone has the same financial resources and we all > have to limit our spending, or justify in which direction we spend money - > but the same would apply if we are gardening, doing needlework, knitting, > carpentry or whatever. > It is still well worth anyone's while to go to his/her local Family History > Centre and for a minimal fee you can borrow (and study on their premises) > any of the thousands of films of various records the LDS have available to > share with the world. > > The censuses available on line are an invaluable source of information and > if you learn to think laterally and "outside the box" it is amazing how much > you can piece together - and remember to be flexible in how you expect any > names to be spelled. (and transcribers have to write down what they are > copying - not what they either think or know should be there to copy) > > Another bit of advice is don't accept all family legends as true (but don't > totally disregard them either) - work on the assumption that there is > possibly a grain of truth in them somewhere along the line. An example of > this in my family is that one of my great aunts was married to a Russian who > was reported to have been related to Tolstoy. Recently I found his obituary > on line it mentioned that his family had a holiday 'cottage' in the area > where the Tolstoy family had property and the families knew each other - but > that hardly made him one of their relations! So now I know how that legend > came about - that great aunt's sister, who was a bit of a "Mrs Bucket" - > sorry Bouquet! > > Elizabeth Pugh > Whitehorse > Yukon > Canada > > PS I have loved reading Pat's letters from Dorothy Smith. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This should be No 26 not 25 --- On Wed, 15/2/12, Pat Cook <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: Pat Cook <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [LIN] Letters by Joseph William SMITH - No 25 To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 15 February, 2012, 17:56 In envelope with 1d stamp H.M.S. Nubian, No 6 Mess, September 11th 1916 Dear Mother,    Just a few lines to let you know that I have arrived safely. I was pretty fortunate in catching my connections.    Our other watch has gone on seven days leave again today.  Shall have an easy time now till we go back, because all the worst work is done.    Well I have not much news, so please excuse pencil. Will close now hoping you are well,      I remain        Your Loving Son              Joe.                XXXXX                XXXXX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No 6 Mess H.M.S. Nubian, Sept 234d 1916 Dear Mother,      Just a few lines in answer to your welcome letter.  I expect we shall be leaving here next Thursday or Friday for Dover.    We are going to have a different routine this time.  48 hours out and 24 hrs in, and a stand-off every twenty days.  I have been getting stores in this week, and have been in charge of 4 men from the barracks.  Have not done any hard work since we came here.    I drew 21s when I returned from leave but it did not last long.  It is very miserable here with no money I am fed up with it.  I shall be glad when we get back to sea again.    Well I have not got much news to send you.  So will draw to a close. Hoping you are all well as it leaves me at present.           I remain               Your Loving Son                    Joe XXXX                           XXXX (P.S. Please  excuse scribble)

In envelope with 1d stamp H.M.S. Nubian, No 6 Mess, September 11th 1916 Dear Mother,    Just a few lines to let you know that I have arrived safely. I was pretty fortunate in catching my connections.    Our other watch has gone on seven days leave again today.  Shall have an easy time now till we go back, because all the worst work is done.    Well I have not much news, so please excuse pencil. Will close now hoping you are well,      I remain        Your Loving Son              Joe.                XXXXX                XXXXX

H.M.S. Nubian, Sunday 27th August 1916.   Dear Mother,    Just a few lines in answer to your welcome letter.  I had very nearly given up hopes of getting a letter.    I might be home on Tuesday night by the 9 o'clock train, if I can get a good connection, if not shall arrive Wednesday morning.    I have not the least idea how long we shall be here but hope we shall be here tidy while.    Have got a nice new suit this week to come home in.  Am expecting a letter any day from Edith, because I have not had a letter from her lately.    Please excuse short letter and paper.    Will close now       With best love to all,          I remain,            Your Loving Son,                  Joe XXX                         XXXX

In envelope with 1d stamp, H.M.S. Nubian, No 6 Mess, August 13th th 1916. Dear Mother,    Just a few lines in answer to your welcome letter. Pleased to hear that you received my money safely.    We have been very busy lately repairing, have had a lot of trouble with our condesers.    I went before the Engineer this evening, and passed alright.  Several men have been rated on board our ship lately.    I doubt Aunt Sarah will not fare very well now Uncle has been called up. Yes, I got the book alright, but I have not much time to study it.    T Phillipson would cough, and swear when Jack left him. I expect Dad has nearly finished threshing by now, While harvest begins again.    Well, I have not much news, so will draw to a close. Hoping you are all enjoying the best of health the same as I am at present.    Give my love to Marjie,        I remain,          Your Loving Son,               Joe                  XXXXXXX (P.S.) I have received another photo of Edith) Written across the top of the letter is the following H.M.S. Nubian. The 16th day of May 1916 in action with German Destroyers off Zubrugge.

