In the village of Scotton Lincs we are currently researching men named on our War memorial (killed and those who served) if you had family with a connection to the area and willing to share any photo's info etc we would be very pleased. We do have access to Ancestry etc so have been able to find war records that are available. Thank You Bev Hill

Hi Pam Thanks I was undecided but was leaning more to 84! -----Original Message----- From: Pam Downes Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 5:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Hugh Blanchard, help reading age at burial. On the basis that 5's seem to be written quite clearly with a definite 'line' across the top, I would say 84. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/ On 22/02/2014 16:52, Maria Borrill wrote: > Hi All > > Could someone be so kind as to look at the burial of Hugh Blanchard in > 1793 > in Beelsby, I think he was buried on the 19th of August but can't > decipher/decide if he was 54 or 84 and help reading this would be > appreciated. > > http://www.lincstothepast.com/General-register/520413.record?ImageId=46046&pt=T > > Thanks > Maria > > > - ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi, Missing Lincs,     I've noticed that a few of our local parish councils decided to have an "onlien presence" a few years ago, but some of their websites haven't been updated since 2012 or earlier.  If your parish council hasn't posted anything to the website in a few years, are you still paying for that site out of council fees?     Does the website tell visitors anything about the local war memorial, the cemetery or the local school?  Why not?  Go to a council meeting and suggest that they let you contribute something to the website.  Oh, you can sneak in a bit of family history too, for all I care.  Pictures of GGGrandpa's shop.  No sweat.     Remind them that they need to engage the younger "Smart phone" generation and that a static website is NOT the way to do it.  Facebook is "old hat", but better than nothing.  What have they got to hide?  Don't be proud of having the oldest web page on the internet.     Put it on your calender NOW.  And give 'em Heck.           Lou (list admin.)

Hi Pam We are running in parallel <bg> The Charles Gosling KIRK with Maria was the most interesting but try as I might I couldn't find a James as a son of theirs I thought the HOLLINGSWORTH one might be he but no, all avenues lead down a blind alley Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/02/2014 19:22, Pam Downes wrote: > I found an entry on the 1851 census and was going 'oooh, interesting' > and then I re-read this message and noticed 'Millicent Kirk' which > explains a lot. :) > > On FreeREG I found the baptism of a Louisa Gossling to Charles and Maria > in Pinchbeck in 1846, which proved that Charles and Maria 'existed' as > parents. > No joy in finding them in the 1851, nor in 1861, but I did find Louisa,

