This was clearly a ploy by Lou to see if we were paying attention Equally clearly we were not <g> And you were :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/06/2014 21:51, Judy wrote: > Hi Lou > > That's for July, what are we doing for June. > > Judy

Every know and then a child gets a Nickname and you hope it doesn't stick for life. My second daughter earned the nickname "Fingers" because she had to touch everything. We were in dread that she'd burn herself or pull something down on herself. Taking her to the store was a trial because she had to touch everything - fresh, frozen, cans, bread, etc. She was also the clumsy child - could not walk down our hallway without bouncing off of each wall. Once dropped a tool on her knee and cut it to the bone. Amazingly, she lived to become an adult, has all her fingers and toes. We still wonder what the "crime scene investigators" would find if they searched our house. "There's blood in this hallway!" We became extra protective of her, but we had to. Lovely young woman now. Works for a Pathologist. We don't call her "Fingers" anymore. Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hank & Joan Van Daalen" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:32:33 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme I had a number of replies, so my problem is solved and Emma is found. Thanks to all who responded. I knew I could rely on the list. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank & Joan Van Daalen Sent: June 3, 2014 8:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Yes, I do have a mystery girl called Emma 'Majig' apparently so called because she couldn't stand still. She was informally adopted by my great grandmother who already had 10 children. I only know of her existence through my mother, and now that you have raised the subject, I'd better get on it because she would have been in the 1911 census which I haven't looked at lately. Thanks for the prompt. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: June 2, 2014 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Hi, Missing Lincs, Joan Van Daalen suggested (almost five years ago) that we set a monthly theme of "Tying up loose ends". Most of us have a note or two on someone in our trees (or maybe not YET in our trees) that we need more information on. Maybe your relatives took them in out of pity but then couldn't get rid of them. Who the Heck were they? I've got few that show up in the census returns, but I've never found them anywhere else. So, how can we help? Joan, got any loose ends? Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some days you feel like the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz, other days you feel like the witch! Tis only June? But time is slipping by so fast. Is your calendar even turned over yet? I know Nivard pays attention. The best way to tell, Nivard, is to post an error to the list. OK, so let's do this for June. I just want to see you guys work at this, not just sit there and hope someone is gonna post your family tree for you! Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:51:50 PM Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Hi Lou That's for July, what are we doing for June. Judy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2014 6:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Hi, Missing Lincs, Joan Van Daalen suggested (almost five years ago) that we set a monthly theme of "Tying up loose ends". Most of us have a note or two on someone in our trees (or maybe not YET in our trees) that we need more information on. Maybe your relatives took them in out of pity but then couldn't get rid of them. Who the Heck were they? I've got few that show up in the census returns, but I've never found them anywhere else. So, how can we help? Joan, got any loose ends? Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3955/7606 - Release Date: 06/02/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3955/7612 - Release Date: 06/02/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joan, I have the 1911 for the Pecks at Grimby do you want it on this site or direct to you, if the latter send email. John Cambridge -------Original Message------- From: Hank & Joan Van Daalen Date: 03/06/2014 13:53:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. Note: July Theme Does anyone have the 1911 census? I don't want to take a new membership for One name. If so, Emma would have been in the household of Frederick George PECK born 1861 at Rotherhithe living at census time at Grimsby. TIA Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank & Joan Van Daalen Sent: June 3, 2014 8:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. Note: July Theme Yes, I do have a mystery girl called Emma 'Majig' apparently so called Because she couldn't stand still. She was informally adopted by my great Grandmother who already had 10 children. I only know of her existence Through my mother, and now that you have raised the subject, I'd better get On it because she would have been in the 1911 census which I haven't looked At lately. Thanks for the prompt. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: June 2, 2014 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] Admin. Note: July Theme Hi, Missing Lincs, Joan Van Daalen suggested (almost five years ago) that we set a monthly Theme of "Tying up loose ends". Most of us have a note or two on someone in Our trees (or maybe not YET in our trees) that we need more information on. Maybe your relatives took them in out of pity but then couldn't get rid of Them. Who the Heck were they? I've got few that show up in the census Returns, but I've never found them anywhere else. So, how can we help? Joan, got any loose ends? Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the Quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the Quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have it do you want it on here? John -------Original Message------- From: Hank & Joan Van Daalen Date: 03/06/2014 13:53:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. Note: July Theme Does anyone have the 1911 census? I don't want to take a new membership for One name. If so, Emma would have been in the household of Frederick George PECK born 1861 at Rotherhithe living at census time at Grimsby. TIA Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank & Joan Van Daalen Sent: June 3, 2014 8:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. Note: July Theme Yes, I do have a mystery girl called Emma 'Majig' apparently so called Because she couldn't stand still. She was informally adopted by my great Grandmother who already had 10 children. I only know of her existence Through my mother, and now that you have raised the subject, I'd better get On it because she would have been in the 1911 census which I haven't looked At lately. Thanks for the prompt. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: June 2, 2014 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] Admin. Note: July Theme Hi, Missing Lincs, Joan Van Daalen suggested (almost five years ago) that we set a monthly Theme of "Tying up loose ends". Most of us have a note or two on someone in Our trees (or maybe not YET in our trees) that we need more information on. Maybe your relatives took them in out of pity but then couldn't get rid of Them. Who the Heck were they? I've got few that show up in the census Returns, but I've never found them anywhere else. So, how can we help? Joan, got any loose ends? Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the Quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the Quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had a number of replies, so my problem is solved and Emma is found. Thanks to all who responded. I knew I could rely on the list. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank & Joan Van Daalen Sent: June 3, 2014 8:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Yes, I do have a mystery girl called Emma 'Majig' apparently so called because she couldn't stand still. She was informally adopted by my great grandmother who already had 10 children. I only know of her existence through my mother, and now that you have raised the subject, I'd better get on it because she would have been in the 1911 census which I haven't looked at lately. Thanks for the prompt. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: June 2, 2014 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Hi, Missing Lincs, Joan Van Daalen suggested (almost five years ago) that we set a monthly theme of "Tying up loose ends". Most of us have a note or two on someone in our trees (or maybe not YET in our trees) that we need more information on. Maybe your relatives took them in out of pity but then couldn't get rid of them. Who the Heck were they? I've got few that show up in the census returns, but I've never found them anywhere else. So, how can we help? Joan, got any loose ends? Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan, you wrote: > Does anyone have the 1911 census? [...] Emma would have been in the household of Frederick George > PECK born 1861 at Rotherhithe living at census time at Grimsby. Does this one seem to fit Note Greenwich in lieu of Rotherhithe. Denny (Perth Ontario) 1911 England Census Name: Frederick George Peck Age in 1911: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Greenwich, Kent, England Civil Parish: Cleethorpes County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: 163 Daubney St Grimsby Marital Status: Married Occupation: Trawler Fisherman Registration district: Grimsby Registration District Number: 422 Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Piece: 19982 Household Members: Name Age Frederick George Peck 49 Clara Mary Ann Peck 47 Joseph Ernest Peck 19 Annie Elizabeth Clarey Peck 17 Rose Emma Peck 12 Selena Ethel Peck 6 James Henry Peck 4

Does anyone have the 1911 census? I don't want to take a new membership for one name. If so, Emma would have been in the household of Frederick George PECK born 1861 at Rotherhithe living at census time at Grimsby. TIA Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank & Joan Van Daalen Sent: June 3, 2014 8:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Yes, I do have a mystery girl called Emma 'Majig' apparently so called because she couldn't stand still. She was informally adopted by my great grandmother who already had 10 children. I only know of her existence through my mother, and now that you have raised the subject, I'd better get on it because she would have been in the 1911 census which I haven't looked at lately. Thanks for the prompt. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: June 2, 2014 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Hi, Missing Lincs, Joan Van Daalen suggested (almost five years ago) that we set a monthly theme of "Tying up loose ends". Most of us have a note or two on someone in our trees (or maybe not YET in our trees) that we need more information on. Maybe your relatives took them in out of pity but then couldn't get rid of them. Who the Heck were they? I've got few that show up in the census returns, but I've never found them anywhere else. So, how can we help? Joan, got any loose ends? Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I do have a mystery girl called Emma 'Majig' apparently so called because she couldn't stand still. She was informally adopted by my great grandmother who already had 10 children. I only know of her existence through my mother, and now that you have raised the subject, I'd better get on it because she would have been in the 1911 census which I haven't looked at lately. Thanks for the prompt. Joan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: June 2, 2014 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LIN] Admin. note: July Theme Hi, Missing Lincs, Joan Van Daalen suggested (almost five years ago) that we set a monthly theme of "Tying up loose ends". Most of us have a note or two on someone in our trees (or maybe not YET in our trees) that we need more information on. Maybe your relatives took them in out of pity but then couldn't get rid of them. Who the Heck were they? I've got few that show up in the census returns, but I've never found them anywhere else. So, how can we help? Joan, got any loose ends? Lou (list admin.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My great-great grandfather left South Lincolnshire to work in the mines in the Guisborough area of North Yorkshire after the death of his father in 1876. His son moved back to Lincolnshire and worked for some time in the ironstone mine somewhere at the end of Monks Road in Lincoln. His son worked for a number of years at the ironstone mine at Nettleton until its closure in the 1960s or possibly early 1970s. Another unrelated ancestor was listed as a mine worker in Claxby (near Nettleton) in 1881. This job must have been short lived as previously he had been an ag. lab. and returned to the job some years later. It seems clear that many people fron South Lincolnshire and Norfolk moved north in the search for work. It must have been very different from the farming most of them were used to. I still remember my great-grandfather's brother holding up his hands and advising me never to dirty them! I followed his advice I'm pleased to say. Best wishes, Mark > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 10:50:03 +0100 > Subject: Re: [LIN] Mining in Lincolnshire > > A book that some of you may have is "Lincolnshire" by John Bygott in the > County Book series (pub 1952). His interest was geography and in it he > discusses at some length the occurrence of iron deposits in Lincolnshire. > One of the comments he makes is: > "The Scunthorpe district is now one of the most important sources of supply > [of iron ore] despite the disadvantage of being away from the coalfields. > Coal undoubtedly exists locally, but at so great a depth that the difficulty > and expense entailed in its exploitation would not be commensurate with the > result, so it is cheaper and more convenient to bring supplies from the > York, Derby and Nottingham Coalfield." > > I remember John Bygott well. He taught at Humberston Foundation School > (Clee Grammar) which I attended during the war years. > > Another good discussion on geology and mining in Lincolnshire is to be found > in the later editions of Kelly's Directories. Apparently in 1878 a deep > boring was made at South Scarle almost on the County Boundary, where at just > over 2,000 ft there was some indication of coal measures. Borings in 1893 > at Haxey prove that important coal measures lie under the Isle of Axholme. > "Up to the present time (reading from the 1926 edition) coal has not been > worked to any appreciable extent in the county". > > This is all academic now, of course. Shall we ever see mining for coal in > Lincolnshire (or any where else in Britain for that matter)? Except for > fracking of course but that's another matter! > > Antony > > > > The article was about all kinds of mining. As I recall, some coal was mined > in Lincolnshire, but we didn't have the nice thick seams of coal that they > had in Leicestershire and Derbyshire. Of course, we don't have the > subsidence problems now either, not to the same extent. When you dig out a > nine foot thick seam of coal, the land and building above tend to settle a > bit. The Romans liked the silver and lead from Derbyshire, which is one > reason they wanted the isle in their empire. > > But Iron made Scunthorpe. And Sheffield. Remember those opening scenes > from "The Full Monty"? And we had plenty of Limestone and Granite. I know > that in Derbyshire, some mines were used as Air Raid shelters during World > War II, but I don't know of any in Lincolnshire that had that honor. > > Lou > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you haven't been to a traditional "Ceilidh", well Scawby parish is having one this Friday. I've only been to one, up by Loch Lomond, and the accents were heavy and the emotions raw and deep. Singing, poetry, story-telling. All good fun. Aye, and they're roastin' a fat pig, too. Now it's at the village hall at 7:30 and you must buy a ticket. See: http://www.scawbyvillage.co.uk/#!scawby-gala-weekend-2014/c6ah Tell them you're a relative. A few of you MUST be! Lou (list troublemaker)

Hi, Missing Lincs, Joan Van Daalen suggested (almost five years ago) that we set a monthly theme of "Tying up loose ends". Most of us have a note or two on someone in our trees (or maybe not YET in our trees) that we need more information on. Maybe your relatives took them in out of pity but then couldn't get rid of them. Who the Heck were they? I've got few that show up in the census returns, but I've never found them anywhere else. So, how can we help? Joan, got any loose ends? Lou (list admin.)

