Hi Listers, I am seeking some help with information for JOHN HARRISON, who married ANN ROBINSON on 8th July, 1788 at Sephton, Lancashire. This is the only date I have for them - do not know births or deaths or parents. Apparently they lived at Litherland between 1788 to 1792 and at Orrill in 1793. They then settled at Sephton and had at least 11 children. Are Litherland and Orrill also in Lancashire? Known children were Henry - buried 25th August, 1799 Henry, born 24/9/1788 Litherland and buried 31/5/1792 at Sephton Margaret, christened 9th June 1793 Sephton Alice, christened 8th October, 1797 Sephton Alice, chr. 8th October, 1799 Sephton Ann, chr. 16th March, 1800, Sephton Alice, chr. 8th October, 1801, Sephton Ellen, chrs. 17th June, 1802, Sephton Henry, born 2/4/1807, chrs. 26/4/1808, Sephton William, born 22/7/1809, our relative who came to South Australia sometime after marrying Mary Ann Berry on 10th March, 1834 at St. Nicholas' Church, Liverpool ?? No details on Mary Ann. Elizabeth Harrison, b. 6/9/1811 chr. 6/10/1811 at Sephton It is possible more of the family may have come to Australia If anybody has any information on the above or are researching this family I would love to hear from you. I can fill you in on quite a bit of info on William after he came to Australia. Any help with my large query, very much appreciated. Judy & Robert jude@bigpond.net.au

Could anyone help please; I am looking for anything connected with this family from the 1881 census; If someone has access to the 1851 [or 61-71 but dolt if I will be that lucky!] for the family, and if anyone knows where I could get the PR's or MIs for both places, please reply. Dwelling: Batts Lane Census Place: Skerton, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1342019 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4263 Folio 10 Page 13 Thomas BAILLIE W 67 M Gosenar, ] Lancashire, England [born 1814] Rel: Head Occ: Gardener William BAILLIE M 24 M Skerton, Lancashire, England [born 1857] Rel: Son Occ: Cotton Cutter Isabella E. BAILLIE M 23 F Skerton, Lancashire, [born 1858] Rel: Daughter In Law Occ: Cotton Rover Mary A. BAILLIE 2 F Skerton, Lancashire, England [born 1879] Rel: Grand Dau John BAILLIE U 20 M Skerton, Lancashire, England [born 1861] Rel: Son Occ: Cotton Spinner Covkid aka John Russell Wed Site http://website.lineone.net/~covkid/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Live in Peace Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003

I am researching the following names Newchurch-in Rossendale, Lancashire - HOLLOWS, NUTTALL and STOTT Crashawbooth and Haslingden, Lancashire :- MASON Easby, Yorkshire :- MASON Regards Ken Bennett

Below, the latest update of the Yorkshire Surnames List. Hope they help lots of you! Best regards, Magdalena Magdalena Gorrell Guimaraens YKS Surnames List Administrator http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ With thanks to the other List Administrators who kindly post this. ...... ALLEN BARR, BARRETT, BARROW, BINNINGTON, BLOWER BLYTHMAN, BOND, BRAGG, BROWN CLEWES, COLLINGWOOD, CON, CONNELL, CONSTANTINE COOPER, COUSINS, CUNDILL DIDSBURY, DOYLE, DREWERY ENGLAND FIELD HARGREAVES, HARPER, HARRISON, HAVERCROFT, HAYHURST HESSEY, HILL, HOLGATE JACKLIN, JESSOP KILBURN, KINGDOM LADD, LAMBERT MACKINTOSH, MANDAM, MASON, MASSEY, MORRIS MOWFORTH, MUNDAY, MUSH NICHOLSON, NORRIS OXSPRING PEARSON, PODMORE ROGERS SEFTON, SMITH, STOKER, STOREY THACKRAY, THEAKSTON, TORSNEY WALKER, WALTON, WARD, WATSON, WHITAKER WIDDOP(2), WILKS, WORLEDGE

Collier, per OxfordDictionary, "Coal Miner/Coal Ship or sailor on this." Britannica gives these, also "A maker of charcoal". I have also seen "Collier" used (? correctly) as the owner of a coal mine. hth Cheers, Bob in Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe & Nita Bynum" <prunepicker@arn.net> To: <ENG-LANCS-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: [ENG-LANCS-YORKS] occupation > Can anyone of the list tell me what the following occupations are? > COLLIER > > Thank You, > Oneida USA > > > ==== ENG-LANCS-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To contact the ENG-LANCS-YORKS list administrator, send mail to > ENG-LANCS-YORKS-admin@rootsweb.com. >