I found an entry on the 1851 census and was going 'oooh, interesting' and then I re-read this message and noticed 'Millicent Kirk' which explains a lot. :) On FreeREG I found the baptism of a Louisa Gossling to Charles and Maria in Pinchbeck in 1846, which proved that Charles and Maria 'existed' as parents. No joy in finding them in the 1851, nor in 1861, but I did find Louisa, aged 15, born Pinchbeck living as niece in the household of James Laxton (Loxton?). RG09/2320 folio 75 page 2 Back to the 1851, searching for Louisa's born 1846 +/- 5 years in Pinchbeck. Clicking on the second of four results I got to Louisa Kirk. HO107/2096 folio 46 page 21 Father - Charles Gossling KIRK, mother Maria, and five siblings. One of whom is an 8 year-old John Chas. Further investigation reveals Charles Gossling KIRK married Maria LAXTON on 21 Feb 1839 in Pinchbeck. Charles gives his father's name as Wm GOSSLING. http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Spalding spreadsheet In 1861, Charles still has the surname KIRK. RG9/2320 folio 36 page 19 Baptism of John Charles KIRK, in the Pinchbeck registers. (Oct 1842). http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=543258&iid=335864 John C. KIRK in 1861, RG9/2320 folio 35 page 17, an apprentice shoemaker. I thought that John had changed his name to James and emigrated, but there is a John C Kirk, aged 28 born Pinchbeck, shoemaker living in Boston.//RG10/3340 folio 92 page 5. So that rather puts paid to that theory unless he quickly scooted back to the UK in time for the census. (nb - John transcribed in Ancestry's index as Keck.) Baptism of Charles Gosling, son of Miriam Kirk. (Halfway down left side) http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=711647&iid=335556 Marriage register for Pinchbeck 1800-1812 http://www.lincstothepast.com/Marriages/525484.record?pt=T So it seems so near, yet so far. :( Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/ On 22/02/2014 14:36, Ron Wingrove wrote: > The border crossing card dates 1915. > > He was married in Canada. > > I may have his date of birth wrong. When I double checked the 1881 Canadian > census he was 35 years old so that would put his date of birth 1846. > > The marriage cert. lists his parents as Charles and Maria Gossling. The only > problem with the cert. is that his wife's name is Jane Traviss. I am not > sure I have the right couple. > > This couple were not very careful with the spelling of names. Jane was an > Irish Catholic. When she married James Gossling her family was not happy. As > a matter of fact when her brother's found out she was marrying a protestant > the beat the heck out of James. That may account her spelling her name > differently. Her sister was in charge of her headstone when she died. For > the headstone she used the name Travis. > > Another document I found in my collection was a list of Pinchbeck marriages. > It lists a William Gossling marrying a Milicent Kirk 24 April 1807 and a > William Gossling marrying a Jane Gall 2 March 1773. > > > Thanks for your hard work > > Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 8:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LIN] Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire James Gossling > > So did he marry in another Country? > > Or in England? > > And does his marriage give his fathers name? > > What date is the border crossing card? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 22/02/2014 13:30, Ron Wingrove wrote: >> Thanks Nivard >> >> I am not sure when he came to Canada. I do know that he married in >> 1870. His wife was Jane Travers. >> >> I found the Border crossing card on ancestry. He was crossing at Buffalo. >> >> I can only assume that the spelling of the last name is correct >> because his son, my grandfather, was always adamant that Gossling was >> spelled with two s's. >> >> I have more info post 1870 but not much prior to that. >> >> Ron > > ------------------------------- >

Hi again Yes it does help to give the right year <g> From what I can see he is more likely to be born 1844 Given the location I would say you have the right marriage Do the births in Canada not give the mothers maiden name? The difference in surname is probably because she didn't know how to spell it herself, plus the clerk writing it may not have even asked Likewise GOSLING / GOSSLING Fixed spelling of surnames is a relatively modern thing, likewise keep an open mind re ages which can often vary, particularly I find when the bride is older than the groom The marriage being a transcript itself could also be prone to error, was she 28 and the transcriber read 24 for example Marriage James GOSSLING 25 King Ont born England bachelor labourer Parents Charles & Maria GOSSLING Jane TRAVISS 24 King Ont born Ireland spinster parents Francis & Ann TRAVISS witnesses Robert MCLINCHY & Mary CARNEY King date 4th March 1870 King religion of groom episcopalian religion of bride episcopalian By Rev Thomas ARGUE by licence Division King County York =============== 1871 Township of King, North York GOSLING James 27 born England labourer GOSLING Jane 29 born Ireland could not read or write GOSLING Anna M 4 months Canada =============== 1881 Vespra? Simcoe North Ontario GOSLING James 35 born England C of E farmer GOSLING Jane 36 born Ireland C of E GOSLING Annie 9 born Canada C of E GOSLING Sarah E 7 " " " GOSLING Isabelle 6 " " " GOSLING John Wm 4 " " " GOSLING Louisa 1 " " " =============== 1911 Barrie Simcoe South Ontario (with John & Lucy GOSSLING and family) GOSSLING James father Widower labourer in Coopers Shop born November 1844 England year of Imigration 1860 =============== 1915 Border Crossing GOSSLING James 71 widower Cooper born England last residence Barrie destination Buffalo New York =============== All of which does not help with his parentage as there are none that match, that is of course assuming he gave the right parents names and the clerk recorded them correctly Could his parents have emigrated with James? I would suggest checking the Parish records for Pinchbeck, not only baptisms but all events, marriages from say 1841 and also burials, if he was an only child, the reason may have been his mother and perhaps fathers early death You can search the PRs yourself online at http://www.lincstothepast.com/ Select advanced search and enter Pinchbeck PAR1 in the first box and 1844 in the second which should get you to the baptisms I am sure you will be able to find the others with a little experimentation These are images of the parish registers, you need to browse one page at a time Keep in mind the spellings ie note all that are similar to GOSLING I would also keep an eye open for any parentage of Charles & Maria, or any James born to a single mother There is certainly a GOS(S)LING presence in Pinchbeck in the period just not yours in the few pages I checked When you say another document in your collection, do you mean you have a proven link to those marriages, or have just noted them in case they were Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/02/2014 14:36, Ron Wingrove wrote: > The border crossing card dates 1915. > > He was married in Canada. > > I may have his date of birth wrong. When I double checked the 1881 Canadian > census he was 35 years old so that would put his date of birth 1846. > > The marriage cert. lists his parents as Charles and Maria Gossling. The only > problem with the cert. is that his wife's name is Jane Traviss. I am not > sure I have the right couple. > > This couple were not very careful with the spelling of names. Jane was an > Irish Catholic. When she married James Gossling her family was not happy. As > a matter of fact when her brother's found out she was marrying a protestant > the beat the heck out of James. That may account her spelling her name > differently. Her sister was in charge of her headstone when she died. For > the headstone she used the name Travis. > > Another document I found in my collection was a list of Pinchbeck marriages. > It lists a William Gossling marrying a Milicent Kirk 24 April 1807 and a > William Gossling marrying a Jane Gall 2 March 1773. > > > Thanks for your hard work > > Ron