A book that some of you may have is "Lincolnshire" by John Bygott in the County Book series (pub 1952). His interest was geography and in it he discusses at some length the occurrence of iron deposits in Lincolnshire. One of the comments he makes is: "The Scunthorpe district is now one of the most important sources of supply [of iron ore] despite the disadvantage of being away from the coalfields. Coal undoubtedly exists locally, but at so great a depth that the difficulty and expense entailed in its exploitation would not be commensurate with the result, so it is cheaper and more convenient to bring supplies from the York, Derby and Nottingham Coalfield." I remember John Bygott well. He taught at Humberston Foundation School (Clee Grammar) which I attended during the war years. Another good discussion on geology and mining in Lincolnshire is to be found in the later editions of Kelly's Directories. Apparently in 1878 a deep boring was made at South Scarle almost on the County Boundary, where at just over 2,000 ft there was some indication of coal measures. Borings in 1893 at Haxey prove that important coal measures lie under the Isle of Axholme. "Up to the present time (reading from the 1926 edition) coal has not been worked to any appreciable extent in the county". This is all academic now, of course. Shall we ever see mining for coal in Lincolnshire (or any where else in Britain for that matter)? Except for fracking of course but that's another matter! Antony The article was about all kinds of mining. As I recall, some coal was mined in Lincolnshire, but we didn't have the nice thick seams of coal that they had in Leicestershire and Derbyshire. Of course, we don't have the subsidence problems now either, not to the same extent. When you dig out a nine foot thick seam of coal, the land and building above tend to settle a bit. The Romans liked the silver and lead from Derbyshire, which is one reason they wanted the isle in their empire. But Iron made Scunthorpe. And Sheffield. Remember those opening scenes from "The Full Monty"? And we had plenty of Limestone and Granite. I know that in Derbyshire, some mines were used as Air Raid shelters during World War II, but I don't know of any in Lincolnshire that had that honor. Lou

Hello Jay, Many thanks for that. Did you get the reply I sent to Pamela? John -------Original Message------- From: sinebeg Date: 05/31/14 23:43:14 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Brumby family Alford John Is the maiden name of the sisters Brice? 61 Lisle Road, Colchester Emily Eleanor Richardson 42 George WIlliam Richardson 3 Jane Brice 71 Class: RG14; Piece: 10294; Schedule Number: 287. ED10 Parish Colchester Regn Colchester Sub-regn Colchester South East If this is not her can we we have the maiden name and birth date of the Emily please? Jay On 01-Jun-14 1:19 AM, John Richardson wrote: Hello the list. I am having great difficulty with an ancestor who was resident in ALFORD on The 1911 census entry for GEORGE BRUMBY and his wife MARY JANE. A certain ALBERT RICHARDSON He, ALBERT RICHARDSON, aged 7, is listed as 'nephew' on that census. He was the child of the sister of MARY JANE a certain EMILY ELEANOR RICHARDSON; wife of ALBERT RICHARDSON (Scots Guards 1892-1905); who it seems Was at No1 Camp! ( Whatever that was) in ALFORD? At some stage around 1899 When they married in ALFORd church on January 16th 1899 under the Supervision of A.G.K.SIMPSON, vicar. Shortly after this wedding, ALBERT senior went off to fight the BOERS in South Africa. He returned in 1902. ALBERT junior was born on 16th December 1903. Baptised on 28th December 1903 Both these events are recorded in the Army Register of Births and Deaths, Which states the baptism took place in the Guards Chapel at Chelsea barracks I can find no trace of ALBERT after 1911. Indeed I can find no trace of his Parents after his birth in 1903. Did ALBERT junior remain in ALFORD after 1911? Are any of his descendants living there now? I would be most grateful for any assistance John Richardson Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [1][email protected] Ootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and t He body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, I have to admit, I did not know that we dug for ironstone at Lincoln. I did find four websites that should interest our history buffs: List of Mines worked under the Coal Mines Regulation Act, in Lincolnshire, during the Year 1896. http://www.pdmhs.com/1896%20Lists/1896-44.htm Mid-Lincolnshire Ironstone Co. http://www.photrek.co.uk/greetwellironstone.html History of Scunthorpe http://www.visitoruk.com/Scunthorpe/?id=1096&cid=1207&f=Scunthorpe Peat cutting and mining http://www.lincstrust.org.uk/news/2013/11/13/level-best Lou (list admin.)