Recently I asked about the 1881 census THANKS to everyone who so graciously answered. now I have another question. The census states the family lived at "Garsides Bldgs. Taunton Rd. Ashton under Lyne. what would the Garsides Bldgs have been. Oneida USA

Can anyone of the list tell me what the following occupations are? COLLIER Thank You, Oneida USA

On the 1881 Census of Ashton under Lyne, at Garside Bldgs, Taunton Rd., there is: Albert Knowles aged 22, born in Ashton, an Accountant Deborah Knowles, aged 29, wife, Housekeeper Annie Knowles, aged 2, daughter Do you know that you can find this, on-line, through www.familysearch.org You can find the 1881 British and Canadian Censuses and the 1880 U.S. Census. When you search for a name and find it, you can click on the name to get more details and then, if you click on "Household" (on the right side) you will get a list of everyone at that address at that time. Regards Jan Jones - Winnipeg, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe & Nita Bynum" <prunepicker@arn.net> To: <ENG-LANCS-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:52 PM Subject: [ENG-LANCS-YORKS] 1881 census lookup > Would anyone on the list check 1881 census > for > Albert Knowles > Garsides Bldgs. Taunton Rd. > Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire > folio 4059/97 > need to know who was living with him > TIA > Oneida USA >

Would anyone on the list check 1881 census for Albert Knowles Garsides Bldgs. Taunton Rd. Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire folio 4059/97 need to know who was living with him TIA Oneida USA

Found several names in: Sylvania Cemetery, Yorkville, Racine Co. Wisconsin excellent bios on most of them. Most migrated around 1842-45 names are: Buckley says Manchester Lawton " Toase Lancaster Croft " Longwell Yorkshire Drinkwater Lee Wigan, Lanc.,Pennington,Lanc., Bolton, Lanc. Haigh Kimber Birchall Lowton Common, Lanc., Pennington, Lanc. Collier Bedford Leigh, Lanc. Gilbert Cheshire Collett Gillett Dorning Green Bolton, Lanc. Yates Manchester Hamlet Lanc. Hope this helps someone. Looking for Holden, Nield in Mossley area. Michele

Interests of Bruce Leeming bruceleeming@rogers.com LEEMING Batley Carr, Dewsbury, Halifax, Waddington, Wallasey, Liverpool LEEMINGE Edwardi Leeminge b c 1615 LEEMINGE Radulphi Leeming b Nov 20 1638 to Edwardi in Waddington HAYHURST Margretta Hayhurst m Josephus Leeming (skinner) Nov 26 1691 Wadd. WRIGHT Crispin Wright m Hannah Leeming July 13 1718 Halifax HARTELY Joseph Leeming m Sarah Hartley May 30 1722 Halifax HARTLEY Mary Hartely m John Leeming July 11 1742 Halfax HARTLEY James Hartley m Sara Leeming Feb 25 1744 Halifax ECCLES Betty Eccles m Joseph (JO) Leeming June 10 1757 Halifax OGDEN Martha Ogden m Joseph Leeming June 11 1761 Halifax COOPER Sarah Cooper m Samuel Leeming Dec 26 1777 Halifax RAMSDEN Rose Ramsden m Samuel Leeming (carpet manu) Jan 11 1779 SM Hx TAYLOR Dorothy Taylor m John Leeming (cloth dresser) Oct 5 1789 Halfax HELLAWELL Hannah Hellawell m John Leeming Dec 26 1801 Elland WADE Hannah Wade m Joseph Leeming Aug 15 1802 Halifax CROWTHER Hannah Crowther m Thomas Leeming (grocer) April 23 1803 Halifax CHRISTIE Elizabeth Christie m Benjamin Leeming Feb 7 1825 Halifax WEBSTER John Webster (grocer) m Sarah Leeming Aug 19 1827 Dewsbury RILEY John Riley (stonemason) m Mary Leeming Jan 31 1830 in Dewsbury STAPLETON Mary Stapleton m Samuel Leeming March 14 1833 Dewsbury PICKLES John Pickles m Betty Leeming Dec 26 1846 Dewsbury PARKER Anna Parker m John Leeming (carpet weaver) Aug 7 1854 Batley Carr MARRIOTT John Marriott m Hannah Leeming c 1860s in Dewsbury area HORSFALL Elizabeth Horsfall m Thomas Stapleton Leeming Oct 10 1861 Dewsbury MILNES Alfred Milnes (drapery asst) m Martha Ann Leeming c 1878 Batley Carr RAMSDEN Mary Elizabeth Ramsden m Harry Horsfall Leeming Feb 10 1883 Dewsbury RENISON Hubert Robert Renison m Annie Elizabeth Leeming c 1900 Wallasey MAY Elizabeth Ann May m Thomas Stapleton Leeming ll c 1905 Wallasey area bruceleeming@rogers.com Guelph, Ontario Canada