On the basis that 5's seem to be written quite clearly with a definite 'line' across the top, I would say 84. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/ On 22/02/2014 16:52, Maria Borrill wrote: > Hi All > > Could someone be so kind as to look at the burial of Hugh Blanchard in 1793 > in Beelsby, I think he was buried on the 19th of August but can't > decipher/decide if he was 54 or 84 and help reading this would be > appreciated. > > http://www.lincstothepast.com/General-register/520413.record?ImageId=46046&pt=T > > Thanks > Maria > > > -

Pam's reply was very helpful in an unexpected area. I have used Free BMD for years and clicked on the specs, only to be disappointed that it seemed to produce no more info. What I now realise is that there was more to the page than showed on my screen - if I scrolled down. Also of help was the awareness that Charles' birth in March was not registered until the June quarter. I wonder how Ancestry will record that? Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [HOLMES to S. Africa as from mid 1890's]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pam Downes Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 10:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Charles HOLMES b 1880 or 1881 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire I would claim that your Charles is the one whose birth is registered in June quarter 1880, Spalding registration district. This district includes Pinchbeck where John, Lucy, other children and one-year old Charles are living in 1881. Not sure why you can't find your Charles in the birth registration book. On FreeBMD, click on the 'specs' beside the entry, and then click 'view the original'. Ah, the reason you can't find it using Ancestry is because if you click on the 'index' link it says that his birth was registered in Mar quarter 1880 and shows you the image for that quarter. His birth was registered June quarter 1880. Pam

Hi All Could someone be so kind as to look at the burial of Hugh Blanchard in 1793 in Beelsby, I think he was buried on the 19th of August but can't decipher/decide if he was 54 or 84 and help reading this would be appreciated. http://www.lincstothepast.com/General-register/520413.record?ImageId=46046&pt=T Thanks Maria --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

The births of their children list the mother's maiden name as Travis. The 1852 date of birth came from his headstone. The most common thread for this couple is that ages and names are very inconsistent. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire James Gossling Hi Pam We are running in parallel <bg> The Charles Gosling KIRK with Maria was the most interesting but try as I might I couldn't find a James as a son of theirs I thought the HOLLINGSWORTH one might be he but no, all avenues lead down a blind alley Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/02/2014 19:22, Pam Downes wrote: > I found an entry on the 1851 census and was going 'oooh, interesting' > and then I re-read this message and noticed 'Millicent Kirk' which > explains a lot. :) > > On FreeREG I found the baptism of a Louisa Gossling to Charles and > Maria in Pinchbeck in 1846, which proved that Charles and Maria > 'existed' as parents. > No joy in finding them in the 1851, nor in 1861, but I did find > Louisa, ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So did he marry in another Country? Or in England? And does his marriage give his fathers name? What date is the border crossing card? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/02/2014 13:30, Ron Wingrove wrote: > Thanks Nivard > > I am not sure when he came to Canada. I do know that he married in 1870. His > wife was Jane Travers. > > I found the Border crossing card on ancestry. He was crossing at Buffalo. > > I can only assume that the spelling of the last name is correct because his > son, my grandfather, was always adamant that Gossling was spelled with two > s's. > > I have more info post 1870 but not much prior to that. > > Ron

