Septimus Octavian is odd. I have a Septimus, because he was the seventh son (note, not the seventh child, but the seventh son). However, Octavian should, logically, have been the child (or son) born after Septimus. Are you sure they both refer to one person? Happy hunting!   Diana Robinson (nee Gardner) Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Julia [mailto:wisniowka@virginbroadband.com.au] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 6:45 AM To: eng-lincsgen-L@Rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Unusual names Hi all These are my unusual names all from Lincs. Abra female born c 1755. Beely Isiah Sara Lin Carby Theodosia Easteran Zillah Azubah Theophilus Cybelle Augusta Queenie Millicent Septimus Octavian Hepzibah Immer Butt Keypella Etheldreda Damarius Sherriffe Willows Wales Zaccheus Julia

I would like to thank all the people who responded to my query about the name OXTOBY. You have given me much food for thought!!! First off, it was very interesting that Ed Harrison mentioned about a Richard Oxtaby and family in Brantford Ontario. When my gggrandmother Elizabeth Wright aged 9 and her family emigrated to North America in 1870, they went to Winchester, Illinois. Shortly afterwards, they went to Brantford Ontario. I even have a photo of Elizabeth who looks to be about 13 or so.On the photo is inscribed "S Park Artist", "Brantford Ontario" Perhaps, they went there because family (Oxtaby) were there??? By the late 1870's they were in Essex County Ontario (Windsor area) Denny, again I think you for pointing out the surname in certain areas of Lincolnshire. Worth doing research there. Susan, it is great news to see that a Robert Oxtoby married an Eliza Wright from Barkston. But it is not clear whether or not she was my gggrandfather John Wright's sister. The family believed that John's sister Eliza had never married and that she and another unmarried sister Ann ran a boarding house in a resort area in the south of England. Also family folklore told of John being the only boy with 8 sisters. So, did Robert Oxtoby marry John's sister or another Eliza Wright from Barkston? I need to sort that out. Speaking of sorting out, Pam Downes, you pointed out the same complications that I have run into trying to sort out the parents and births of the WRIGHTs of Barkston. What I do know is that my John's father was also a John Wright and he married an Elizabeth Bartram. Both men were carpenters. I do appreciate your research and providing links for me to pursue. Thank you again for all the interest and help. I have a couple of very good leads to follow and reserach. Violet

Pam, that's where I got it from - I was looking a places within five miles of Hameringham, and there was Asgarby (Spilsby) but I didn't click on that or I would have seen that it is because there are a few Asgarby's in Lincs. I am currently going back and looking at all the places I have found links with and finding out exactly where they are to get a better idea of the layout of the county. And also to try and work out which indexes I need to buy to try and get further back.Jan > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 02:29:41 +0000 > From: pam@five-oaks.co.uk > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] Asgarby?Spilsby? > > Who's not using the link I sent you that ends in LIN/parishes.html ? > (Fourth one in the email.) > > Pam > Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ > > > On 05/03/2012 02:15, Jan Moon wrote: > > > > > > > > Why, when you see Asgarby listed somewhere, does it have Spilsby in brackets next to it?Jan > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Why, when you see Asgarby listed somewhere, does it have Spilsby in brackets next to it?Jan

I have a few of those as well - was Elam a person? My great grandfather named two of his houses Elam. I also have the name Salah, which I don't know from where it came.Jan Moon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4835 - Release Date: 02/27/12 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is curious as to the perspective of what is an unusual name - particularly with Christian names. Surnames are often the origins of what family name have evolved into. Recalling one of my first encounters of my ancestors straying from the mundane routine of naming their 'issue' after English Kings and Queens, 'Tirzah' was my first dalliance with what I thought to be the unusual. I then discovered this name popular at the time, probably in relation to the poem of that name by William Blake ( although it is also a biblical name, which (The Internet thingy tells me) is Hebrew for 'She is my delight'). Either way its use was because of its popularity and like all fashions, they come and go. I figure that as education and media became more wide spread that our ancestors partially freed the shackles of the mundane naming patterns of the past when a whole world of names started to appear in print. Then , where John had jousted, Jabez juggled instead. Frank had fallen to the quite avant-garde Fred, who had been popularised by Queen Victoria's cousin Fredrick II. The poet Ephelia elated Elizabeth and more names followed. I am certain should any of our ancestors be looking down upon us right now - they will be ridiculing Kylie, Usain, Rhianna or Ringo and any other popularised name of the last two centuries. Perhaps they too are making lists. Mind you, I hope not as I am dreading having to explain the origins of " Fifi Trixibelle" to them Tirzah'l that I have to say on the matter J Best Wishes Dan Tirzah Whate'er is born of mortal birth Must be consumed with the earth, To rise from generation free: Then what have I to do with thee? The sexes sprung from shame and pride, Blowed in the morn, in evening died; But mercy changed death into sleep; The sexes rose to work and weep. Thou, mother of my mortal part, With cruelty didst mould my heart, And with false self-deceiving tears Didst blind my nostrils, eyes, and ears, Didst close my tongue in senseless clay, And me to mortal life betray. The death of Jesus set me free: Then what have I to do with thee?

