Thanks anyway . Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy > Sorry Bev, there are no more sources that I can look at for you. There are > no bastardy documents (or any other poor law documents if it comes to > that) > for North Kelsey so the only source is the Quarter Sessions and the > Caistor > Workhouse stuff. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman >> Sent: 22 March 2012 00:26 >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy >> >> Sorry I got carried away with so much information, The child I am >> looking >> for is child of Elizabeth Tomlinson & John Quickfall of North Kelsey. the >> Towle child was Sarah Towle mother Elizabeth born 19 July 1827, this >> John >> Quickfall was the owner of the Red Lion hotel at Caistor and he was >> already >> married. the John Quickfall father of the Tomlinson child married >> Elizabeth >> Urry 28 May 1827 at North Kelsey his father was Christopher Quickfall. >> Bev on very wet Bribie Island >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> >> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy >> >> >> > The baptism of Sarah daughter of Elizabeth Towle is here >> > >> http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=631 >> 04 >> > 2&iid=374996 >> > >> > Maybe there is a mistake on the recognizance? It seems too much of a >> > coincidence that John Quickfall should be the father of two >> > illegitimate >> > children in the same year, both mothers called Elizabeth, and the >> Caistor >> > minutes show that Elizabeth Towle had two others with different >> > fathers, >> > presuming that these three children were siblings. I found the baptism >> of >> > Martha fathered by Cox whilst looking through the N Kelsey register, in >> > 1830 >> > I think. >> > >> > Anne >> > >> > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society >> > >> > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 >> > >> > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html >> > >> > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index >> > >> > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ >> > >> > Lincolnshire Family History Society >> > >> > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole >> >> Sent: 21 March 2012 09:07 >> >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy >> >> >> >> More info. Tried searching for Towle in the LQS docs and came across >> >> putative father Thomas Cox in 1830. The Caistor Workhouse ref mentions >> >> three >> >> children in the same entry, Sarah Towle 10, Martha Towle 7 (dau of >> >> John >> >> Cox) >> >> and Wm Towle 4 (son of James Lester). The mother in the Thomas Cox >> >> case >> >> is >> >> Elizabeth Towle. >> >> >> >> Some detective work needs to be done here. Have you tried the North >> >> Kelsey >> >> baptism records on Lincs to the Past? >> >> >> >> Must dash, off to Archives. >> >> >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society >> >> >> >> Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 >> >> >> >> http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html >> >> >> >> Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index >> >> >> >> http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ >> >> >> >> Lincolnshire Family History Society >> >> >> >> http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> >> > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman >> >> > Sent: 21 March 2012 06:28 >> >> > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> >> > Subject: [LIN] bastardy >> >> > >> >> > I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can >> anyone >> >> > please help me. >> >> > Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 >> >> > mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman >> >> > Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man >> >> > The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber >> >> > Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey >> >> > >> >> > I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, >> >> > >> >> > Bev of Bribie Island >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- >> >> > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> >> the >> >> > subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- >> >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> >> the >> >> subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > No virus found in this message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4884 - Release Date: >> 03/21/12 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > No virus found in this message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4884 - Release Date: >> 03/21/12 >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the >> subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4887 - Release Date: 03/22/12 > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4887 - Release Date: 03/22/12 >