I need someone to look for Daniel & Emma Stafford daughter Nellie Esther age 1yr. in Staleybridge,Ashton under Lyne. TIA Oneida USA

Dear submitters, With this update, I am delighted to inform you that we have passed the 19,000 mark - we now have 19,084 surnames submitted by researchers far and wide. Thank you everyone and I hope this support for the YKS list will help you bring down many brick walls and, in the spirit of Springtime, see the sprouting of lots of twigs on your trees! Below, the list of surnames researchers have submitted this past week. Regards to everybody. Magdalena Gorrell Guimaraens YKS Surnames List Administrator http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ YKSsurnames@yahoo.com With thanks to the other List Administrators who kindly post this. ....... LIST OF NEW SUBMISSIONS: ADDISON, AGAR, AKED, ALBITIS, ALLEN ALLISON, AUDAER BARRAND, BAYLES, BENTLEY, BINNERSLEY, BOAST BOOTH, BROOK(E), BROOKS, BROWNELL, BUCK CAPPS, CAPSTICK, CHARLES, CLARKE(2), COATES COCKLIN, COCKSHOTT, CODD, CROSS DOBSON, DUNN ELCOAT, EYRE FLETCHER, FREEMAN GOODALL, GREGORY, GUGAN HANSON, HARLAND, HARRISON(2), HESKETH, HICK HINCHLIFFE, HITCHEN, HOLMES, HOLROYD, HOWARD HUTTON JONES KEETON, KENYON, KNOWLES LEADBEATER, LEE, LEUTY, LOBIKIS MAPPIN, MESSENGER, MILNE, MILNER, MORPHET NOBLE ORTON PARSONS, PEACOCK, PEIRSE, PICKERING, POTTER PRESTON RAINE, RAWSON, ROBARTS, ROODHOUSE, ROYSTON SAUL, SHERWOOD, SIDDALL/SIDDLE, SIDDONS, SMITH SNOW, SPOFFORD, STUBBS THACKRAY, THOMPSON(2), TINKLER, TRIPPIT, TURPIN WASTELL, WEBSTER(2), WILDMAN, WILKINSON, WOOD

Still seeking information on my ancestor, Mary WILKINSON, and she is on the 1881 census in Cardiff as Mary Nicholson, age given as 48,, born Pendleton. She would hve been born around 1833, so is there anyone with access to the parish records for Pendleton or the 1841 census ,who could see if she is there anywhere? I have her son's birth certificate, a John Henry Brown, born in Cardiff in 1862. Mary is on his birth certificate as Mary Brown, late Tomlinson, formerly Wilkinson, so I guess she married a Tomlinson, was widowed, married a Brown, was widowed again and married a Nicholson. I have further information on John H.Brown (jnr) if anyone needs it. I would like to find out if she had other children with her first husband, ??? Tomlinson, who I am guessing she might have married in Lancashire somewhere. By the time John Brown married in 1882, his father, also John Brown was deceased. Any information you can give me on Mary WILKINSON will be much appreciated Thank you Ann (Bristol UK)

Would this list cover Waddington, Slaidburn area? bruceleeming@rogers.com Guelph, Ontario Canada