Hi Ron The problem you have, which no doubt you already know, is that there are no James GOSSLING births registered in Lincolnshire 1852 +/- 2 years Searching for just James GOS* b1852 +/- 2 years in Lincolnshire only finds one a James GOSTELOW registered in Boston reg district He though remains in England right up to 1911 There is a James G (Gall?) GOSSLING b1842 Pinchbeck but he remains in England to 1911 as well So your man was either not registered or that registration was not passed from the local office to the GRO Or for some reason he is using a different name, age or birthplace than that he was registered with So if you have more details please repost them When did he go to ???? (America/Canada or ??) Where did you find the border crossing card you mention? Do you have his fathers name? Do you have any more clues to go on? Saying he was a farmer does not narrow it down I am afraid ;-) NB its always best to start off a new post rather than use a previous one, if you look in the archives you will see why as its stranded within the thread of the previous post you used Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/02/2014 12:06, Ron Wingrove wrote: > Hello from Canada > > My great grandfather was James Gossling, born 1852. On a border crossing > card he lists his place of birth as Pinchbeck. He was an only child. Family > lore says that his father was a farmer who died while working in the fields. > James decided that was not going to happen to him so he came to Canada. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Ron Wingrove

Bill & Ann, The information you have found matches my own findings. The only thing that I can think of to substantiate my SA'n cousin is that in the 1881 census the "1" on the form (supposedly meaning age at LAST birthday should have been 1 MONTH. In the 1891 census he is recorded as 11 years old by his uncle who was head of the house he was living at on census night. I have asked my cousin to substantiate what she believes. I wonder if the south African researchers can throw up any SA'n records that prove/disprove my findings? Thanks for the assistance. Peter Holmes Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then Leicestershire)]. [HOLMES to S. Africa as from mid 1890's]. [DAVISON (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Widdowson Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2014 7:00 PM To: [email protected]; ZA-IB Immigation to S Africa Subject: Re: [LIN] Charles HOLMES b 1880 or 1881 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire Peter, See information from Jacky Clark's Lincolnshire and Fenland Families http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=linclinks&id=I7959 7 Regards, Ann

Hi Pam The Ancestry version of freebmd is the version as it stood in 2006 The Charles HOLMES presumed transcription error may have been entered after that as it differs from the freebmd correct entry or freebmd's entry has been corrected since Ancestry have long had a problem with the pre 1916 part of their GRO indexes, your example may not be part of this particular problem but its worth knowing anyway Where an entry is found in the Ancestry version of the freebmd index (1837 to 1915) you will find some hits have *no* image icon The reason being they are attributed to the wrong year For example On Ancestry England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Albert Edward Ovington Name: Albert Edward Ovington Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1915 Registration district: Guisborough Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 486 (no image linked, it states image not available) Freebmd returns just one birth for an Albert Edward OVINGTON Births Mar 1901 Ovington Albert Edward Guisbro' 9d 486 I have reported it several times but nothing has been done about it to date The moral of the story being to check freebmd first Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/02/2014 09:33, Pam Downes wrote: > I've already told you how Ancestry record it. Incorrectly. :) > > *The reason you can't find it using Ancestry is because if you click on > the 'index' link it says that his birth was registered in Mar quarter > 1880 and shows you the image for that quarter. His birth was registered > June quarter 1880.* > > Everything they have says March quarter 1880, when FreeBMD has the > correct quarter. > And considering Ancestry take their index for 1837-1915 events from the > FreeBMD index, I can't make out how they can make such a botch of things. > > Pam