Dear Jan There were a number of Sharp (Sharpe) families throughout Lincolnshire (Stamford/Baston/ Little Bytham/Castle Bytham)but I do believe that there are connections with other Sharpe families waiting to be found!. My branch appears to have been in the Castle Bytham area for generations! BTW with or without an "E". Regards Margaret -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John & Jan Marchant Sent: 23 March 2012 05:05 To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: To-Do list Dear Margaret Thought I'd drop you a line re SHARPE. I had SHARP(E) ancestors in the Spilsby area who had big families in the 19th century. I have no record of any of them living in Castle Blytham but some of the brothers could have moved there. My mother's maiden name was SHARP. Regards Jan Marchant Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Taylor" <gtmt11@ntlworld.com> To: "'Louis Mills'" <louis_mills@att.net>; <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: To-Do list > Dear Lou > > I would like to know more about my 4x great grandfather John Wing 1756 - > 1813. > > He was born and lived in Castle Bytham and apparently was from a family of > Stonemasons. Several memorials bear his initials or a W (for Wing) > initial. > I would like to know if the Wing family had anything to do with > refurbishment of St James in Castle Bytham and where they lived in the > village. I have Sharpe ancestors and its interesting to see several graves > of the Sharpes, right next to the Church entrance with JW initials on the > memorial stones. Why were they given such a prominent position? > > Did the Wing family always live in Castle Bytham or did they originate > from > another close by village? > > Many thanks > > Margaret (nee Sharpe) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Louis Mills > Sent: 19 March 2012 17:09 > To: eng-lincsgen-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] Admin. note: To-Do list > > This is the week to clean your mouse and keyboard. When you shut down the > computer today, put a paper towel over the keyboard to remind you to wipe > it > down before you use it again. Tap all the cookie crumbs out of it and > clean > the mouse and the mouse pad before hitting the "On" button. > > Now, I want you to prepare for April. Every village (and most families) > had > a "memorable" character. Sometimes they were the nastiest person in town, > the sweetest, most caring person, or the village clown. I want you to > collect your thoughts and memories about the character in Lincolnshire > that > left the strongest memories for you. Then, starting April 1st, we will > share them. > > Some of you will find this difficult. But some of you may also have heard > stories about "uncle Joe the smuggler" or "aunt Edith, the candy lady." > Share those stories with us. But don't start until April 1st. That will > give you time to see if you can find some factual family history data > about > them. > > Now, clean the cat hair off the computer fan. In fact, vacuum the cat. > It's more fun than backing up your computer data. > > Lou (list admin.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4883 - Release Date: 03/20/12 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The actor was known as Arthur Lucan but he was born Arthur Towle If I recall correctly he died on stage at the Tivoli Theatre (long demolished) in Hull. I was hoping to watch him at the time. Victor On 22/03/2012 5:07 PM, rjngs wrote: > BTW - TOWLE was the name of 'Old Mother Riley', born in Lincolnshire. > > Bob. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BTW - TOWLE was the name of 'Old Mother Riley', born in Lincolnshire. Bob.

Sorry Bev, there are no more sources that I can look at for you. There are no bastardy documents (or any other poor law documents if it comes to that) for North Kelsey so the only source is the Quarter Sessions and the Caistor Workhouse stuff. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman > Sent: 22 March 2012 00:26 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy > > Sorry I got carried away with so much information, The child I am looking > for is child of Elizabeth Tomlinson & John Quickfall of North Kelsey. the > Towle child was Sarah Towle mother Elizabeth born 19 July 1827, this > John > Quickfall was the owner of the Red Lion hotel at Caistor and he was > already > married. the John Quickfall father of the Tomlinson child married > Elizabeth > Urry 28 May 1827 at North Kelsey his father was Christopher Quickfall. > Bev on very wet Bribie Island > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:58 AM > Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy > > > > The baptism of Sarah daughter of Elizabeth Towle is here > > > http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=631 > 04 > > 2&iid=374996 > > > > Maybe there is a mistake on the recognizance? It seems too much of a > > coincidence that John Quickfall should be the father of two illegitimate > > children in the same year, both mothers called Elizabeth, and the > Caistor > > minutes show that Elizabeth Towle had two others with different fathers, > > presuming that these three children were siblings. I found the baptism > of > > Martha fathered by Cox whilst looking through the N Kelsey register, in > > 1830 > > I think. > > > > Anne > > > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole > >> Sent: 21 March 2012 09:07 > >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy > >> > >> More info. Tried searching for Towle in the LQS docs and came across > >> putative father Thomas Cox in 1830. The Caistor Workhouse ref mentions > >> three > >> children in the same entry, Sarah Towle 10, Martha Towle 7 (dau of John > >> Cox) > >> and Wm Towle 4 (son of James Lester). The mother in the Thomas Cox case > >> is > >> Elizabeth Towle. > >> > >> Some detective work needs to be done here. Have you tried the North > >> Kelsey > >> baptism records on Lincs to the Past? > >> > >> Must dash, off to Archives. > >> > >> Anne > >> > >> Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > >> > >> Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > >> > >> http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > >> > >> Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > >> > >> http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > >> > >> Lincolnshire Family History Society > >> > >> http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > >> > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman > >> > Sent: 21 March 2012 06:28 > >> > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: [LIN] bastardy > >> > > >> > I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can > anyone > >> > please help me. > >> > Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 > >> > mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman > >> > Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man > >> > The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber > >> > Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey > >> > > >> > I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, > >> > > >> > Bev of Bribie Island > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > >> > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > >> the > >> > subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > >> the > >> subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4884 - Release Date: > 03/21/12 > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4884 - Release Date: > 03/21/12 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Sorry I got carried away with so much information, The child I am looking for is child of Elizabeth Tomlinson & John Quickfall of North Kelsey. the Towle child was Sarah Towle mother Elizabeth born 19 July 1827, this John Quickfall was the owner of the Red Lion hotel at Caistor and he was already married. the John Quickfall father of the Tomlinson child married Elizabeth Urry 28 May 1827 at North Kelsey his father was Christopher Quickfall. Bev on very wet Bribie Island ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy > The baptism of Sarah daughter of Elizabeth Towle is here > http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=63104 > 2&iid=374996 > > Maybe there is a mistake on the recognizance? It seems too much of a > coincidence that John Quickfall should be the father of two illegitimate > children in the same year, both mothers called Elizabeth, and the Caistor > minutes show that Elizabeth Towle had two others with different fathers, > presuming that these three children were siblings. I found the baptism of > Martha fathered by Cox whilst looking through the N Kelsey register, in > 1830 > I think. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole >> Sent: 21 March 2012 09:07 >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy >> >> More info. Tried searching for Towle in the LQS docs and came across >> putative father Thomas Cox in 1830. The Caistor Workhouse ref mentions >> three >> children in the same entry, Sarah Towle 10, Martha Towle 7 (dau of John >> Cox) >> and Wm Towle 4 (son of James Lester). The mother in the Thomas Cox case >> is >> Elizabeth Towle. >> >> Some detective work needs to be done here. Have you tried the North >> Kelsey >> baptism records on Lincs to the Past? >> >> Must dash, off to Archives. >> >> Anne >> >> Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society >> >> Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 >> >> http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html >> >> Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index >> >> http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ >> >> Lincolnshire Family History Society >> >> http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman >> > Sent: 21 March 2012 06:28 >> > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [LIN] bastardy >> > >> > I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can anyone >> > please help me. >> > Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 >> > mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman >> > Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man >> > The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber >> > Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey >> > >> > I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, >> > >> > Bev of Bribie Island >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- >> > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the >> > subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the >> subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4884 - Release Date: 03/21/12 > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4884 - Release Date: 03/21/12 >