Can I ask another question about my Post Cards , I have one addressed Sun Dene . Old Clee. Nr Grimsby dated 1925. There is no resident name and no street number or name. but it is post marked how did the postman know where to deliver it????. I am very eager to find who lived there as it was the last address given in my Grandmothers papers , just before she sailed to Australia in 1925 . Scandal of the family my grandmother Betsy ( Cheeseman ) Quickfall wife of Frederick Quickfall went to Australia with Charles Willerton. On her passport was Mrs Ellen Willerton, I cant help wondering if Charles had a wife called Ellen . left behind in England. Betsy & Charles last address in England was Sun Dene ( I would say that Sun Dene is a house name) I am trying to find out who else knew they were leaving the country Bev on Bribie

Feminine version of Ralph Judith Harper Nelson, NZ On 05/03/2012 10:37, michael wilson wrote: > > > > one of my wifes great aunts was given the first name of Ralphina - have no idea from where ? .Mick Wilson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Premier of SA in the 1960s was Steele Hall, whom my uncle referred to as Tin Shed. Christopher Ridings cnridings@gmail.com http://chrisridings.blogspot.com/ P.S. Please note that my email address has changed from cnridings@exemail.com.au to cnridings@gmail.com. > > > > > From: John Rouse <lincs@timewarp.demon.co.uk> > Date: 5 March 2012 9:43:29 AM > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] Surnames used as forenames > Reply-To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > > In message <9C08C8AC7D894F29BE1864A6F9AD8D5E@AnnePC>, Anne Cole <duncalf@one-name.org > > writes >> Someone once told me they knew of an Orson Cart! >> >> Anne >> > My mother-in-law's best friend at school in Melton, was Rose Cottage > > John > -- > John Rouse > > > > To contact the ENG-LINCSGEN list administrator, send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-LINCSGEN mailing list, send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text.

Bev Have you got the travel records for her. Also travelling with her were Mr. T Quickfall Miss F Quickfall & Mrs. R Parker all gave their address as Sun Dene Old Clee. Cgarles had travelled out the year before Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman Sent: 05 March 2012 02:21 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] grimsby Can I ask another question about my Post Cards , I have one addressed Sun Dene . Old Clee. Nr Grimsby dated 1925. There is no resident name and no street number or name. but it is post marked how did the postman know where to deliver it????. I am very eager to find who lived there as it was the last address given in my Grandmothers papers , just before she sailed to Australia in 1925 . Scandal of the family my grandmother Betsy ( Cheeseman ) Quickfall wife of Frederick Quickfall went to Australia with Charles Willerton. On her passport was Mrs Ellen Willerton, I cant help wondering if Charles had a wife called Ellen . left behind in England. Betsy & Charles last address in England was Sun Dene ( I would say that Sun Dene is a house name) I am trying to find out who else knew they were leaving the country Bev on Bribie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone help me , I have an address on a post card dated 1910 Jack & Minnie last name very faded looks like 5 letters ??sker the address is also faded could be 64 or 84 Wold St or Wild St Grimsby. I know this is difficult but I thought it was worth a try , someone out there might know Grimsby streets Bev on Bribie