The border crossing card dates 1915. He was married in Canada. I may have his date of birth wrong. When I double checked the 1881 Canadian census he was 35 years old so that would put his date of birth 1846. The marriage cert. lists his parents as Charles and Maria Gossling. The only problem with the cert. is that his wife's name is Jane Traviss. I am not sure I have the right couple. This couple were not very careful with the spelling of names. Jane was an Irish Catholic. When she married James Gossling her family was not happy. As a matter of fact when her brother's found out she was marrying a protestant the beat the heck out of James. That may account her spelling her name differently. Her sister was in charge of her headstone when she died. For the headstone she used the name Travis. Another document I found in my collection was a list of Pinchbeck marriages. It lists a William Gossling marrying a Milicent Kirk 24 April 1807 and a William Gossling marrying a Jane Gall 2 March 1773. Thanks for your hard work Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 8:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire James Gossling So did he marry in another Country? Or in England? And does his marriage give his fathers name? What date is the border crossing card? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/02/2014 13:30, Ron Wingrove wrote: > Thanks Nivard > > I am not sure when he came to Canada. I do know that he married in > 1870. His wife was Jane Travers. > > I found the Border crossing card on ancestry. He was crossing at Buffalo. > > I can only assume that the spelling of the last name is correct > because his son, my grandfather, was always adamant that Gossling was > spelled with two s's. > > I have more info post 1870 but not much prior to that. > > Ron ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've already told you how Ancestry record it. Incorrectly. :) *The reason you can't find it using Ancestry is because if you click on the 'index' link it says that his birth was registered in Mar quarter 1880 and shows you the image for that quarter. His birth was registered June quarter 1880.* Everything they have says March quarter 1880, when FreeBMD has the correct quarter. And considering Ancestry take their index for 1837-1915 events from the FreeBMD index, I can't make out how they can make such a botch of things. Pam Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/ On 22/02/2014 09:10, Peter HOLMES wrote: > Pam's reply was very helpful in an unexpected area. > > I have used Free BMD for years and clicked on the specs, only to be > disappointed that it seemed to produce no more info. > > What I now realise is that there was more to the page than showed on my > screen - if I scrolled down. > > Also of help was the awareness that Charles' birth in March was not > registered until the June quarter. I wonder how Ancestry will record that? > > Peter Holmes > Western Australia. Skype ; p.g.holmes > [HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Manthorpe, Spalding, Pinchbeck, Donington then > Leicestershire)]. [HOLMES to S. Africa as from mid 1890's]. [DAVISON > (Spalding, Donington, Ingoldmells, Skegness)]. [CRAGG (Lincolnshire, > Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire)] [FREER (Leicestershire)]. [RYLOTT & > WITHERINGTON (Anwick, N & S Kyme, N & S Rauceby, Surfleet, Gosberton Clough > etc., Spalding)] [RYLOTT (Ontario Canada & some in New York & Florida USA)] > Villages are in Lincolnshire unless stated. PLUS 4 DUTCH surname lines - > from Rotterdam area (in Dutch). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pam Downes > Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 10:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LIN] Charles HOLMES b 1880 or 1881 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire > > I would claim that your Charles is the one whose birth is registered in > June quarter 1880, Spalding registration district. This district > includes Pinchbeck where John, Lucy, other children and one-year old > Charles are living in 1881. > > Not sure why you can't find your Charles in the birth registration book. > On FreeBMD, click on the 'specs' beside the entry, and then click 'view > the original'. > > > Ah, the reason you can't find it using Ancestry is because if you click > on the 'index' link it says that his birth was registered in Mar quarter > 1880 and shows you the image for that quarter. His birth was registered > June quarter 1880. > > Pam > > > ------------------------------- > -- Proud to be a member of Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.co.uk/