Thanks once again I will try to solve the mystery, but what you have found seems good Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Cole" <anne.cole@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy > More info. Tried searching for Towle in the LQS docs and came across > putative father Thomas Cox in 1830. The Caistor Workhouse ref mentions > three > children in the same entry, Sarah Towle 10, Martha Towle 7 (dau of John > Cox) > and Wm Towle 4 (son of James Lester). The mother in the Thomas Cox case is > Elizabeth Towle. > > Some detective work needs to be done here. Have you tried the North Kelsey > baptism records on Lincs to the Past? > > Must dash, off to Archives. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman >> Sent: 21 March 2012 06:28 >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [LIN] bastardy >> >> I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can anyone >> please help me. >> Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 >> mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman >> Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man >> The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber >> Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey >> >> I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, >> >> Bev of Bribie Island >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the >> subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4882 - Release Date: 03/20/12 > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4882 - Release Date: 03/20/12 >

Thank you very much this certainly looks like her Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy >I checked the Caistor Workhouse Minutes Vol. 1 where in 1837 there is > mention of a Sarah Towle aged 10 illegitimate daughter of John Quickfall > of > North Kelsey. Could this be her? > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman >> Sent: 21 March 2012 06:28 >> To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [LIN] bastardy >> >> I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can anyone >> please help me. >> Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 >> mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman >> Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man >> The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber >> Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey >> >> I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, >> >> Bev of Bribie Island >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the >> subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4882 - Release Date: 03/20/12 > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4882 - Release Date: 03/20/12 >

Appologies – this is the main portal for the new search facility. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI From: David Meredith Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:55 AM To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] National Archives I have just come across a new search format for the National Archives which is possibly a beta version at present – apparently comes under their ‘Discovery’ badge. Anyway if you have not seen it, worth a look if only to view their new results format. David Nottingham http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/result/list?searchQuery=Cox%20AND%20Ripley

I have just come across a new search format for the National Archives which is possibly a beta version at present – apparently comes under their ‘Discovery’ badge. Anyway if you have not seen it, worth a look if only to view their new results format. David Nottingham http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/result/list?searchQuery=Cox%20AND%20Ripley