Where is Fanny in 1901 and 1911?? She is living at home in 1891 aged 11 (at the Gordon Arms in Queen Street) and then she marries George Drayton in 1928, but where was she in between?RegardsJan

For those who don't know the background of "HMS Nubian", she was a Tribal class destoyer which was torpedoed off Dover on the 26th of October, 1916.  She has an interesting history of her own.  See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Nubian_%281909%29     Lou

In envelope with 1d stamp, H.M.S. Nubian, No 6 Mess, August 5th 1916,   Dear Mother,    Just a few lines in answer to your welcome letter which I received safely this afternoon.    Many thanks for the book, it is very kind of Ted to send it.  I am rather busy studying for a mechanical exam now.  I expect to go before the Engineer on Monday or Tuesday to try to get rated.    We started our standoff today till Tuesday morning.  Shall post this in Dover tomorrow.    While patrolling one day this week we had the good luck to sink two enemy mines by maxim fire.     I happened to get hold of an old Chronicle and saw the Glentham Vacancy..  I was thinking Dolly would try for it.    We are having a rather warm and uncomfortable time now in the stoke hold.    I have not bought the cloth yet for Edith, so Dolly will have to wait a long time.    Am enclosing 20s for you to take care of for me.  I don't think Dad need be afraid of being called up yet.     If I get rated I shall get a rise of three shillings a week. Some of our boats have had a scrap just lately.    Edith sent me her photo last time she wrote, and is getting it taken again, and will forward me another.    My word, though, our army has been strafing the Germans just lately.  I could hear the big guns roaring when we anchored in Dunkirk one day.  Old Casement has swung at last for a blessing.    Well I must close now, hoping to see you soon.    With best Love,          I remain,             Your Loving Son,                 Joe XXXXXXX                      xxxxxxxxxx Dolly, Joe's sister, did try for the post of school teacher at Glentham and got the post.  I have yet another piece of paper, torn out of a notebook, written by my grandmother. Miss D Smith, Kirkby -c-Osgodby, Lincoln. 12 Lessons at Barnetby Examination July 11th 1914 Less, Geographical Story, 63 over 80, written as a fraction. Was successful and received a certificate November 14th 1914 Commenced duties Jan 1st 1913 Osgodby School Commenced at Glentham February 19th 1917

G'day Thanks for the WILKINSON info re Lincs My Husband Bernard Eric WILKINSON was born in North Hykeham on 27.06.1934 Bridget DRAPER/WILKINSON Been in Australia 50 years on 02.04.2012 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: "PAMELA BAILLIE" <pamela.baillie1@btopenworld.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Meryl Streep and Wilkinson Lincs Relos Some time ago Terry Wilkinson extracted all the Lincolnshire Wilkinsons from Parish Reg Census GRO NPC etc and did a one named study His work is deposited at Lincolnshire Archives Pam (Nee Wilkisnon) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _______________________________ From: elaine westaway <laneywest1960@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012, 11:38 Subject: Re: [LIN] Meryl Streep and Wilkinson Lincs Relos Dear David I have lincolnshire Wilkinsons in my line, my great great Grandmother was Eliza Wilkinson born 1842 in North Hykeham, I have traced her line back to William Wilkinson born 1756 in Thorpe on the Hill, he married Elizabeth Marfleet of Somerton Castle Boothby Grafoe, and gave his profession as "Gentleman" but I have no line beyond him ( there is another tree on Ancestry who give his parentage as Christina Page and Thomas Wilkinson but I cannot confirm or deny this at present), I am wondering if there is any link to Meryl's Wilkinsons. regards Elaine Westaway Was surprised to hear Meryl Streep mention in her BAFTA acceptance speech that she was of half Lincolnshire stock from a Wilkinson family . Having a quick search of her ancestry all seem to be born in the US right back to the 1600s and then you get to an unplaced William , so anyone lay claim to link ? Lawrence Wilkinson was born 1620, and died 1692. He was the son of 2. William Wilkinson and 3. Anne Conyers. He married Susannah Smith. She was born 1628, and died 1692. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``Snipped some info.

