From: "Harold Marshall" <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: New member researching ENGLISH Date: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:22 AM Hi, My name is Pat and I am from Ontario, Canada. I am trying to obtain information on the surname ENGLISH from the Preston area. I have on the 1871 census, Charles English, age 50, born Preston, Lancs and his wife Elizah, age 41, born Liverpool, along with children Elizah, 15, born Lambeth; Chas, 13, born Southampton;Charlotte, 9, born Marylebone & Harry, 7, born Marylebone. Charles English Jr., married a Caroline Holley. If anyone knows who this Charles might be the progeny of or who his wife Elizah might be, I would dearly love to hear from them! Pat Marshall Stirling, Ontario

oldcrone@sympatico.ca wrote > I have on the 1871 census, Charles English, age 50, born Preston, Lancs Hi Welcome to the list Could this be a possible for Charles? CHARLES ENGLISH Christening: 12 AUG 1819 Saint John, Preston, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: CHARLES ENGLISH Mother: KITTY Christine 1945 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Marshall" <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:25 PM Subject: New member-English > From: "Harold Marshall" <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> > To: <ENG-LANCS-PRESTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: New member researching ENGLISH > Date: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:22 AM > > Hi, > My name is Pat and I am from Ontario, Canada. > I am trying to obtain information on the surname ENGLISH from the Preston > area. > I have on the 1871 census, Charles English, age 50, born Preston, Lancs > and > his wife Elizah, age 41, born Liverpool, along with children Elizah, 15, > born Lambeth; Chas, 13, born Southampton;Charlotte, 9, born Marylebone & > Harry, 7, born Marylebone. > Charles English Jr., married a Caroline Holley. > If anyone knows who this Charles might be the progeny of or who his wife > Elizah might be, I would dearly love to hear from them! > Pat Marshall > Stirling, Ontario > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005

Hi Christine, Many thanks for the welcome! I have also had a reply from Lynn with the same info and below is my response to her (as well as you!) Pat Hi Lynn, I don't think that this guy is mine because on the 1881 census, it says Charles was 23, born in Southampton, so I had a friend do an 1871 lookup for a Charles aged about 3, born in Southampton and she found a Charles with wife Elizah and son Charles, age 13, born Southampton. I believe it was the only Charles the right age that was born in Southampton. I have tried to find a marriage for a Charles English & Elizah to no avail! Elizah was born Liverpool, according to 1871 census and Charles Sr. was born in Preston, Lancs. As near as I can figure, by the ages of the four children on the 1871 census, they would have been married 1856 or earlier. The oldest child on the 1871 census was Elizah, aged 15, born Lambeth. Charlotte, age 9, & Harry, aged 7, were born in Marylebone, according to the 1871 census. I have the marriage certificate for Charles English & Caroline Holley and will shortly order the birth certificates for both to make sure the Preston family I am chasing is the correct one! Many thanks for the response. Pat