The baptism of Sarah daughter of Elizabeth Towle is here http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=63104 2&iid=374996 Maybe there is a mistake on the recognizance? It seems too much of a coincidence that John Quickfall should be the father of two illegitimate children in the same year, both mothers called Elizabeth, and the Caistor minutes show that Elizabeth Towle had two others with different fathers, presuming that these three children were siblings. I found the baptism of Martha fathered by Cox whilst looking through the N Kelsey register, in 1830 I think. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole > Sent: 21 March 2012 09:07 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LIN] bastardy > > More info. Tried searching for Towle in the LQS docs and came across > putative father Thomas Cox in 1830. The Caistor Workhouse ref mentions > three > children in the same entry, Sarah Towle 10, Martha Towle 7 (dau of John > Cox) > and Wm Towle 4 (son of James Lester). The mother in the Thomas Cox case is > Elizabeth Towle. > > Some detective work needs to be done here. Have you tried the North Kelsey > baptism records on Lincs to the Past? > > Must dash, off to Archives. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman > > Sent: 21 March 2012 06:28 > > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [LIN] bastardy > > > > I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can anyone > > please help me. > > Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 > > mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman > > Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man > > The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber > > Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey > > > > I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, > > > > Bev of Bribie Island > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can anyone please help me. Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, Bev of Bribie Island

More info. Tried searching for Towle in the LQS docs and came across putative father Thomas Cox in 1830. The Caistor Workhouse ref mentions three children in the same entry, Sarah Towle 10, Martha Towle 7 (dau of John Cox) and Wm Towle 4 (son of James Lester). The mother in the Thomas Cox case is Elizabeth Towle. Some detective work needs to be done here. Have you tried the North Kelsey baptism records on Lincs to the Past? Must dash, off to Archives. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman > Sent: 21 March 2012 06:28 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] bastardy > > I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can anyone > please help me. > Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 > mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman > Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man > The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber > Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey > > I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, > > Bev of Bribie Island > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

I checked the Caistor Workhouse Minutes Vol. 1 where in 1837 there is mention of a Sarah Towle aged 10 illegitimate daughter of John Quickfall of North Kelsey. Could this be her? Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J & B.H. Stegeman > Sent: 21 March 2012 06:28 > To: eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LIN] bastardy > > I am trying to find the illigitamate child of John Quickfall can anyone > please help me. > Bastardy Recognizance dated 14 May 1827 > mother Elizabeth Tomlinson singlewoman > Putative father John Quickfall of North Kelsey serving man > The Bondsman was Christopher Quickfall of Great Limber > Child will become chargeable to the parish of North Kelsey > > I cant find out if it was a boy or girl, > > Bev of Bribie Island > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Thanks Roger. Those sites could be helpful in other instances also. Carol Lylyk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Partridge" <rogerpartridge1934@gmail.com> To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Anne COLE" <duncalf@one-name.org>; "Carol Lylyk" <clylyk@telus.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Bastardy Cases in the Newspaper > Hi Anne, Carol & Listers ! > > There are some websites that will convert old money values into > present-day > values. Have a look at > > 1) http://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ppoweruk/ > > 2) http://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/ >

Hi Anne, Carol & Listers ! There are some websites that will convert old money values into present-day values. Have a look at 1) http://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ppoweruk/ 2) http://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/ I hope that they help ! Best Wishes ! Roger. ---------------------- On 20 Mar 2012, at 03:44, Carol Lylyk wrote: > Thanks Anne. It doesn't sound like much at todays rates but I > guess it could be > hard enough for these men to make the payments. I wonder if there > was any > follow up to make sure that they paid. > > Carol Lylyk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:05 AM > Subject: Re: [LIN] Bastardy Cases in the Newspaper > > >> Hello Carol, >> >> I can't answer your question about wages, but as you say the >> awards were >> made according to ability to pay. The highest amount that could be >> paid was >> 2s. 6d. In the workhouse minutes, 1s. 6d. is the amount most >> quoted as that >> which someone should pay to support a relative on poor relief. >> Therefore it >> must have been an amount affordable by most. >> >>> From 1844 the child had to be supported until it was 13 years of >>> age. >