Thanks Nivard I am not sure when he came to Canada. I do know that he married in 1870. His wife was Jane Travers. I found the Border crossing card on ancestry. He was crossing at Buffalo. I can only assume that the spelling of the last name is correct because his son, my grandfather, was always adamant that Gossling was spelled with two s's. I have more info post 1870 but not much prior to that. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire James Gossling Hi Ron The problem you have, which no doubt you already know, is that there are no James GOSSLING births registered in Lincolnshire 1852 +/- 2 years Searching for just James GOS* b1852 +/- 2 years in Lincolnshire only finds one a James GOSTELOW registered in Boston reg district He though remains in England right up to 1911 There is a James G (Gall?) GOSSLING b1842 Pinchbeck but he remains in England to 1911 as well So your man was either not registered or that registration was not passed from the local office to the GRO Or for some reason he is using a different name, age or birthplace than that he was registered with So if you have more details please repost them When did he go to ???? (America/Canada or ??) Where did you find the border crossing card you mention? Do you have his fathers name? Do you have any more clues to go on? Saying he was a farmer does not narrow it down I am afraid ;-) NB its always best to start off a new post rather than use a previous one, if you look in the archives you will see why as its stranded within the thread of the previous post you used Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/02/2014 12:06, Ron Wingrove wrote: > Hello from Canada > > My great grandfather was James Gossling, born 1852. On a border > crossing card he lists his place of birth as Pinchbeck. He was an only > child. Family lore says that his father was a farmer who died while working in the fields. > James decided that was not going to happen to him so he came to Canada. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Ron Wingrove ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Charles, that would be really wonderful. I dont know of William Blyth DALTON. Not the same immediate family. There was just Witton and Basil regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW -----Original Message----- From: Charles Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] {Spam?} Witton Kenworthy DALTON 1886-1816 Should be able to obtain a photograph of the Grave Marker in the next few week, please contact me direct, there is a grave marker in Brumby Cemetery for Cpl. William Blyth Dalton. If of interest. Regards Charles -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of marg o'leary Sent: 21 February 2014 07:28 To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] {Spam?} Witton Kenworthy DALTON 1886-1816 Hi all new to the list and wondering if anyone can help. Found this on the net. Witton Kenworthy DALTON "Named on Queen Elizabeth Grammar School Roll of Honour, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England. Youngest son of the late Wilton Dalton (manager of the Gainsborough branch of the Sheffield Bank, of Morton). Embarked on HMAS Beltana 9.11.15 at Sydney. Lived in Wilcannia NSW. Remembered on a family headstone in North Warren Cemetery, Gainsborough? Also of his son? Missing in France July 19th 1915 R.I.P?" I wonder if anyone has a list of headstones for that cemetery. Would like to know what the transcription says. As far as I know Witton never married. I dont know how or when he got to Australia to join up in 1915. He died in 1916 (not 1915 as above) I am actually trying to find if any family members are still around Lincolnshire. Both his father and grandfather were Witton. His mother's family, the Taylors, come from Sheffield, and have tracked back to Edna Kenworthy married William Taylor, a merchant from Brussels. And further back her parents. William Kenworthy married Sophia ? about 1800. And there it ends. Happy for any help with resources in Lincolnshire regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Victor it is definitely Witton, not Wilton although there is a tendency for Wilton to creep in if reading hand writng eg in army records. Both his father and Grandfather were also Witton . Witton was in the 1911 census in England with his aunt Ellen Dalton, so did not spend much time in Australia before signing up for war and presumably went alone, cant find him on a ship but found this... "Missing Persons in Police Gazette, NSW 17 March 1915 Ditton Kenworthy DALTON About 35 years of age, 6 feet high, slight build, fair complexion, light brown hair, clean shaved, blue eyes, large nose, scar around his throat from a razor, Dressed in a light grey sac suit, grey soft hat, black lace up boots, a clerk, an Englishman, Inquiry at the instance of the chief constable, Sheffield, England, IR 1815 104" I wondered about the scar as the inference seems to be self inflicted, and to have just disappeared must have made family very worried. He ended up in Wilcannia NSW apaprently for a time, (a long way from anywhere then) . and then joined the army in Liverpool NSW. He must have written to his family at some stage as his only sibling Basil and his aunt Ellen wrote to the Army on many occasions, trying to establish what had happened to him. For most of the missing soldiers, they were presumed to be prisoners of war so many families did not find out until much later that they had died. So I do hope to find out what the family grave stone says. And .. as my task is to find a family member... hope to do that. I am looking for his grand mother's family, Kenworthy from Saddleworth. regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW -----Original Message----- From: Victor Markham Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] {Spam?} Witton Kenworthy DALTON 1886-1816 Should that be Wilton? Have you checked this. It lists the Daltons in Australia http://www.ericles.com/ego/cache/daltondata2.htm

Hello from Canada My great grandfather was James Gossling, born 1852. On a border crossing card he lists his place of birth as Pinchbeck. He was an only child. Family lore says that his father was a farmer who died while working in the fields. James decided that was not going to happen to him so he came to Canada. Any help would be appreciated. Ron Wingrove ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message