They are both Arabic words, did he spend some in persian? Sent via BlackBerry® from BT -----Original Message----- From: Jan Moon <janmoon52@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 01:39:51 To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LIN] Biblical Names  I have a few of those as well - was Elam a person? My great grandfather named two of his houses Elam. I also have the name Salah, which I don't know from where it came.Jan Moon  > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4835 - Release Date: 02/27/12 > >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                                          ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It could be 64 Wood Street Grimsby John William COBLEY Born 1867 Hull Timber Merchants Foreman Minnie COBLEY Born 1857 Holton Le Clay Wife Taken from 1911 Nik On 5 March 2012 09:04, Phil at Angelic Aromas <phil.gresham@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > I suggest historicaldirectories(dot)org, select Lincolnshire and search a > street directory for about that date. There are directories for 1909 and > 1913 but they may only be for Lincoln. > > You can find more useful information on > rootstoyourancestors(dot)co(dot)uk, a free resource finder > > Phil > Sent via BlackBerry® from BT > > -----Original Message----- > From: "J & B.H. Stegeman" <beverley.stegeman@bigpond.com> > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 23:41:26 > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LIN] 1911 census > > Can someone help me , I have an address on a post card dated 1910 Jack & > Minnie last name very faded looks like 5 letters ??sker the address is > also faded could be 64 or 84 Wold St or Wild St Grimsby. > I know this is difficult but I thought it was worth a try , someone out > there might know Grimsby streets > Bev on Bribie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I suggest historicaldirectories(dot)org, select Lincolnshire and search a street directory for about that date. There are directories for 1909 and 1913 but they may only be for Lincoln. You can find more useful information on rootstoyourancestors(dot)co(dot)uk, a free resource finder Phil Sent via BlackBerry® from BT -----Original Message----- From: "J & B.H. Stegeman" <beverley.stegeman@bigpond.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 23:41:26 To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LIN] 1911 census Can someone help me , I have an address on a post card dated 1910  Jack & Minnie  last name very faded looks like 5 letters ??sker    the address is also faded  could be 64 or 84 Wold St or Wild St Grimsby. I know this is difficult but I thought it was worth a try , someone out there might know Grimsby streets Bev on Bribie     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Innocent, baptised Oct 1697 at Scopwick, son of John BODY Regards Wendy Parkinson http://www.wparkinson.com/Churches

Hi Terry, I also am related to the Raithby & Hoodless lines, my great aunt, sister to my maternal grandfather, Edith Fisher, married Richard Raithby Shepherd, son of Mark Harrison Shepherd and Rebecca Hoodless. Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wells" <terry.wells@talktalk.net> To: "'PAMELA BAILLIE'" <pamela.baillie1@btopenworld.com>; <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Surnames used as forenames >I also have a family in my tree that use the name Raithby as a middle or >third Christian name. Named after Naomi Raithby b. S.Somercotes 1772. >Family is Hoodless from N. Somercotes. > > Terry M Wells > > -----Original Message----- > From: PAMELA BAILLIE [mailto:pamela.baillie1@btopenworld.com] > Sent: 04 March 2012 21:16 > To: Lincs list > Subject: Re: [LIN] Surnames used as forenames > > > My Great Grandfather was Spendlar Raithby Wilkinson, his mother being a > Spendlar and grandmother a Raithby > > > ________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My first cousin 5 times removed married Mary SKEPPER in 1840, their son Joseph named one of his sons Original TRAVIS. This Original died in infancy. > > > > My 3rd cousin 5 times removed (!!) married Original Skepper 1st June > 1813 at Fiskerton, their 12th child was called Original as was Original > juniors 7th child. How many Originals can you have? > > Phil > > > -- Regards Wendy Parkinson http://www.wparkinson.com/Churches

Again not from Lincs but again interesting especially as they were christened in the 1820s.  My great grandmother had 5 brothers and all had, as forenames, Napoleon or Bonaparte or both.  Yes, her name was Josephine!! Mike

If you see 'by' with regard to a Lincolnshire place you can usually bet it's because there are at least two places with the same first part of the name. Then you have Kirton in Holland and Kirton in Lindsey. Plus you have the ones with a plain name, e.g. Langton, but you also have Langton by Partney and Langton by Wragby as well. That Genuki list, good though it is, is not exhaustive. By far the best reference for all the places in Lincolnshire, including tiny hamlets, is the 'A Gazetteer of Historic Lincolnshire for Family and Local Historians' published by Lincolnshire FHS. It, and the companion 'Registration districts and Deaneries 1841-1901' really are worth their weight in gold. (And I say that as someone born in Lincolnshire!) Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 05/03/2012 02:54, Jan Moon wrote: > Pam, that's where I got it from - I was looking a places within five miles of Hameringham, and there was Asgarby (Spilsby) but I didn't click on that or I would have seen that it is because there are a few Asgarby's in Lincs. I am currently going back and looking at all the places I have found links with and finding out exactly where they are to get a better idea of the layout of the county. And also to try and work out which indexes I need to buy to try and get further back.Jan > > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 02:29:41 +0000 >> From: pam@five-oaks.co.uk >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LIN] Asgarby?Spilsby? >> >> Who's not using the link I sent you that ends in LIN/parishes.html ? >> (Fourth one in the email.) >> >> Pam >> Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society >> http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ >> >> >> On 05/03/2012 02:15, Jan Moon wrote: >>> >>> >>> Why, when you see Asgarby listed somewhere, does it have Spilsby in brackets next to it?Jan >>> >> >> -------------------------------

Who's not using the link I sent you that ends in LIN/parishes.html ? (Fourth one in the email.) Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ On 05/03/2012 02:15, Jan Moon wrote: > > > > Why, when you see Asgarby listed somewhere, does it have Spilsby in brackets next to it?Jan >