George Joined Manchester police 07/07/1870 and had been in the royal marines for 7 yrs 9 months if that is of any help Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-lincsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of themindlady Sent: 20 March 2012 07:52 To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [LIN] Lincolnshire Royal Marines Three Fountain brothers, born 1839, 1840 and 1841 in West Barkwith, joined the Royal Marines at Woolwich, Kent in 1860. The eldest, William, was invalided out in 1876, the middle one, George, was invalided out in 1866 and the youngest, Thomas, died in Deal Barracks in 1871 of haematuria (blood in the urine) but the cause of this was not given on his death certificate. I have copies of the attestation papers for William and Thomas. They show that William had a big drink problem and he was discharged as suffering from imbecility. There is nothing in the paperwork about injury or illness. I did not get George's paperwork but I know he married, became a policeman and, I believe, emigrated to Canandaigua, New York with his wife and adult son. So, I think he cannot have been a long term invalid. I am wondering how three young brothers could be either invalids or dead within such a short time. Does anybody know if there were conflicts they could have been injured in during the period between 1860 and 1876? I suppose William's mental problems could have come from a head injury. He received a naval pension according to the 1911 census, so his imbecility is not likely to be alcoholic. I would appreciate any thoughts, as I have tried to Google wars etc without success. With kind regards, Shay ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:51:30 +0000 > Subject: [LIN] Lincolnshire Royal Marines > Three Fountain brothers, born 1839, 1840 and 1841 in West Barkwith, joined > the Royal Marines at Woolwich, Kent in 1860. ... > > I am wondering how three young brothers could be either invalids or dead > within such a short time. Does anybody know if there were conflicts they > could have been injured in during the period between 1860 and 1876? I > suppose William's mental problems could have come from a head injury. He > received a naval pension according to the 1911 census, so his imbecility is > not likely to be alcoholic. > A better search might be british military history timeline or Royal Marines history. Some possibilities: India in the aftermath of the 1857 uprising 1866-7 Fenian Uprising in Ireland Second Opium War (China 1856-1860) 2nd and 3rd Maori Wars (1860 to 1866) 2nd and 3rd Ashanti Wars (1863 to 1874)

Hi Anne, I wondered whether there was any way I could find this sort of report in the Barnsley, Yorkshire, newspapers. I have a huge brick wall in that my gg-grandfather was illegitimate - born in 1857 at the Barnsley Union Workhouse "father unknown" on the birth certificate. He took his mother's name. Cheers, Carol On 20 March 2012 14:44, Carol Lylyk <clylyk@telus.net> wrote: > Thanks Anne.  It doesn't sound like much at todays rates but I guess it could be > hard enough for these men to make the payments.  I wonder if there was any > follow up to make sure that they paid. > > Carol Lylyk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Cole" <duncalf@one-name.org> > To: <eng-lincsgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:05 AM > Subject: Re: [LIN] Bastardy Cases in the Newspaper > > >> Hello Carol, >> >> I can't answer your question about wages, but as you say the awards were >> made according to ability to pay. The highest amount that could be paid was >> 2s. 6d. In the workhouse minutes, 1s. 6d. is the amount most quoted as that >> which someone should pay to support a relative on poor relief. Therefore it >> must have been an amount affordable by most. >> >>>From 1844 the child had to be supported until it was 13 years of age. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, any of us who've been in the service, even in peacetime, can tell you it isn't the safest occupation!  Of course, I was in combat in a "conflict" which the politicians refused to call a war, and I've seen men sent home for alcohol or drug abuse.  I don't know if they thought they were doing him a favor by listing a cause for discharge that wasn't "drunk". My grandfather was in the Royal Army before the Great War and was kicked in the testicles by a  horse.  They discharged him as an invalid, but he went home to marry and have four children.  He was able to re-inlist during the war, probably because they were in need of experienced soldiers.     Lou ________________________________ From: themindlady <themindlady@gmail.com> To: ENG-LINCSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:51 AM Subject: [LIN] Lincolnshire Royal Marines Three Fountain brothers, born 1839, 1840 and 1841 in West Barkwith, joined the Royal Marines at Woolwich, Kent in 1860. The eldest, William, was invalided out in 1876, the middle one, George, was invalided out in 1866 and the youngest, Thomas, died in Deal Barracks in 1871 of haematuria (blood in the urine) but the cause of this was not given on his death certificate. I have copies of the attestation papers for William and Thomas. They show that William had a big drink problem and he was discharged as suffering from imbecility. There is nothing in the paperwork about injury or illness.  I did not get George's paperwork but I know he married, became a policeman and, I believe, emigrated to Canandaigua, New York with his wife and adult son. So, I think he cannot have been a long term invalid. I am wondering how three young brothers could be either invalids or dead within such a short time. Does anybody know if there were conflicts they could have been injured in during the period between 1860 and 1876? I suppose William's mental problems could have come from a head injury. He received a naval pension according to the 1911 census, so his imbecility is not likely to be alcoholic. I would appreciate any thoughts, as I have tried to Google wars etc without success. With kind regards, Shay ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message