- >Hi! Listers, >Although it wasn't said, specifically, this message seemed to me to suggest >the Ampleforth College is in Lancs. WRONG! It is firmly in North Yorks, >about two miles southwest of Helmsley, which is halfway between Pickering >and Thirsk. >"Just keeping t'band in t' nick," >Gordon Moody. >>>Hi, Lynne, >>> >>>You asked about some Benedictine monks who were old boys of Ampleforth >>Abbey school. >>>I have managed to get the details (below) from "Obit Book of the English >>Benedictines >>>from 1600 to 1912" by Dom H.N. Birt, Edinburgh 1913. >>> >>>The initial date is the date of death. Ampleforth Abbey school is the >>Benedictine >>>equivalent of Stonyhurst and is only slightly younger. There were >>Lancashire missions >>>run by Benedictines and this may explain why John WORSLEY, Ralph COOPER, >>and Thomas >>>MARGISON went to school at Ampleforth. There are at least two places in >>Lancashire >>>called Claughton, one just north of Preston (Claughton on Brock) and the >>other near >>>Lancaster, in Lonsdale. Claughton on Brock is a very old Catholic mission, >>but I am >>>sure it was operated by secular clergy. >>> >>>1837. March 12. D. Robert Basil Bretherton >>> Born in Claughton, Lancashire, 1796. Educated at Ushaw. Clothed at >>Ampleforth, 22nd >>>December 1818; professed, 14th June 1820. Ordained in minor orders. 1820; >>subdeacon >>>10th June 1822; deacon, 1st August 1823; priest, 18th December 1824. At >>St >>Edmund's, >>>Douay, 1822. Sent on the Mission in South Province to Coventry, 1824-27. >>Returned to >>>St Lawrence's, 1827-28. Then in North Province at Knaresboro', 1828-30. >>Again at St >>>Lawrence's, 1830-32. In France, 1832, till death at Amiens. >>> >>>1886. May 2. D. John Clement Worsley >>>Born at Cuerdon Green, near Preston, 21st May 1812. Educated at Ampleforth. >>Clothed >>>at Ampleforth, 13th November 1831; professed, 15th October 1833. Ordained >>in minor >>>orders, 11th July 1834; subdeacon, 12th July 1834; deacon, 28th May 1836; >>priest, >>>20th May 1837. Sent on the Mission in North Province at St Peter's, >>Liverpool, >>>1839-40; Rain-hill, 1840-42. Transferred to South Province at Bath, >>1842-86, and died >>>there. Cathedral Prior of Bath, 1870-83. Built new church, school and >>priory at Bath. >>> >>>1877. Jan. 30. D. Ralph Wilfrid Cooper >>>Born at Brownedge, 15th August 1819. Educated at Ample-forth. Professed >>at >>>Ampleforth, 5th March 1836. Ordained in minor orders, 31st December 1837; >>subdeacon, >>>1st January 1838; deacon, 31st December 1839; priest, 1844. Sent on the >>Mission in >>>North Province, to St Mary's, Liver-pool, 1845-48; St Anne's, Liverpool, >>1848-50. >>>Prior of St Lawrence's, 1850-63, during which time he built and opened >the >>new >>>College. Again on the Mission in North Province, at St Peter's, Liverpool, >>1863-64; >>>St Augustine's, Liver-pool, 1864-75; Clayton Green, 1875-77, and died >>there. >>>Definitor of Province, 1870-77. Cathedral Prior of Worcester, 1870. >>> >>>1891. June 27. D. Thomas Maurus Margison >>>Born at Brownedge, 1814. Educated at Ampleforth. Clothed at Ampleforth, >>13th November >>>1831; professed, 15th October 1833.Ordained in minor orders, 11th July >>1834; >>>subdeacon, 12th July 1834; deacon, 28th May 1836; priest, 20th May 1837. >>Sent on the >>>Mission in North Province, to St Peter's, Liverpool, 1840-43; St Anne's, >>Liverpool, >>>1843-46; St Lawrence's, 1846-47; St Peter's, Liverpool, 1847-48; >>Wrightington Hall, >>>1848-91, and died there. Cathedral Prior of Peterborough, 1878. >>> >>>1869. Feb. 5. D. George Austin Lowe >>>Born at Stainton, Yorkshire, 1806. Educated at Ampleforth. Clothed at >>Ampleforth, >>>25th Sept. 1828; professed, 10th October 1831, having refused to leave >St >>Lawrence's, >>>in 1830 at Dr Baines' request, as did his fellow novices. Ordained in >minor >>orders, >>>17th September 1830; sub-deacon, 11th July 1834; deacon, 12th July 1834; >>priest, >>>December 1834. Sent on the Mission in North Province to St Mary's, >>Liverpool, >>>1835-36; Morpeth, 1836-69, and died there. >>> >>>Hope this helps >>> >>>Jim