Jan How about Nellie ROWELL visiting Sarah BARTLE at 7 King Street, Market Rasen in 1901? RG13/3099/37 Where is Fanny in 1901 and 1911?? She is living at home in 1891 aged 11 (at the Gordon Arms in Queen Street) and then she marries George Drayton in 1928, but where was she in between?RegardsJan Regards Wendy Parkinson http://www.wparkinson.com/Churches

Many thanks for passing on this information - we believe that the Daniel you've quoted in both instances, is the chap I was looking at at Coningsby. David -----Original Message----- From: Meg and Mike Hartford Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:36 PM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Marriage help David, The only marriages in the Holland area index (LFHS CD) for Daniel Johnson are as follows.:- 1) Daniel Johnson to Mary Farr Leverton 2 Oct 1832 both wids 2) Daniel Johnson to Margaret Lancaster Leverton 8 June 1826 We do not have the Horncastle area index which includes Coningsby. Best wishes Meg Hartford Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Meredith Sent: 13 February 2012 20:31 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Marriage help I have a Daniel JOHNSON and Ann WOODWARD married at Coningsby in 1797. I believe they later turn up in Old Leake where daughters Mary JOHNSON and Sarah JOHNSON were baptized in 1809 and 1814 respectively. Unfortunately there is a snag because unlike Sarah, Mary's mother was recorded as 'Mary' instead of 'Ann'. So far I have been unable to find any other marriage events for a Daniel JOHNSON in the Boston - Coningsby area for the period between 1797 - 1814. If anyone has access to the L.F.H.S. marriage index for this period I would appreciate a check to see that no such marriages took place. Thanks David Meredith - Nottingham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the envelope with stamp. Stamped by Censor H.M.S.Nubian. No 6 Mess July 29th 1916 Dear Mother,    Just a few lines in answer to yours which I received this morning.  Thanks for the stamps, they will be very useful.    We are having quite a lot of foggy weather now, and it does not suit our job very well.    Yesterday we had the good luck to sink a mine.  I am getting on pretty well with swimming now, we can go over the side nearly every night if we like.    Got paid today, and shall send some money as soon as I get a registered letter. I am studying oil fuel strong now.    I expect you will be getting some more letters returned now, because several have been lost.  If you should find that little dictionery of mine any time, please send it, as the other is not much good.  Shall remember you to Edith when I write her again.    Glad to hear you are all well as it leaves me at present.      Must close now with love to all,          I remain,           Your loving Son.               Joe XXX

David, The only marriages in the Holland area index (LFHS CD) for Daniel Johnson are as follows.:- 1) Daniel Johnson to Mary Farr Leverton 2 Oct 1832 both wids 2) Daniel Johnson to Margaret Lancaster Leverton 8 June 1826 We do not have the Horncastle area index which includes Coningsby. Best wishes Meg Hartford Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Meredith Sent: 13 February 2012 20:31 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Marriage help I have a Daniel JOHNSON and Ann WOODWARD married at Coningsby in 1797. I believe they later turn up in Old Leake where daughters Mary JOHNSON and Sarah JOHNSON were baptized in 1809 and 1814 respectively. Unfortunately there is a snag because unlike Sarah, Mary's mother was recorded as 'Mary' instead of 'Ann'. So far I have been unable to find any other marriage events for a Daniel JOHNSON in the Boston - Coningsby area for the period between 1797 - 1814. If anyone has access to the L.F.H.S. marriage index for this period I would appreciate a check to see that no such marriages took place. Thanks David Meredith - Nottingham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

H.M.S. Nubian No 6 Mess July 1916. Dear Mother,    Just a few lines in answer to your letter which I received on Sunday 23rd. We are having quite an easy time of it now.  One day we sunk a mine last week while on patrol.    Took General R - over to B - again.  There seems to have been plenty of sport just lately round-about you.  I wish I have been there to see some of the fun.    Our Navy is rapidly getting larger, we are building at least one ship a week, so I think we shall smash their Fleet up alright.    Am going to get a fancy table cloth to work in with silk, and shall make Edith a present of it.  We are getting quite affectionate now, she is always worrying about me and my work.  She thinks I shall ruin my health, and wants me to get a different job.  I must be quite a delicate and weak person now.    There is a buzz about leave in August. I hope we do not get leave yet, because I have not saved any more money yet.  It seems to go before I have time to think about it.    Last stand off I had the misfortune to lose a 10s note the first day ashore. Edith is quite busy now working among the hay, besides doing the posting.  So I think she is doing her bit in this war.  I am sorry to hear you are not very well and hope you will soon be alright again.    I hope Dad is keeping steady now, I wonder at him stopping with Robinson now, when so many good jobs are vacant.  Shall post this when I can get ashore.    Well I must close now hoping your all well as it leaves me at present. With best love to All,      I remain,         Your loving Son,             Joe XXXXXXX (PS) (Do you mind sending me two or three stamps)

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