The article was about all kinds of mining. As I recall, some coal was mined in Lincolnshire, but we didn't have the nice thick seams of coal that they had in Leicestershire and Derbyshire. Of course, we don't have the subsidence problems now either, not to the same extent. When you dig out a nine foot thick seam of coal, the land and building above tend to settle a bit. The Romans liked the silver and lead from Derbyshire, which is one reason they wanted the isle in their empire. But Iron made Scunthorpe. And Sheffield. Remember those opening scenes from "The Full Monty"? And we had plenty of Limestone and Granite. I know that in Derbyshire, some mines were used as Air Raid shelters during World War II, but I don't know of any in Lincolnshire that had that honor. Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wells" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 1:02:33 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Mining in Lincolnshire I am not sure where this article mentions coal mining in Lincolnshire. Iron Ore quarrying in the Jurassic limestone yes, but that's a whole different industry to coal mining. Terry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 May 2014 23:01 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Mining in Lincolnshire Oh, Aye, there was mining for coal in Lincolnshire. See: http://mininghistory.thehumanjourney.net/edu/EastMidlandsIntro.shtml Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill stratton" <[email protected]> To: "elaine westaway" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 6:49:33 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Mining in Lincolnshire There must of been Coal Mining somewhere in Lincolnshire' from the Grantham Cemetery Register SOAR Hannah Buried 27 Mar 1909 Age 18 Female Died New Somerby Father Occ. Coal Miner Burial Spot 13 II 20 Bill Stratton ----- Original Message ----- From: "elaine westaway" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [LIN] Mining in Lincolnshire > Dear Kate > > Thank you for that info, but you are both right and wrong, there was a > mine shaft sunk at Woodhall as it then was in 1821 by John Parkinson in an > attempt to find coal as most of what was used in Lincolnshire came from > the Pennines at that time, but none was found, all that was found was a > conduit of salty water, following an accident during some work with > explosives in the mine and a resulting fatality the mine shaft was closed > and wooden planks laid over the top, but with a couple of years the mine > shaft was full of the salty water and it was bubbling up over the top, it > as then noticed that cattle who had drunk from the water where cured of > some ailments and when the local lord of the manor tried some and found it > help with his gout, he initially built a small bath house over the spring > and later turned it into a spa hence the former village of Woodhall became > the town of Woodhall spa. so the reason that the town has mine workings in > it's sign is that > without the ill-fated attempt at mining there would have been no spa town. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Is the maiden name of the sisters Brice? 