Could anybody give me details of ?ST BOOTHAMS FRIENDS SCHOOL, Yorks for example where is it and any known history. After several google searches i have been unable to find much of interest, however from the scant information i have found i believe it could be a Quaker school. My great grandfather EDWARD MILNER and at least two of his sons where educated there during the mid1800s-early 1900s. Are there any searchable records etc for this school. TIA ROBIN MILNER

Hello out there, Could somebody look up this address in the 1891 census for me please? 6 Main St. Carlton In Skipton, Yorkshire. Looking for John SPENCER (29) and Edith A. SPENCER (31) Thanks in advance. Karl SPENCER: Skipton THISTLETHWAITE: Skipton PHILLIPSON, PHILIPSON: Dalton in Furness DARBY: Stafforshire BRATT: Stafforshire CARRICK: Stockton THOROUGHGOOD: Braintree, Notley --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10/03/2003

Madeline wrote > >> I have an ancester a Joseph Sidney Woollett who was ordained and I believe died at >Stonyhurst in 1898, I don't have any other details on him, and if you could point me >in the right direction I would be very grateful. > >The basic source for information about Catholic priests in England and Wales from the >Reformation (1558) to the First World War is a set of three lists published by >Downside Abbey. > >"English and Welsh Priests 1558 - 1800, A Working List" compiled by A. Bellenger, >Downside Abbey, 1984 >"The French Exiled Clergy in the British Isles after 1789" edited by A. Bellenger, >Downside Abbey 1986 >"English and Welsh Priests 1801 - 1914, A Working List" compiled by C. >Fitzgerald-Lombard, Downside Abbey, 1993 > >These provide a one-line entry for all the known Catholic clergy of that period. For >Joseph Sidney Woollett, the third volume has the entry - > >WOOLLETT, Joseph, SJ [Jesuit], [born] London, [educated] St. Beuno's, born 1818, >ordained 1852, died 1898. > >The other book I have quoted is "The English Jesuits 1650 - 1829" by G. Holt, SJ, >Catholic Record Society Vol. 20, 1984. 1829 was chosen as the closing date because it >was the date of the Catholic Emancipation Act 1829, and because " ... after 1829 >information is readily available in more easily consulted sources." - unspecified. >Clearly this has no reference to Joseph Sidney Woollett. It is probable that an >obituary for circulation to Jesuit houses was written when Joseph Sidney Woollett >died and a letter to The Archivist, Jesuit Provincial Offices, 114 Mount Street, >London W1Y 6AH, *MAY* result in you getting a copy. > >Sorry not to be more help > >Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs)

>Audrey writes > >> >Although Bartholomew and his brothers were no doubt brought up as Catholics, some >were married in St Nicholas Church, Liverpool. Gabrielle tells me that this is >Anglican. I suspect that some of the brothers may have married Protestants and that >is why, though you would wonder how they came to do that. > >The possibility of marriage to non-Catholics is very real, particularly as almost >everywhere there were more non-Catholics than Catholics. However, marriage in St. >Nicholas, the Anglican Parish Church of Liverpool was probably more to do with the >civil law than anything else. Before July 1837, the only legal marriages in England >and Wales were ones performed in an Anglican church before an Anglican minister and >the only exceptions were for Quakers and Jews. Some Catholics would have been married >in the Anglican church and in the Catholic chapel as well. I have some who were >married in St. John (Parish Church) in Preston on one day and then in the Catholic >chapel on the next. There were Catholic chapels in Liverpool at the time that >Bartholomew would have been of marriageable age and almost certainly the same >practices will have occurred. However, the marriage registers do not exist around >1800. The earliest is for St. Peter, Seel Street, which starts in 1812, and then for >St. Nicholas, Copperas Hill (RC Chapel), and for St. Patrick, Toxteth, in 1827. The >other chapels start with civil registration or later. There was no great pressure on >Catholic priests to keep a marriage registers at this time (the early 1800s) because >the marriages were officially registered in the Anglican church. With the coming of >civil registration the clergy seem to have been nudged into better record keeping. > >From this it would appear that you need to check in which St. Nicholas' Registers the >marriage(s) were recorded. > >This does not provide any evidence one way or the other about the religious adherence >of either party in a marriage. > >Hope this helps. If any thing is not clear, send me a note.