61 Lisle Road, Colchester Emily Eleanor Richardson 42 George WIlliam Richardson 3 Jane Brice 71 Class: RG14; Piece: 10294; Schedule Number: 287. ED10 Parish Colchester Regn Colchester Sub-regn Colchester South East If this is not her can we we have the maiden name and birth date of the Emily please? Jay On 01-Jun-14 1:19 AM, John Richardson wrote: Hello the list. I am having great difficulty with an ancestor who was resident in ALFORD on the 1911 census entry for GEORGE BRUMBY and his wife MARY JANE. A certain ALBERT RICHARDSON He, ALBERT RICHARDSON, aged 7, is listed as 'nephew' on that census. He was the child of the sister of MARY JANE a certain EMILY ELEANOR RICHARDSON; wife of ALBERT RICHARDSON (Scots Guards 1892-1905); who it seems was at No1 Camp! ( Whatever that was) in ALFORD? At some stage around 1899 when they married in ALFORd church on January 16th 1899 under the supervision of A.G.K.SIMPSON, vicar. Shortly after this wedding, ALBERT senior went off to fight the BOERS in South Africa. He returned in 1902. ALBERT junior was born on 16th December 1903. Baptised on 28th December 1903 Both these events are recorded in the Army Register of Births and Deaths, which states the baptism took place in the Guards Chapel at Chelsea barracks I can find no trace of ALBERT after 1911. Indeed I can find no trace of his parents after his birth in 1903. Did ALBERT junior remain in ALFORD after 1911? Are any of his descendants living there now? I would be most grateful for any assistance John Richardson Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [1][email protected] ootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and t he body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected]

Hello Pamela, Well well it looks as though you found them in 1911! The meagre details on the census sort of fit, plus the fact that mother married again, which explains BRICE and not LLOYD I wonder where ALBERT senior got to! He was actually born in Worcester but the family moved to Liverpool with father CHARLES. They were both Iron Moulders. ALBERT junior was correct then as being in ALFORD on the 1911. Many many thanks. I don't think I can go much further with this now. Things get difficult after 1911 and I am 76 and a carer so can't travel too far. I hope Pamela's answers have answered your query Jay! Kind regards John Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire -------Original Message------- From: PAMELA BAILLIE Date: 06/01/14 00:15:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LIN] Brumby family Alford Lincolnshire marriage index gives marriage of George Brumby to Mary Jane LLOYD her father stated as GeorgeWilliam Albert Richardson marries Emily Eleanor LLOYD her father stated as James I think I have found them in 1871 with mother Jane Lloyd wid of 31 in Shoreditch. Mary Jane b1860 has a previous marriage to Alexander T McKECHNIE 1882. (dau Emily Edith). 1861 census Hoxton Old Town Shoreditch, Jane with husband George, daughters Caroline and Mary Ann 7mts? 191161 Lisle Rd Colchester Albert Richardson hd 42 coffee bar cook Liverpool all crossed out Emily Eleanor Richardson 42 married 12yrs 2 children still living Albert Richardson son 7 crossed out George William son 3 b Colchester Jane Brice mother wid 71 b Shoreditch ________________________________ From: John Richardson [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 31 May 2014, 16:19 Subject: [LIN] Brumby family Alford Hello the list. I am having great difficulty with an ancestor who was resident in ALFORD on The 1911 census entry for GEORGE BRUMBY and his wife MARY JANE. A certain ALBERT RICHARDSON He, ALBERT RICHARDSON, aged 7, is listed as 'nephew' on that census. He was the child of the sister of MARY JANE a certain EMILY ELEANOR RICHARDSON; wife of ALBERT RICHARDSON (Scots Guards 1892-1905); who it seems Was at No1 Camp! ( Whatever that was) in ALFORD? At some stage around 1899 When they married in ALFORd church on January 16th 1899 under the Supervision of A.G.K.SIMPSON, vicar. Shortly after this wedding, ALBERT senior went off to fight the BOERS in South Africa. He returned in 1902. ALBERT junior was born on 16th December 1903. Baptised on 28th December 1903 Both these events are recorded in the Army Register of Births and Deaths, Which states the baptism took place in the Guards Chapel at Chelsea barracks I can find no trace of ALBERT after 1911. Indeed I can find no trace of his Parents after his birth in 1903. Did ALBERT junior remain in ALFORD after 1911? Are any of his descendants living there now? I would be most grateful for any assistance John Richardson Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .

Plus Jane LLOYD marries Joseph BRICE  Septq 1897 Islington ________________________________ From: John Richardson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 31 May 2014, 16:19 Subject: [LIN] Brumby family Alford Hello the list. I am having great difficulty with an ancestor who was resident in ALFORD on the 1911 census entry for GEORGE BRUMBY and his wife MARY JANE. A certain ALBERT RICHARDSON He, ALBERT RICHARDSON, aged 7, is listed as 'nephew' on that census. He was the child of the sister of MARY JANE a certain EMILY ELEANOR RICHARDSON; wife of ALBERT RICHARDSON (Scots Guards 1892-1905); who it seems was at No1 Camp! ( Whatever that was) in ALFORD? At some stage around 1899 when they married in ALFORd church on January 16th 1899 under the supervision of A.G.K.SIMPSON, vicar. Shortly after this wedding, ALBERT senior went off to fight the BOERS in South Africa. He returned in 1902. ALBERT junior was born on 16th December 1903. Baptised on 28th December 1903 Both these events are recorded in the Army Register of Births and Deaths, which states the baptism took place in the Guards Chapel at Chelsea barracks I can find no trace of ALBERT after 1911. Indeed I can find no trace of his parents after his birth in 1903. Did ALBERT junior remain in ALFORD after 1911? Are any of his descendants living there now? I would be most grateful for any assistance John Richardson Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lincolnshire marriage index gives marriage of George Brumby to Mary Jane LLOYD her father stated as GeorgeWilliam Albert Richardson marries Emily Eleanor LLOYD her father stated as James I think I have found them in 1871 with mother Jane Lloyd wid of 31 in Shoreditch. Mary Jane b1860 has a previous marriage to Alexander T McKECHNIE 1882. (dau Emily Edith). 1861 census Hoxton Old Town Shoreditch, Jane with husband George, daughters Caroline and Mary Ann 7mts? 191161 Lisle Rd Colchester Albert Richardson hd 42  coffee bar cook Liverpool all crossed out Emily Eleanor Richardson 42 married 12yrs 2 children still living Albert Richardson son 7 crossed out George William son 3 b Colchester Jane Brice mother wid 71 b Shoreditch ________________________________ From: John Richardson [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 31 May 2014, 16:19 Subject: [LIN] Brumby family Alford Hello the list. I am having great difficulty with an ancestor who was resident in ALFORD on the 1911 census entry for GEORGE BRUMBY and his wife MARY JANE. A certain ALBERT RICHARDSON He, ALBERT RICHARDSON, aged 7, is listed as 'nephew' on that census. He was the child of the sister of MARY JANE a certain EMILY ELEANOR RICHARDSON; wife of ALBERT RICHARDSON (Scots Guards 1892-1905); who it seems was at No1 Camp! ( Whatever that was) in ALFORD? At some stage around 1899 when they married in ALFORd church on January 16th 1899 under the supervision of A.G.K.SIMPSON, vicar. Shortly after this wedding, ALBERT senior went off to fight the BOERS in South Africa. He returned in 1902. ALBERT junior was born on 16th December 1903. Baptised on 28th December 1903 Both these events are recorded in the Army Register of Births and Deaths, which states the baptism took place in the Guards Chapel at Chelsea barracks I can find no trace of ALBERT after 1911. Indeed I can find no trace of his parents after his birth in 1903. Did ALBERT junior remain in ALFORD after 1911? Are any of his descendants living there now? I would be most grateful for any assistance John Richardson Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message